#10183983 - 01/03/22 12:25 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Unreal, this place is a fucking joke.
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#10184398 - 01/04/22 09:09 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Big Tasty
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Oh and:
https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/expl...on-12001862.htm
At a time when the world is gripped with the Omicron variant of COVID-19, a woman who recently gave birth in Israel has been diagnosed with flu and COVID-19 simultaneously, a condition which is being dubbed as the ‘flurona,’ media reports said.
According to experts, ‘flurona’ is not a new variant, but a case of double infection of the coronavirus and the influenza virus. The presence of both viruses could result in full range of severe symptoms including pneumonia, respiratory complications and myocarditis, which could lead to death if left untreated. Israeli health officials have warned of a “twindemic” that could lead to patients swarming the hospitals with flu and COVID-19.
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#10184600 - 01/04/22 11:02 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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When I read stuff like that, firstly, it's kinda funny (if you're not the one getting sick, because it just sounds hilarious, "flurona"), but it also makes me wonder, are humans not supposed to get sick? Yes, getting sick sucks, but isn't that just part of life? Then it made me wonder, has the world population been measurably affected by the pandemic?
I'll retract this quoted section below because I can't find data on global death rates that isn't a projection.
This site tells me no. Global death rate seems pretty consistent over the years. Wasn't COVID supposed to be decimating our population? I'm just surfing on my phone so if someone can find a better site that offers something different, please add it. Just kinda thinking out loud here. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/WLD/world/death-rateEdit: seems that previous link was a projection so that's not relevant. This one seems to be a Canadian stat for 2020, but also protection. https://www.statista.com/statistics/434353/death-rate-for-all-causes-in-canada/Best I could find was WHO estimate of excess mortality in 2020 of 3 million (actual 1.8 million reported). So we're talking about ~0.03% excess mortality.
So the next question is, how has the world been affected by the pandemic? Well socially people aren't able to gather like before. We can't travel like before. People's liberties and ability to earn has been reduced / removed. People are scared. People are angry and polarized. Hospitals do not appear overrun, we just live in fear that they may be overrun. (You can check hospital websites for their daily COVID patient numbers, and remember that the patient may not be there necessarily because of COVID).
This then begs the question, have our solutions worked? Vaccinated are still testing positive and some hospitalization (arguably reduced compared to unvaxxed). Places previously only admitting vaccine passports are now closed to them. Lockdown hasn't stopped anything, if it slowed anything at best. So all of it that we've done, what was the cost. Massive debts everywhere.
The talking heads say more boosters, higher compliance. Has it really been proven to work? I mean measurably work for society? Someone needs to change this course or we're just stuck on a hamster wheel.
Edited by 4Three (01/04/22 11:58 AM)
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#10189421 - 01/11/22 08:57 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Thankfully schools are back.
Happy we have a bunch of solid parents in our community/school, one organized an in home class for 5 of our kids, hired a student teacher and tutor and the two work with the 5 kids and rotate from house to house every day. Been a blessing.
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#10190129 - 01/12/22 08:11 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-quebec-to-impose-tax-on-unvaccinated/
Quebec will impose a tax on those who aren’t vaccinated against COVID-19 to offset their disproportionate cost to the health care system and encourage more people to get their shots.
Premier François Legault pointed to the makeup of intensive-care hospitalizations in Quebec as the driver for the levy. Unvaccinated Quebeckers make up just 10 per cent of the province’s adult population but comprise about half of those admitted to ICU with the disease, he said.
“It’s a question of equity,” he said. “Right now, these people put a very important burden on our health care network. I think it’s normal that the majority of the population are asking that there be a consequence.”
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#10190296 - 01/12/22 10:31 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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curious to see how long schools will be open before they are shut down again
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#10190471 - 01/12/22 12:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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By this logic they should probably start taxing everyone that's fat, since that's a choice as well and a burden to society at large.
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#10191799 - 01/14/22 08:45 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Big Tasty
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It's Friday!!! Puff, Puff, don't pass.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherringto...sh=2b0ae7241753
Compounds in cannabis can prevent infection from the virus that causes Covid-19 by blocking its entry into cells, according to a study published this week by researchers affiliated with Oregon State University. A report on the research, “Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants,” was published online on Monday by the Journal of Natural Products.
