#9950299 - 11/15/20 09:45 PM
COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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I'm seeing the alert fatigue really hit my little bubble ... - Heading into gas stations to buy lotto (so pre-COVID eh?), and fucking tards, mostly women, walk in WITHOUT masks, their kids too, and you can just see they are gonna pull the "Was gonna go in quickly, forgot the mask" type bullshit...
- Started swimming lessons with the toddler, and horry fack, we be so fucked. Pool area closed off by glass, no one wearing masks, teenaged-instructors wearing a plastic face shield (Limit 1 adult per kid throughout the area, but still.) Basically zero protection...
- At my parents condo, half the people 'forget' or just DGAF and don't wear masks on the elevator...
Everyone's stopped worrying about fomite transmission vectors (i.e. catching COVID by touching something) -- near the peak I picked up 600 pairs of latex gloves I have about 200 masks still ...
With the changing direction of 3-ply masks vs 'home-made/fabric' masks .... and the numbers surging/spiking ....
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#9950301 - 11/15/20 09:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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re: annual flu shot, that was another endeavour ... Drove out to Stoney Creek (~25km) to get a damned shot; was refreshing and hunting on the Shoppers Drug Mart website for supply...
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#9950400 - 11/16/20 08:26 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Big Tasty
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Got our flu shots at our family doc. They had a station in the parking lot and were taking walk-ins (of their patients only). Was a fairly fast process.
Our doc sold her practice almost a year ago and the flu shot was the first time I met the new doc. Young asian female, somewhat cute...prostate exam will be even more uncomfortable going forward
Mask wise, it is rare that i will see someone indoors without a mask of some sort but again, I am just in and out for getting the few things i need through the week.
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#9950407 - 11/16/20 08:34 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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went for a crappy tire run (lakeshore/leslie)
saw a family was not wearing a mask: lady + 2 kids
security guard: please wear your mask or i have to ask you to leave
TPT lady: we all have asthma, we cant wear mask *proceeds to walk in*
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#9951211 - 11/16/20 10:48 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Wife and I still work from home. Grandma moved in after the cousins went back to school. She helps with babysitting my daughter.
We go out for groceries early and late as well. In Markham, every time I am out, I'd see maybe under 5 people or so that would not have a mask on properly.
In the summer, we did some patio restaurants but now its off the table.
The winter is going to suck.
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#9951307 - 11/17/20 08:48 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Always cautious, but had my guard down a bit more over the last couple of months (always masked up, none of the nonsense, but was more open to meeting people in person). Dialing it back down again.
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#9951333 - 11/17/20 09:24 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
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Interesting that Costco is now saying mask (covering mouth AND nose), OR face shield are mandatory. Better than nothing, but I'm not a fan. Not a fan of what exactly?
Shields being allowed in lieu of masks. My concern is that a lot of people (who aren't anti-maskers) will choose the shield, even though the mask is much more effective in stopping the spread.
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#9951528 - 11/17/20 12:03 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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^ truth!!
I just walk the otherway.
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#9952329 - 11/18/20 02:45 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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i only go out for essentials maybe once a week. i go at odd times as well. usually its okay. store is usually empty. everyone is wearing masks. but i haven't been to many places. no frills, walmart basically. markham is doing alot better than most place as far as i can see. where i live its mostly older asian people who are all cautious by culture.
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#9953687 - 11/20/20 05:27 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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fuck
Send them all to foody mart.
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#9953732 - 11/20/20 07:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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lol yup. york region is gonna be done now too. lol. start hoarding
i suspect lockdown after black friday.
Edited by BroKe (11/20/20 07:48 PM)
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#9953911 - 11/21/20 12:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Went to Costco locally ... fucking line up stretched around the building at 10am in the morning ...
No mad dashes/hoarding of anything; tons of TP, Kirkland and others. Just ... the line up ... fuck.
And, it's the wkend, so here I go bringing the toddler to a fucking 'swimming lesson' with no mask and 10 other adults and kids.
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#9953915 - 11/21/20 12:22 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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We cancelled all that shit, no thanks.
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#9953941 - 11/21/20 02:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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porschetr
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Went to Costco locally ... fucking line up stretched around the building at 10am in the morning ... No mad dashes/hoarding of anything; tons of TP, Kirkland and others. Just ... the line up ... fuck. And, it's the wkend, so here I go bringing the toddler to a fucking 'swimming lesson' with no mask and 10 other adults and kids.
Who would thought there would be a long line up on a Saturday morning, just after they announced a lock down?
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#9953971 - 11/21/20 04:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Sometimes I want to move to a cabin in the woods, there is no hope for some of these people.
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#9954018 - 11/21/20 06:42 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Sometimes I want to move to a cabin in the woods, there is no hope for some of these people.
My dream. I can't take the city/suburban life anymore
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#9954039 - 11/21/20 08:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The Postman
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Got tested today lol. Had a mild cough at work, no other symptoms and got sent home and told to get tested.
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#9961042 - 12/04/20 07:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Not sure if it was an Adamson BBQ supporter-type idiot, but ...
Wife tells me a patient came into her section tested positive Her section has higher-scrutiny re: Covid - all patients undergo Covid testing (at the hospital) 2-3 days prior to their procedures. Apparently said idiot tested positive before the test they had at the hospital (so I'm guessing lied on the intake forms.)
Wife is already in full-blown gear daily (though I think they're still rationing N95s to 1/pp/daily) ....
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#9964450 - 12/09/20 11:11 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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For some reason, this made me stop and think
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#9965069 - 12/10/20 04:50 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#9965691 - 12/11/20 09:12 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#9965981 - 12/11/20 03:52 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Screamin Type ARGH!
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fucking stupid, totally useless at this point in time. York region has always been useless
no argument here. shit closes to early it's sad lmao.
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#9966111 - 12/11/20 07:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Was inevitable lol surprised they were still open last couple of weeks. Sounds like they just wait until hospital gets to capacity. Lockdown. Open back up premature. Rince and repeat
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#9969869 - 12/17/20 09:06 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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The cases keep going up. We will be full locked down before Xmas.
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#9969959 - 12/18/20 07:36 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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seriously
Whatever a "full lockdown" is, everything is back to normal and we are in lockdown now lol. No one gives a fuck, I wish we would stop pretending and just accept that everyone is for themselves and we take on the risk of our actions.
Some of my buddies still go to a gym that's in "lockdown" they have to park out back (it's pretty bait with a line up of range rovers, but that's another story) and have a deal with the owner to workout as long as they wear hardhats and LED flashlights on their heads + vests. If by law/police come, they are "maintenance" workers.
This whole thing is a joke.
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#9970403 - 12/18/20 02:35 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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titty sprinkles
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seriously Whatever a "full lockdown" is, everything is back to normal and we are in lockdown now lol. No one gives a fuck, I wish we would stop pretending and just accept that everyone is for themselves and we take on the risk of our actions. Some of my buddies still go to a gym that's in "lockdown" they have to park out back (it's pretty bait with a line up of range rovers, but that's another story) and have a deal with the owner to workout as long as they wear hardhats and LED flashlights on their heads + vests. If by law/police come, they are "maintenance" workers. This whole thing is a joke.
that's funny and smart lol
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#9970491 - 12/18/20 04:39 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Hamilton getting locked down on Monday. Still open for business here in Niagara. Wife's hospital has 22 COVID patients and thats only because the other 3 hospitals send them all to the big one lol.
She gets a laugh when she sees the headlines about the ICUs being full. Yup they are full all the time regardless of COVID. There's lots of other sick, injured, old and dying people out there.
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#9971168 - 12/20/20 07:42 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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What does that even mean, lockdown means nothing...or I did not get the memo?
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#9971246 - 12/21/20 06:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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c2k
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how can you lock down northern ontario. that's ridiculous.
snipped from reddit
Thunder Bay reported 18 new cases yesterday. That's the same per capita as 474 new cases in a day in Toronto. Timiskaming reported 7 cases today, which would be like 615 in Toronto.
There is no region of Ontario that's in good enough shape to get through the expected Christmas and New Year's surge safely with only light restrictions.
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#9971249 - 12/21/20 07:16 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Thunder Bay ... that's fucked re: COVID in the middle of fucking nowhere. I suppose when you're out there, you DGAF with COVID thinking 'Nothing up here but polar bears and Persians."
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#9971401 - 12/21/20 11:25 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Didn't expect them to be full, relying on titty report from NYGH which doesn't seem to be full.
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#9971441 - 12/21/20 12:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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I'm starting to scale back on 'heading to the park' with the toddler ... All the white folk stand around without masks thinking "We are 6-ft apart", and the handful of indians walk around you like you're invisible...
Plus the toddler goes on tantrum when we leave
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#9971465 - 12/21/20 12:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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how can you lock down northern ontario. that's ridiculous. snipped from reddit Thunder Bay reported 18 new cases yesterday. That's the same per capita as 474 new cases in a day in Toronto. Timiskaming reported 7 cases today, which would be like 615 in Toronto. There is no region of Ontario that's in good enough shape to get through the expected Christmas and New Year's surge safely with only light restrictions.
I know a group of people who went to Thunder Bay area for hunting. Think they rented a cottage.
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#9971670 - 12/21/20 05:09 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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that's the problem. selfish people still going out. anywhere that you are indoors with other people is a risk. period. i know people that are finding any excuse to go out. friend came from downtown to go to princess auto uptown. for what? stay the fuck home and stop dragging this shit on. so tired of these people for real.
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#9971671 - 12/21/20 05:14 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I just read the new lockdown rules, this is going to suck. Guess we have to stand in line to buy groceries over the winter, capacity allowed dropped from 50% to 25%. Was that REALLY the fucking problem? God damn imbeciles. Grocery shopping was a cluster fuck when this started, let's make it worse.
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#9971684 - 12/21/20 05:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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They should make it 1 person at a time, that will show the virus.
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#9971714 - 12/21/20 06:47 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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You are all about to get a taste of USSR line ups from the 90's.
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#9971924 - 12/22/20 10:30 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Hoarding level Asian, here we come ...
I've been telling the wife we need to begin 'hoarding' bulky items like TP/paper towels since you can only buy 1 big one per trip at Costco ... (by 'hoarding, I mean pick them up every other trip, so you have ~6 mth supply, not 30 years.)
My parents hoarded so much that when I moved out, and grabbed a good portion of their stash, I was able to survive ~5 yrs without EVER purchasing: toilet paper, paper towels, or facial tissue The gf at the time was using the TP and was like wtf, this shit just disintegrates in my hands, look at all this fuzz .... I didn't even pull out the pastel-coloured TP
You are all about to get a taste of USSR line ups from the 90's.
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#9972061 - 12/22/20 01:35 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Super confusing ... But RMTs are allowed to be open during lockdown?!
Got an email from Massage Addict (RMT chain. I prefer Sutherland Chan over MA.)
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#9972341 - 12/22/20 10:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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The school kids is the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.
I've heard of a 3 of my friends whos kid's school had covid+ but it doesn't make the news. All the kids stay home, get tested and they go from there....
The lack of a real plan for the kids biting Ford in the ass and he won't talk about it.
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#9972540 - 12/23/20 03:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Screamin Type ARGH!
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I just read the new lockdown rules, this is going to suck. Guess we have to stand in line to buy groceries over the winter, capacity allowed dropped from 50% to 25%. Was that REALLY the fucking problem? God damn imbeciles. Grocery shopping was a cluster fuck when this started, let's make it worse.
lol this yes.
this handling of the pandemic at this point is a fucking joke. lockdown won't do shit. sorry but if you're catching this shit now at this point you really aren't paying attention and are pulling some stupid shit. (aside from obviously say an elderly person just hanging in an old folks home and idiot relatives or worker makes them sick. or of course a frontliner who has no choice by to to their best to avoid it but is face to face with it daily).
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#9973188 - 12/25/20 05:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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My wife bought 2 tickets for the light show at Angus Glen Golf Course. Because of covid they have to close despite there being zero human interaction, you sit in your car and drive through the light show.
We went right now and the line to get in was just over 2km, hundreds and hundreds of cars just sitting waiting. wtf
Had to break the news to the kids, so drove around random neighborhoods looking at their decorations. Defaulting to a peasant always saves the day.
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#9973217 - 12/25/20 07:42 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wife is finally freaking out a bit. Sister hospital is on outbreak #4 so they are getting all the covid positive or potentials. One of her co-workers tested positive recently too.
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#9973248 - 12/25/20 10:02 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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My wife bought 2 tickets for the light show at Angus Glen Golf Course. Because of covid they have to close despite there being zero human interaction, you sit in your car and drive through the light show.
We went right now and the line to get in was just over 2km, hundreds and hundreds of cars just sitting waiting. wtf
Had to break the news to the kids, so drove around random neighborhoods looking at their decorations. Defaulting to a peasant always saves the day.
Went on Monday. It was a 45 minute wait and it took us about 20 minutes to go through. The line started at Elgin Mills when we got there at 6pm. My 2.5 year old was a little impressed but you could prob see the same stuff around the area.
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#9973438 - 12/26/20 06:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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There is also a house on Markham South of hwy 7 on the West side that has a lot of lights. They take monetary donations for toy mountain.
I went just now (8:30 PM, Boxing day), they had lights in the front and back of their yard. Better than being in the car at Angus imho. It feels more Xmas when you are breathing in fresh air and not stuck in a car.
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#9973440 - 12/26/20 06:47 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Sweet, which railing do I lick?
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#9973476 - 12/26/20 08:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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There is also a house on Markham South of hwy 7 on the West side that has a lot of lights. They take monetary donations for toy mountain.
I went just now (8:30 PM, Boxing day), they had lights in the front and back of their yard. Better than being in the car at Angus imho. It feels more Xmas when you are breathing in fresh air and not stuck in a car.
Cool, will need to check this out.
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#9977650 - 01/02/21 09:13 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#9977931 - 01/03/21 01:38 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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COVID's gonna COVID, but where are we at with all the politicians going on beach vacations when everyone else is being told to lock-down/stay home?
I think the fatigue is most definitely setting in after almost a year and the lock-down rules just aren't resonating. If you were careful at the onset, you probably maintained your diligence regardless of how the rules were relaxed and tightened. The ones that like the daily guidance on how to live their life safely have probably tuned out all the suggestions/rules.
In the beginning, I would listen to the daily updates from local, provincial, and federal politicians. Now its all white-noise. I still wear my mask like I did from the start. Kids are not going back to school, probably for years. I've accepted that because I'm still out and about for work, that I'll be the sole grocery shopper and that the line-ups, higher prices, and wiping down groceries are just part of life.
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#9978059 - 01/03/21 05:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wife getting vaccinated tomorrow lol.
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#9978086 - 01/03/21 06:54 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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So far, I've been too chicken shit to say much to anyone that's walking around WITHOUT a mask ...
I've given them the frozen stare or not moved at all, indicating something's up, etc... I've seen it most often between the parking levels to/in the elevators at my parents' condo in Markham ... But also have seen it at restaurant pick-ups.
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#9978146 - 01/03/21 08:40 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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I've seen a few people not properly wearing or not wearing at all. I just stay the fxxk away.
I am not going to get my teeth punched in. Everyone knows what the drill is, if they choose not to follow, it isn't like me making a comment will make them change their minds.
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#9978256 - 01/04/21 07:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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In Markham everyone seems to be abiding, at least the places I frequent. Or are we talking about walking without a mask outside? I don't wear one walking around the neighbourhood pushing my kid in a stroller. GTFO
When I am downtown I will wear one even walking outside out of courtesy since almost everyone else is also, but that's the only exception.
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#9978981 - 01/04/21 08:22 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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outside around my house I don't. People just know to walk on the street to be distanced if there is someone walking from the opposite direction.
I was at Main St Unionville and people weren't outdoors. I had it on because there was a lot of people around.
Indoors like you, most cases, people are doing it properly.
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#9979042 - 01/04/21 09:49 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Any measurements they implement should have been done months ago.pretty ridiculous. Haven't really run into anyone without a mask on in Markham but I hardly go anywhere
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#9979720 - 01/05/21 02:07 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#9983053 - 01/08/21 11:17 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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too much covid denile still. needs to be addressed daily. had a friend come uptown yesterday to go chair shopping. I cant even bother at this point anymore. anytime covid comes up he says "its like the flu". okay then. lots of selfishness as usual. i'll just keep doing me. staying home and keeping mine safe. if everyone wants to keep going out and dragging out the lockdown meanwhile crying that they can't go out or still keep going out anyways then be my guest. i'll be at home working out. they better pray they don't need to go to the hospital.
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#9983540 - 01/08/21 09:02 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Think about regular flu vacinnes, and how we keep getting different strains every year and how they have to adapt the shot to make it more effective.
We haven't gotten rid of the flu but managed to live with it.
Thats my realization with Covid, it may be here to stay and we just have to keep it at bay.
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#9983577 - 01/08/21 09:49 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The curfew will suck as for me as I go to do my grocery shop at night before close to avoid the crowd. It is what it is. Will probably just go during early morning when people are working.
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#9984044 - 01/09/21 07:24 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Just saw a line up outside the local pool hall so that's nice. Lol
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#9984212 - 01/10/21 05:14 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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wat?
pool halls exist?
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#9984214 - 01/10/21 06:29 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Great news. I hope our resident CSi HCPs all get their shots ... 355, the handful that's working in the hospitals, etc. Wife getting vaccinated tomorrow lol.
Vaccine for me on Wednesday.
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#9984489 - 01/10/21 04:03 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Wife got dose 1 today ... Not sure which one, but ... guessing the Pfizer one?
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#9984791 - 01/11/21 05:28 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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c2k
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Wife got dose 1 today ... Not sure which one, but ... guessing the Pfizer one? I don't know anywhere that is running Moderna yet... so yeah, probably Pfizer. I'll be getting the Pfizer dose at Sunnybrook.
has any of your co-workers refused to get vaccinated?
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#9984848 - 01/11/21 08:47 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#9985054 - 01/11/21 12:20 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Lol so obvious. Pretty discusting the way this has been handled. Catering to people who don't believe in covid. They'll decide to take real measures when it's too late. Enjoy this for the next 2 years
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#9985155 - 01/11/21 01:58 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wife gets her second vac next week and is now doing covid tests weekly.
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#9985688 - 01/12/21 07:50 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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So what's the bet at Ford's 1pm announcement? Curfew's off the table.
In local Markham news, 2 T&T employees got covid at 2 locations. I think it was a very well worded response from the CEO ... https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/10...-19-in-markham/
All close contacts of positive cases are thoroughly identified by CCTV review and overnight deep cleaning was arranged immediately following the positive cases, the company’s COVID-19 update said.
"What is unique about the two new cases, is not that we have a positive case, it is that these specific stores have not had a single positive COVID-19 case since the start of the pandemic until Jan. 10," Tina Lee, CEO of T&T Supermarket, said.
Thought outline was killed by TheStar, plus it's summarized in that Twitter thread?
One point that came out of that article: "What type of numbnut would ANNOUNCE an imminent lockdown, and ask people NOT to go out/shop JUST before Xmas?"
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#9986171 - 01/12/21 03:16 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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'enhanced enforcement'
GTFO
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#9986187 - 01/12/21 03:48 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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f22b-dohc
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just signed up for my vaccination. gnsp
report back if 3rd eye becomes visible
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#9986249 - 01/12/21 05:20 PM
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soooo can we talk about our kids situation, what's everyone doing to keep kids occupied?
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#9986377 - 01/12/21 08:29 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The Postman
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Got tested today for the second time. Its got to be the most uncomfortable feeling lol.
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#9986465 - 01/13/21 05:51 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The blessing here is for those kids with siblings, I think they are managing ok based on myself and my peer group. The ones with only 1 kid, this is probably a little more difficult
But yes, shit show either way.
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#9986498 - 01/13/21 08:14 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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That is an entirely different level of hurt.
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#9987328 - 01/13/21 10:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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We so f'ing lucked out with my MIL able to help us with my ~2 yr old daughter ... I'm WFH, wife is at the 'office' ...
Daughter will sometimes bust open the office door and fuck up a Zoom meeting ... I'm prob one of the only people I know at my work that has my daughter on my lap for a few moments at a time ... (I'll be on mute but video on.)
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#9987446 - 01/14/21 09:13 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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In the event you didn't get the memo...
Edited by furball (01/14/21 09:13 AM)
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#9987522 - 01/14/21 10:51 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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lol was watching the news this morning and Cam Wooley or whatever his name iswas basically defending the police saying they won't be enforcing shit. so dunno what the whole point of announcing a stay at home order is when you have a city full of people who think covid is the flu still and won't get charged or checked. they need to go after all the businesses with heavy fines for making people come into the office. still waiting for real lock down. you know. where shit is actually closed. also seeing people with dogs use that as an excuse to meet up with people at the park with their dogs. some people really just need a swift kick to the back of the head.
also, could be wrong about this but i feel like with everything going on there is a slight correlation between white privilege and covid drag out. but maybe i'm just watching too many news protests about their "rights and freedoms"
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#9987532 - 01/14/21 11:08 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Traffic a little lighter today.
