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#7589898 - 03/06/14 09:03 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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#7589957 - 03/06/14 09:47 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: ]
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i'm not convinced we'll see a type-R. we might get the power plant, but a stripped down type-R, i'm not sure.
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#7626788 - 03/31/14 01:00 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4Three]
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latest from best car mag JPN on new CTR...


And here the "could-be-interesting" bits I found when reading.

• Previous mules already faster than current (until Leon goes on sale) fastest FF car on the Nurburgring, that is the Megane RS at 8:07.
• Ultimate performance goal set at beating the NSX time (7:56) when it's introduced to the market.
• Engine has enough power to spin the front tires up to 4th gear (myself wonder how can that be a good thing.... But for sure some folks will like it)
• Current stated specs are more than 280PS and 40.8 mkg, but wouldn't be surprised if by the time of production it had got very close to the current world's highest specific output (Mercedes A45 AMG, 180ps/l), which means 360ps for the DOCH VTEC DI TURBO Honda engine.
• When compared with Honda's current V6, the overall aim is 10% more performance with 10% better FE.
• The mule they tested past year had an "R" button, akin to modern F1 "overtaking" button, which increased turbo pressure unleashing the full power available in the car.
• Expected realistic wheel size when it reaches the market is 19".
• Despite its high performance credentials, FE remained important, and for that reason it'll be fitted with auto-idle stop tech, and deliver above 15km/L in the JP08 cycle (for reference, previous Gen EuroCTR was rated at 10.8km/l, so they are talking about 50% improvement).
• Expected to be built in the UK, and imported to Japan starting summer 2015, with a price between 3.8M and 4.2M JPY (for ref. past EuroCTR was priced at 3M JPY.

Other than that they make a brief mention to the rest of the turbo lineup, stating that:
• 1.0L should exceed current 1.8L torque while delivering over 20% improvements in FE. Likely to be used in the Japanese Fit.
• 1.5L is mainly focused in America, not likely to be sold in JP.

And that's about it, for whatever is worth 😊


um...damn (if true )
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#7626799 - 03/31/14 01:05 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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#7626853 - 03/31/14 01:30 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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LOL @ price.
I give up, it's not coming XD
If it does, only 50 will make it hahaha!

And wtf, wheel spin up to 4th gear? HOW IS THAT GOOD? HOW IS THAT TYPE R?
DIU! Clearly it has the wrong driven wheels!
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#7626858 - 03/31/14 01:33 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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LMAO fucking Honduh fail again...why am I not surprised. I have completely given up on Honda, they make such fucking turds now.
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#7626865 - 03/31/14 01:38 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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lol yeah cause paying $75k cdn for a 1-series M makes so much sense

well should it come, you'll pay more...my guess would be mid 30's? at least you'll get a lot of car for the money performance-wise with hopefully a decent interior lulz. it better have a very good trick front diff...

the 4th gear wheel spinning seems to be a bit of hype more than anything.


Edited by Screamin DC2R (03/31/14 01:39 PM)
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#7626875 - 03/31/14 01:41 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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#7626902 - 03/31/14 01:52 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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lol yeah cause paying $75k cdn for a 1-series M makes so much sense

well should it come, you'll pay more...my guess would be mid 30's? at least you'll get a lot of car for the money performance-wise with hopefully a decent interior lulz. it better have a very good trick front diff...

the 4th gear wheel spinning seems to be a bit of hype more than anything.


The 1M was never $75k. Only idiots paid above MSRP for one. Car was listed under $55k if I remember right.

If this is seriously the best Honda can do nowadays that's really sad. They should just keep tapping into Toyota's market and keep producing the most mundane appliance cars for old folks.
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#7626939 - 03/31/14 02:04 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
lol yeah cause paying $75k cdn for a 1-series M makes so much sense

well should it come, you'll pay more...my guess would be mid 30's? at least you'll get a lot of car for the money performance-wise with hopefully a decent interior lulz. it better have a very good trick front diff...

the 4th gear wheel spinning seems to be a bit of hype more than anything.


The 1M was never $75k. Only idiots paid above MSRP for one. Car was listed under $55k if I remember right.

If this is seriously the best Honda can do nowadays that's really sad. They should just keep tapping into Toyota's market and keep producing the most mundane appliance cars for old folks.


I think you are recalling US prices.
It was 60+ here.

What's funnier is comparing a CTR to a 1M. 1M 2nd hand to this day is selling for more than it originally retailed for. We cannot say the same for any type R variant. 1M was so popular that the global demand pushed BMW's hand at producing more (iirc 2500 world wide?). 1M may be a shit track car out of the box, but for a collector/car guy/not really driving enthusiast, the 1M is in it's own league. Arguably the most collectable BMW within the past 20 years.

