Page 1 of 2 12>
Topic Options
#2088076 - 12/01/07 03:30 PM test drove 08 Civic Si
cliff st-clair Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 01/03/00
Posts: 6376
Loc: Queens Village, NY
Test drove a 4 door Si today.


Likes: Great little car, fun to drive even at moderate pace. Not a torque monster but enough torque to say, take off on second gear from a stop, drive around town etc... It makes sexy noises as you rev it up, even though you aren't really going that fast. Vtec crossover is purely aural, you cannot feel it lol. The shifter is smooth as butter, as I was expecting. No notchiness, no slack. The throws are a little long though, relative to my current car.

dislikes: interior. The whole feel of it is like a spaceship; so much glass all around you, and even though the beltline is low you sit high, so I felt weird. I don't know...I guess I could get used to it, but the feel of the cabin is downright cheap, and that I don't know if I could get used to again.
Not enough go power. OMG. this is a low 15sec car right? It just doesn't feel anything like it. I know that with Hondata and boltons this car can run low 14s or even high 13s but it just feels so much slower than my Z in stock form it's hard to believe.

The exterior styling isn't that bad from the rear, but that ultra short hood gives it that hybrid look which I just can't stand. They even had the Mugen Si there and with the body kit the overall look is vastly improved but for 29000 dollars they can suck my left nut.

The ride is definitely on the stiff side, though quite bearable, but it's stiff enough that I'd be worried of rattles developping in the future. You feel every imperfection, but the car I drove had no rattle sound or flex. Felt very solid and well put together, but most new cars do.

Overall, it's a good car, but I think Honda missed the boat on the styling inside and out, which is why I probably will not buy this as a replacement for my Z. The interior is what pisses me off the most. If they had modeled the interior styling of that car after say, the TSX interior styling, it would be a different story.
_________________________
03' 350z
04' Mazda 3 s

Top
Videos
#2088186 - 12/01/07 04:23 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Impulsive Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/28/99
Posts: 80645
Loc: Edmonton
I don't like the space ship interior either.

I can't fathom taking off from second though. No car I've driven except for a Dodge truck has been confortable with second gear starts (lots of clutch slipping and an obvious bog ensure).
_________________________
2020 Taycan Turbo


Top
#2088381 - 12/01/07 05:41 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Impulsive]
Adam G Online   nohc
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/07/00
Posts: 59275
Loc: Arrr-Kansas
I'm mulling over picking up an '08 Si as well.
Top
#2088443 - 12/01/07 05:56 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Adam G]
NOT spotch... Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/25/00
Posts: 57155
I didn't like the interior of it *at all* when I sat in my first Si. I had an LX loaner for a while and it actually grew on me quite a bit rather quickly, I actually enjoyed driving that after a day or so. Far from perfect but it definately grew on me.
_________________________
"On the street where there is no lap timer, feel is all that matters" - scootergeek
"A bunch of nerdy douchebags chasing a ghost." -Ob1 on bitcoin

Top
#2088742 - 12/01/07 08:24 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: NOT spotch...]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
You do get used to it. Though I never really paid any attention to the ten foot dash. For what the car is its great step interior wise compared to the Em1. I dont know how you can say its cheap or has a cheap feel. I disagree. its no mercedes but common its a 20k civic.Its not liek 350's are known for fit and finish ;\)
_________________________

Top
#2088799 - 12/01/07 08:58 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
cliff st-clair Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 01/03/00
Posts: 6376
Loc: Queens Village, NY
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
You do get used to it. Though I never really paid any attention to the ten foot dash. For what the car is its great step interior wise compared to the Em1. I dont know how you can say its cheap or has a cheap feel. I disagree. its no mercedes but common its a 20k civic.Its not liek 350's are known for fit and finish ;\)



I wasn't talking about fit and finish. The fit and finish are ok. I was talking about the overall feel, which is of a cheap econo car. 350zs aren't the best interior wise, but there is not mistaken the interior is that of a sports car.