Still don't think anything changed.
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#9987534 - 01/14/21 11:15 AM
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i thought this shit was funny:
Husband on leash breached Quebec's Covid curfew
A couple in Canada have been fined for breaking Covid curfew rules after the woman was caught "walking" her husband on a leash, according to local media.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55631198
Edited by f22b-dohc (01/14/21 11:16 AM)
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#9987562 - 01/14/21 11:54 AM
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So we have a stay at home ordinance with no big change to the norm. Quebec has a curfew but kids are back in schools as of Jan 11th. This will drag on until the summer when everyone will just say fuck it and be out all over again.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/opinion-queb...grade-1.5262284
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#9987579 - 01/14/21 12:13 PM
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soooo can we talk about our kids situation, what's everyone doing to keep kids occupied?
Big one is in Gr. 9 - she's been 1/2 virtual since Sept. (only goes to school for 2.5 hr. every other day) - so taking those 2.5 hr. at home doesn't make much of a difference.
Little guy is in Gr. 1 - he requires monitoring; before when he was in school; teacher says he has problems keeping up and not finishing assignments (these days they have this no homework concept -- go figured) - so our agreement is to send anything not finished home and we will help him catch up.
Online learning has been tough - teacher doesn't force mute all (only does it occasionally) so when she gives verbal instructions, other kids interrupt; my kid lose interest and space out. He'd miss key verbal instructions so either of us (mostly me) would have to walk him through the worksheets (in parallel to doing my own shit). On days we're both in meetings all day he's fucked.
He's the type that will just shut down if he's stuck on a word that he can't spell (even though we said to try to sound it out and we don't care for spelling mistakes) - he doesn't have the trial and error mindset.
The only upside to virtual learning is that we can see when he falters and make him catch up on the spot (I will make him cut into his lunch hr. to get caught up) -- rather than having to plow through a whole day's work at night.
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#9987911 - 01/14/21 05:53 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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loudsubz
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My mother in-law's conversation with her daughter who has been in the covid clinic since March: MIL: "I'll try and catch the (Leafs) game over at a friend's house. It's only 10 minutes away and I have a letter from the company stating that I am an essential service." Wife: "You're not an essential service to go to someone's house!!!" footnote: She is not essential. She is a fucking front-of-house secretary at an industrial company. A one-armed monkey with end-stage AIDS and Polio could do her job.
ohhhh those ones...lol nope sorry you are NOT essential
The guys going out int he trucks, into peoples homes risking their health everyday ARE the ones, not some lady behind plexi glass taking orders hahah
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#9987946 - 01/14/21 07:01 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wifes ER is getting swamped by people wanting to get tested who dont want to wait for an appointment to get tested. They have 5 Nurses now off with it. And unlike most emergency services, they dont get paid if they are off due to the vid.
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#9988007 - 01/14/21 10:04 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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grandma still looks after my almost 3 year old 5 days a week. We send her back to her home on the weekend. Old school care giver styles but free is free.
My daughter knows to come into the office for stuff while we are on calls. Smart little buggers.
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#9988041 - 01/15/21 05:57 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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My mother in-law's conversation with her daughter who has been in the covid clinic since March: MIL: "I'll try and catch the (Leafs) game over at a friend's house. It's only 10 minutes away and I have a letter from the company stating that I am an essential service." Wife: "You're not an essential service to go to someone's house!!!" footnote: She is not essential. She is a fucking front-of-house secretary at an industrial company. A one-armed monkey with end-stage AIDS and Polio could do her job.
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#9988080 - 01/15/21 08:15 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upi0bEy35v4
CBC: Ontario authorities unsure how to enforce stay-at-home order
According to this: "..police have limited powers to enforce the order, unable to stop cars just to check if someone is complying. If someone is stopped, they are not required to explain why they're not home."
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#9988210 - 01/15/21 10:17 AM
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furball
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According to this ... even an 'IT Manager' could be considered "essential" ...
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/crtcl-nfrstrctr/esf-sfe-en.aspx
Information Technology - Workers who support command centres, including, but not limited to network operations command centres, broadcast operations control centres and security operations command centres - Data centre operators, including system administrators, HVAC and electrical engineers, security personnel, IT managers, data transfer solutions engineers, software and hardware engineers, and database administrators - Client service centres, field engineers, and other technicians supporting critical infrastructure, as well as manufacturers and supply chain vendors that provide hardware and software, and information technology equipment and services (to include microelectronics and semiconductors) for critical infrastructure - Workers responding to cyber incidents involving critical infrastructure, including medical facilities, governments and federal facilities, energy and utilities, and banks and financial institutions, and other critical infrastructure assets and personnel - Workers supporting the provision of essential global, national and local infrastructure for computing services (incl. cloud computing services), business infrastructure, web-based services, and critical manufacturing - Workers supporting communications systems and information technology used by critical infrastructure stakeholders - Critical corporate support functions such as human resources, payroll, communications, security, finance, procurement, and real estate operations that support the customer and internal company networks
footnote: She is not essential.
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#9988273 - 01/15/21 11:03 AM
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this whole thing is crazy. I don't have kids so obviously I don't have to keep kids busy. But gov says to say home so thats what i've been doing. I can't believe people are this dumb. I go nowhere other than grocery store or costco, and interact with only those in my home. I always wear a mask and stay away from people when I am in the grocery store. I clean everything that comes through my home and wash my hand immediately after receiving a package or the mail. Parcels I bring into the laundry room and place them in the sink for a day or so and then I open them up. Groceries go in there and are washed in there as well then put away. I don't want any risk of getting this shit whatsoever.
Costco is the biggest joke though....people swarm in there. I go near closing time, get my shit and GTFO. It's pretty simple. Sure I miss interacting with other human beings but at the same time I am happy to be not sick, safe, and working from home. I'm one of the lucky ones to have been working from home since March of last year. The last thing I want to be is an unnecessary burden to a healthcare worker who's already looking after way too many other people. I just hope that if I have say a medical emergency unrelated to covid there will be a place for me in a hospital or treatment available to me. But seemingly not if things keep going.
Places like No Frills and Walmart are a no go for me. I went to "food basics" way back in like july when the scare was far less than it is now and I didn't feel safe in there at all. absolutely zero precaution was taking place. I went in to get steak and just quickly got what I needed and boogied out as fast as I could. have not returned since.
Me, my new TV, and the Motortrend streaming service will be good buddies from now till April.
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#9998316 - 01/30/21 03:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Better than the US. If we did it like China, we'd all be in much better shape.
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#9999169 - 02/01/21 04:57 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I had about 5 or 6 N95 masks for work when we started last year. I still have them to this day. Probably not advisable to be wearing them this long but for work and the crappy places I sometimes go with people NOT following the mask order, I feel a little better wearing these.
I just bought some KN95 to replace as these are finally wearing out
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#9999382 - 02/02/21 07:34 AM
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Kids are going nuts at home, starting to entertain the idea if putting the older kid in daycare in a month.
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#10005439 - 02/11/21 05:24 PM
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#10007343 - 02/15/21 06:21 PM
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March Break postponed till April 12th.
those w/ kids, how do you feel about the announcement? I have no kids so my opinion means fuck all. But haven't kids been on march break since last March? Just cancel it all together in my opinion.
no kids for me either and I agree with what you said.
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#10010969 - 02/21/21 08:51 PM
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Back to red zone for Markham. Wife is off on 2nd mat leave with end of Feb due date. Eitherway, won't be going out much for the next month or so.
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#10011091 - 02/22/21 09:25 AM
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Got my second covid shot on Saturday, no side effects... just a sore shoulder. I actually had more side effects from the first one (woke up really groggy the next day.)
What did you get? Pfizer or Moderna?
Do you have to carry the vaccination card with you to state that you are vaccinated for covid?
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#10011940 - 02/23/21 03:08 PM
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#10012308 - 02/24/21 06:01 AM
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#10013039 - 02/25/21 07:03 AM
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#10013064 - 02/25/21 08:02 AM
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Third wave, new varient. Calling it now. Shouldn't even be talking about opening up until they vaccinate way more people. Opening up before will only be counter effective.
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#10013412 - 02/25/21 02:45 PM
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because i live in vaughan/maple, i ain't going nowhere for a while. since we went to the red zone there's been so many ppl from toronto and surrounding areas coming to go to vaughan mills etc, those people need to eat so they go to local restaurants and then bam! you catch the vid.
getting my vaccine tomorrow. w/ that racing sim of yours, I wouldn't want to go anywhere to deal w/ retards.
seriously, I don't even want to go out on a regular day lol.
just got my shot, a regular flu shot hurts 5x more.
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#10013485 - 02/25/21 04:18 PM
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because i live in vaughan/maple, i ain't going nowhere for a while. since we went to the red zone there's been so many ppl from toronto and surrounding areas coming to go to vaughan mills etc, those people need to eat so they go to local restaurants and then bam! you catch the vid.
getting my vaccine tomorrow. w/ that racing sim of yours, I wouldn't want to go anywhere to deal w/ retards. seriously, I don't even want to go out on a regular day lol. just got my shot, a regular flu shot hurts 5x more.
Update us before you turn into a Zombie. kthxbbq111!!!!
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#10013487 - 02/25/21 04:19 PM
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#10013535 - 02/25/21 05:55 PM
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16th was moving, mccowan fuuuuuucked like the good old days.
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#10014731 - 02/28/21 12:28 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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So ... What's exactly the dress-code for front-line like you? Still N95 + gloves + a prayer? That's it? Or N95 + face shield + gloves?
The rollout plans are so f'ing confusing ... I'm watching for details of York Region for 80+ yr olds (i.e. my parents) ... ...
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#10014847 - 02/28/21 04:20 PM
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So ... What's exactly the dress-code for front-line like you? Still N95 + gloves + a prayer? That's it? Or N95 + face shield + gloves? The rollout plans are so f'ing confusing ... I'm watching for details of York Region for 80+ yr olds (i.e. my parents) ... ...
For all calls that may/will require Aerosol Generating Medical Procedures to be performed... along with a Level 1 gown and high-cuff gloves (not pictured.) Faceshield over all this only when intubating.
Substitute mask with standard surgical mask and obviously delete face shield for all other calls, irrespective of covid positivity.
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#10014854 - 02/28/21 04:39 PM
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jfc
At this level wouldn't it be easier to wear a helmet? Can also double up as a weapon to headbutt all the dipshits that call for no good reason.
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#10015009 - 03/01/21 06:40 AM
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c2k
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So ... What's exactly the dress-code for front-line like you? Still N95 + gloves + a prayer? That's it? Or N95 + face shield + gloves? The rollout plans are so f'ing confusing ... I'm watching for details of York Region for 80+ yr olds (i.e. my parents) ... ... For all calls that may/will require Aerosol Generating Medical Procedures to be performed... along with a Level 1 gown and high-cuff gloves (not pictured.) Faceshield over all this only when intubating. Substitute mask with standard surgical mask and obviously delete face shield for all other calls, irrespective of covid positivity.
Any chance for you to score a Darth Vader helmet?
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#10015019 - 03/01/21 07:44 AM
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furball
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Holy fuck.
My next question would be how much of that equipment is out of pocket...
(Wife got a free odd-ball looking mask ... it looks weird cuz it doesn't cover the chin .. https://o2canada.com/products/o2-curve-1-2 )
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#10015030 - 03/01/21 08:21 AM
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355-Si
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Are you sure they didn't give her a jock strap and told her "this is your new mask"? lol
We have no more 3M N95 respirators... and we're using old stock SARS N95s, they're called Pleats Plus. Personally the Pleats pinch my cheeks and it's irritating... especially over the course of a longer call (like a cardiac arrest.) I much prefer the 3M respirators from the comfort standpoint.
We still have a large stockpile of Pleats but lately when we go to a call where we think we should wear respirators, we usually confirm "we gonna Vader up?" and then put the new mask on. It's not optimal for communication because it muffles and resonates your voice, so you really have to speak up and enunciate. Not good for the ESL medics out there.
Oh and the Vader mask is N100, so it has better filtration for the smaller particulate matter.
All the equipment you see in the pic (excluding the scrub cap) is issued by the service. Gowns included. We're given shower caps (shitty ones with holes) to wear on our heads... so most of us bought our own. I have my sushi one, another with coffee beans, wine corks, BBQ meat, and one from a company called #ivegotyourback911, which supports mental health in first responders.
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#10015536 - 03/01/21 05:24 PM
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loudsubz
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I have that dual N100 mask. You don’t smell a thing even in a small spray booth. No I don’t use it for COVID. The filters are 10 years old. I can tell you for a fact that you can still smell a rotting dead guy in late February, who hadn't been seen since January... lol
what? how? backstory?
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#10015551 - 03/01/21 06:05 PM
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Is this in some of the ghetto apartment buildings?
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#10015583 - 03/01/21 08:32 PM
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I have that dual N100 mask. You don’t smell a thing even in a small spray booth. No I don’t use it for COVID. The filters are 10 years old. I can tell you for a fact that you can still smell a rotting dead guy in late February, who hadn't been seen since January... lol
I can't imagine what that would look like. Sucks for all involved. RIP
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#10019385 - 03/08/21 10:58 PM
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A2B-Lexus
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Stayed at Markham Stouffville for a night for the birth of my 2nd child on Thursday. Everyone was wearing their masks. Wife didn't have to while in labour. We elected to leave when we could just to be more comfortable at home.
Felt lucky that the cases were not as much lately. Cases seem to be on the raise again.
On an unrelated note. I forgot how much work newborns are.
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#10019402 - 03/09/21 04:49 AM
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Congrats man!
Cases will rip, did anyone see the roads/malls over the weekend?
Someone I am good friends with got covid, the whole family got it, it was one of the new variants that effects younger ppl apparently, older ppl more immune to it (his parents watch their kids, tested negative). Talked to my doc this week, she is saying double mask, the new variants spread much more easily. wtfffff give me the vaccine
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#10019418 - 03/09/21 07:52 AM
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furball
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My parents got dose 1 of Pfizer last Wednesday in York Region, thanks to my BIL who hammered the website for his parents and mine ... No major effects on their end.
The latest official CDC guidance is 2 vax'd individuals can hang out, maskless, indoors
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#10019420 - 03/09/21 07:56 AM
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furball
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....
A girl at work came back from India ... It was a fucked situation for her: - Parents came from India ... (to visit? For how long? No idea) - Father DIES in Canada, day before they were to head back to India - She had to deal with shipping the body/ashes/etc and a grieving mother back to India, and deal with funeral arrangements in India - Travelled back ... last Saturday? ... Quarantined in a hotel, said her test came back negative and now she's back home to finish the rest of the quarantine...
I'm guessing her husband was here the whole time, so even though a) her test is negative, and b) she's to complete her remaining 'quarantine' at home ... I mean, I'd assume she and her husband are in the same house without masks, so, how does that quarantine work again?
The only other comment she said was the food wasn't great at all ...
https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-family-forced-to-pay-3-458-hotel-quarantine-bill-for-one-night-stay-after-returning-to-canada-from-father-s-funeral-1.5329558?cache=trxjaxqprxeg%3FclipId%3D104069 ...They only make you stay for 1 night for international travelers? So will they be monitored? No fukn way all three of them would stay put in the house for next 2 weeks.
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#10019488 - 03/09/21 10:09 AM
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c2k
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Stayed at Markham Stouffville for a night for the birth of my 2nd child on Thursday. Everyone was wearing their masks. Wife didn't have to while in labour. We elected to leave when we could just to be more comfortable at home. Felt lucky that the cases were not as much lately. Cases seem to be on the raise again. On an unrelated note. I forgot how much work newborns are.
congratulations!
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#10019860 - 03/09/21 06:02 PM
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furball
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Anyone up to date with the latest strategy on covid distributions?
I missed the CP24 update, but wifey said: - Wait up to ~4 mths for shot #2; apparently there's no publicly-available results to support the gap between shots? - In Ontario, something about you're able to sign up for a shot in the next group, no matter the age, if you have an 'underlying' medical condition, with no need for 'proof'?! i.e. "Um, yeah, I have a condition. Yeah, a condition"
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#10019880 - 03/09/21 07:03 PM
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Go to Arizona and just get a shot there, available now.
I also have a condition that's developed over 20 years of reading furball posts Should get line bypass and all.
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#10019918 - 03/09/21 08:52 PM
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i've been double masking everywhere I go. Hospital only wants their own mask so that was the exception.
Just a normal non surgical mask doesn't seem to have a tight seal.
I am still only going out for take out and groceries late at night and paying human Pacman where we like turn around if we see someone come my way.
Hope the 3rd wave won't be bad. Vaccine roll out has been pretty sad.
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#10020418 - 03/10/21 06:38 PM
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BroKe
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i don't know why they couldn't have waited a bit longer to get more vaccines in peoples arms before opening up. now its a race between new covid variants and vaccine distribution
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#10020489 - 03/11/21 07:21 AM
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i've been double masking everywhere I go. Hospital only wants their own mask so that was the exception.
Just a normal non surgical mask doesn't seem to have a tight seal. Is this because you feel the virus is aerosol?
Isn't it? Isn't that why we wear a mask in the first place?
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No no, it isn’t airborne.
We wear surgical masks because of the droplet/contact vector of transmission.
All the talk about aerosol is media driven.
Aerosol is when the particles are so fine that they suspend, while droplet is large particles. So you get droplet from coughing, breathing, etc...
Covid is rendered aerosol when you perform aerosol generating medical procedures (ie: CPR, intubation, etc...)
So over the course of this pandemic, we don’t wear respirators unless performing aerosol procedures. Respirators have tight fitting seals. We wear surgical masks even in the presence of covid. Apartments with entire families who are covid positive, covid patients in elevators with us, in the ambo with us... this is all surgical masks.
So on the day-to-day for you guys (general public) a single surgical mask is sufficient. Anything further doesn’t increase prevention of infection.
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#10020689 - 03/11/21 12:29 PM
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My doctor told me to double mask.
Nah fam, I am not doing it.
This fucking shit, give me the vaccine already.
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#10021038 - 03/11/21 09:17 PM
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A2B-Lexus
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I wear double mask (home made fit to size & disposable) because the generic disposable masks doesn't provide a good fit around my face. I feel more secure if the disposable mask is closer to my face.
I want to breath through the mask, not around it. Disposable by itself is like wearing boxers. I want to wear whitie tighties.
i've been double masking everywhere I go. Hospital only wants their own mask so that was the exception.
Just a normal non surgical mask doesn't seem to have a tight seal. Is this because you feel the virus is aerosol?
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#10021877 - 03/14/21 10:02 AM
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well.. wife's school got 2 positive covid cases in 2 different classrooms. Thankfully her classroom was not affected. The fucked up thing is the affected teacher's husband and kids does not have to self-isolate and they can continue to go to school and work while the affected teacher have to stay home and self isolate.
what region did this take place in? I'm curious because Toronto has always had a little more laxed take on this scenario from the get go, I know after inquiring in general about rules vs peel when I was trying to get some answers myself for a similar situation.
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#10021878 - 03/14/21 10:06 AM
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loudsubz
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My doctor also recommended double masking.
] fa real...as soon as covid hit most went MIA or only available by phone call or text WTF. It's been a pita getting ahold of the wifes doctor when we have questions relating to the kids etc must be nice to have doctors
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#10021913 - 03/14/21 12:42 PM
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No no, it isn’t airborne.
We wear surgical masks because of the droplet/contact vector of transmission.
All the talk about aerosol is media driven.
Aerosol is when the particles are so fine that they suspend, while droplet is large particles. So you get droplet from coughing, breathing, etc...
Covid is rendered aerosol when you perform aerosol generating medical procedures (ie: CPR, intubation, etc...)
So over the course of this pandemic, we don’t wear respirators unless performing aerosol procedures. Respirators have tight fitting seals. We wear surgical masks even in the presence of covid. Apartments with entire families who are covid positive, covid patients in elevators with us, in the ambo with us... this is all surgical masks.
So on the day-to-day for you guys (general public) a single surgical mask is sufficient. Anything further doesn’t increase prevention of infection.
thanks 355....this is good to know.
For anyone else that cares, I found a company in Waterloo that makes masks locally https://www.canadianshieldppe.ca. IMO if you wear disposable masks you should make sure they are at least made in NA. I prefer to buy Canadian made masks. Made the mistake of buying a box from a big box store earlier in the pandemic and they're made in China. I forgot to check when I first bought them. The Waterloo place even makes medical grade ones. I'm just about finished the China made ones and I'm gonna order the med grade from Canadian Shield.