I love me some Hondas, but a CTR at 50k is not a very compelling arguement (though it can be argued the same way with the boss mustang being sold at that price too). But to put it differently: At the same price (50k) would one buy a boss mustang or a civic type r? It's hard to argue the sex appeal of v8 rwd + car with 50 years of "heritage" vs a boosted fwd track rat.
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#7626950 - 03/31/14 02:07 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
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lol yeah cause paying $75k cdn for a 1-series M makes so much sense

well should it come, you'll pay more...my guess would be mid 30's? at least you'll get a lot of car for the money performance-wise with hopefully a decent interior lulz. it better have a very good trick front diff...

the 4th gear wheel spinning seems to be a bit of hype more than anything.


The 1M was never $75k. Only idiots paid above MSRP for one. Car was listed under $55k if I remember right.

If this is seriously the best Honda can do nowadays that's really sad. They should just keep tapping into Toyota's market and keep producing the most mundane appliance cars for old folks.


I think you are recalling US prices.
It was 60+ here.

What's funnier is comparing a CTR to a 1M. 1M 2nd hand to this day is selling for more than it originally retailed for. We cannot say the same for any type R variant. 1M was so popular that the global demand pushed BMW's hand at producing more (iirc 2500 world wide?). 1M may be a shit track car out of the box, but for a collector/car guy/not really driving enthusiast, the 1M is in it's own league. Arguably the most collectable BMW within the past 20 years.

I love me some Hondas, but a CTR at 50k is not a very compelling arguement (though it can be argued the same way with the boss mustang being sold at that price too). But to put it differently: At the same price (50k) would one buy a boss mustang or a civic type r? It's hard to argue the sex appeal of v8 rwd + car with 50 years of "heritage" vs a boosted fwd track rat.


Nope, I distinctly recall building one on BMW.ca when it was available.
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#7626963 - 03/31/14 02:11 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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lol yeah cause paying $75k cdn for a 1-series M makes so much sense

well should it come, you'll pay more...my guess would be mid 30's? at least you'll get a lot of car for the money performance-wise with hopefully a decent interior lulz. it better have a very good trick front diff...

the 4th gear wheel spinning seems to be a bit of hype more than anything.


The 1M was never $75k. Only idiots paid above MSRP for one. Car was listed under $55k if I remember right.

If this is seriously the best Honda can do nowadays that's really sad. They should just keep tapping into Toyota's market and keep producing the most mundane appliance cars for old folks.


I think you are recalling US prices.
It was 60+ here.

What's funnier is comparing a CTR to a 1M. 1M 2nd hand to this day is selling for more than it originally retailed for. We cannot say the same for any type R variant. 1M was so popular that the global demand pushed BMW's hand at producing more (iirc 2500 world wide?). 1M may be a shit track car out of the box, but for a collector/car guy/not really driving enthusiast, the 1M is in it's own league. Arguably the most collectable BMW within the past 20 years.

I love me some Hondas, but a CTR at 50k is not a very compelling arguement (though it can be argued the same way with the boss mustang being sold at that price too). But to put it differently: At the same price (50k) would one buy a boss mustang or a civic type r? It's hard to argue the sex appeal of v8 rwd + car with 50 years of "heritage" vs a boosted fwd track rat.


Nope, I distinctly recall building one on BMW.ca when it was available.


DAFUQ. Missed out. I am disappoint. That is good diu compared to the 2nd hand prices XD
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#7626969 - 03/31/14 02:13 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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lol it won't be 50k and yes i know you can't compare CTR vs. 1M in terms of the car itself, but i bet the performance figures won't be far off even for a FF vs. FR car. /semi trolling \:D (i love the 1m lol, sucks for rear legroom doe)

it'll be a nice dd car, not just a 'track rat', since you guys are keeping it in your head it's "just a civic", but the car by 2015/2016 will be 'more' then jsut what everyone knows a civic is lol. the applicance car for old folks as hator mentioned will still be available lol.

but for the CTR it's not just a done up/hopped up civic like the Si. materials will be better/etc. and it's not cheap/shitty ricer parts like say a mugen version. it's a full ground up performance oriented car.

and i saw 1m's here at 65-75k used on trader, so it happens (happened) /not trolling \:D - i would HOPE they're mid 50's by now at least lol.
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#7626970 - 03/31/14 02:13 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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That's why this CTR pricing is going to be a complete fucking joke.
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#7626980 - 03/31/14 02:17 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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But it's 42millionjillion yen in Japan or something T_T
Isnt that like 42k (dirty math) USD?
Ouchhhhhhh son!!!!!!!!!!!

