#9331049 - 05/29/18 12:03 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Bad@ss Chris.  You're going to kill it!
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#9337898 - 06/07/18 10:46 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Good to see this thread is still alive. Man that sucks about the injury, but good to see things seem to be improving.
I ran the Rock n Roll Half this Sunday with a few friends from Team Hoyt. They were short on runners to push the kids in chairs and asked me to help. So I ran with a friend of mine (her son is also in a chair).
Without getting too sappy, I will see these types of events are a great way to give back. Great crowd support and the kids are absolutely stoked to be out there on the course. If you ever get a chance to push, don't hesitate and go do it.
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#9338859 - 06/08/18 01:55 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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charlie_td1
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At the inlaws in Rochester ny before heading out to Alaska. Suuuuper flat, got a pretty consistent pace today:
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#9340434 - 06/11/18 12:48 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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knee feels super tight after a liesurely stroller push yesterday. Not sure what's going on with that.
Was debating on signing up for a 50miler on a whim, I think I'll bail for long-term health.
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#9345634 - 06/19/18 05:52 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Rudi
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Has anybody else ruled out buying a house because it is not runner friendly and rather dangerous to run on surounding roads (people speed and many blind curves)?
I know I can drive soewhere but it is soo nice just stepping out of the house and running.
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#9356733 - 07/08/18 12:55 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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The work your body has to do cooling you down definitely makes your pace feel faster than it is.
It depends on the individual, but there's calculators out there that give equivalent pace/temperature indexes.
Nice part is if you stick with it through the summertime, you'll get some free speed benefits come fall/winter.
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#9356784 - 07/08/18 04:41 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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charlie_td1
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Yep, I'm with you. This weekend was amazing weather, and I got a solid 16 miler in. Dead on consistent with my pacing; got 6 miles in at marathon pace as well.
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#9362466 - 07/16/18 11:29 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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dirtyS13drifta
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Using UD, I think Ak. It's a bit bulky.
I think two are key. Go small and breathable af for one.
Then if you really need to carry shit, get a large one, JUST big enough for gear.
I find my back is sweaty AF, like buckets of sweat, from my vest. I'd rather use my hand-held anywhere I can. Pre-hydrate, fill handheld with NUun, run till it's drained, refill with water. That'll get me through reasonable road run.
Off trail I'll still revert to vest (first aid, possibly PLB, bivy). I'm about to add a filter straw(i've used aquamira as it's fast acting) as even in the summer most of our streams run. If I had to the vest will carry a decent bladder(70oz?) and two 11 oz bottles with ease.
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#9363270 - 07/17/18 11:08 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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dirtyS13drifta
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12 weeks? nice
Sign up
What's your weekly mileage?
FWIW I signed up for a 50k on something like 20mi/week average(and a fair bit of cycling). I think even peak I hit like 30 mpw (+2 hr/week cycling & 1 hike every other).
I'd say a bit of hiking can and even 20% trail miles can turn a marathoner into an ultra-dork.
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#9363282 - 07/18/18 12:11 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Yeha I understand the kids and jobs angle. I'm sort of plateauing around 30-ish because of time.
I'd say you're in good shape with 12 weeks.
Don't be afraid to just hike either. I struggled to keep my weekly mileage high so I was cautious about big spikes in training due to my PF. So when I had the a small window I looked at other ways to train my legs but keep the ipact lower.. One of my most productive weeks I took a 4day weekend, ran 20+, hiked 12-15 for 3 days after. I attribute that with alot of my comfort with ultras.
I mean most these events the mid pack is 12 minutes (or more). So get comfortable slow jogging/walking hills. The climbing doesn't need to be fast but you need to get a feel for how it feels to run after a day of climbing.
Also, don't be afraid to peak early. I totally peaked 5 weeks before my race. Better than coming in fried.
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#9363322 - 07/18/18 07:37 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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FUCK. Recurring achilles issues have flared up in a BAD way. Sunday, about 8 miles into a 15 miler, my right achilles started to tighten up and hurt, and was super tight for the rest of the day. I rested on Monday, and did 8 with some strides yesterday..yeah, 4 miles into it the pain came back.
Smart thing to do is to stop for the rest of the week and just rehab it...it is frustrating to say in the least. I was really feeling strong with the volume and intensity that I've been running; I am supposed to do 62 miles this week. 
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#9363667 - 07/18/18 02:39 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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dirtyS13drifta
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My achilles started acting up when I through in altra road shoes into my rotation.
Apparently I'm fine with zero drop for off-road, but I need my drop on-road.
Finally able to actively recover it back to 90%. Now it occasionaly is sore in the morning but loosesn up. I'm working on full posterior chain tightness as part of my self-diagnosis. (I've always been tight as fuck in my hammies).
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#9366451 - 07/24/18 11:00 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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dirtyS13drifta
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Welll... this will be fun
Race all the way around Mt. St. Helens!
Volcanic 50 is a rugged, remote, and challenging 50K+ course run entirely on single-track trails, circumnavigating Mt St Helens. All but 4.5 miles are run on the Loowit Trail. Racers scramble over boulder fields, cross rivers, run through the blast zone, as well as through dense forest – all with ever-changing views of the volcano. The course is 32 miles and feels more like a 50-miler. In all, this Mt St Helens race has approximately 7400 ft of elevation gain and 7400 ft of loss. It’s tough, but so are you!
Due to the remote, mountain environment and challenging aspect of this course, it is required to have completed at least a 50K race prior to race day. You will enter a link to your previous 50K result during the registration process.
Anticipate a finish time more like a 50-miler than a 50K.
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#9366484 - 07/24/18 11:28 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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So ultrasignup hasn't calculated me a target yet.
But my "rank" in other races slots me in between an 8:13-8:14 finishing time(so in theory that's what their system will calc for me)
Given the ramp up in training I'll shoot for 8, but if the heat is bad I'll assume 9. Cut off at teh 24mile aid station is 9 hours.
Edited by dirtyS13drifta (07/24/18 11:29 AM)
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#9366924 - 07/25/18 08:42 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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9.6 miles yesterday, not a single twinge of pain. Time to ramp back up 
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#9368587 - 07/28/18 09:25 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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SJP0tato
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What headlamps are you guys using for nighttime trail runs?
A friend convinced me to join her Ragnar trail team for November, and I know it'll mean some nighttime running.
I've got a Black Diamond Spot from a couple years back (130 lumens), is that good enough, or will I appreciate the money spent on the latest & greatest?
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#9368776 - 07/29/18 09:53 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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So I am really lucky where I live. Less than an hour and I can be in Tahoe running trails.
Today I did my first ever true trail run and it was brutal towards the end. First half was ~1300ft descent and I was cruising, but coming back that same 1300' on the way up was just killer. I had to walk a few times just to catch my breath. I usually train at sea level and this was at 5000' elevation. Also the Redding fire is still pumping out a lot of smoke even this high up.
The vest worked out great. And I am glad I had it. Ended up drinking 3L of water in the whole workout and still chugged another bottle when I got back to the car. I never saw another human the whole trail, and glad I didn't see a bear. I guess they are pretty common on the pioneer trail in the afternoon.
I'm gonna stick to road miles for my next two long runs, and probably aim for a long trail run every 3 weeks.
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