Its sad cuz I read a story about how Canadian Shield is starting to lay people off because they can't sell to the gov/hospitals. Not because of price but because all the gov contracts are from overseas distributors. That's pretty sickening IMO.
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#10021969 - 03/14/21 04:08 PM
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loudsubz
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No no, it isn’t airborne.
We wear surgical masks because of the droplet/contact vector of transmission.
All the talk about aerosol is media driven.
Aerosol is when the particles are so fine that they suspend, while droplet is large particles. So you get droplet from coughing, breathing, etc...
Covid is rendered aerosol when you perform aerosol generating medical procedures (ie: CPR, intubation, etc...)
So over the course of this pandemic, we don’t wear respirators unless performing aerosol procedures. Respirators have tight fitting seals. We wear surgical masks even in the presence of covid. Apartments with entire families who are covid positive, covid patients in elevators with us, in the ambo with us... this is all surgical masks.
So on the day-to-day for you guys (general public) a single surgical mask is sufficient. Anything further doesn’t increase prevention of infection.
so what's your take on how this variant spreads faster? is it down to humans again not being as "safe" as they should or is it just that more contagious that even one speck of the virus gets into the airways and you've got it?
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#10021980 - 03/14/21 04:27 PM
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My doctor told me the new variant is way more contagious (not sure on details) and it's more prone to get young people. I have a friend who go it, the whole family ended up getting it but their parents who watch their three kids didn't. It's pretty crazy, everyone was down for 5 days (some worse than others) and then recovered. On your covid test they tell you the variant you get apparently.
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#10022080 - 03/14/21 10:20 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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so what's your take on how this variant spreads faster? is it down to humans again not being as "safe" as they should or is it just that more contagious that even one speck of the virus gets into the airways and you've got it?
So something being considered more contagious is based on at least one of three variables. 1) number of people infected 2) an increase in mode of transmission 3) binds easier to our receptor cells, causing infection.*
For the number it's just a math thing... more people are infected (especially a change in the demographic). Reasons for this are partially explained in the explanation of number 2 For number 2, let's take AIDS and Ebola.
- AIDS is spread through blood borne transmission (whether by injection, contact with microvasculature {like bukkake}). It not droplet, it's not aerosol, nor is it surface. So it isn't considered extremely contagious in the eyes of science even though many people have it. - Ebola is extremely contagious. A cough, a sneeze, normal breathing, touch surfaces, aerosol (like naturally... doesn't even need the help of aerosol generating medical procedures). You can get it every one of those ways. So it has far more vectors, which makes it logically more contagious. - There's an asterisk next to 3 because the vector has to exist for the binding to occur. So if you eliminate example 2, then you heavily limit the chances of example 3.
Part of what I wonder about the new variant is that younger people are vaccinated yet, and younger people tend to be the ones now who are out and about and not really following the rules. The other thing is those young people don't wash their hands much either... and that's basic hygiene. In the end, I don't know why B117 is spreading more... but for a fact it isn't more contagious from the perspective of the Ebola example.
My doctor told me the new variant is way more contagious (not sure on details) and it's more prone to get young people. I have a friend who go it, the whole family ended up getting it but their parents who watch their three kids didn't. It's pretty crazy, everyone was down for 5 days (some worse than others) and then recovered. On your covid test they tell you the variant you get apparently.
Every new variant case that I've dealt with has been younger. Not young young... but like... 30s.
You know what bothers me though, is that when I go to these homes, they're all commingling and shit. That's not a shot at your friends Vas, it's more just what I've seen on calls I go to where I was contacted later about new variant positivity.
In the end, whatever makes you most comfortable is what matters most. As an example, I wear all my shit right? And I'm standing in an abnormally small elevator with a covid + patient. I'd be lying if I said this wasn't my thought process: "shit man... if there's even the slightest breach in my PPE, I'm fucked" and I held my breath the entire ride down
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#10024927 - 03/19/21 12:39 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Yes most likely because we can't seem to eraticate it. People are already getting lax because they think oh, we have a vaccine now we are okay. Which is why cases are going up. Mind you at the rate we are vaccinating at and the fact that we need like 70% for immunity and some people don't want these shit vaccines. I don't see us getting out of this before summer as everyone is trying to push for. Also I read there are going to be 8 new vaccines coming out that are suppose to be better and some don't even require and injection. These have not been approved yet but yah I'll wait for the good ones. Even my parents don't want the AZ. One day it's not for ppl over 65 and the next day the rest of the world is throwing them out and we then decide it's fine for ppl over 65? Um yeah no thanks.
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#10025361 - 03/20/21 07:18 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Yes most likely because we can't seem to eraticate it. People are already getting lax because they think oh, we have a vaccine now we are okay. Which is why cases are going up. Mind you at the rate we are vaccinating at and the fact that we need like 70% for immunity and some people don't want these shit vaccines. I don't see us getting out of this before summer as everyone is trying to push for. Also I read there are going to be 8 new vaccines coming out that are suppose to be better and some don't even require and injection. These have not been approved yet but yah I'll wait for the good ones. Even my parents don't want the AZ. One day it's not for ppl over 65 and the next day the rest of the world is throwing them out and we then decide it's fine for ppl over 65? Um yeah no thanks.
agreed with this. The up and down nature of the AZ one is scary to me. My uncle got AZ last week. He's been fine, was super tired for 2 days after getting it but fine now. Blood clots are silent killers though. I wouldn't get that one for myself when it becomes available to me.
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#10026379 - 03/23/21 05:55 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wife's aunt and uncle went to get their first dose of the vaccine yesterday...they were told the 2nd dose would be July.
What a mess, pretty sure they have to be back to back or they lose their efficacy.
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#10026456 - 03/23/21 08:56 AM
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Here comes the wave of family members calling 911 for their elders who just received the vaccine. Is this a prediction or are you already seeing/experiencing it?
It’s what we’re seeing. Call details are often “just received covid vaccine yesterday... feeling unwell.” And they’re all the 80+ range.
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#10027203 - 03/24/21 09:29 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Parents tried to book a vaccine appointment yesterday. The website is garbage. It doesn't show which slots are taken or available unless you click on each date and time. So you have to click on every date and time until you find an open slot. After that they make you book the second dose appointment at the same time. Except there were no appointments available for the second dose, so they couldnt even continue to get the first dose booked. Website doesn't let you. They tried calling the number and it doesn't work. Then this morning they called another number and was told there are no more vaccines that's why the site doesnt work and to keep trying. But wouldn't tell them when they will be able to book again. Keep trying? Foh. I've been saying this my whole life. Canada is fucking backwards. Can't fuckin get anything right. Complete shitshow. I bet you they are gonna try and push AZ vacc now cause that's all we can get. Fuck off. No one in my family is taking that shit period.
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#10027214 - 03/24/21 09:59 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/23/world/europe/eu-curbs-vaccine-exports.html
E.U. Will Curb Covid Vaccine Exports for 6 Weeks The European Union presented new emergency rules that will most likely severely cut exports to Britain and other countries to ease supply shortages at home.
BRUSSELS — The European Union is advancing emergency legislation that will give it broad powers to curb exports for the next six weeks of Covid-19 vaccines manufactured in the bloc, a sharp escalation in its response to supply shortages at home that have created a political maelstrom amid a rising third wave on the continent.
The legislation unveiled Wednesday includes new rules that will make it harder for pharmaceutical companies producing Covid-19 vaccines in the European Union to export them and are likely to disrupt supply to Britain.
The European Union has been primarily at loggerheads with AstraZeneca since it drastically cut its supply to the bloc, citing production problems in January, and the company is the main target of the new rules. But the legislation, which could block the export of millions of doses from E.U. ports, could also affect the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
Britain is by far the biggest beneficiary of E.U. exports and will stand to lose the most by these rules, but they could also be applied to curb exports to other countries like Canada, for example, the second-largest recipient of E.U.-made vaccines, as well as Israel, which gets doses from the bloc but is very advanced in its vaccination campaign and therefore seen as less needy.
“We are in the crisis of the century. And I’m not ruling out anything for now, because we have to make sure that Europeans are vaccinated as soon as possible,” Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, said in comments last week that paved the way for the new rules. “Human lives, civil liberties and also the prosperity of our economy are dependent on that, on the speed of vaccination, on moving forward.”
The legislation is unlikely to affect the United States, which has so far received fewer than one million doses from E.U.-based facilities.
The Biden administration has said it has secured enough doses from its three authorized manufacturers — Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — to cover all adults in the country by the end of May. The overwhelming bulk of that supply is coming from plants in the United States. The country also exports vaccine components to the European Union, which is reluctant to risk any disruption to the supply chain of raw materials.
The European Union allowed pharmaceutical companies to fulfill their contracts by authorizing them to export more than 40 million vaccine doses to 33 countries between February and mid-March, with 10 million going to Britain and 4.3 million to Canada. The bloc has kept about 70 million at home and distributed them to its 27 member nations, but its efforts to mount mass vaccination campaigns have been set back by a number of missteps.
Exporting liberally overseas when supply at home is thin has been a key part of the problem, and the bloc has come under criticism for permitting exports in the first place, when the United States and Britain practically locked up domestic production for domestic use through contracts with pharmaceutical companies.
The outcome has been a troubled vaccine rollout for the world’s richest group of nations. The impact of the failures is being exacerbated by a third wave that is sending health care systems across the continent into emergency mode and ushering in painful new lockdowns.
not sure if it affects canada's "contracts"
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#10027233 - 03/24/21 10:38 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I think I heard Canada doesn't give a fuck and are still taking them. Most likely because we don't have enough vaccines so they taking anything they can get like a third world country. They are in a rush to open back cause rich people want their summer. My guess is they will stop giving second doses all together.
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#10027258 - 03/24/21 11:22 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I think I heard Canada doesn't give a fuck and are still taking them. Most likely because we don't have enough vaccines so they taking anything they can get like a third world country. They are in a rush to open back cause rich people want their summer. My guess is they will stop giving second doses all together.
I highly doubt they will stop giving second doses altogether. Although I would be surprised if they do end up stopping giving the second doses.
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#10027402 - 03/24/21 02:17 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Well, they've already delayed them from 2 weeks to 4 months lol
Edit: just heard Canada is the only country to do 4 month in between doses.
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#10032582 - 04/01/21 01:50 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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they just interviewed this girl downtown about the new lockdown. she's like " i'm okay with it. they gotta do, what they gotta do to be safe. kinda mad cause i wanna get my nails done, which is what i'm doing right now. trying to squeeze everything in before that happens. whatever we need to do to be safe i'm okay with." no wonder, we are where we are.
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#10032747 - 04/01/21 05:14 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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What a cluster fuck we live.
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#10032748 - 04/01/21 05:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Retailers will be still open at lower capacity. So this shut down wouldn't make any difference for me. When it was a curb side only, it felt like a long drag. But I am good with this shut down.
Ive been cutting my own hair and don't want to eat-in anyway.
What if they took you viddy games?
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#10032941 - 04/02/21 08:46 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10032956 - 04/02/21 09:05 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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They just better hope the virus doesn't mutate to where the vaccines won't work on it because it looks like they are solely relying on vaccines that we current don't have enough of. Which aren't even fully proven to work on newer agressive varients. It's a race.
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#10033147 - 04/02/21 12:44 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Just wait until the warm weather is more consistent. we'll be approaching the five digit daily count.
I'm concerned now with being forced back into the office. I don't want to go back. Not commuting is great, and my home I.T. setup is better than my office one too. I'm dreading being sent back.
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#10033821 - 04/03/21 10:20 PM
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Sounds like a great time to just stay the fxxk home more than ever.
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#10033847 - 04/04/21 05:32 AM
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Today... 3 covid calls among all the other calls we did. One of those was an entire family of positives. We didn’t take anyone. Cancelled them off.
While at one Hospital, another free wheeled by on their way OUT of the EMRG with a patient. Young. Covid positive. Intubated. Sedated. And on levophed. The reason they’re leaving the hospital with this patient is because there’s no room left in the ICU for them so they have to go to a hospital that does.
Unfortunately, SHN (centenary, grace and general) are all over capacity, sunnybrook is over capacity, Humber is full. Over capacity means the ICU is full and there are ICU patients receiving ICU care in the EMRG.
The mobile hospital at Sunnybrook is now accepting applications to staff it ...
That’s not a good time.
Good intel, that's crazy.
I had to take my one daughter to get covid tested a week and a half ago at North York general, place was dead. Literally no one at the testing place, we were the only ones.
We are effectively a third world country, if the government could've vaccinated us at the rate the US is (more than half the population) we'd be pretty much on our way to reopen in a month.
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#10033960 - 04/04/21 10:02 PM
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Saw the story. Super sad. I'd be happy to wait and let the people who are essential workers, front line, etc get their shots first.
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#10033961 - 04/04/21 10:03 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I signed up for Rexall for when it is mine turn and they had an option where they ask if you could be there in a hour if they call you.
Anyone tried to get vaccinated by standing by at the clinics/community centre at the end of the day? Pfizer gets thrown out if not used in time, so they give shots to non-qulaifiers instead of throwing them out. Not sure if that happens in York or Toronto as well. Or do they have a specific people already listed for the left overs? (Family and friends of the health workers etc?)
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#10034210 - 04/05/21 04:42 PM
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Anyone tried to get vaccinated by standing by at the clinics/community centre at the end of the day? Pfizer gets thrown out if not used in time, so they give shots to non-qulaifiers instead of throwing them out. Not sure if that happens in York or Toronto as well. Or do they have a specific people already listed for the left overs? (Family and friends of the health workers etc?)
I didn't know that but it makes sense. Only snag is how do you book your 2nd shot after?
Saw the story. Super sad. I'd be happy to wait and let the people who are essential workers, front line, etc get their shots first.
Same here. I don't mind staying home all summer. I'm not the traveller type so i'm not missing that aspect of life. I much prefer to be not sick, but maybe I'm just nuts. I'm good with ordering food and eating at home and now that the weather is getting better ordering and eating in the backyard. I've become use to just being home and only going out for groceries. And besides, a few people over in the backyard this summer sitting 6ft apart isn't too horrible imo.
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#10034279 - 04/05/21 06:58 PM
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#10034371 - 04/05/21 09:50 PM
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#10034396 - 04/05/21 11:30 PM
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Texas today...
Quick facts -1,100 New cases in Texas yesterday -3,000 New cases in Ontario -Texas population 1.6 times higher than Ontario
Are they testing more or less than us? (Positivity rate would be a better indicator)
As well, curious as to what their vaccination rate is (I'm sure it's ways ahead of the rate we're going).
US may've started slow to curb this, but they are doing it faster than us and may come out ahead (despite suffering a much larger casualty).
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#10034799 - 04/06/21 03:04 PM
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And.....I picked up 8 boxes of 20-pack KN95s @ Costco .... Where's my fucking vaccine
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#10035070 - 04/07/21 05:32 AM
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So what's the deal with getting a vaccine at end of day so they aren't thrown out? How easy is it to get one of those, which kind is it (do they tell you)?
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#10035076 - 04/07/21 06:01 AM
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So what's the deal with getting a vaccine at end of day so they aren't thrown out? How easy is it to get one of those, which kind is it (do they tell you)?
It's not that easy to get a freebie jab. They probably have maybe 2 or 3 at the most at the end of the day and it goes to towards the staff who work at the clinic (janitor, front desk workers, staff who work in a building but not directly with the clinic). If you had gone to the clinic in mid-March, it was easier to get one.
The clinics only administers Pfizer or Moderna. AztraZenca is administered at pharmacies.
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#10035080 - 04/07/21 06:40 AM
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You old 45-59 geriatrics, line up in York if your postal matches. Postal codes L4L, L6A, L4K, L4J and L3S.
https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/york-re...orrow-1.5376647
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#10035090 - 04/07/21 07:22 AM
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So what's the deal with getting a vaccine at end of day so they aren't thrown out? How easy is it to get one of those, which kind is it (do they tell you)? It's not that easy to get a freebie jab. They probably have maybe 2 or 3 at the most at the end of the day and it goes to towards the staff who work at the clinic (janitor, front desk workers, staff who work in a building but not directly with the clinic). If you had gone to the clinic in mid-March, it was easier to get one. The clinics only administers Pfizer or Moderna. AztraZenca is administered at pharmacies.
My wife's cousin/husband easily got in, I just don't want to drive to High Park for it.
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#10035694 - 04/08/21 08:02 AM
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I'd rather wait longer for Moderna or Pfizer or even J&J. I don't trust AZ enough w/ my life
mom got AZ. lets see if she dies.
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#10035698 - 04/08/21 08:12 AM
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I'd rather wait longer for Moderna or Pfizer or even J&J. I don't trust AZ enough w/ my life mom got AZ. lets see if she dies.
Let's not please. Im happy that your mom received a shot.
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#10035763 - 04/08/21 09:43 AM
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me too.
fyi when i took her 2 weeks ago to the pharmacy (etobicoke) it was empty. nobody showed up to their appointments and took my mom in 30 min early.
wonder if its the AZ scare or something else...
The media did a great job to scare the bejesus out of me and it's enough for me not want to get AZ.
Nonetheless, the important thing is that your mom got the shot.
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#10036034 - 04/08/21 02:50 PM
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Dropped into Costco ... Ghost town ... they've spent a ton of time shifting products to block off the middle of the shop (clothing), and tons of aisles had stuff blocked off with moving wrap ...
So yeah, they've learned from the bickering from the 2 previous lockdowns re: essential vs non-essential items in stores.
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#10036181 - 04/08/21 07:15 PM
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Lol people complained so much about fairness, now they can't get anything lol how ironic. Happy about this move tho. Too much leisure shopping during a pandemic. Only took a year lol
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#10036549 - 04/09/21 11:33 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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It almost seems like all of these decisions that become our new reality get formulated in a place like this:
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#10038012 - 04/12/21 12:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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my folks covered for shots so glad there.
as for wife and myself, no rush at all. i'm all for vax of estasblish diseases but i'm not running out the door for this one. will wait a bit and see. and yes for this one it's worthwhile being 'choosy' IMO.
I'm in the same boat here. parents have been vaxed. I don't leave my house or see anyone so I can wait. part of my hesitancy wants to see how they handle the 2nd dose first. I don't know what's up with the 4 months in between doses but i'm thinking they could possibly fuck up administering the second dose they way things are going.
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#10038129 - 04/12/21 01:29 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: loudsubz]
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Another summer of 'working' from the cottage for the politicians. They will see if they can string it along for next year too.
Boomer life.
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#10038492 - 04/13/21 10:02 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: loudsubz]
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BroKe
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j&j vaccine halted in USA for blood clotting. Reminder that these vaccine companies are legally not liable for anything that happens to you after taking it. Was part of the clause that let them come out so fast.
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#10038908 - 04/13/21 10:41 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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This 3rd wave with the new strains seems to be exponentially worst. Happy my Mom got her shot.
I am not in a hurry to get my shot only because i can work from home. Get the people who work in the public their shot.....
Was able to get some KN95 at Costco earlier in the week. That stuff fits so much better.
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#10040430 - 04/15/21 11:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: 355-Si]
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What I want to know is what is the general health of the majority of these younger (lets say under 50) Covid patients that are requiring hospitalization or EMT treatment? They're saying younger patients are requiring hospitalizations, but are they smokers? obese? sedentary lifestyles? Not much about this in the media as these numbers / reports we see daily don't discuss this, just an increase in numbers meant to scare us into compliance....
As for the AZ recommendation to not be given to those under 55, I see this as just playing a numbers game. If you are over 55 you may be statistically more likely to have serious complications from Covid, so take your chances with AZ if its all you can get, however if you're younger take the Covid and statistically you'll survive. Its clearly an inferior vaccination, pretty sad how its being pushed on us like we're in a third world country.
I still debate taking the AZ if I could get it, but having had extremely rare side effects of medications find me, I'm hoping I could wait for one of the better two and battle Covid, were it to find its way into me.
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#10040462 - 04/16/21 04:12 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: 1300cc_Rocket]
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As for the AZ recommendation to not be given to those under 55, I see this as just playing a numbers game. If you are over 55 you may be statistically more likely to have serious complications from Covid, so take your chances with AZ if its all you can get, however if you're younger take the Covid and statistically you'll survive. Its clearly an inferior vaccination, pretty sad how its being pushed on us like we're in a third world country.
I still debate taking the AZ if I could get it, but having had extremely rare side effects of medications find me, I'm hoping I could wait for one of the better two and battle Covid, were it to find its way into me.
Good to see you post, I am pretty aligned with you.
For example the JJ vaccine and the apparent "blood clots", i think the risk is something like 6/1,000,000 and of the 6 blood clots only 1 was a death. On a risk adjusted basis how is this even an issue and why would they cancel the vaccine when covid in absolute numbers is something like 100x relatively more dangerous than a blood clot.