But I guess when you've been driving an econocar for 80% of this decade, you wouldn't know what I'm talking about. That's ok.
_________________________
03' 350z
04' Mazda 3 s

Top
#2088805 - 12/01/07 09:00 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Z24 lol Offline
and Fuck you for the new name lol
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/08/00
Posts: 43359
Loc: Lovely CONROE, TX! YEE-HA!
Test drove an 07 ex coupe. I was waiting for the car to accelerate, but it just wasnt there. Dash is akward, but could get used to it.
Top
#2088842 - 12/01/07 09:13 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
overall feel of the interior is also way up compared to the em1 . Its a 20k civic. what did you expect, a maybach?
i know you know me and what ive driven . its ok.

_________________________

Top
#2088953 - 12/01/07 09:55 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
Impulsive Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/28/99
Posts: 80645
Loc: Edmonton
I never found it cheap and the fit/finish was nice, but it doesn't impress as much as a GTI's where the materials just seem top notch and really make up for what could be called extremely plain jane otherwise.

I think the coupe looks way better than the sedan as well.
_________________________
2020 Taycan Turbo


Top
#2090293 - 12/02/07 12:00 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Impulsive]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
I love my FA5. The interior is a huge step up from my 00 ex. the car is very well put together. A few guys on 8th gen are running 14.1's in stock form. Oh well he is a pic of my car, great daily driver in my opinion.





quick vid of a friends SI
I/H/stock exhaust
hondata
TSX cams.

Its pretty quick



Edited by xxbodkinxx (12/02/07 12:03 PM)

Top
#2090339 - 12/02/07 12:14 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
Adam G Online   nohc
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/07/00
Posts: 59275
Loc: Arrr-Kansas
 Originally Posted By: xxbodkinxx
A few guys on 8th gen are running 14.1's in stock form.

Link?

Top
#2090431 - 12/02/07 12:51 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Adam G]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67420

Few others, I will have to dig around.

Top
#2090461 - 12/02/07 01:03 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
thats retarded for bone stock... did they put in hondata's tuen into the stock computer from the factory?
_________________________

Top
#2090495 - 12/02/07 01:13 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
Chadbrochills Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/08/04
Posts: 23560
Loc: Ocala, FL
 Originally Posted By: xxbodkinxx
I love my FA5. The interior is a huge step up from my 00 ex. the car is very well put together. A few guys on 8th gen are running 14.1's in stock form. Oh well he is a pic of my car, great daily driver in my opinion.




Stock? I don't think so. I've run a few, my car is chipped running 14.5s, and they couldn't pull on me. I have a hard time believing they're low 14sec cars in stock form. Maybe with some Hondata.
_________________________
-Chad

Top
#2090557 - 12/02/07 01:31 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Chadbrochills]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
he did provide a link...although I agree it is hard to believe
_________________________

Top
#2090563 - 12/02/07 01:32 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
Z24 lol Offline
and Fuck you for the new name lol
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/08/00
Posts: 43359
Loc: Lovely CONROE, TX! YEE-HA!
You can hide a ECU reprogram super easy. I say he has a hondata. What does 3rd top out in a stock new SI? Seems like he shifted to 4th almost as he crossed the traps.
Top
#2090568 - 12/02/07 01:35 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Z24 lol]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
I was thinking he has to have hondata reflash or something.

no idea what stock 3rd tops out at. but he was well into 4th before the traps.
_________________________

Top
#2090574 - 12/02/07 01:38 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
Z24 lol Offline
and Fuck you for the new name lol
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/08/00
Posts: 43359
Loc: Lovely CONROE, TX! YEE-HA!
Either way something isnt right. If i can pull 1 car on them in my spec-v in Houston, i dont see how a stock one will run with an S2k.
Top
#2090589 - 12/02/07 01:45 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Z24 lol]
NighthawkSiSedan Offline
Major Member


Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 1454
Loc: Dhaka, Bangladesh
In mine top of 2nd is 57-59
3rd is 79-81
4th is 104 if i take it to around 8200
_________________________
07 FA5 . Nighthawk Black . Xenondepot 5000k HIDs . Sony Bt5000 . Alpine Mrp-m850 . (2) Infinity Kappa Perfect 12's . Comptech SS . Injen Cai . Ingalls ETD . Corsport Cable Bushings . Hondata Reflash . Hondata IMG . Strup RH .
[url=www.norotas.com][/url]
[url=www.norotas.com][/url]

Top
#2090591 - 12/02/07 01:45 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
I think its like 78ish in 3rd I know it 102-103 in 4th cause I love that gear \:D


Take this as it is, most si's run 14.7-15.2 stock. There are always a few out of the bunch that are factory freaks and have really good drivers behind them.

The factory freaks are putting 195ish to the wheels with just intake.



Edited by xxbodkinxx (12/02/07 01:47 PM)

Top
#2090598 - 12/02/07 01:49 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
Z24 lol Offline
and Fuck you for the new name lol
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 06/08/00
Posts: 43359
Loc: Lovely CONROE, TX! YEE-HA!
Its like the GTS Celica that ran 14.0 at 100mph with just an intake. Weather had a major part in this.
Top
#2090603 - 12/02/07 01:50 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48087

A compiles 1/4 track times. 14.1's are rare as you can see.


Edited by xxbodkinxx (12/02/07 01:51 PM)

Top
#2091056 - 12/02/07 05:04 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Z24 lol]
NOT spotch... Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/25/00
Posts: 57155
 Originally Posted By: z24
Its like the GTS Celica that ran 14.0 at 100mph with just an intake. Weather had a major part in this.




He had an intake and an unbolted muffler, I believe.

Top
#2091072 - 12/02/07 05:10 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: NOT spotch...]
cliff st-clair Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 01/03/00
Posts: 6376
Loc: Queens Village, NY
14.1 will only happen in a stock car with divine intervention coupled with a great driver and great great weather conditions.
After driving that car, trust me, it is NOT anywhere close to low 14s on an average day.
_________________________
03' 350z
04' Mazda 3 s

Top
#2091076 - 12/02/07 05:14 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Impulsive]
cliff st-clair Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 01/03/00
Posts: 6376
Loc: Queens Village, NY
 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
I never found it cheap and the fit/finish was nice, but it doesn't impress as much as a GTI's where the materials just seem top notch and really make up for what could be called extremely plain jane otherwise.

I think the coupe looks way better than the sedan as well.


See...it's not just the fit and finish, materials etc...it's the simple fact that this car feels like a Civic too much. The Golf feels like an Audi and even the MS3 feels like a more upscale car. The Si feels econo. That's what I meant. They could have made it spicier. I mean, look at the euro Civic Type R version of this car; much better.
_________________________
03' 350z
04' Mazda 3 s

Top
#2091673 - 12/02/07 08:14 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Offline
Poster


Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 340
 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
Test drove a 4 door Si today.


Likes: Great little car, fun to drive even at moderate pace. Not a torque monster but enough torque to say, take off on second gear from a stop, drive around town etc... It makes sexy noises as you rev it up, even though you aren't really going that fast. Vtec crossover is purely aural, you cannot feel it lol. The shifter is smooth as butter, as I was expecting. No notchiness, no slack. The throws are a little long though, relative to my current car.

dislikes: interior. The whole feel of it is like a spaceship; so much glass all around you, and even though the beltline is low you sit high, so I felt weird. I don't know...I guess I could get used to it, but the feel of the cabin is downright cheap, and that I don't know if I could get used to again.
Not enough go power. OMG. this is a low 15sec car right? It just doesn't feel anything like it. I know that with Hondata and boltons this car can run low 14s or even high 13s but it just feels so much slower than my Z in stock form it's hard to believe.