Sort of like how the Audi S1 is also 50k USD (if prices are converted). That is whack!
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#7626983 - 03/31/14 02:19 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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whack is right son XD

But fuck I'd rather have a S1 over this fucking CTR non-sense XD XD XD
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#7627000 - 03/31/14 02:28 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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#7627014 - 03/31/14 02:33 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Ur face!!! XD
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#7627105 - 03/31/14 03:26 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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Only CTR I would consider
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#7627106 - 03/31/14 03:27 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: iamfob]
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^agreed!
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#7689979 - 05/12/14 07:25 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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in other news doe.....

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/5/11/Resurrected-Honda-S2000-Returning-in-2017-with-350HP-7720231/

hope it'll be fun to drive (won't have any kinda oldskoll honda feelz...but then again no car really has since the last s2k and 06-10 Si with mods).

can't wait to see what warranty claim costs and parts cost will looks like for these next-gen cars involving hybrid tech lol - looks i'll get my raise afterall...
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#7689982 - 05/12/14 07:28 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Call me crazy, but s600 is more exciting news!
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#7689997 - 05/12/14 07:32 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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it'd be fun to bring something small/peppy over here...
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#7886946 - 09/29/14 03:08 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/honda...ampaign=ongoing

oie!
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#7887977 - 09/30/14 08:06 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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^That's pretty awesome.
So when do we get it, Screamin? XD
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#7888406 - 09/30/14 11:44 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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I do hope we get it. But I would not be surprised if we don't get it.

Turbo charged Honda VTEC motor? Fuck sign me up
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#7890158 - 10/01/14 08:19 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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^lol, see.

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1205947

well it's being built in the UK...i was hoping in Alliston but they'll prob do the regular civic's and Si. i believe the next Si will be turbo, not sure if the same 2.0L detuned (dumbed down R version, cheaper overall/etc) or maybe like 1.8 with different boost setup? not sure. but i assume it'll be the usual coupe/sedan setup we always see.

as for teh R....not all is lost still, there's hope \:D
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#7890372 - 10/01/14 09:52 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Not sure what is special about turbo vtec.
That might've been special in 1996. But pretty much everything has variable valve timing now--included boosted ones.
See Ford's ecoboost - valve timing on both cams + turbo + direct injection + high compression. That would have blown some minds in the 90s XD
VW's 2.0T is the same thing. Under rated at 210hp...and it puts out something like 210hp at the wheels when dyno'd XD
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#7939751 - 10/30/14 02:39 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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Where the fuck is screaming? Son I am disappoint.

I saw this today on reddit - you need to turn off adblock to watch the interactive video by honda.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo/



I really am liking the CTR-T. At this rate, it is becoming more unlikely that we'll get it here in N.A.
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#7939782 - 10/30/14 02:56 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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that R button for the other side is fucking marketing genius!!
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#7939802 - 10/30/14 03:02 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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And it's nice the R button actually works lol. One of the eng's I work with knows a dude from the R developers dept. overseas and shared some cool test info. I'm curious to see how they tame the understeer (seems it won't be an issue...interdasting).

K well look, the only positive for us getting it still...is i believe an older reference from the 'net stating it was planned as a "global platform"....so not all hope is lost.
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#7939807 - 10/30/14 03:04 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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Where the fuck is screaming? Son I am disappoint.

I saw this today on reddit - you need to turn off adblock to watch the interactive video by honda.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo/



I really am liking the CTR-T. At this rate, it is becoming more unlikely that we'll get it here in N.A.


You won't buy it doe so what are you yammering about?

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#7939810 - 10/30/14 03:05 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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look ma', no fire!

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/30/acura-nsx-prototype-back-on-track-spy-shots/

http://wot.motortrend.com/1410_acura_nsx_benchmarked_against_ferrari_458_911_gt3.html

they had some decent benchmark cars. they (JPN side) said the 458 is just amazingly built (aside from the stupid engine lining choice causing the fires on early VIN's lol). but i guess more reason they shifted comparisons to mcLaren units.
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#7939812 - 10/30/14 03:06 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Pretty cool how they integrate the two vids.
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: c2k
Where the fuck is screaming? Son I am disappoint.

I saw this today on reddit - you need to turn off adblock to watch the interactive video by honda.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo/



I really am liking the CTR-T. At this rate, it is becoming more unlikely that we'll get it here in N.A.


You won't buy it doe so what are you yammering about?




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