In a long winded way if I had the option to vaccinate vs. not and JJ was the only thing available I'd consider it long and hard.
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#10040518 - 04/16/21 07:44 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: 355-Si]
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I mean no disrespect to the virus, it's severity and it's ability to change course to effecting younger people more severely. By no means do I feel immune to it despite not having any known comorbidities and I'm not a super fit athlete or gym rat myself. I consider locating the AZ everyday, because it might be better than nothing, but given the numbers driven recommendations, i think for many, waiting for the more proven vaccines seems like something you or your family could beat yourself up about less were something to go wrong leading to your demise (with either the vaccine or the virus).
I remember at the beginning of all this they were mentioning confirmed cases and assumed cases , and I know this had a lot to do with the lack of testing, but I felt those numbers were powerful and wonder why they aren't reporting those numbers today, as I'm sure there is a way to scientifically guess what the Actual cases are based on the amount of people that are still asymptomatic in random testing.
Sorry to you 355-Si and all other health care workers that have to deal with this longer because of our government's failure to procure or produce quality vaccines sooner. Thanks for your continued hard work.
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#10040639 - 04/16/21 10:04 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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What I want to know is what is the general health of the majority of these younger (lets say under 50) Covid patients that are requiring hospitalization or EMT treatment? They're saying younger patients are requiring hospitalizations, but are they smokers? obese? sedentary lifestyles? Not much about this in the media as these numbers / reports we see daily don't discuss this, just an increase in numbers meant to scare us into compliance.... It does t matter what their general health is. Bottom line is people are getting sick. It's impossible to isolate the well healthy from obese smokers. This shit is highly contagious. As much as I'd like to distrust the media. The facts are out there. Remember this is a global pandemic not just USA and Canada.
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#10040968 - 04/16/21 04:22 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: BroKe]
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wow, wtf
"Ontario gives police authority to stop vehicles, ask people purpose of travel"
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#10041086 - 04/16/21 07:06 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Right, going full "communist mode" will show that virus. NOW it will work for sure.
How about getting vaccines available for the public?
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#10041116 - 04/16/21 08:23 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: porschetr]
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BroKe
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well, people have been ignoring this "Stay Home" order. The driving range by my place is always full, nearby parks are full of cars.
It's finally time to do something. FUck "my rights". That's what's causing this drag.
Australia did a heavy intensive lock down in the beginning. People were angry. But they are now almost Covid free with only 29,000 Total Cases.
It's too late for us now, but whatever encourages people to stop fool around, I am good with it.
Even with this new authority, you know most cops won't do anything. We are sick of this.
You don't like it, but the best way to beat Covid is going full Communist mode. Countries that had heavy restrictions in the beginning, they are sitting at restaurants with friends today.
agree with all of this. just be glad we're not like brazil at 3000 deaths a day. lol
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#10041124 - 04/16/21 08:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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i am just glad my mom and her boyfriend got it. At least I don't have to worry as much for them.
I am fortunately my job can be done virtually. We need vaccines for those who can't work from home. Sad so many lives are lost because or government sucks
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#10041323 - 04/17/21 04:53 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: 355-Si]
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Playgrounds closed Playgrounds open
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#10041332 - 04/17/21 05:44 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10041730 - 04/18/21 06:33 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Ya it really sucks. She is devastated and posted a self video in tears. I would be too if my parent's life saving surgery was cancelled.
That is horrible. Feel so bad for your friend. I don’t understand why stories like this isn’t making the news more. So many people now are being diagnosed with late stage cancer and the list goes on and on. This is some 3rd world shit Canada.
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#10041847 - 04/19/21 08:29 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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You are 40 AND you are back?
#blessedMonday
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#10041967 - 04/19/21 11:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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So people who got 'vaccinated' at Mackenzie health got saline shots? WTF
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#10042030 - 04/19/21 12:26 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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So people who got 'vaccinated' at Mackenzie health got saline shots? WTF
What?!?!
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#10042239 - 04/19/21 02:42 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Some incompetence right there
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#10042730 - 04/19/21 09:51 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Yup.....+40 dude here and took the AZ. Considering the hospitals are busting at the seams, rather just take something and get over with.
So far so good. Still 11 fingers.
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#10042841 - 04/20/21 08:24 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Just signed up to be notified by Rexall or Shoppers Drug Mart ...
Yeah it's for Astra, if I had a choice I'd choose the other 2, but ... here we go.
I was just messaging with a cousin of mine, she's in a childcare setting, and 2 aging parents ... Just found out she's anti-vax'ish ... Full of conspiracy theory shit, worried about the 'variants' and 'holding off' .... wtf...
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#10042870 - 04/20/21 08:50 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Yup.....+40 dude here and took the AZ. Considering the hospitals are busting at the seams, rather just take something and get over with.
So far so good. Still 11 fingers.
How diligent are they with checking ID and age? I am 37, wonder if I can get in?
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#10043020 - 04/20/21 11:04 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Peel to force businesses with 5+ cases to close. As much as this may help, this is as much of a punishment to businesses that truly make an effort to provide appropriate measures and have employees that are not cautious outside the workplace. Why can we not prioritize vaccines to essential workers instead of "hot spots"? Ex. i know people that work at home all day, live in a hot spot, and would be eligible for the vaccine over an essential worker.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-covid-businesses-closed-section-22-1.5994257
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#10043078 - 04/20/21 11:45 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Meanwhile we keep importing mutating variants of covid into the country from India. But that's not the issue, close more businesses instead:
https://twitter.com/BenRabidoux/status/1384475467156164610?s=20
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#10043575 - 04/20/21 06:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Yup.....+40 dude here and took the AZ. Considering the hospitals are busting at the seams, rather just take something and get over with.
So far so good. Still 11 fingers.
How diligent are they with checking ID and age? I am 37, wonder if I can get in?
There is forms to sign and i entered my health card which they probably reference to check the age.
Woke up at 5 am last night. Felt like I was on fire. I had a 38 degree fever. Today, took Tylenol every 4 hours but still feeling chills.
I could have taken a day off but with 2 kids, I was better to "work" than take a sick day.
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#10043692 - 04/20/21 08:35 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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I felt ok....just tired but could be from not getting good sleep.
I hope i feel better tomorrow. My brother was wiped out and was in bed for most of the day.
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#10044589 - 04/22/21 10:05 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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lol if I was going to India right now, i'd be full hazmat too. double mutant strain about to pop off there.
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#10044608 - 04/22/21 10:34 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Yet we keep letting more people from India fly into pearson that are confirmed covididiots.
Why?
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#10044627 - 04/22/21 10:48 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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zaius
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https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/c...-covid-hotspots
Air Canada flight crew members reported to the Toronto Sun that there’s widespread anxiety concerning flights from Delhi — which since February, has grown into Canada’s single-highest source of international passengers infected with the potentially deadly respiratory disease.
At least half of the four-daily non-stop flights from India’s capital this month carried COVID-positive passengers, according to information posted online by Health Canada.
Between April 1-19, both Air Canada and Air India operated 47 infected flights from Delhi to Canadian airports.
India’s second wave — fuelled by the virulent “‘double-mutant” B.1.617 variant — has unleashed a nightmare in the South Asian country with 300,000 new cases reported on Wednesday.
The 166 infected international flights that landed in Canada so far this month include 27 from the United States, 14 from Paris, 13 from Doha, Qatar, and eight from Frankfurt — destinations served by Air Canada.
One crew member told the Sun Delhi-assigned crews are fearful as they watch co-workers book off to quarantine or recover from COVID — a sentiment shared by their union, which has fielded “multiple” complaints from members regarding those flights.
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#10044631 - 04/22/21 10:51 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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HBD man, no better thread to celebrate in than the covidiot thread.
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#10044966 - 04/22/21 04:13 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Under 40?
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#10044977 - 04/22/21 04:50 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://twitter.com/HRHospital/status/1385248150559023104
No line at Downsview Arena pop-up clinic. 600 does of #AstraZeneca available today. First come first serve. Since there is no line, they will now take any #Toronto resident, regardless of area code, 40+. Only for TORONTO residents. Must show proof of address. #vaccine #vaccines
Huge thanks for this post, I passed along the information to a friend of mine and she was able to get the shot today.
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#10044987 - 04/22/21 05:17 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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For under 40 and not in a hotspot at home or work, and not fitting into any other phase 2 category, it's going to be a few more weeks. There's a strong push to get the hotspot neighbourhoods and workplaces taken care of ASAP. Then there's still a whackload of priority groups (essential workers, teachers, at-risk medical conditions, etc.). I think the best hope to get in sooner is if the age threshold for the AZ shot is lowered again, possibly to 30+ as it is in the UK.
The good news is our supply of Pfizer is going up for all of May, then further up in June. And we're starting to see J&J shots coming next week.
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#10045521 - 04/23/21 01:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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if they did this in the beginning, we wouldn't be as fxxked as we are now
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#10046942 - 04/27/21 05:53 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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c2k
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Been getting pressure from wife to get a shot, any shot, because in Halton we're still at the 55+ age group.
I looked at Vaccine Hunters on Twitter, and ended up getting an Astra shot in Sauga Shoppers Drug Mart. (30 min drive + 45 min wait outside + 30 min inside)
The rest of the process is now confusing. Because I don't have a 2nd dose appointment, I have no idea wtf I do. I assume because this is a walk-in appt, I assume for the second dose I have to rush/find my own 2nd dose appt in about 4 mths.
You may be able to get the second shot sooner rather than later.
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#10047779 - 04/28/21 08:02 AM
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furball
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I had my Astra shot on a Sunday afternoon.
I had my typical 'flu shot' symptoms, but more intense, and longer (2-3x as long): - sore arm - sensitive skin pretty much full body (like a sunburn) - tired ....
It's Wed AM and my arm is still sore.
Wife said to NOT take any Tylenol etc during the first 1-2 days, as it'll decrease the immune response or something? ...
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#10047824 - 04/28/21 09:34 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wife said to NOT take any Tylenol etc during the first 1-2 days, as it'll decrease the immune response or something? ...
interesting. pharma tech said take tylenol or advil for fever/pain but didnt mention a time when or when not to.
did a virtual doc call online and they said if my skin isnt painful or itchy the discoloration isnt anything to be concerned about. just to monitor it.
hope you feel better furball!
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#10049920 - 05/01/21 01:47 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Where did you get the moderna? Hospital? Are you high risk?
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#10050067 - 05/02/21 01:21 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Wifes ICU is currently at 21 COVID+. 17 from the GTA lol.
Her ER which normally has about 16 RNs, has been trying to run with 12-13. Lots of sick calls, personal days, stress. Her Manager has basically checked out.
Had a family of 8 come all the way from Brampton. All of them positive.
Mental health has sky rocked. Lots of ODs, alcohol poisoning, I wanna kill myself. Plus all the regulars, normal patients from accidents, injuries, normal sick people.
Shes been an RN for 18 years now and always loved it. The past few months especially being locked down, no gyms, restaurants, malls and no travel, shes really starting to get stressed and upset regularly. The bottle of tequila I bought last week was gone in a few nights.
On a positve note, Im getting my vaccine this week. AZ but Im not waiting around for another one.
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#10050076 - 05/02/21 08:31 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Why is Canada the only country in the world experimenting with second dose times. 4 month from 2 week recommendation. Seems like a bad move that could potentially blow up in our face.
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#10050091 - 05/02/21 11:24 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Why is Canada the only country in the world experimenting with second dose times. 4 month from 2 week recommendation. Seems like a bad move that could potentially blow up in our face. Not enough vaccines. Even with just one shot, most people will avoid death or hospitalization if they catch COVID. So they rather have everyone with the first dose than some people with two doses.
For how long though? First shot starts wearing off over time. If the manufacturer recommends 3 weeks and you go 4 months, that sounds like gamble to me. Only country in the world to do this. Untested. Smh
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#10050092 - 05/02/21 11:29 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Edit: after some research it looks like they maybe be shortening the time in between. Good.
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#10050143 - 05/02/21 05:45 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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On Tuesday they are opening vaccinations for those in Markham that are 35+, only certain postal codes. Mine isn't on it
Also is there a rule of thumb or a way to find out what vaccine is administered prior to booking a place? Is it disclosed up front, do I need to call and ask?
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#10050144 - 05/02/21 05:49 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Never mind, looks like I can get it based on "where I work" and they disclosed it's Pfizer or Moderna.
Let's see if I can get it this week.
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#10050207 - 05/03/21 07:50 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Still can't believe we wasted an entire year of doing nothing about it until now. Praying they don't fuck it up with reopening shit too early and second dose distribution
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#10050252 - 05/03/21 08:54 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Still can't believe we wasted an entire year of doing nothing about it until now. Praying they don't fuck it up with reopening shit too early and second dose distribution
Curious, for someone as vocal as you have you been vaccinated yet?
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#10050328 - 05/03/21 09:58 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Still can't believe we wasted an entire year of doing nothing about it until now. Praying they don't fuck it up with reopening shit too early and second dose distribution Curious, for someone as vocal as you have you been vaccinated yet?
no, its not my turn yet. I'm not going to region hop, or wait in line or even run around to fight for it. I will register when online booking becomes available for me. I haven't left my house in over a year. I hope these ppl that are scurring to get their first dose don't get too lax either
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#10050332 - 05/03/21 10:07 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Still can't believe we wasted an entire year of doing nothing about it until now. Care to elaborate? I'm not saying this past year has gone smoothly, but I'm curious as to how you define "doing nothing".
took too long to close boarders, kept loosening lockdown restrictions way too early, took too long to start enforcing any orders. took too long to look at businesses and schools as places of transmission. had a entire year to plan vaccination roll out and yet we have people waiting in line for 5 hours. and the main thing was not enough public education on covid, which is why why have people protesting over it. saying masks aren't needed then needed, down playing covid at first. I was tracking covid from china back in NOV 2019 and purchased n95 masks back then because I knew it was coming due to chinese new year and such. and who TF am I? nobody. whole government was in denile for the longest time. and i've said this before but it has to do with alot of privilege and entitlement.
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#10050724 - 05/03/21 06:21 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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I haven't left my house in over a year. This absolutely boggles my mind. How old are you?
not literally lol. I still go get food, but I got laid off a year ago so I haven't been going out really. haven't seen my friends in a year lol
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#10050725 - 05/03/21 06:29 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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so....like what do you do to keep busy?
Are you inventing a cure for cancer?
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#10050743 - 05/03/21 07:19 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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so....like what do you do to keep busy?
Are you inventing a cure for cancer?
working out lol I was over weight going into this and now i'm the lightest i've ever been in my adult life. its boring sometimes but I actually enjoy not having anything to do. blessing and a curse I guess.
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#10050771 - 05/03/21 08:17 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The Postman
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Im the total opposite. Im out and about daily like nothing has changed.
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#10050895 - 05/04/21 08:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Same, I go to my isolated office every day. The 10 min commute in itself is something I look forward to in Sport +. Can't do the work from home, would go insane.
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#10050934 - 05/04/21 09:44 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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porschetr
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Im the total opposite. Im out and about daily like nothing has changed. I’m the exact same way, nothing has changed besides not being able to go the the US for me. Just to make it clear, I’m not criticizing broke or anyone who is in full lockdown mode, I just think the extreme paranoia some people have is crazy.
So you guys hang out with buddies/other couples/ cousins and visit illegally opened businesses ? I only hang out with 1 couple and I feel I am taking a risk. We are all vaccinated now however.
Turned out the cousin of my buddy who are distantly neighbour to me visited laser hair removal place during the lockdown and caught Covid there. It was at someone's basement and the owners family upstairs was a Covid patient. She ended up in oxygen supply and 3 of her family all tested positive. She just got out of the hospital last week.
You never know which family member/ friend made an idiot move.
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#10050977 - 05/04/21 10:39 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I go to 3 places with regularity. Office (solo)/Parks(kids)/No Frills
Shame me.
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#10051041 - 05/04/21 12:28 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Simon_the_Pieman
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out and about daily? you guys going to pubs, coffee shops, gyms, automotive shops to shoot the shit, play golf, etc?
Not being able to play Golf pissed me off as it's my "quiet time".
golf courses should be open tbh. they could just change the rules to only let people play solo.
for me, since i work in an industry that requires myself to be out and about, i have no choice. either that or close up shop. being diligent and taking precautions obviously. i must say that i am not looking forward to going back to regular traffic. the roads have been lovely lmao.
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#10051397 - 05/04/21 05:41 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I still can't get an appointment, the only website has been crashing for me and I don't want to register at those 'pop up' ones as they are all AZ. Unless I am doing something wrong. Not in a hot zone postal code.
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#10051587 - 05/05/21 12:55 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Raocorp
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i'm in a hot spot and was finally able to book an appt on monday when it opened up online. I waited in a virtual line for about 2hrs to be able to book my appt but I was working from home anyway so I didn't really care. Appt is 2 weeks out but thats ok, I don't mind.
I'm still doing the groceries only thing but i've become used to it so it doesn't even phase me anymore. Been working from home for over 1yr now, again, used to it. I think I've said before that my home work setup is far superior to my work work setup so I'd rather work from home now. Plus the commute time and cost savings is huge. If everything could go back to normal and I could continue working from home I'd be happy like a pig in shit.
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#10052043 - 05/05/21 03:38 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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If you don't mind in passing, if you see something in Markham/Richmond Hill, 35+ with Pfizer/Moderna let me know. I follow the twitter account, but for the most part I am not seeing anything come up for me.
Reddit interface is beyond my IQ, couple of minutes there and I lose my shit.
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#10052067 - 05/05/21 04:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
[Re: Risky Business]
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Never mind, just booked online.
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#10052081 - 05/05/21 04:24 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
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#10052261 - 05/06/21 05:14 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I guess it's not happening (thought I booked - didn't check out, went back right now to finish and everything is taken). What a cluster fuck of a booking system. Although this was a EUE
Some places that apparently have spots won't let me book because the postal code on my health card isn't a hot spot one and I am trying to use my 'work' postal code. FFS
If you see something for the east let me know.
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#10052289 - 05/06/21 08:19 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
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York is doing 18+ for those who live or work in the following postal codes: L0J, L3L, L4H, L4J, L4K, L4L, L6A, L3T, L6B, L6C, L6E, L3S, L4B, L4C, L4E, L9N
Currently there are limited bookings showing for:
Cornell Community Centre (Markham) 1-833-943-3900 ( https://covid19.ontariohealth.ca/
Ray Twinney Complex (Newmarket) 1-844-301-8080 https://yrh.vertoengage.com/
Cortellucci Vaughan Hospital (Vaughan) 1-844-301-8080 https://yrh.vertoengage.com/
All of the info can be found here. Make sure you click on the correct section and refresh frequently.
https://www.york.ca/wps/portal/yorkhome/health/yr/covid-19/covid19vaccinationclinics/
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#10052334 - 05/06/21 09:30 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I went to all of those at 5am, all were booked despite the main page showing as appointments were still available.
I will keep checking.
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#10052362 - 05/06/21 10:31 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Links aren't working now, lol clusterfuck.
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#10052424 - 05/06/21 11:35 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Just got my first AZ. I'll keep you guys posted if I have any side effects.
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#10052453 - 05/06/21 11:59 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Holy shit, CloudFlare AND Captcha ... ain't playing around ...
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#10052518 - 05/06/21 01:30 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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can't wait to get pissed off trying to book mine next week lol fukkk
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#10052568 - 05/06/21 02:40 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
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Links aren't working now, lol clusterfuck.
Soccer City has openings for 35+ (maybe 18+) living or working in:
City of Vaughan postal codes: L0J, L3L, L4H, L4J, L4K, L4L, L6A City of Markham postal codes: L3T, L6B, L6C, L6E, L3S City of Richmond Hill postal codes: L4B, L4C, L4E Town of East Gwillimbury postal code: L9N
https://www.eventbrite.ca/o/soccercity-covid-19-vaccination-clinic-32957385009
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#10052679 - 05/06/21 05:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Saw this link and tried a few times as it's my first pick, every event says "Sold Out".
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#10052890 - 05/07/21 04:58 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Checked all 10 locations, again nothing.
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#10052949 - 05/07/21 09:28 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Looks like they changed the the dates in York region. Could have sworn I read the other day that all 40+ can book may 10 and all 30+ can book may 17. I guess I won't be able to book till July. Such a shame they decide to reward the areas not giving a fuck with first crack.
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#10052979 - 05/07/21 10:10 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Big Tasty
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Wife waited to hear back from her Doc as she has some medical issues and didn't want to get the shot before getting an OK from them. So we hear there's a pop up at Warden Hill top so I drive her down and was shocked at the line up.