The exterior styling isn't that bad from the rear, but that ultra short hood gives it that hybrid look which I just can't stand. They even had the Mugen Si there and with the body kit the overall look is vastly improved but for 29000 dollars they can suck my left nut.

The ride is definitely on the stiff side, though quite bearable, but it's stiff enough that I'd be worried of rattles developping in the future. You feel every imperfection, but the car I drove had no rattle sound or flex. Felt very solid and well put together, but most new cars do.

Overall, it's a good car, but I think Honda missed the boat on the styling inside and out, which is why I probably will not buy this as a replacement for my Z. The interior is what pisses me off the most. If they had modeled the interior styling of that car after say, the TSX interior styling, it would be a different story.


Okay, I traded in a 2003 Nissan Altima SE with the 3.5 engine, a little less power than the Z but close. I had an AEM intake and AEM Performance Exhaust. The thing I miss the most about the Altima is the Torque. You punched it, it went, smoked the tires kicked you back in the seat. The Civic SI does not do it. But, when you are on the highway, downshift to third and floor it at about 50, you will feel the ivtec kick in. It is fun, and the car handles well. I plan on keeping it for a few years, then go back to something more powerful, but it is a fun car to drive.
_________________________
2006 Black Civic SI (no mods) 1998 VW GTI VR6 (Deceased)

Top
#2092190 - 12/02/07 09:52 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
the gti doesnt feel(or look) like an audi... (ive driven it a lot)
I read a few reviews which said its quality was down compared to years past?
IMO it felt no more upscale than the civic did.

now an actual audi(such as the s4 I test drove) was noticably more upscale(duh).

I still dont get the complaint though. its a 20k civic that is miles ahead of the models that came before it(in terms of fit and finish). its not a luxury car or entry level.

its competitors fit and finish is very similar imo. its a civic man. I dont get it.

_________________________

Top
#2092260 - 12/02/07 10:08 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Euphoricuck]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
When I sat in my new SI I felt like I was sitting in a lexus compared to my old 00ex. The 00 SI was only 4k less then the new si's and as far as fit and finish and the options you get it is well worth the price tag.

30 more hp
Night and Day interior upgrade
Factory 17's
VSA(traction control)
auto open and close sunroof

so on and so forth.

the only car that competes in this price range is the speed3 which is a great bargain for the price. I put alot of miles on my car though and I didn't want the headache of replacing turbos after 3 years or 100k miles.

Top
#2092993 - 12/03/07 06:12 AM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: xxbodkinxx]
cliff st-clair Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 01/03/00
Posts: 6376
Loc: Queens Village, NY
I would hope it would be better than the 00 Si, which basic interior design was from 1996. Come on people it's 2007, it could only be compared with contemporary interiors. Don't compare it to a 10 year old design. I understand it's a Civic but no, Euphoria, I wasn't expecting a Maybach type interiors But I think it could be much better when compared to the other sport compacts in that class. Again, I know how hard you swing from the nuts of the Civic so it's going to be hard for you to agree, so we'll just agree to disagree. We are entitled to our opinions, after all.

Did I mention I like everything else about that car? The only thing I have a problem with is the styling in and out.
_________________________
03' 350z
04' Mazda 3 s

Top
#2093467 - 12/03/07 11:07 AM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Destro909 Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 07/19/00
Posts: 5446
Loc: Lynn, MA
i like the front seats in the Si. i dunno about the sedan but sitting in the rear seat in the coupe my head hits the back glass and i'm only 5'9".
_________________________
05 saabaru turdbo

Top
#2093637 - 12/03/07 12:01 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
Euphoricuck Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/05/03
Posts: 92703
Loc: Canadistan
all im saying is I think you expected too much...
_________________________

Top
#2094206 - 12/03/07 02:31 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Destro909]
xxbodkinxx Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 746
Loc: Marble Falls, TX
 Originally Posted By: Destro909
i like the front seats in the Si. i dunno about the sedan but sitting in the rear seat in the coupe my head hits the back glass and i'm only 5'9".


