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#193257 - 03/01/06 06:52 PM 100 shot on a Si?
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I was wondering will a 100 shot wet kit be too much on a midly modded b16a2 i/h/e? if not what kit is the best for my setup? i also just installed a stage 3 clutch so that wont be a prob. Thanks
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#193258 - 03/02/06 09:50 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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I think that it will be too much unless you get and engine manegament unit. and maybe some really good piston rings. In my opinion i would spend that money on something else.
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#193259 - 03/02/06 10:25 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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dont froget the motor mounts or inserts as well
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#193260 - 03/04/06 10:51 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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i say its a bit to much. proof is the bad rings in the engine that the previous owner abused. he sprayed 100 for a while, althought that was 60k ago. 75 tops in my opinion.
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#193261 - 03/06/06 03:14 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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I say skip the wet kit get a hondata ro neptune, a dry kit and some tuning by someone that knows what they're doing. I don't think you'll have much problems if you spray it on a dual stage (50shot in 2nd gear then another 50 for 3rd & 4th). Nitrous doesn't kill motors detonation does, so tuning will be the key to making it last.
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#193262 - 03/08/06 08:54 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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I've built my engine internally like for a turbo setting but with nitrous in mind. Forged rods, wiseco pistons, block guard, quicker thermostat valve for a 100 wet shot... but I'll go safely with 75 with proper tuning and fuel distribution.
For a stock-mild engine is hard to take a 100 boost shot, my advice for you keep a low shot or go for a progressive nitrous shooter (NOS MAKES ONE AND IS REALLY EXPENSIVE) but that means you should have a top of shelf tune setup.

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#193263 - 03/09/06 11:21 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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Whats wrong with a 100 shot? if tuned correctly and not using just a single fogger you should be more then fine. Think of it like this. Im tired of this BS about how everyone is scared of nitrous but not scared of a super charger or a turbo charger all of these power adders all they do is force air into the motor, they do physically nitrous does it chemically but all in all its the same shit. As long as its tuned correctly and its introduced through multiple foggers (pro fogger/direct port) and the timing is correct and you have a proper fuel supply and tuning you should be good to go.
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#193264 - 03/10/06 12:50 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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yo 100 shots are not meant for fukin 4 cylinders. Stick with 75 tops, after that (75) nos was meant for big block chevys-done-
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#193265 - 03/10/06 09:01 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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please elaborate and tell everyone why a 100 shot (not shots) will NOT work on a 4 cyld. there is NO reason why it would not hold it. Ive seen sohc hold a 100 shot (single fogger) before. Like I said IF tuned correctly, and the timing is right and the fuel is there and it being sprayed through multiple fogger (1 per clyd) then there should be no problem because the nitrous/airfuel should equal out per cyld and should be 25hp per cyld. A stock bottom should hold this no problem. AGAIN make sure you have the proper parts before spraying, make sure its a direct port/pro fogger set up, make sure you havea fuel pump, make sure you put a bigger injector in there, and from there make sure the timing has been retarded when you do spray. There should be NO reason why your motor wont hold it. If a turbo/super charged application b16 can make 250-300whp on pump gas and run fine then there is no reason why you cant do the same with nitrous.
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#193266 - 03/13/06 01:56 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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I have a sohc d16 built to hold 100-125 nitro hp! I do not have sprayed it yet since I need parts to control the nitro boost.
It's all about the tuning and a SI can surely hold 100 Shot (or shots) of nitro. Proper fuel and progressive shot or differents shots, relayed shots up to 100 will be doable. The only thing stupid is to have a single stage shot of 100hp... You'll go everywhere but straight foward! (and surely break your engine)

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#193267 - 03/29/06 09:27 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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i used to run a 75 shot on the street and 100 shot at the track. i did this for 3 years and didn't have any problems. so, yes a civic si will hold a 100 shot of nitrous.
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#193268 - 04/12/06 02:05 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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thank you, as long as you dont use it all the time it wont blow it, especially not on the first try.
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#193269 - 04/24/06 08:12 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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Ok ill just run a 75 shot on WOT and that way i can bottle launch. I do have experience with bottle launching. What type of tires reccommened
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#193270 - 05/05/06 01:05 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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yo 100 shots are not meant for fukin 4 cylinders. Stick with 75 tops, after that (75) nos was meant for big block chevys-done-



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#193271 - 05/16/06 10:08 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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actually nitrous was not meant for a car it was for a airplane or a doctors office.

if you follow proper procedures almost any car can take a 100 shot
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#193272 - 05/22/06 10:46 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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why dont u get a progressive controller and then u dont have to worry about causing "shock" to the motor when u spray, or go direct port with a progressive controller so u wont have to worry about puddling
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#193273 - 05/23/06 09:38 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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Wet kit tuned w/Neptune.
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#193274 - 06/22/06 09:23 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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Wet kit tuned w/Neptune.




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#193275 - 06/22/06 11:04 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si?
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25hp a "hole" is the limit most manufactures use for stock engines. A progressive nitrous controller lets you do more. There are many factors though, do your homework or buy a new engine...
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#1252639 - 04/12/07 10:29 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: Scottstaypufft]
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i feel like there is a blown engine thread coming up in the rant and rave section
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#4509977 - 02/12/10 07:32 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: esisso]
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i used to use 80shot dry on my ex and no problems...and car is still running fine..
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#4510911 - 02/12/10 01:06 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: ultraplayer26]
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how do you tune for nitrous? does it know when you spray?
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#4513023 - 02/13/10 08:43 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: mhart]
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if you dont have a smart ecu like hondata, then you tune just for the spray which means your car will run like crap normally adn decent when spraying
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#4536796 - 02/22/10 08:19 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: civicsidude]
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i would dunk a 1.6l with a 100 shot no problem,
i sprayed a 1.6l mazda motor with 100rwhp shot!

88 on motor 188 on spray

it took that shit all day
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#4545953 - 02/25/10 08:29 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: denham]
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most ford/mazda 1.6 and 1.8 are iron blocks tho, no?
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#4553429 - 02/28/10 10:39 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: Y2K Si FBP]
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you can safely make 300rwhp with a turbo kit on an SI right?

what do they make 140whp?
spraying it to 240whp would be no issue at all

me and my friend sprayed his s2k with 100rwhp shot too, everyone told is it would blow up, and well, it didnt lol
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#4592803 - 03/15/10 05:03 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: denham]
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I would not run anything over a 50 unless you are using a wet kit.
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#4629672 - 03/30/10 12:37 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: TTQ]
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whats the most you can spray safely in a k20z3 without tuning before you run the risk of damaging something?
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#4631363 - 03/30/10 09:58 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: elohel]
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take the wheel hp of the car. thats about as much as you can spray in. before you run in to saturation problems, in my experience that is.
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#4718839 - 05/04/10 04:00 PM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: denham]
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I had 100-120 shot,(Dry Kit) in my 00Si and ran perfect, it was the NOS Sneaky Pete kit... I did some big time engine mods before hand though. If I remember correctly I JE pro seal piston rings, Ferra valves/dual valve springs/retainers, Skunk2 cam gears; CTR intake cam; ITR exhaust cam; cold plugs; I/H/E; cant remember what I used for fuel, walbro pump i think, not much tuning required though, I do remember that much...So remember, if you want it to last build it right before you try and spray a motor.
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#4720483 - 05/05/10 09:00 AM Re: 100 shot on a Si? [Re: SPDRSR1]
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stand alone fuel system in the engine bay built out of spare parts and pill it till you kill it.
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