Like I said before, mine was less than an hour in and out at my location. We get to the Warden one that is covering multiple postal codes and the line is literally a block long then went into and around the neighbourhood (shown in red). Seeing that we just turned around and went home. She eventually got an appointment for today, hoping there is no delay since an appointment time was set.
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#10053117 - 05/07/21 12:20 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
miataist
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Here's another York Region page to bookmark:
https://ca.apm.activecommunities.com/yorkregion/Activity_Search
(Currently showing 1 booking available in Georgina for next week). I think this one updates quickly as people cancel appointments.
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#10053422 - 05/07/21 07:00 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Checked now, all gone.
Is there a way to get notified via email?
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#10053562 - 05/08/21 10:48 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The Postman
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So got my AZ Thursday. Arm was a bit sore and most of Friday my whole body ached. Did have any other side effects and today I feel fine.
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#10053884 - 05/10/21 05:20 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
miataist
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May 10th 8:30 am York Region is releasing 78,000 spots Book at: https://york.ca/covid19vaccine
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#10053885 - 05/10/21 05:53 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Will try today at 8:30, not holding my breath.
Noticed more dates were added, used to end at May 20th, now goes to May 24th but none are available.
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#10053888 - 05/10/21 06:22 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Is this for AZ or Pfizer/Moderna? My neighbour got fed up and just walked into one of those shoppers ones and got AZ, no line ups, no waiting.
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#10053897 - 05/10/21 07:35 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Risky Business
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Done, May 13th.
GNSP
Special thanks to Miata god.
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#10053906 - 05/10/21 08:08 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Senor Eduardo_82
miataist
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Excellent. I suggest getting the shot in your non-dominant arm. My buddy got his in his shifting arm and couldn't hit 5th or 6th for a couple of days
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#10054117 - 05/10/21 01:19 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Thanks everyone. Got an appointment and didn't have to fight for it. May 13 drive thru which I don't mind at all.
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#10054119 - 05/10/21 01:21 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Always get a shot in the non-dominant arm.
For a second I read always get in the dominant arm. Good thing I re-read this or I would have played myself. Lol
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#10054120 - 05/10/21 01:22 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Simon_the_Pieman
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Always get a shot in the non-dominant arm.
you can ask to get it in the bum too
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#10054158 - 05/10/21 02:17 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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zaius
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Is this for AZ or Pfizer/Moderna? My neighbour got fed up and just walked into one of those shoppers ones and got AZ, no line ups, no waiting.
All Pfizer
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#10054999 - 05/11/21 07:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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#10055912 - 05/13/21 08:58 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Risky Business
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Got my shot, in and out in 20 minutes, 15 minutes of that was the mandatory 15 minute waiting period after getting the vaccine.
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#10058883 - 05/18/21 06:52 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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So, was feeling weird 'n shit yesterday afternoon ... Similar 'symptoms' as after 24 hrs taking the Astra ... I was like ok, wtf ... (no fever, coughing, difficulty breathing.) -- I took Astra dose 1 like ... a few weeks ago, so it ain't that per se.
So, decided to call/drive around for the rapid covid test at Shoppers Drug Mart. What a shit show...
- 1 place said yeah we do it but not in stock. I ask if they do it or what, guy says no we give you the kit and you do it at home - Another place said no the pharmacist does it for you; let me ask first if they're ok doing it. - 2 other places said yeah we have it but for educators/children in school only, because we cannot be seen as profiting off the supply given by the govt (apparently there's "two" different supplies?) - another place said to call head office if you want more info.
So ... anyway ... confusing as fuck. Undecided whether I'll line up this afternoon for a test at a provincial (?) testing site. I felt better after a sleep. (Then again, that's what the vaccine does; it makes the symptoms less severe...)
If the 'kits' are available, I'll pick up a handful of them, at $40 a pop .... we're gonna need to test in the coming weeks/months/years anyway ....
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#10059390 - 05/18/21 03:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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got my shot yesterday afternoon, other than arm pain I feel fine. I went to the Congress Centre. It was fast, and easy vs. the downsview arena pop-up clinic by my house was like rats on a pile of shit.
Edited by Raocorp (05/18/21 03:37 PM)
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#10059527 - 05/18/21 09:45 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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pheggit
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Guys, if you need to get swabbed, my wife works at Scarborough Grace and can help expedite you.
Thanks man. That’s awesome, will keep this in mind.
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#10060469 - 05/20/21 08:42 AM
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Probably in my head but I feel like i've been running out of air sooner than before when I do my running now after the first shot. Anyone else seeing a decrease in performance?
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#10060754 - 05/20/21 02:42 PM
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#10067355 - 06/02/21 10:11 PM
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BroKe
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do you get a sore arm from the second shot like the first one?
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#10067896 - 06/03/21 07:06 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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well then....not looking forward to that lol
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#10067943 - 06/03/21 09:41 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I intend to blend/mix Astra with whatever 'other' one I can get .. Moderna or Pfizer, when the opportunity arrives.
likewise.
i’m going for the cocktail.
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#10068565 - 06/04/21 09:02 PM
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nice. good to hear. thanks for the heads up
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#10069946 - 06/08/21 09:32 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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heard the second one hits, but its like and flip of a switch and all of a sudden you are back to 100% ?
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#10072359 - 06/11/21 10:19 AM
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I guess you develop a hard shell on the outside.
But aside from that, having a solid network of friends and family (and a good partner) help immensely. Very little phases me at this point (I don't think that's a good thing. Just means I'm probably psychologically fucked.)
Adult deaths aren't too tough... kids are always a little different but even then, the last bad kid call I did was for a 14 year old in cardiac arrest and we continued on with our day. That same day, we ended up doing 4 cardiac arrests (which is a personal record for us.)
The last time I was emotionally affected by a bad call was 6 years ago when I did a cardiac arrest for a 28 day old on a night shift. A couple of tears fell from the eyes when I walked out of the EMRG but when I got home after shift I actually cried (I had a 3 year old at home and when he ran out to see me in the morning to hug me, I just sorta lost it.) Since then, the shell of armour has just gotten thicker.
Most of the job you just find a lot of humour in... sometimes (often) it's really dark and inappropriate. Very racist, bigoted, sexist, and everything that the left hates. But it lives between me and my partner in the ambulance and I think that's a large coping mechanism too. And it's not that we actually believe what we're saying, but it gets you through the 12 to 16 hour shifts.
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#10072559 - 06/11/21 03:01 PM
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Finding less covid calls over the past month or so... not even one a day on the average.
That said, had a couple this week with one of them dropping dead after calling for shortness of breath. He was 34 years old and diagnosed covid positive. We did that entire cardiac arrest in the courtyard of a townhouse complex with people and their kids looking on (people really need to pull their kids back from that. it's not something for them to see.) IVs, drugs, tubes in throats, chest compressions...
We never got him back and he ended up dying. Sad story. I can't even imagine what to feel. How do you cope w/ the loss of life on the job?
he copes with it by farting on my desk
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#10072682 - 06/11/21 09:39 PM
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Tough gig man. Glad you can mentally cope with that. Kudos to you.
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#10074659 - 06/15/21 10:18 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Moderna for me next week. Delta variant is here....not going to wait.
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#10078457 - 06/23/21 12:43 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I will be declining if they try to mix mine. haven't booked my second appointment yet though, so hopefully I won't get my time wasted. they should really just say ahead of time instead of trying to trick people into mixing that don't want to mix. such a waste of peoples time and the spot could be used for someone that does want to mix instead of going to waste.
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#10078756 - 06/23/21 09:58 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I am going to be AZ+M tomorrow. Going to be wearing a mask regardless since the 3 yr old and 3 month old can't take anything. We will be pretty much outdoors people in the summer and playing it by ear in the fall.
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#10078823 - 06/24/21 07:29 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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It's still advised not to mix UNLESS the only thing available is a different one. Because they want herd immunity as fast as possible.they basically saying take anything you can get for the sake of the whole. I can wait for supply to come back. Not a big deal to me. Everyone is in some mad rush because they wanna go eat at restaurants smh
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#10078932 - 06/24/21 10:00 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Aren't you the one that hasn't been out for over a year? I mean ...In that scenario, whyzit matter tho.
There's validity re: 'not mixing', and not because of brand awareness....
Apparently international community doesn't recognize it, so travel might be an issue to the snob countries
US Food and Drug Adminstration: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedne...asked-questionsQ: Are the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine interchangeable? A: No. There are no data available on the interchangeability of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine with other COVID-19 vaccines, including Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. Individuals who have received one dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine should receive a second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to complete the vaccination series. Individuals who have received one dose of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine should receive a second dose of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to complete the vaccination series.
It's still advised not to mix UNLESS the only thing available is a different one. Because they want herd immunity as fast as possible.they basically saying take anything you can get for the sake of the whole. I can wait for supply to come back. Not a big deal to me. Everyone is in some mad rush because they wanna go eat at restaurants smh
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#10078948 - 06/24/21 10:14 AM
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It matters to me cause it's going into my body. Im not even 100% on these vaccines in general but when you talk about vaccine vs. no vaccine it's better to take the vaccine than getting covid. But to mix and match just cause you can't wait a week or 2. No thanks.
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#10081039 - 06/28/21 07:54 AM
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"Experts say second shot of Moderna is 'as good as' Pfizer when mixing with AZ"https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...th-az-1.5471400"In clinical trials, Moderna showed 94.1 per cent efficacy in preventing COVID-19 two weeks after a second dose, comparable to Pfizer's 95 per cent. Both trials saw zero hospitalizations and deaths in those who did get COVID-19 after being vaccinated." Though, that's likely with Moderna + Moderna vs Pfizer + Pfizer, and not my scenario of AZ + ___ ... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...ccine-1.5445347Moderna for me next week. Delta variant is here....not going to wait.
My only concern is whether other countries will accept mixing as "proper" full vaccination. Given government and science rarely aligns; I'm just thinking of the long game when it's ok to travel - and we find out our vaccine cards are invalid (by other countries we want to visit) because we mixed; but then we don't have any means of re-doing a "proper" full vaccination again (cuz by then only boosters will be offered).
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#10081686 - 06/29/21 08:07 AM
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It matters to me cause it's going into my body.
like John Mayer says, your body is a wonderland.
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#10083949 - 07/02/21 09:01 AM
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felt like I did a hard day of manual labour...
how would you know what that feels like?
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#10085004 - 07/05/21 09:08 PM
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BroKe
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Got my shot. Pfizer. Sore arm for now.
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#10085042 - 07/06/21 12:39 AM
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Had my first AZ back in May, getting my second which will be Moderna tomorrow through the vacination clinic at work. Wednesday I will be booking a 2 week vacation the Mexico in August.
Wifes ER barely has any covid patients these days. With the bars and restaurant being open, lots of drunks though. OD's and mental health is still really really high.
The Skyway in St Kitts was closed for 8hrs last night because of a jumper. Once the cops talked him down, the wife had him as a patient.
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#10085052 - 07/06/21 04:57 AM
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Damn, share more of these mental health stories. Those are always intriguing.
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#10086843 - 07/08/21 08:46 PM
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apparently it's like 80% of our remaining cases loool, I think that's the delta. Not the one I the article. Oh well what can you do. Is what it is. I've done my part. That's all I need to worry about.
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#10086981 - 07/09/21 08:57 AM
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#10090985 - 07/15/21 10:19 PM
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BroKe
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Whichever excuses they used to close down restaurants and in-person services for the last couple of months, I think it needed.
New daily cases for yesterday US-36,000 UK-42,000 Russia - 24,000 Indonesia -54,000 Canada -384
Agreed. I dunno how people can be in denile still just cause they can't have their way.
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#10091088 - 07/16/21 06:54 AM
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Whichever excuses they used to close down restaurants and in-person services for the last couple of months, I think it needed.
New daily cases for yesterday US-36,000 UK-42,000 Russia - 24,000 Indonesia -54,000 Canada -384
the Gov went WAY overboard. the media only added fuel to the fire. mental health out the window, ppl's lives rekt esp small biz owners. if someone got sick FROM a location then sure shut her down. but every single place i've been to over the last year or more, person spoken to visited there or working there...nobody sick from it. docs same opinion. i can understand 50% capacity when numbers were bad but over that it does fuck all.
lockdown shit happened as sadly ppl can't follow basic rules like mask/distance/hands in certain areas of the city which just flared shit up...shocker we all know most areas lol. not to mention in the winter months it'll be more common anyways and won't go away for awhile even with vax. i am glad the vax seems to be working though which is great, and i feel for our heathcare workers who have to deal with the virus itself and now the fallout. meanwhile the rich get richer and us everyday folks bent over going fwd now with cost of living.
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#10091571 - 07/17/21 10:31 AM
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Indoor dining available but I don't feel comfortable doing that especially when my kids can't get the vaccine.
Will be happy to see friends visit with masks on outdoors, thats about it for us.
What are you guys' work situation like? I work downtown and some companies are allowing staff back in on a volunteer basis. (people who live in shoebox condos seems to be the ones who don't mind going in from what i hear)
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#10091652 - 07/17/21 08:42 PM
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Indoor dining available but I don't feel comfortable doing that especially when my kids can't get the vaccine.
Will be happy to see friends visit with masks on outdoors, thats about it for us.
What are you guys' work situation like? I work downtown and some companies are allowing staff back in on a volunteer basis. (people who live in shoebox condos seems to be the ones who don't mind going in from what i hear)
dude you've let the media fear mongering get to you and fam lol...
but do whatever you feel is best/safest for you and them of course.
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#10091671 - 07/17/21 11:05 PM
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Everyone's risk level is different. Nothing wrong with taking precaution. Rather be on lockdown than have another outbreak. Good thing our vaccination level is decent or we'd be like the states right now. Knowing that these shots aren't 100% either, it's better to take precaution than go back to whatever you think normal should be. I'm definitely not eating inside any restaurants for a while.
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#10091742 - 07/18/21 02:06 PM
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The only issue, and it's a non issue in the GTA are the non vaccinated people.
Can you get covid after being double vaxed? Yes you can, you can also transmit and infect. The part no one talks about is that effect/sickness is equivalent of a light cold....so at this point even if you get covid after being double vaxed is really just a matter of time and irrelevant. Those that are not vaccinated are at risk for as new variants are more contagious and hospitalization.
I am tired of this shit. We've done what we can, we will need booster shots as the half life of the vaccines seems to be less than a year, but other than that this lockdown nonsense needs to end. Let people make their own decisions. If you are paranoid, stay home, otherwise get on with your life.
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#10091762 - 07/18/21 04:27 PM
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Correct. Is what it is. Let ppl make their own decisions.No point in shameing ppl taking precaution just cause you can't take it anymore. Tired of people bitching about it.
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#10091997 - 07/19/21 10:58 AM
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No, athletes are not required to be vaccinated. Many 3rd world countries, they don't even have supplies to get 1% of the population vaccinated.
The Japanese government has been far behind with COVID control since day 1. Beside China, until recently their daily positive cases were among the highest in Asia. I think averaged 1,000-1,500 everyday. now 3,000+
Now Asian countries with nearly 0 cases are recording thousands. Indonesia - 50,000 Malaysia - 12,000 Vietnam - 5,000 S.Korea - 1,500
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#10118769 - 09/04/21 09:09 PM
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I've seriously lost track of how bad covid is, number-wise and country-wise ...
Then I read ONTARIO (not Canada) is projecting 4000-9000 DAILY INFECTIONS in the 4th wave, in October ... Holy fuck. (500 if another lockdown) ...
Yes, September expected to be worse due to return to school, return to office ...
At one point in the summer we just dropped below 100/day, and now we're heading back up to 1000/day ...
Picked up mask lanyards for the 2 yr old ... really helps with the overall experience. She's the pink chicken, I'm the purple penguin (I've since picked up some plain black ones )
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#10118791 - 09/05/21 05:35 AM
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#10119116 - 09/06/21 10:07 AM
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Wife and I just got back from Mexico and Pearson is a shit show. Once the plan lands, they hold you on it until the lines lessen in arrivals. Then its several long lines to get to the kiosks to print the declaration, another long line to speak to customs and finally a long wait for our luggage.
What I thought was really ironic, the wear a mask, stay safe, get vaccinated signs everywhere, when the place was packed like sardine, none of the machines were being sanitized and half the CBSA staff didnt even have a mask on lol. I was more afraid of getting COVID in there then in the 3rd world country I just came back from.
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#10119820 - 09/07/21 02:18 PM
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Wife and I just got back from Mexico and Pearson is a shit show. Once the plan lands, they hold you on it until the lines lessen in arrivals. Then its several long lines to get to the kiosks to print the declaration, another long line to speak to customs and finally a long wait for our luggage.
What I thought was really ironic, the wear a mask, stay safe, get vaccinated signs everywhere, when the place was packed like sardine, none of the machines were being sanitized and half the CBSA staff didnt even have a mask on lol. I was more afraid of getting COVID in there then in the 3rd world country I just came back from.
can you list everything you had to do specifically in order to travel? i'm not scared to travel, hell i've been staring covid in the face ever since it started and because i never took vacation i have a shit load of it that they are making me take, so the woman and I are wanting to go.
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#10120051 - 09/07/21 06:14 PM
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Wife and I just got back from Mexico and Pearson is a shit show. Once the plan lands, they hold you on it until the lines lessen in arrivals. Then its several long lines to get to the kiosks to print the declaration, another long line to speak to customs and finally a long wait for our luggage.
What I thought was really ironic, the wear a mask, stay safe, get vaccinated signs everywhere, when the place was packed like sardine, none of the machines were being sanitized and half the CBSA staff didnt even have a mask on lol. I was more afraid of getting COVID in there then in the 3rd world country I just came back from. can you list everything you had to do specifically in order to travel? i'm not scared to travel, hell i've been staring covid in the face ever since it started and because i never took vacation i have a shit load of it that they are making me take, so the woman and I are wanting to go.
-If you're fully vaccinated, which I assume working in a hospital you are, you can freely return to Canada and not have to quarantine or self-isolate. -You have to get a COVID test where ever you are 72hours prior to returning home. PCR test only and most places you will have to pay for it. $150 USD in Mexico. -There is an app called ArriveCAN where you enter your travel details and vaccine info into. It generates a report the CBSA can see and will ask to see the receipt that you completed it. -CBSA will also ask to see the negative COVID test results, a PDF copy in my email for example.
Different countries have different requirements for travelers. Mexico had none lol. There entry VISA is online and I had to fill out a basic COVID questionaiir and submit it prior to arrival. The resort we were at took it very seriously. Every single employee inside and out had a mask on, they were constantly cleaning and there was hand sanitizer everywhere. Same rules as Canada for guests, masks on when in common areas, social distance, etc.
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#10120200 - 09/08/21 05:48 AM
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Wife and I just got back from Mexico and Pearson is a shit show. Once the plan lands, they hold you on it until the lines lessen in arrivals. Then its several long lines to get to the kiosks to print the declaration, another long line to speak to customs and finally a long wait for our luggage.
What I thought was really ironic, the wear a mask, stay safe, get vaccinated signs everywhere, when the place was packed like sardine, none of the machines were being sanitized and half the CBSA staff didnt even have a mask on lol. I was more afraid of getting COVID in there then in the 3rd world country I just came back from. can you list everything you had to do specifically in order to travel? i'm not scared to travel, hell i've been staring covid in the face ever since it started and because i never took vacation i have a shit load of it that they are making me take, so the woman and I are wanting to go. -If you're fully vaccinated, which I assume working in a hospital you are, you can freely return to Canada and not have to quarantine or self-isolate. -You have to get a COVID test where ever you are 72hours prior to returning home. PCR test only and most places you will have to pay for it. $150 USD in Mexico. -There is an app called ArriveCAN where you enter your travel details and vaccine info into. It generates a report the CBSA can see and will ask to see the receipt that you completed it. -CBSA will also ask to see the negative COVID test results, a PDF copy in my email for example. Different countries have different requirements for travelers. Mexico had none lol. There entry VISA is online and I had to fill out a basic COVID questionaiir and submit it prior to arrival. The resort we were at took it very seriously. Every single employee inside and out had a mask on, they were constantly cleaning and there was hand sanitizer everywhere. Same rules as Canada for guests, masks on when in common areas, social distance, etc.
Any cartel murder sightings? Record year in murders so far.
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#10120911 - 09/09/21 06:47 AM
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<Awaits CSI Titty post of 'I went cheap and all I got was this stupid covid'>
the choice is between that and the myan riveria in mexico but it's like $1900 and i kinda refuse to pay 2k for mexico lol
In other news, I made the trek yesterday to the office in Lib Village ... - Fuck, the traffic man ... - $14 GreenP parking - So many hotties in short shorts walking about - Office was just empty as fuck. Current capacity of the office is like 50 people? Yesterday they topped out at 25 bodies, the most they've ever seen - It was actually nice to get out, though the 'hoteling desk' concept is odd - not alot of amenities, it's BYO everything except monitor. - Shit ton of apps/checks you gotta do - check in app to make sure there's 'space', check in again when you sign in, and answer covid questionnaire ... I failed twice cuz I clicked too fast - Actually MORE productivity in the office (time just slowed...) due to less distractions (other monitors, stocks, kids, facebook, etc.)