I can sit in the back of my car no prob and I am 6 foot. Head is close to the roof but not nearly as bad as the coupe.

Top
#2094352 - 12/03/07 03:10 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
ForeheadSMASH Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 05/15/01
Posts: 6790
Loc: Denver, CO - USA
I love my Si Sedan. I have been a little dissapointed on the fuel mileage, but that is about it. Everyone who has been in the car asks if it's a V6 lol.

She's a bitch when cold due to the DBW, and 3rd is notchy when cold as well. I really like the interior, remember I came from a Camaro though... but it is comfortable. The A-Pillar is a huge bitch.

The car is definitely quick, it's no race car obviously but the roll on power is nice, and the LSD keeps the corners very crisp. I think the electric steering is perfectly weighted. The ride can be a little jarring, but never horrible. Turn in is quick, and precise. Steering wheel is perfect.

The trans is awesome besides the cold 3rd notchiness. Sound system is excellent.
_________________________
2010 Ford Taurus SHO
2010 Xterra Off-Road 6-speed

HMPH! HMPH! "You what to do to the tree" - stickaz

Top
#2094876 - 12/03/07 05:20 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: cliff st-clair]
ReplicaR Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 7097
Loc: E.E.B.
The cars aren't that bad. There were a few of them this weekend at the Streets of Willow HPDE, both in 2 door and 4 door variety, and I’ve spent one session chasing two of them. One looked factory stock, the other one looked dropped and had exhaust at the least. I was pretty impressed with their acceleration, which was just a bit slower than mine, so I was unable to overtake them on the straights. Handling was nothing special really, because my stock suspension mustang had absolutely no problem keeping up with either one of them, and once I did get the point by after 3 laps of tailing the shit out of them, half a lap later they were nowhere in sight. I suppose with a better driver, those cars could have been quicker, but not much. They just had a LOT of body roll and understeer. Maybe it’s a good new car, but there has to be something better for the money.
_________________________
'94 Mustang GT

Acceleration.... \:\( -------+-- \:\)
Handling......... \:\( -------+-- \:\)
Speed............ \:\( ------+--- \:\)

Top
#2094974 - 12/03/07 05:45 PM Re: test drove 08 Civic Si [Re: Impulsive]
jsmonet Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 11/13/99
Posts: 152107
Loc: So. Cali
 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
I don't like the space ship interior either.

I can't fathom taking off from second though. No car I've driven except for a Dodge truck has been confortable with second gear starts (lots of clutch slipping and an obvious bog ensure).


you're doing something wrong if you can't start a forester with an sti turbo/ic/tune in second. THIRD is a stretch, but i've done it on level ground--slopes don't count.

hell, i 2nd gear started my si all the time, and a friend's crx had no issue with it either. it's MUCH easier in the sti, but neither of those were all that difficult to get going.
_________________________

Top
Page 1 of 2 12>


Moderator:  auxilary, Professor Paki 
Hop to:
Shout Box

CSi Sponsors


ClubSi.com Shirts
ClubSi-Shirts
GameStop
Black-Friday Specials
Big Brake Kits
StopTech.Sale BBK Clearance
Brake Kits
Buy Brake Kits
EBC Brake Kits
EBC Brake Kits
BuyBrakes
Brake Kits-Pads & Rotors Sets
StopTech Brake Kits
StopTech
StopTech NZ
StopTech
StopTech Australia
StopTech
Hawk Brake Pads
Hawk Brake Pads
Samys Camera
GoPros, Cameras, Gear
Brake Specials Near Me
Brake Specials Near Me
Brake Pad Coupons
Coupon Code "hondafetish"
Porsche Brakes
Porsche Brake Upgrades
2-Piece Rotors-Civic Type-R
2-Piece Civic Rotors
Advertisement

| Brake Pads | | How To Change Brake Pads | | Drilled Slotted Brake Kits Cheap | EBC Brake Kits | Performance Brake Kits | Brake Specials Near Me | How To Replace Brake Pads