#8808184 - 10/03/16 04:46 PM
What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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50km coming up in 5 months.
It seems like with the vert involved in most these events it's a trail-shuffle, with flat land runs.
If I target 7 hours, that's mid-pack for this event. I'm only ever a mid-packer in any event, so that seems feasible.
So am I going to benefit more from:
lengthening trail runs (6-7mph pace)
or just getting the distance (i.e low/slow and get the miles)
i.e should I be running further, or hiking faster
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#8808938 - 10/04/16 11:54 AM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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I've done back to back hikes(backpacking) in the 20 mile range.
Hikes were 4-5k each day of mountainous terrain (4-7k, on volcano) rated as difficult
Planned run is 6k of non-mountainous(starts nearish sea level). Terrain should be easier. Still moderate.
I definitely used vitamin I at night and in the morning along with LOTS of coffee. I was moving at ~4mph combined(faster second day), overall pace was more like 2.5 because I stopped for making said coffee and navigation.
What you're describing sounds pretty doable, presuming a 4-5mph pace on moderate terrain is "hard enough"
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#8809004 - 10/04/16 12:26 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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Yeah, his Gorge Waterfalls 50k.
http://www.rainshadowrunning.com/gorge-waterfalls-50k.html
I'm pretty comfortable with 15 minute as "all-day" pace.
Over moderate terrain (100ft/mile and roots)
6 miles @ 15min: no phasing, stroll in the park
9 miles @ 9 min(moving), 10 with nav: Decent run effort
I'd guess that a 13 minute mile would be about as hard as my century effort. Very do-able, but happy to be done by 6-7 hours.
That hardest part is finding pure time to go spend 4-6 hours without the family, especially back to back days. I have a trail half in 4 weeks, so maybe I'll just do a run the day after.
I'm a little less than worried about quads coming from backpacking and cycling
Edited by dirtyS13drifta (10/04/16 03:38 PM)
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#8809273 - 10/04/16 05:08 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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Unfortunately the long option (100k) is a week earlier, not just the day before.
It's lottery, I'm not sure how crowded though. He's got a few races a couple weeks in the season/on the dry side that aren't as likely to sell out too...
Also on my lottery calendar next year:
http://www.redmondcyclingclub.org/RAMROD/RAMROD_course_information.html
Edited by dirtyS13drifta (10/04/16 05:08 PM)
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#8817027 - 10/12/16 05:54 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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Gorge Waterfalls Lottery Update and Details
We've changed the date range for the Gorge Waterfalls 50k lottery registration to have it take place after we've announced the Gorge Waterfalls 100k lottery results. We did this so folks who are unlucky and are not picked for the 100k can still try to enter the 50k lottery.
The dates for the 100k lottery are:
Registration opens Oct 15th
Registration closes Oct 25th
The lottery itself will take place on Oct 26th or 27th and if selected your card will be charged then,
The dates for the 50k lottery are:
Registration opens Nov 1st
Registration closes Nov 10th
The lottery itself will take place on Nov 11th and if selected your card will be charged then
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#8817057 - 10/12/16 06:37 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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100k sounds super wise to sign up for :p
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#8835602 - 10/31/16 10:52 AM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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Tomorrow it happens.
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#8835772 - 10/31/16 12:41 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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Oh jeez, again
26.2 on the road with 3000 type A trying to hit a PR on the streets of man jose
vs
31 on the trails with a group of 300 dirty hippie going past 15 waterfalls in the rain forest
Yeah, ultras scary tho.
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#8835960 - 10/31/16 02:30 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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Oh jeez, again
26.2 on the road with 3000 type A trying to hit a PR on the streets of man jose
vs
31 on the trails with a group of 300 dirty hippie going past 15 waterfalls in the rain forest
Yeah, ultras scary tho.
Well at least you're living up to your user name. 
Seriously though, good luck!
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#8835984 - 10/31/16 02:47 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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Oh and since Donnie doesn't post here he says your body only knows time on yer feet or something, pace or mileage are meaningless. If you want to run for 4-5 hrs you aren't going to get there by running 1-2 (unless maybe you want to go my injured route, I guess)
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#8835995 - 10/31/16 02:52 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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So like 10 hours of power hiking means I'm good right?
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#8836017 - 10/31/16 03:00 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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I dunno, if you start busting out 9:00/miles or doing any downhill running it might be a problem unless you train that way. I was careful running downhill in SF for instance, I assumed that would bite me in the ass in the later miles
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#8836636 - 11/01/16 09:06 AM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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I'm not sure if I'm complimented or insulted..
Who am I fucking kidding.
Anyhow, that dude is a bit glam:
that's a newer truck
stove should be white gas instead of propane for less waste
yeti cooler is yuppie/bro AF
You were hinting you might sign up, still thinking about it?
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#8878329 - 12/12/16 12:39 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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SO they slid the weekend, but I ended up not getting pulled.
Looking increasingly unlikely I'll fit an ultra in with the season ramping up right as second kiddo is born.
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#8965519 - 03/06/17 06:06 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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So I lost out on the Waterfalls lottery...
But this one is still available. Could do the non ultra option (25km) as good practice
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#8965527 - 03/06/17 06:08 PM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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4,500'
15mi
Other option is die on the 50km
31 miles
9,500'
In the desert
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#9352524 - 06/29/18 11:23 AM
Re: What's a good starting point for running a "tiny" ultra
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dirtyS13drifta
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Update?
So I'm trying to talk myself into(or out of) a new race.
105k
14,000' vert
6 weeks out
I've been sort of lazily doing 30-ish miles week most weeks (once a month I seem to get busy and end up doing 20 miles). I feel strong with only a minor irritation.
This race scares me (as does any ultr) and it calls itself hard. I just don't even know how to test if I'm ready. Sign up and see if I finish? lol?
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