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#10122172 - 09/11/21 11:27 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The media needs to put more focus on hospitalization numbers rather than infection count if they want to show the sheeple that vaccines are working. People are getting fed up and lamenting vaccines aren't working because case counts are going back up.
Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot.
It's like driving with a seat belt and smoking with kids in the back of the car - people bitched about government overstepping their boundaries of what you can / can't do instead their own car ("private domain" as an argument) -- but there's scientific data that doing both of these is bad - so it's just another rule to curb stupidity because people want their freedom more than go with common sense which isn't so common any more.
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#10122272 - 09/11/21 08:23 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The media needs to put more focus on hospitalization numbers rather than infection count if they want to show the sheeple that vaccines are working. People are getting fed up and lamenting vaccines aren't working because case counts are going back up. Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot. It's like driving with a seat belt and smoking with kids in the back of the car - people bitched about government overstepping their boundaries of what you can / can't do instead their own car ("private domain" as an argument) -- but there's scientific data that doing both of these is bad - so it's just another rule to curb stupidity because people want their freedom more than go with common sense which isn't so common any more.
Wifes ICU went from full at 24 or so a few weeks back to 2-3. Most of the COVID patients she sees now in her ER are not sick enough to admit. Most of her positive cases these days are younger people, but even those are rare. The Uni and local college here in Niagara have mandated that the students need to be vaccinated to live on campus and attend in person.
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#10122410 - 09/12/21 12:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The media needs to put more focus on hospitalization numbers rather than infection count if they want to show the sheeple that vaccines are working. People are getting fed up and lamenting vaccines aren't working because case counts are going back up. Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot. It's like driving with a seat belt and smoking with kids in the back of the car - people bitched about government overstepping their boundaries of what you can / can't do instead their own car ("private domain" as an argument) -- but there's scientific data that doing both of these is bad - so it's just another rule to curb stupidity because people want their freedom more than go with common sense which isn't so common any more. Wifes ICU went from full at 24 or so a few weeks back to 2-3. Most of the COVID patients she sees now in her ER are not sick enough to admit. Most of her positive cases these days are younger people, but even those are rare. The Uni and local college here in Niagara have mandated that the students need to be vaccinated to live on campus and attend in person.
That's encouraging. Hopefully this means she's not super swamped at work all the time any more.
All the front line health workers have it really tough.
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#10122836 - 09/13/21 02:07 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The media needs to put more focus on hospitalization numbers rather than infection count if they want to show the sheeple that vaccines are working. People are getting fed up and lamenting vaccines aren't working because case counts are going back up. Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot. It's like driving with a seat belt and smoking with kids in the back of the car - people bitched about government overstepping their boundaries of what you can / can't do instead their own car ("private domain" as an argument) -- but there's scientific data that doing both of these is bad - so it's just another rule to curb stupidity because people want their freedom more than go with common sense which isn't so common any more.
hell ever since this pandemic started i've been staring it in the face and have been lucky to not catch it. i'll take my chances with travelling.
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#10125980 - 09/18/21 02:08 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10126079 - 09/18/21 08:15 PM
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They were opened for the summer. What happened?
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#10126345 - 09/19/21 03:52 PM
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Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot.
This is a slippery slope. How about other life-style choices? Drinking? Smoking? Drugs? Profession? Diet? Exercise?
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#10127965 - 09/21/21 09:55 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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This Proof of Vaccination is so fucked ...
- You have to show both receipts for Dose 1 AND Dose 2? - We have to print/show PDF for now, then wait a month for the app with QR Code?
There's some website now that apparently creates a QR Code for you, but I'm not sure if that's compatible with the one coming out in a month, etc....
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#10128373 - 09/22/21 02:32 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Have that already.
I need to do it again since I only did that to my Dose 2. i.e. looks like you have to show both Dose 1 and Dose 2.
I've also added the wife's QR code onto my phone, so we can just scan 1 phone etc.
I don't get or know what the process is ... i.e. wtf the QR code does .... and this is only a stop-gap; in a month the official app will be released. So fucking confusing.
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#10130631 - 09/25/21 05:28 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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This Proof of Vaccination is so fucked ... - You have to show both receipts for Dose 1 AND Dose 2? - We have to print/show PDF for now, then wait a month for the app with QR Code? There's some website now that apparently creates a QR Code for you, but I'm not sure if that's compatible with the one coming out in a month, etc....
Just show your second dose card and done.
Meanwhile did you know that queen's park is the only place in ontario that requires folks to be fully vaccinated OR test negative on the PCR test? Meanwhile everywhere else in ontario for non-essential trips, you have to be fully vaccinated.
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#10130686 - 09/25/21 11:57 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qE8DH4vGvU
a few tips on traveling to jamaica right now
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#10132323 - 09/28/21 11:47 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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There will be an app coming which will make it more difficult to fake for stupid people
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#10137136 - 10/06/21 05:11 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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PSA for the parents, East York general does a mouth swab covid test for kids, took my daughter yesterday, in and out in 7 minutes without the hysteria of going up her nose like they did at Markham Stouffville. Worth sitting in traffic for it.
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#10144743 - 10/19/21 01:14 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I do one covid case. every 2 weeks now (if even.)
Wow, that's actually good to hear.
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#10144792 - 10/19/21 02:15 PM
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Interesting. Which airline?
westjet
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#10144871 - 10/19/21 03:24 PM
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I do one covid case. every 2 weeks now (if even.)
makes you wonder why we are still in a pandemic.
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#10144925 - 10/19/21 04:37 PM
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I do one covid case. every 2 weeks now (if even.)
makes you wonder why we are still in a pandemic. The media lol. Wifes ICU has 1 covid patient, but they might be taking a few from out west.
Whats really funny to me is people from region to region. I live in Niagara but work in Hamilton. The Hammer is full of anti-vaxxers and restaurants that would rather go out of business then ask for the passport or proof. Niagara everyone does whats asked of them, restaurants are staying open, etc.
In other new, wife is BAO'ing her hospital for now and taking a job in Northern Manitoba for the Feds working on a First Nations community. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, all expenses paid, including the 3 days that want her to quarantine before she goes back.
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#10147836 - 10/25/21 12:59 PM
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Eh, went to Florida with the whole fam in August. Used CVS / Walgreens loophole for free PCR. Pain the in the ass, but was worth it!
Kids loved it. (2 years of no traveling was enough for us)
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#10157865 - 11/10/21 07:09 PM
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How is covid on the ground floor treating you?
"feels" like we are over it (famous last words?)
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#10158353 - 11/11/21 02:27 PM
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Just remember, 2 more weeks to flatten the curve!
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#10158414 - 11/11/21 03:43 PM
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Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot. This is a slippery slope. How about other life-style choices? Drinking? Smoking? Drugs? Profession? Diet? Exercise?
Yeah - similar response when having this topic for discussion with my relatives (who are in the medical profession).
I guess my thinking is more from the perspective that if you're not being responsible for your own well-being (when you're fully capable of doing so) then why should the system focus resources on keeping you alive when there are those that are caught in an unfortunate situation of catching covid but ends up stuck in the line waiting because some frat boy was partying it up and caught it in a super spreader event.
The use cases you mentioned are kind of like that with life insurance premiums already, no? (Smokers probably have to pay more than non-smoker; people with crappy physical test results pay more, etc.)
Of course, I haven't seen what the front line guys have seen so my opinion is probably not valid -- but given you guys work so hard to save lives, I'd hope the efforts would be more worth it towards those that deserve it?
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#10158418 - 11/11/21 03:48 PM
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Toddler came back from preschool and fucked us all up ...
Toddler's dripping/clogged nose, coughing like mad, fever here 'n there. Wife sore throat, coughing, and achy all over Grandma's sore throat Little brother's coughing a tad and low low fever Me with sore throat and achy all over..
Toddler + Wife + Grandma all took at-home covid tests, negative. Wife did a covid test, also negative.
Meanwhile I'm the idiot wearing a mask at home, hoping not to get more sick, and trying not to get the baby sick...
ah the stuff kids bring home's deadly - when my daughter was in pre-school she damn near killed my wife, her mom and her siblings. i was the last man standing. kids are walking petrie dishes.
you're not an idiot for being the only one wearing a mask - i'd consider it as self preservation - can't watch the kid if you're down for the count too. it's just that in your house covid's not the thing that's gonna get you but the flu.
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#10158772 - 11/12/21 10:35 AM
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Having said that, if the anti-vaxxers choose not to take one because of "freedom" then they should be put on a lower priority list for getting a hospital bed compared to those with real illnesses that are beyond their control (those waiting for chemo, some form of life saving operation, etc.) - because they shouldn't even need to get as sick as they should (and waste hospital space) had they've gotten their shot. This is a slippery slope. How about other life-style choices? Drinking? Smoking? Drugs? Profession? Diet? Exercise? Yeah - similar response when having this topic for discussion with my relatives (who are in the medical profession). I guess my thinking is more from the perspective that if you're not being responsible for your own well-being (when you're fully capable of doing so) then why should the system focus resources on keeping you alive when there are those that are caught in an unfortunate situation of catching covid but ends up stuck in the line waiting because some frat boy was partying it up and caught it in a super spreader event. The use cases you mentioned are kind of like that with life insurance premiums already, no? (Smokers probably have to pay more than non-smoker; people with crappy physical test results pay more, etc.) Of course, I haven't seen what the front line guys have seen so my opinion is probably not valid -- but given you guys work so hard to save lives, I'd hope the efforts would be more worth it towards those that deserve it?
I definitely understand your POV. And just to preface, I think the topic right now is very divisive, which offers opportunity for healthy debate. Gonna be a long post cause I've thought a lot about this and engaged in lots of discussion. CN - everyone should have right to choose.
I'm curious if anyone has 100% faith in the vaccine and its efficacy; as in, no doubts or questions, whatsoever. If that's the case, I'm happy for you. To be that certain of something is blissful. I personally have doubts with this (Covid-19) vaccine. I have a coworkers who's healthy teenage son was practically disabled temporarily due to the Brazil variant (still recovering after months). I also have another coworker who's dear friend (also healthy) passed away after taking the vaccine. I'm also generally distrusting of the media nowadays (agenda driven, and not even trying to hide it). To combat this, I try to keep myself informed from both sides of an argument, which usually leaves me spinning my wheels, with no truths, and a lot of frustration.
I think for the majority of the population, there is some level of hesitation or doubt regarding the vaccine. With that in mind, we each have to weigh the pros and cons of our personal choice and our situation. Those who have taken the shot are risking any associated side effects from the various vaccines, some documented, and some which may not show up until years from now. Those who have abstained from the vaccine are risking the symptoms of Covid-19, and are also risking being outcast from society as vaccination status becomes a social currency. This last part is quite concerning to me as it impedes basic human right to choose, a right that we should all be entitled to. On top of this, general distrust of government (and of the vaccine) falls along certain demographic lines, which means that groups that are already marginalize are more likely to be fearful of the vaccine, and are subsequently set further back for not taking it.
I also find it at least worthy of contemplation that doctors, nurses, medics, and other various front line workers, who one would assume would have the best ground level perspective on the affects of Covid-19, have chosen to stand-up against a vaccine mandate at the risk of losing their jobs. Surely amongst that group are some conspiracy theory nuts, but that can't possibly account for such large numbers (which I think comes in around 10% of these groups of professionals).
At the end of it, I believe everyone should be allowed to make the choice on whether or not to get the vaccine, or which vaccine to get, or whether or not to take the booster shot, or whether or not to vaccinate their kids. After all, the research that I'm seeing shows that the affects of the vaccine works on the person taking it, and that it shouldn't matter if the person next to you has taken it. There are no hard stats to show that the vaccinated are any less capable of carrying and transmitting the virus. And currently, at least in Ontario, there is no noticeable strain on the health care system (specifically ICU beds) relating to Covid-19. There is however, (at least anecdotal) evidence to show that some of these systems or services are being impacted by vaccine mandates (and the fall-out from workers refusing to comply and being sent home/suspended/fired from work). So I have to ask, would you rather have a un-vaccinated firefighter come rescue you from a burning building, or you rather take a pass and let the fire do its thing?
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#10158880 - 11/12/21 12:28 PM
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Well, all things considered, as this is a car forum ... I'm happy for the support of at least 1 non-retarded parent re: wearing mask at home...
I'm being ostracized by my own family now with this shit, double-standards... - Oh, you expect the SICK to wear one? How the hell you expect a TODDLER to wear one? (No, I'm not, I expect the ADULTS to) - Oh, you expect the SICK to wear one? We're all SICK, so we can all be sick together. YOU are NOT SICK, so therefore YOU wear one - Oh, I recovered from whatever virus, I don't need to wear one, I'm protected now - Oh, now you're making us all feel bad for not wearing one
Meanwhile, here I am, wearing a mask (too late anyway, as I STILL have a sore throat for over a week) ...
Did covid test with the toddler, both negative, so there's that.
re: 'Preference of an unvaxx'd firefighter come save my ass vs not getting saved. That's no the option though, amirite? There's no checkbox, there's no vote. It's not up for public opinion -- there's a mandate, at either the corporation or service level, to have it across the board.
And put it this way ... Would you prefer to have an ENTIRE FIREFIGHTER STATION wiped out due to covid temporarily for an entire neighbourhood, thereby increasing response time, or have that 1 firefighter go on unpaid leave/terminated until they get vaxxed? That's another perspective.
Just heard a story from a parent at work.... - Group of 12 year old girls, 1 of them is unvaxxed. Seems the girl is not invited to sleepovers/etc cuz well, unvaxxed, as dictated by the parents. Poor girl is lying about her vax status just to be included, and a friend of hers knows she's lying.....
ah the stuff kids bring home's deadly - when my daughter was in pre-school she damn near killed my wife, her mom and her siblings. i was the last man standing. kids are walking petrie dishes.
you're not an idiot for being the only one wearing a mask - i'd consider it as self preservation - can't watch the kid if you're down for the count too. it's just that in your house covid's not the thing that's gonna get you but the flu.
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#10158932 - 11/12/21 01:20 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I'm with you on the mask wearing., even at home, even with family, if the situation dictates. There obviously needs to be some common sense with that too, like you can't wear the same mask all day. It'll just get nasty with all kinda germs. I wear one a lot of the time. It's partially for me, but mainly for other people. If I sneeze or cough, or even if I don't, I don't want others to feel anxious if they have to be around me.
Well, all things considered, as this is a car forum ... I'm happy for the support of at least 1 non-retarded parent re: wearing mask at home... I'm being ostracized by my own family now with this shit, double-standards... - Oh, you expect the SICK to wear one? How the hell you expect a TODDLER to wear one? (No, I'm not, I expect the ADULTS to) - Oh, you expect the SICK to wear one? We're all SICK, so we can all be sick together. YOU are NOT SICK, so therefore YOU wear one - Oh, I recovered from whatever virus, I don't need to wear one, I'm protected now - Oh, now you're making us all feel bad for not wearing one Meanwhile, here I am, wearing a mask (too late anyway, as I STILL have a sore throat for over a week) ... Did covid test with the toddler, both negative, so there's that. re: 'Preference of an unvaxx'd firefighter come save my ass vs not getting saved. That's no the option though, amirite? There's no checkbox, there's no vote. It's not up for public opinion -- there's a mandate, at either the corporation or service level, to have it across the board. And put it this way ... Would you prefer to have an ENTIRE FIREFIGHTER STATION wiped out due to covid temporarily for an entire neighbourhood, thereby increasing response time, or have that 1 firefighter go on unpaid leave/terminated until they get vaxxed? That's another perspective. Just heard a story from a parent at work.... - Group of 12 year old girls, 1 of them is unvaxxed. Seems the girl is not invited to sleepovers/etc cuz well, unvaxxed, as dictated by the parents. Poor girl is lying about her vax status just to be included, and a friend of hers knows she's lying..... ah the stuff kids bring home's deadly - when my daughter was in pre-school she damn near killed my wife, her mom and her siblings. i was the last man standing. kids are walking petrie dishes.
you're not an idiot for being the only one wearing a mask - i'd consider it as self preservation - can't watch the kid if you're down for the count too. it's just that in your house covid's not the thing that's gonna get you but the flu.
I don't think the current stats support that an entire firehall would go down, but I do understand your perspective/concerns on that. In the beginning of the pandemic, there were a lot of situations where people were sent home to self-isolate, which caused shortages of services in many sectors. Now, outbreaks would have to occur to shut down a station for Covid-19 reasons. And in fact, a station/truck operates based on the minimum number of members working in the station. If they run below that number for whatever reason, that station gets shut down for the day and sends out all their members to neighbouring stations. (I know this because I have family with Toronto Fire). So shutting down stations is a possible concern, but I think the below article is more concerning, where able-bodied workers are vacant from their post because of a mandate they have taken issue with.
NYC Firefighters call out sick
The daily case counts are showing closer to equal number of vaccinated vs unvaccinated coming in as Covid-19 positive. I'm not suggesting that the actual rate of reported infections are equal among the two groups, considering we're looking at about 85% of the population being double vaccinated, but clearly the vaccinated are not immune to carry or transmit, or be affected to the point where they need to get tested and subsequently counted into the daily stats.
And to your comment about if there was a checkbox, I would assume you would select to have a vaccinated firefighter save you. What is your thought behind that? Is your belief that they are less likely to carry the virus? less likely the spread the virus? that they've served their civic duty by getting the vaccine? And why shouldn't we public debate a mandate? I think anytime we mandate things against people's will, there should probably be some discussion. Just because someone decides it should be policy, it shouldn't be questioned or at least discussed?
I totally feel horrible for the kids. I think your example there is a perfect illustration of how this whole polarized approach on the issue will segregate society. It'll end up in lots of mental health issues for sure.
To me, to force vaccination right now, and lets not pretend it's a choice, is an imposition of the ideology of one group upon another. It's discrimination, and it reeks.
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#10159075 - 11/12/21 05:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I'm curious if anyone has 100% faith in the vaccine and its efficacy; as in, no doubts or questions, whatsoever. If that's the case, I'm happy for you. To be that certain of something is blissful. I personally have doubts with this (Covid-19) vaccine. I have a coworkers who's healthy teenage son was practically disabled temporarily due to the Brazil variant (still recovering after months). I also have another coworker who's dear friend (also healthy) passed away after taking the vaccine. I'm also generally distrusting of the media nowadays (agenda driven, and not even trying to hide it). To combat this, I try to keep myself informed from both sides of an argument, which usually leaves me spinning my wheels, with no truths, and a lot of frustration.
As much as I hate to say it - but in a way, my decision to vaccinate was taken with a sliver of Trump's reference to this (originally) as the "super flu" - but with a huge caveat - so here was my thought process:
1) covid, like influenza, is a virus (but this is a new type / strain of virus) - the only way to fight it off is with a vaccine that teaches your body how to fight it off before you get it.
2) can you fight off a flu without shots? sure, if you've taken enough flu shots over your life time and have enough "coverage" of all the major strains out there.
3) are you bulletproof from ever catching the flu? god no, we don't have enough different types of flu shots to cover all permutations of strains - that's why it will take us down once in a while; but our chances of survival has increased because of flu shots.
4) with covid, this is brand new - so in my mind, my body hasn't learned how to fight this off yet so getting the vaccine was to educate my body to "practice" fighting it.
i'm sorry to hear about your coworkers' story - esp. the one about dying after the vaccine; we go in (with good faith) that a medicine would help us, but rather it gave the opposite effect - i suppose anyone closely related to this event would be hesitant.
would i ever be the first to get in line for a vaccine? nope - i always wait for enough stats to help me make my decision; need to establish a high probability the vaccine / treatment / medicine of doing more good than harm. (hell I don't even update my phone when apple pushes an update - i wait a few weeks / months in case people freak out about it)
I think for the majority of the population, there is some level of hesitation or doubt regarding the vaccine. With that in mind, we each have to weigh the pros and cons of our personal choice and our situation. Those who have taken the shot are risking any associated side effects from the various vaccines, some documented, and some which may not show up until years from now. Those who have abstained from the vaccine are risking the symptoms of Covid-19, and are also risking being outcast from society as vaccination status becomes a social currency. This last part is quite concerning to me as it impedes basic human right to choose, a right that we should all be entitled to. On top of this, general distrust of government (and of the vaccine) falls along certain demographic lines, which means that groups that are already marginalize are more likely to be fearful of the vaccine, and are subsequently set further back for not taking it.