The researchers found that two cannabinoid acids commonly found in hemp varietals of cannabis, cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, also known as CBDA, can bind to the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. By binding to the spike protein, the compounds can prevent the virus from entering cells and causing infection, potentially offering new avenues to prevent and treat the disease.
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#10193544 - 01/17/22 09:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I ran down a few rabbit holes lately, and ... haven't found solid evidence to go one way or the other....
a) If someone was PCR = positive, how long after infection would they continue to show positive in PCR tests? I'm reading 'up to 3 mths', which confuses me since ... How would people TRAVEL? (i.e. negative covid test to fly, etc.)
b) How soon is too soon, to get a PCR test, should you come in contact with a confirmed positive case? (I'm just hearing shit like 'PCR test is very sensitive, hence a) above, etc. etc. etc.')
Meanwhile, we're pretty much getting daily updates from pre-school about confirmed positive cases, etc.. (Whether it's PCR or other, no clue.) And we're about to put the toddler back tomorrow.
Edited by furball (01/17/22 09:17 PM)
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#10194193 - 01/18/22 02:57 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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It's Friday!!! Puff, Puff, don't pass. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherringto...sh=2b0ae7241753 Compounds in cannabis can prevent infection from the virus that causes Covid-19 by blocking its entry into cells, according to a study published this week by researchers affiliated with Oregon State University. A report on the research, “Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants,” was published online on Monday by the Journal of Natural Products.
The researchers found that two cannabinoid acids commonly found in hemp varietals of cannabis, cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, also known as CBDA, can bind to the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. By binding to the spike protein, the compounds can prevent the virus from entering cells and causing infection, potentially offering new avenues to prevent and treat the disease.
no wonder i haven't caught covid yet
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#10194370 - 01/18/22 06:39 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I ran down a few rabbit holes lately, and ... haven't found solid evidence to go one way or the other.... a) If someone was PCR = positive, how long after infection would they continue to show positive in PCR tests? I'm reading 'up to 3 mths', which confuses me since ... How would people TRAVEL? (i.e. negative covid test to fly, etc.) b) How soon is too soon, to get a PCR test, should you come in contact with a confirmed positive case? (I'm just hearing shit like 'PCR test is very sensitive, hence a) above, etc. etc. etc.') Meanwhile, we're pretty much getting daily updates from pre-school about confirmed positive cases, etc.. (Whether it's PCR or other, no clue.) And we're about to put the toddler back tomorrow.
Time to step away from doing "YoUr OwN ReSeEARCH" and live life.
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#10195124 - 01/19/22 06:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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restaurants and gyms set to open soon? The lockdown is really messing with the survival of restaurants.
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#10195295 - 01/20/22 06:52 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not.
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#10195754 - 01/20/22 02:44 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not.
This is probably true to some extent. Some restaurants have been able to take advantage of the pandemic by reducing their employees, going down to a skeleton crew, and moving entirely to pick-up / delivery. Good for them, if we accept that dining out and the whole hospitality experience has marginal value. That'll depend on the type of business you're running. So yeah, there were a lot of small businesses in trouble before the pandemic, and covid put the reality check on them. Guess what else was happening before the pandemic? Hospitals being overwhelmed. LOL. Google that shit. Basically every year. Chicken little.
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#10195938 - 01/20/22 06:59 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not. This is probably true to some extent. Some restaurants have been able to take advantage of the pandemic by reducing their employees, going down to a skeleton crew, and moving entirely to pick-up / delivery. Good for them, if we accept that dining out and the whole hospitality experience has marginal value. That'll depend on the type of business you're running. So yeah, there were a lot of small businesses in trouble before the pandemic, and covid put the reality check on them. Guess what else was happening before the pandemic? Hospitals being overwhelmed. LOL. Google that shit. Basically every year. Chicken little.
that is true, and now we have covid so it makes it extra worse
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#10201424 - 01/28/22 07:09 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Probably because a it's filled with right wing nut jobs that have attached themselves to that group. Makes the whole thing look ridiculous.
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