I also find it at least worthy of contemplation that doctors, nurses, medics, and other various front line workers, who one would assume would have the best ground level perspective on the affects of Covid-19, have chosen to stand-up against a vaccine mandate at the risk of losing their jobs. Surely amongst that group are some conspiracy theory nuts, but that can't possibly account for such large numbers (which I think comes in around 10% of these groups of professionals).
At the end of it, I believe everyone should be allowed to make the choice on whether or not to get the vaccine, or which vaccine to get, or whether or not to take the booster shot, or whether or not to vaccinate their kids. After all, the research that I'm seeing shows that the affects of the vaccine works on the person taking it, and that it shouldn't matter if the person next to you has taken it. There are no hard stats to show that the vaccinated are any less capable of carrying and transmitting the virus. And currently, at least in Ontario, there is no noticeable strain on the health care system (specifically ICU beds) relating to Covid-19. There is however, (at least anecdotal) evidence to show that some of these systems or services are being impacted by vaccine mandates (and the fall-out from workers refusing to comply and being sent home/suspended/fired from work). So I have to ask, would you rather have a un-vaccinated firefighter come rescue you from a burning building, or you rather take a pass and let the fire do its thing?
Freedom of choice is definitely a privilege we have in Canada - while I respect the choice of others; I just hope they aren't making it for the sake of just opposing a government approach (rather than believing in the science) or follow some form of misinformation to do so; that would lead them to an even worse slippery slope.
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#10159143 - 11/12/21 10:58 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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BroKe
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Fuck your choice. Respectfully
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#10159171 - 11/13/21 08:03 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Risky Business
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TIL: furball wears a mask at home.
My life feels complete.
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#10161381 - 11/17/21 11:29 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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We do a Covid call maybe once every 2 weeks. It’s always an unvaccinated patient (actually no, one person was fully vaxed and had it.)
Its honestly much better.
EMRG isn’t packed with Covid, ICU has room too.
We haven’t had a Covid case (I mean me and my partner) in maybe 3 weeks now.
Just catching up. This is good to know.
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#10162151 - 11/19/21 05:45 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Canada is lifting PCR test for vaccinated Canadians retuning from short trips less than 72hours. Not sure when it comes to effect. If soon, I might go down to Miami next week for a couple of days.
I really can't wait for that to happen. Parts pricing in Canada needs to GTFO.
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#10164093 - 11/23/21 08:33 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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So the parents in my daughter's JK class are ECSTATIC about vaccines being available for their soon to be 5 year olds.
I mean, wtf, are you serious? Is everyone here going to rush out and vaccinate their children, what's CSI ON's take on this?
I am keeping an open mind on this, I simply don't see the point. I don't even think there have been any deaths of kids without comorbidities from covid. The only questions to answer that I don't have clear information on are long term side effects of contracting covid (assuming they already didn't have it, although I think they probably have) vs long term side effects of the vaccines that we know nothing about?
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#10164108 - 11/23/21 08:54 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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It's that warm fuzzy feeling they get, so they can 'bypass' any social-distancing/logical norms you should do in these new times...
With the number of schools going into closure due to 'outbreaks', this is nuts ...
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#10164111 - 11/23/21 08:55 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Denis Si
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So whats the deal with 5-11? I dont know what to think with this one....
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#10164114 - 11/23/21 09:01 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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It's that warm fuzzy feeling they get, so they can 'bypass' any social-distancing/logical norms you should do in these new times... With the number of schools going into closure due to 'outbreaks', this is nuts ...
One of the parents immediately said "they can finally travel"
Yea, that's sound reasoning to vaccinate a 4 year old in a couple months. I am actually getting pretty fucking angry about it, because I know I will be looked at as the scum for actually wanting to hold off.
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#10164156 - 11/23/21 10:05 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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If vaccines helped stop the spread, sure, but since they don't....
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#10164494 - 11/24/21 06:37 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Denis Si
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They will force it one way or another. Either through sports activities, travel requirements or i guess even eating out.... just wonder when will that come. Spring 2022? By march break?
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#10164522 - 11/24/21 08:16 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Studies I read don't quantify the benefit
"you are less likely to spread" "lower chance of spread"
What does this mean? Do we use our imagination to determine metrics? Point me to the results, I am keeping an open mind. Spread aside, what's the cost vs. benefit vaccinating young children who are not at risk?
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#10164596 - 11/24/21 10:05 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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So, are we discussing semantics then?
"less likely", "lower chance" does indeed indicate whatever study is mentioned "works" ....
Challenge then is, is that "work" mean 1% decrease, 10%, 80%... is that what we're discussing?
benefit vaccinating young children who are not at risk?
Perhaps... a benefit to vaxxing the 5-11, is more on them NOT getting it and becoming super spreaders? (i.e. they typically don't get too sick, requiring hospitalization etc.)
[UPDATE] -- This story actually involves the latest African variant ..... In other news, obvi this has no stats, but is a (single) real-world scenario: - In HK, once you arrive, you're quarantined for 14 days. - Seems 1 individual was in the hotel wearing a mask with a 1-way valve, and infected another individual directly across the hallway ... - Doesn't appear they were locking lips and doing the dirty dirty (they mention cameras, and the fact the 1-way valve dude opened his door a few times, not wearing mask, wearing a 1-way valve, etc...)
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/heal...ish-valve-style
Studies I read don't quantify the benefit
"you are less likely to spread" "lower chance of spread"
What does this mean? Do we use our imagination to determine metrics? Point me to the results, I am keeping an open mind. Spread aside, what's the cost vs. benefit vaccinating young children who are not at risk?
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#10164605 - 11/24/21 10:16 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Here's the 'official' Pfizer test results of 5-11...
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-releas...topline-results
Glancing thru the Canadian NACI results here ... even though, TYPICALLY children aged 5-11 would get mild asymptomatic cases... those with underlying would get it worse yadda yadda yadda ...
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/phac-a...1-years-age.pdf
Efficacy: Preliminary efficacy data were limited to the evaluable efficacy population from Cohort 1 (individuals who did not have evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to dose 2; 1,305 randomized to receive the vaccine; 663 randomized to receive placebo). As of October 8, 2021 (data cut-off date for analysis), a total of 19 confirmed, symptomatic cases of COVID-19 were identified at least 7 days after dose 2 of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine or placebo in study participants 5-11 years of age. The estimated efficacy of the vaccine against symptomatic COVID-19 from 7 days after dose 2 was 90.7% (95% CI: 67.7 to 98.3%; 3 cases identified in the vaccine group and 16 cases in the placebo group).An analysis of efficacy by various subgroups (sex, race, and ethnicity, presence of comorbidities, and country of recruitment) resulted in point estimates of vaccine efficacy (all above 85%) that were similar to the overall estimate. However, many of the subgroup efficacy estimates were based on a small number of cases, resulting in large confidence intervals around these point estimates. The majority of confirmed cases in study participants were identified in August and September 2021, at a time when the Delta variant was the predominant circulating strain in the US and globally. However, no sequence analysis was reported on case isolates to determine whether they were caused by the Delta variant or another variant. None of the identified cases met the pre-defined criteria for a severe case of COVID-19, therefore the data did not include estimates of vaccine efficacy against severe outcomes such as hospitalization, MIS-C or death (
Edited by furball (11/24/21 10:22 AM)
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#10164769 - 11/24/21 02:59 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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4Three
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I would hope that all their testing is objective and in good faith. I admit that I'm not great at reading these technical studies, but it looks like we're talking about roughly 2000 kids in in this test group with ~1300 receiving the vaccine, and ~660 getting a placebo. From the entire group, they had 19 confirmed symptomatic cases; 3 of those in vaccinated members and 16 in the placebo (unvaccinated) group. So we're talking about ~1% of that group being symptomatic, and of that 1%, about we're looking at about 1:5 ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated. It would appear to support that vaccinated members of that group are less likely to have symptoms, but IMO, an overall 1% showing symptoms is a low risk.
I think it would be useful to know if the entire group was tested, to show how many were asymptomatic (no symptoms, but carrying, and possibly transmitting). At the onset of this pandemic, that was one of the most concerning issues, that people wouldn't be showing symptoms, and would unknowingly be passing this thing around. And my understanding is that having less symptoms does not equate to less chance of carrying/spreading (but I could be wrong, and please let me know if I am).
Personally, I can't help but be skeptical (link) about any large company. Not that I think they are overtly trying to be evil, but when there is so much pressure to create a solution, some corners might be cut, and as long as it falls within an acceptable case count, the business just moves forward. Isn't it the same reason why most of us would not think about buying a first model year car? We know there will be bugs. Maybe let all the bugs get worked out before we personally commit? I don't have any 5-11 year-olds, but if I did, I'd hold off for sure.
I respect everyone's personal stance, and Covid has affected everyone in dramatic and devastating ways. We all have to make the best choice for ourselves. I totally support people who are eager to get the vaccine, and also those who are hesitant.
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#10165344 - 11/26/21 08:57 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious
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#10165629 - 11/28/21 09:30 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10165630 - 11/28/21 09:31 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious
As did all of them.
We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.
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#10165681 - 11/28/21 02:24 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10165811 - 11/29/21 07:36 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontario-health-official-casts-doubt-on-whether-vaccination-requirements-will-ever-be-extended-to-children-aged-5-to-11-1.5681660
Here's my take on it... if not them, then why us? If it's mandated on us, then now that kids are accepted into the age range, it should be required for anyone who is eligible.
I can't stand the inconsistencies.
Last week we took our youngest to a bday party at a trampoline park. "Masks must be warn at all times in the park... unless actively using the trampolines."
So, if you're chilling walking or sitting, you need your mask... but if you're jumping around, breathing hard, next to each other... no need. And also, the ones in that environment are 95% children, who are mostly unvaccinated.
#Logic.
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#10165949 - 11/29/21 12:22 PM
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Well, the stock markets sure thought it serious ... Everything got fucked on Friday.
'Breakthrough Covid' was a serious thing just .. awhile back, i.e. getting Covid after being vaccinated. Now it's a regular scenario...
The most well-known one I'm aware of is Bryan Adams getting Covid twice AFTER being double-vaxxed...
GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious As did all of them. We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.
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#10166001 - 11/29/21 01:02 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Well, the stock markets sure thought it serious ... Everything got fucked on Friday. 'Breakthrough Covid' was a serious thing just .. awhile back, i.e. getting Covid after being vaccinated. Now it's a regular scenario... The most well-known one I'm aware of is Bryan Adams getting Covid twice AFTER being double-vaxxed... GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious As did all of them. We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.
What is your point? I don't think I follow.
If you don't have allergies/pre existing conditions get vaccinated (the age cut off should really be 40+ here), but whatever I am not going to split hairs, the data is out on covid impact on those under 40 in good health.
If you have issues or pre existing conditions where the vax may put you at risk for side effects or blood clots, roll the dice either way on vax or no vax. Should be discretionary.
Everything else is out of our control, variants, mutations, etc. Vaccinated and in good health, you've done your part, move on, we can't keep living like a bunch of handicapped idiots, it has been 2 years of this shit.
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#10177544 - 12/20/21 08:19 AM
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BroKe
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what a shit show to try and get a booster or rapid test kit. especially in york region. imma wait this one out.
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#10179215 - 12/23/21 08:57 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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why the rush? lol so stupid.
elderly yes ok, healthcare sure.
other than that, meh...same shit's it's been for 2.5yrs.
keep being safe about it and you're most likely going to be fine.
omi spreads easier but not even as bad as original. as usual news fucking spreading fear like crazy and the gov go back to their lockdown bullshit umbrella one-size fits all crap. idiots.
100% with you. I don't understand the rush either. I haven't gotten covid, so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing...
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#10179240 - 12/23/21 09:58 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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i'm not rushing to line up either but it would be nice to get one sooner than later. i don't understand the constant need for some people to make claims and shout their beliefs. tired of hearing shit like everyone's gonna get it eventually, its not that bad. blah blah blah. if you've gotten your shots, wear masks and social distance then that's all you can do. just keep it moving. anti lockdown people mixing in the the anti vax people at this point. all forms of entitlement. get real.
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#10179279 - 12/23/21 10:59 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzVoS-1TIWI
Data from Ontario on risk of boosters/mix and matching vaccines.
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#10179380 - 12/23/21 12:53 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/road-to-hell/
Guy sounds like some clout chaser. Stirring the pot to establish his name. Would take what he says with a grain of salt.
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#10180221 - 12/27/21 05:34 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Looks like this variant is nowhere near as serious as the past according to this doc and what he is seeing from Humber Valley hospital. Coincides with what a lot of other docs are saying in the states as well, this is basically a cold:
https://twitter.com/DrJacobsRad/status/1475094747513561090
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#10181987 - 12/29/21 09:39 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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daaamn.....not a good time to need an ambulance.
get better 355
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#10182728 - 12/31/21 10:02 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Well fuck, hope you're feeling better quick dude, and your whole fam isn't infected.
Technically we're under self-quarantine(?) - wife was in 'outside contact' with a confirmed case.
Yesterday was a whirlwind ... with 3 'clusters' that while not direct contact, could've/would've...
a) - FurBalletta goes out with Furballetta Jr in stroller for a 'girls stroller walk/chat' with 2 others (and their respective baby daughters) - 1 contact's partner CONFIRMED positive next morning via rapid test, 8 mth old daughter on/off fevers, contact herself had negative rapid test. - PCR test taken 2hrs after rapid test confirmed positive (mother, father, 8-mth old daughter.) Mother's triple-vaxxed (since Nov), father double. Kid still feverish.
- FurBalletta + FurBalletta Jr got PCR test yesterday, awaiting results... (Got denied in Hamilton in a 'healthcare workers-only' PCR walk-in, cuz apparently a) HAMILTON HCW's only, and b) walk-in full)
b) FurBalletta reeeeeeeally wanted to go visit some friends who drove up from US.... Well, thankfully it didn't work out, cuz that whole fam is confirmed positive via rapid test (except 1.) I asked if their dog is positive (no joke .... I didn't get an answer.) Apparently, they are ok to 'drive back into the US' because .... they have a 'quarantine plan'? Apparently they might also be considered essential workers as ... the couple both have scheduled/on-calls for baby deliveries (dual OBGYNs)
c) The 'hookup' the wife has re: PCR tests with 24-hr turnaround got 'put on hold' due to physician getting a 'sore throat' ... so based on current guidelines, she's considered 'positive' until her own PCR test comes back. (The physician was the one that did the PCR tests for a)...)
Update: I'm not even isolating from my kids. It is what it is.
If it's aerosol, there's no amount of distance that will keep everyone from getting it.
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#10182834 - 12/31/21 01:53 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10182841 - 12/31/21 02:17 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Got my booster yesterday, arm is a tad sore but that was it.
Wife is still working at a small community in Manitoba where literally every single person has covid. But initial shots and booster are all she does most days.
Shes home for two weeks now and worked a few shifts at her hospital. ICU is almost full, but only 2 covid, rest are elderly Influenza and other trauma types. ER is a shit show with everyone wanting to get tested and other non-emergency visits filling the place up and slowing it down. Wait times can be 4-10 hours.
355-Si... Off load delay for EMS at my wifes ER is 7-8 buses who wait for 3-5 hours.
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#10182867 - 12/31/21 02:48 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Spent the last few days at Sunnybrook Critical Care/ICU (visiting), it's pretty busy. ER was slowish when I was there.
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#10183983 - 01/03/22 12:25 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Unreal, this place is a fucking joke.
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#10184398 - 01/04/22 09:09 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Oh and:
https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/expl...on-12001862.htm
At a time when the world is gripped with the Omicron variant of COVID-19, a woman who recently gave birth in Israel has been diagnosed with flu and COVID-19 simultaneously, a condition which is being dubbed as the ‘flurona,’ media reports said.
According to experts, ‘flurona’ is not a new variant, but a case of double infection of the coronavirus and the influenza virus. The presence of both viruses could result in full range of severe symptoms including pneumonia, respiratory complications and myocarditis, which could lead to death if left untreated. Israeli health officials have warned of a “twindemic” that could lead to patients swarming the hospitals with flu and COVID-19.
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#10184600 - 01/04/22 11:02 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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When I read stuff like that, firstly, it's kinda funny (if you're not the one getting sick, because it just sounds hilarious, "flurona"), but it also makes me wonder, are humans not supposed to get sick? Yes, getting sick sucks, but isn't that just part of life? Then it made me wonder, has the world population been measurably affected by the pandemic?
I'll retract this quoted section below because I can't find data on global death rates that isn't a projection.
This site tells me no. Global death rate seems pretty consistent over the years. Wasn't COVID supposed to be decimating our population? I'm just surfing on my phone so if someone can find a better site that offers something different, please add it. Just kinda thinking out loud here. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/WLD/world/death-rateEdit: seems that previous link was a projection so that's not relevant. This one seems to be a Canadian stat for 2020, but also protection. https://www.statista.com/statistics/434353/death-rate-for-all-causes-in-canada/Best I could find was WHO estimate of excess mortality in 2020 of 3 million (actual 1.8 million reported). So we're talking about ~0.03% excess mortality.
So the next question is, how has the world been affected by the pandemic? Well socially people aren't able to gather like before. We can't travel like before. People's liberties and ability to earn has been reduced / removed. People are scared. People are angry and polarized. Hospitals do not appear overrun, we just live in fear that they may be overrun. (You can check hospital websites for their daily COVID patient numbers, and remember that the patient may not be there necessarily because of COVID).
This then begs the question, have our solutions worked? Vaccinated are still testing positive and some hospitalization (arguably reduced compared to unvaxxed). Places previously only admitting vaccine passports are now closed to them. Lockdown hasn't stopped anything, if it slowed anything at best. So all of it that we've done, what was the cost. Massive debts everywhere.
The talking heads say more boosters, higher compliance. Has it really been proven to work? I mean measurably work for society? Someone needs to change this course or we're just stuck on a hamster wheel.
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#10189421 - 01/11/22 08:57 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Thankfully schools are back.
Happy we have a bunch of solid parents in our community/school, one organized an in home class for 5 of our kids, hired a student teacher and tutor and the two work with the 5 kids and rotate from house to house every day. Been a blessing.
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#10190129 - 01/12/22 08:11 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-quebec-to-impose-tax-on-unvaccinated/
Quebec will impose a tax on those who aren’t vaccinated against COVID-19 to offset their disproportionate cost to the health care system and encourage more people to get their shots.
Premier François Legault pointed to the makeup of intensive-care hospitalizations in Quebec as the driver for the levy. Unvaccinated Quebeckers make up just 10 per cent of the province’s adult population but comprise about half of those admitted to ICU with the disease, he said.
“It’s a question of equity,” he said. “Right now, these people put a very important burden on our health care network. I think it’s normal that the majority of the population are asking that there be a consequence.”
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#10190296 - 01/12/22 10:31 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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curious to see how long schools will be open before they are shut down again
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#10190471 - 01/12/22 12:37 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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By this logic they should probably start taxing everyone that's fat, since that's a choice as well and a burden to society at large.
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#10191799 - 01/14/22 08:45 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Big Tasty
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It's Friday!!! Puff, Puff, don't pass.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherringto...sh=2b0ae7241753
Compounds in cannabis can prevent infection from the virus that causes Covid-19 by blocking its entry into cells, according to a study published this week by researchers affiliated with Oregon State University. A report on the research, “Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants,” was published online on Monday by the Journal of Natural Products.
The researchers found that two cannabinoid acids commonly found in hemp varietals of cannabis, cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, also known as CBDA, can bind to the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. By binding to the spike protein, the compounds can prevent the virus from entering cells and causing infection, potentially offering new avenues to prevent and treat the disease.
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#10193544 - 01/17/22 09:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I ran down a few rabbit holes lately, and ... haven't found solid evidence to go one way or the other....
a) If someone was PCR = positive, how long after infection would they continue to show positive in PCR tests? I'm reading 'up to 3 mths', which confuses me since ... How would people TRAVEL? (i.e. negative covid test to fly, etc.)
b) How soon is too soon, to get a PCR test, should you come in contact with a confirmed positive case? (I'm just hearing shit like 'PCR test is very sensitive, hence a) above, etc. etc. etc.')
Meanwhile, we're pretty much getting daily updates from pre-school about confirmed positive cases, etc.. (Whether it's PCR or other, no clue.) And we're about to put the toddler back tomorrow.
Edited by furball (01/17/22 09:17 PM)
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#10194193 - 01/18/22 02:57 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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It's Friday!!! Puff, Puff, don't pass. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherringto...sh=2b0ae7241753 Compounds in cannabis can prevent infection from the virus that causes Covid-19 by blocking its entry into cells, according to a study published this week by researchers affiliated with Oregon State University. A report on the research, “Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants,” was published online on Monday by the Journal of Natural Products.
The researchers found that two cannabinoid acids commonly found in hemp varietals of cannabis, cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, also known as CBDA, can bind to the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. By binding to the spike protein, the compounds can prevent the virus from entering cells and causing infection, potentially offering new avenues to prevent and treat the disease.
no wonder i haven't caught covid yet
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#10194370 - 01/18/22 06:39 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I ran down a few rabbit holes lately, and ... haven't found solid evidence to go one way or the other.... a) If someone was PCR = positive, how long after infection would they continue to show positive in PCR tests? I'm reading 'up to 3 mths', which confuses me since ... How would people TRAVEL? (i.e. negative covid test to fly, etc.) b) How soon is too soon, to get a PCR test, should you come in contact with a confirmed positive case? (I'm just hearing shit like 'PCR test is very sensitive, hence a) above, etc. etc. etc.') Meanwhile, we're pretty much getting daily updates from pre-school about confirmed positive cases, etc.. (Whether it's PCR or other, no clue.) And we're about to put the toddler back tomorrow.
Time to step away from doing "YoUr OwN ReSeEARCH" and live life.
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#10195124 - 01/19/22 06:15 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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restaurants and gyms set to open soon? The lockdown is really messing with the survival of restaurants.
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#10195295 - 01/20/22 06:52 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not.
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#10195754 - 01/20/22 02:44 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not.
This is probably true to some extent. Some restaurants have been able to take advantage of the pandemic by reducing their employees, going down to a skeleton crew, and moving entirely to pick-up / delivery. Good for them, if we accept that dining out and the whole hospitality experience has marginal value. That'll depend on the type of business you're running. So yeah, there were a lot of small businesses in trouble before the pandemic, and covid put the reality check on them. Guess what else was happening before the pandemic? Hospitals being overwhelmed. LOL. Google that shit. Basically every year. Chicken little.
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#10195938 - 01/20/22 06:59 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Alot of restaurants claim lockdowns killing them but we're already on a downhill before the pandemic. Tell me how some restaurants are making even more now because they changed their business model. If they haven't adapted by now they probably should have cut their losses a year ago. It's a pandemic. Alot of people are going to eat out anymore, lockdown or not. This is probably true to some extent. Some restaurants have been able to take advantage of the pandemic by reducing their employees, going down to a skeleton crew, and moving entirely to pick-up / delivery. Good for them, if we accept that dining out and the whole hospitality experience has marginal value. That'll depend on the type of business you're running. So yeah, there were a lot of small businesses in trouble before the pandemic, and covid put the reality check on them. Guess what else was happening before the pandemic? Hospitals being overwhelmed. LOL. Google that shit. Basically every year. Chicken little.
that is true, and now we have covid so it makes it extra worse
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#10201424 - 01/28/22 07:09 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Probably because a it's filled with right wing nut jobs that have attached themselves to that group. Makes the whole thing look ridiculous.
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#10201901 - 01/30/22 08:56 AM
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#10202385 - 01/31/22 10:37 AM
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That's horrible for sure. But interestingly, if you look harder, you'll also find videos of protesters cleaning up the Terry Fox statue.
Link
It's reasonable to assume that in such large groups, whatever the group, there may be some bad actors. Some might even suggest there are implants to steer the narrative for the media. Whatever the case, I think it's very apparent that our mainstream media has an agenda and we don't get an unbiased version of events from them. I personally, and I think a lot of people also, have lost faith and trust in fair reporting. What it has turned into is fear and hate from ever divergent tribes. It shouldn't be too much to ask for facts to be reported instead of right wing or left wing opinions. We're all smart enough to form or own opinions if you give us the straight facts.
Whereas the leader of the country should be uniting us, he's used language to further drive a wedge. Comparing unvaccinated people to racists and misogynists. And when there were reports of droves of trucks leaving BC and he comes out saying it's a small fringe minority, with unacceptable views; that's very a dismissive stance to take. The truck convoy is possibly the largest ever, so no big deal, right Prime Minister?
Likewise, if you look harder, you'll realise the convoy was predominantly a peaceful, diverse crowd, chanting for freedom. You don't need to agree with them or their cause. But for the media to report it with the slant that it was Nazi flags and white supremacists disingenuous at the very least.
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#10202773 - 01/31/22 04:53 PM
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The so called alt-right convoy certainly do not deserve the coverage and respect. Im all for peaceful protest, but this isn't even a protest, not even close. Mission accomplished. The media have done an outstanding job hiding it. If it isn't a protest, what is it?
I whole heartedly agree that they should not have defaced a statue as prestigious as Terry Fox. However, where were the people that are complaining about it when so many other statues were defaced, torn down and destroyed during many other "peaceful protests"? I bet its the same people that were crying to "defund the police" that are now saying the police should get involved and put an end to this protest. You're right all the rioting done the US, those are peaceful protests. The churches burnt down in Chile, those were peaceful protests.
I'm not for inconveniencing people due to a protest, and luckily I was not affected. But they're not doing anything illegal.
Let's put aside why they are protesting. Put aside whether they are "anti-vaxx". What happened to freedom of speech? Can they not voice their concerns? Or does it only count when it fits a certain agenda?
As for the Nazi flag, well it goes without saying that its just one fucktard and there weren't hundreds of flags. I wouldn't be surprised if he was planted there. (*gasp* wait not! that doesn't happen!)
Do you know how many journalists, politicians, media outlets etc were DYING for this to become a violent protest? Sadly for them, it was not.
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#10202965 - 02/01/22 06:30 AM
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Fuck these people. Bunch of idiots. Wtf are you protesting? Really. Bunch of people throwing a tantrum cause they can't have their way during a pandemic. Get over it. This ain't Burger King. You can't have it your way. All I see is alot of privilege and entitlement. Pathetic.
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#10203450 - 02/01/22 02:55 PM
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Wtf is this jank website. Ya Imma trust those stats lmao. Well the convoy happened. What exactly did they accomplish? Absolutely nothing.
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#10204473 - 02/02/22 05:00 PM
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I love stirring up the hornets nest in OT.
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#10204552 - 02/02/22 06:06 PM
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How's that convoy doing tho. Mission accomplished?
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#10204715 - 02/02/22 10:20 PM
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Coutts border fucked up. Ottawa police hinting at possibly needing military assistance. GoFundMe raising $10mil. Liberal Parliament members asking for an end to the "lockdown" of Ottawa. Convoy pop-up soon in Queens Park. The world is paying attention. I'd say mission accomplished. And just wait for the cost bump in everything.
Just to echo 355-Si, I don't get why people get so angry about differing opinions. If you don't agree, and aren't interested, don't listen; just go back to your own life. I hardly ever agree with whatever the teachers are going on strike about, but I fully support their right to voice their issues, even if it's at an inconvenience to me. I'm not so insecure that I worry that we're not all thinking or believing the same things. In fact, that's what makes things better over time; having your convictions challenged.
An we don't advance conversation by shutting people up. Let everyone speak. Then we can all form our own opinions. Be compassionate to everyone, even those who don't agree. Life's too short! I'm generally never on the same page as CBC, but I'll occasionally listen to their talk shows just so I can understand the people who think differently than me.
Even with the whole Spotify and Joe Rogan thing. Why is anyone applauding Neil Young's ultimatum? Don't want to share a platform with Rogan? Just leave quietly. Instead he makes some public stink about it. So immature. And the snowball effect of that is team Young vs team Rogan. Cancel this, cancel that. This world is fucked. So much drama.
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#10204835 - 02/03/22 08:52 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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#10204857 - 02/03/22 09:13 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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My safe space is the Ontario forum, we may not agree, but it doesn't become a shitfest. Furball handles the jabs well for example
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#10207960 - 02/09/22 08:17 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I've been WAITING for this for 2 years.
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#10208022 - 02/09/22 09:25 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10208132 - 02/09/22 10:28 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Glad things are looking up!
Maybe you can treat yourself now to not sleeping with a KN95!!
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#10236472 - 04/02/22 08:03 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Anyone else feeling anti-social now that capacity/mask mandates are all lifted?
The toddler's pre-school will continue with masks until April 15, for all adults entering (picking up/dropping off), and I'm guessing all the teachers too.
Anecdotes / random news here 'n there is saying waste water analysis is showing something like... 20-30k positive cases a day in Ontario? Fuuuuuuuuuck.
And Omicron BA.2 isn't the new hotness, it's XE or some shit...
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/...orried-about-it
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#10236477 - 04/02/22 08:46 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Forgot my mask today, walked into loblaws without one, a couple of SHOCKED looks (fuck off) but business as usual. I still wear it just not to have to talk to or deal with any dumbfuck that may have something to say, but as it gets hotter I will probably stop.
On the flipside, was at Princess Auto (mask on), 90% of people inside no mask.
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#10236589 - 04/03/22 11:19 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Feedback I've heard was that in Toronto most people are wearing masks whereas in York, Durham, Peel etc most people are not wearing them.
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#10236632 - 04/03/22 01:29 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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in Markham, I feel 80% of people still wear it.
When I was at Dollarama to grab something, the highschool kids inside didn't mask.
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#10236656 - 04/03/22 02:43 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Yea in Markham I'd say easily 80% if not more of people wear them (Markville Mall/Lobalws/etc).
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#10237105 - 04/04/22 02:13 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I was wondering what our resident agents in here do on the regular, seeing as you'd see clients (Risky & Hatorade) ... Forgot my mask today, walked into loblaws without one... Wife said the hospitals are still full-blown mask/face shields? Though not full-blown disposable gowns/etc like in the middle of the pandemic? I haven’t worn a mask at work except for patient care (as mandated by work.) There's some gastro shit going on in and around town, guessing the toddler is the germ vector ... diarrhea and shit .... Toddler just came down with a light fever yesterday (went for a hike in the morning, then kid's bday party held outdoors) ... RAT came back negative... She's staying home for the day.
Since I am going to people's houses I wear a mask/follow whatever instructions the owners have, it's the right thing to do. Their property, their rules.
My clients are more relaxed than I am, but since it's my problem I have to enforce the rules.
I mean I don't know what difference it makes, I am rolling BJJ weekly with dudes in VERY close proximity to me. Life goes on.
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#10237349 - 04/04/22 07:36 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10237478 - 04/05/22 07:34 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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We're headed to Punta Cana in May, we'll see how that shit pans out. I'd imagine masks only on the plane, and pretty much nowhere else ...
Actually NOT looking forward to it, with a toddler and <1 yr old in tow...
Covid bod incoming
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#10237521 - 04/05/22 09:07 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Why the would you do this with kids this young, you barely manage going to No Frills?
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#10237981 - 04/05/22 06:47 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Even no covid, bringing young ones to all inclusive isn't really a vacation. Its just chasing them around at +20s vs. -20s temp wise.
Right before covid, we brought our 1 year old to Mexico....the days of lounging and doing nothing but drink and nap is over.
QC back to having mask mandate.
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#10238144 - 04/06/22 07:00 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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The secret weapon is to bring one of the grandmothers if possible to try and actually vacation. Even then it's a shitshow.
Respect to furball doing this, he will get fucking rekt...but it's like a battle scar you can show off after you survive the event.
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#10238145 - 04/06/22 07:03 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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In other news, got knocked out yesterday, barely drove myself home in the morning, shivers, pains, sweating, felt like throwing up, laying down was painful wtf. Started looking at burial plots on kijiji. Did rapid test twice, negative. Slept 12 hours overnight, woke up today feeling like a million bucks
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#10238285 - 04/06/22 10:50 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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In other news, got knocked out yesterday, barely drove myself home in the morning, shivers, pains, sweating, felt like throwing up, laying down was painful wtf. Started looking at burial plots on kijiji. Did rapid test twice, negative. Slept 12 hours overnight, woke up today feeling like a million bucks Fuck I lol'd at this. Glad to hear you're feeling better.
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#10238707 - 04/06/22 07:57 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Estimated 100k-120k DAILY infections in Ontario
With the positivity rate of about 20% from PCR tests (those that are eligible) .... yeah, it's believable...
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#10238813 - 04/07/22 07:52 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Everyone in the house caught covid, including myself. What a fucking shitshow, with 5 of us being sick all at the same time.
GNSP.
feel better homie!
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#10239734 - 04/08/22 09:05 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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The secret weapon is to bring one of the grandmothers if possible to try and actually vacation. Even then it's a shitshow.
Respect to furball doing this, he will get fucking rekt...but it's like a battle scar you can show off after you survive the event.
Good call. I think I prefer to go with friends with kids. Get to check out the milfs. LOL
The grandmasters can be high maintenance.
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#10239972 - 04/09/22 10:40 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Fucking booster. I've been perfectly fine for the past two years since this kicked off. Not even a sniffle.
Got my 3rd shot on Weds evening and started feeling like crap the next day. Took Friday off work and slept from noon til 8pm. Thought the fever broke last night but today still under the weather. Took the home test just now and I have COVID.
Everything I read says you can't get it from the shot but don't tell me I coincidentally get it the next day of the fucking booster.
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#10240138 - 04/10/22 05:19 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Simon_the_Pieman
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Fucking booster. I've been perfectly fine for the past two years since this kicked off. Not even a sniffle. Got my 3rd shot on Weds evening and started feeling like crap the next day. Took Friday off work and slept from noon til 8pm. Thought the fever broke last night but today still under the weather. Took the home test just now and I have COVID. Everything I read says you can't get it from the shot but don't tell me I coincidentally get it the next day of the fucking booster.
after my 3rd shot i went down and out for 2 weeks. rest up man!
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#10252097 - 05/04/22 12:34 PM
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Came back from a week in Punta Cana... "Magically," covid doesn't exist for all the tourists on the resort, i.e. no masks on the resort. Was kinda freaked out but relaxed after a bit.
First time I went to a resort that's catered to families with small kids; there are resorts that are kid-friendly, and then there are Disney-world-esque resorts specifically for kids, like Nickelodeon Resorts, and then there's 'The Finest - Punta Cana'...
Upon arriving, I felt like a peasant ... wife was like wtf is going on, just 1 pair of swim trunks, 1 pair of shorts, flipflops, and 1 pair of casual shoes for you? etc... Hotel room had 3 full bottles of booze for you to drink as you please (Johnny, Barcelo, Stolichnaya), 'kids lounges with nanny' at every restaurant, etc.
Rain the last 1.5 days, didn't leave the resort for excursions, and kids both came back with weird shit (infant ear infection + fever, toddler fever + canker sores + other infection.)
We thankfully missed that whole Sunwing fucktard fiasco, and that whole "security check staffing issue" fiasco as well... MIL was 'randomly' chosen for a covid test though on return....
I checked the Dominican Republic covid vax rates... only about 54% have at least 1 shot.
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#10252590 - 05/05/22 10:18 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Got covid this week, weird experience.
Wife was down Mon/Tue, I was fine, she tested positive I tested negative.
Been testing every single day, on Tuesday really felt like a bag of shit, still tested negative.
Tested last night, positive, yet I feel I am almost recovered. These rapid tests are like fortune cookies.
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#10252622 - 05/05/22 10:47 AM
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Tested last night, positive, yet I feel I am almost recovered. These rapid tests are like fortune cookies.
but they taste like snot
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#10252758 - 05/05/22 01:34 PM
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Pretty sure it was my wife.
Kids were the least affected by it, in fact I've never seen this amazing/caring side from my kids ever, they are literally trying to help us, reminding us to take tylenol, wtf. Usually it's the opposite.
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#10252852 - 05/05/22 03:38 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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I caught it the other week. Avoided it for 2 years only to catch it because an idiot relative brought it into our house. Disclaimer the idiot relative was an idiot far before this incident.
Relative comes over on a Friday. Saturday morning my wife tells me that she tested positive. I was like "Wait, why did she out of the blue take a test? She was at our house and then 15 hours later she's feeling like shit?"
Apparently she was feeling like shit all week So wtf are you coming over to our house?!?
Sunday night I had incredible chills and the worst headache I've ever had. Monday tons of body aches. My cough started Wed or Thursday and has been lingering for 2 weeks now. People are telling me to expect it to last at least a month if not more.
What's funny is that I took a test on the Monday and it was negative. Took another on Tues or Wed and again negative. About an hour later my wife checks it and there is a faint second line. I go back to my first test and it too had a faint second line. By Friday when I was feeling better, I took a test and there is a clear solid second line.
My wife caught it as well a few days after me but not as severe. My eldest kid caught it but even less of an impact to him. My two other kids didn't catch it.
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#10276361 - 06/19/22 10:35 PM
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors.
We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times.
On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live.
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#10276530 - 06/20/22 10:39 AM
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Several years back, my cousin vacationed in PEI and loved it. Her and husband spoke of retiring there. In 2019 she was on the hunt for a new job and when she couldn't find the right fit she found what she was looking for (job wise) in PEI. They packed up with family and moved in 2020. A pretty bold and surprising move.
In general everyone is very friendly there but there is a general attitude towards anyone from Toronto. That was massively compounded when they moved in 2020 by all the COVID cases that Toronto while it was almost non-existent in PEI.
In general they love it out there. Two year later the rest of our family is still trying to determine if they're going to stay there for life or they'll end up moving back (for several reasons, one of which is to be closer to family).
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#10276682 - 06/20/22 02:48 PM
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors. We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times. On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live.
Wife and I are driving out East in 2 weeks, except we are not stopping in Montreal. We are stopping in QC, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton.
Any recommendations?
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#10276890 - 06/21/22 04:52 AM
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#10276958 - 06/21/22 09:41 AM
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors. We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times. On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live. Wife and I are driving out East in 2 weeks, except we are not stopping in Montreal. We are stopping in QC, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton. Any recommendations?
We had seafood back to back one one of the days and this place tasted much fresher than the other.
https://waterprincelobster.com/
I'd say its worth a try.
If you've never tried the Magnetic Hill, look it up. I went and it was pretty trippy. That's def a fun thing to do.
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#10278013 - 06/23/22 06:45 AM
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors. We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times. On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live. Wife and I are driving out East in 2 weeks, except we are not stopping in Montreal. We are stopping in QC, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton. Any recommendations? We had seafood back to back one one of the days and this place tasted much fresher than the other. https://waterprincelobster.com/I'd say its worth a try. If you've never tried the Magnetic Hill, look it up. I went and it was pretty trippy. That's def a fun thing to do.
Thanks!
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#10278316 - 06/23/22 01:30 PM
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors. We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times. On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live. Wife and I are driving out East in 2 weeks, except we are not stopping in Montreal. We are stopping in QC, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton. Any recommendations? We had seafood back to back one one of the days and this place tasted much fresher than the other. https://waterprincelobster.com/I'd say its worth a try. If you've never tried the Magnetic Hill, look it up. I went and it was pretty trippy. That's def a fun thing to do.
Magnetic Hill is whack LOL
When we went it was dead so they let us go on it 4x LOL
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#10280430 - 06/27/22 08:33 PM
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Anyone been hit with covid 2 times yet? Wondering how long antibodies are good for. Asking for a friend.
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#10280635 - 06/28/22 10:02 AM
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Anyone been hit with covid 2 times yet? Wondering how long antibodies are good for. Asking for a friend.
My buddy caught it twice. First time was back in December'21, wasn't bad. Most recent was end of May and one night he was almost ready to go into emergency... He broke out in a high fever and had trouble breathing. He's ok now though LOL
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#10281198 - 06/28/22 08:53 PM
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Can't go "girls gone wild" after first infection i guess.
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#10286976 - 07/11/22 08:59 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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c2k
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Drove out East last week to Quebec city, PEI, Nova Scotia, Montreal last week. Masks were like a thing of the past. We masked when we were indoors at hotels and what not. I think the only people who wore them were tourists. Compare to Markham, I still see like maybe 60-80% depending where indoors. We were planning to do patio dining but ended up indoors a couple of times and my wife managed to get covid. She literally just had a runny nose. The 1.5 year old, my 4 year old and I are perfectly fine. I did a rapid test 2x and negative both times. On a side note, the East is nice. Nice to visit. Maybe too slow pace for me to live. Wife and I are driving out East in 2 weeks, except we are not stopping in Montreal. We are stopping in QC, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Moncton. Any recommendations? We had seafood back to back one one of the days and this place tasted much fresher than the other. https://waterprincelobster.com/I'd say its worth a try. If you've never tried the Magnetic Hill, look it up. I went and it was pretty trippy. That's def a fun thing to do. Magnetic Hill is whack LOL When we went it was dead so they let us go on it 4x LOL
There was nobody there, and the hill was mind bogging as I could not compute why I was going uphill. Thanks for the recos.
Meanwhile, I traveled 4,362 km and my TDI averaged 5.7l/100 km. I filled up my tank 4 times during the trip.
We loved every minute on the atlantic side, and we welcomed the slow pace of life which was a nice change after a hectic lifestyle at home.
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#10287492 - 07/11/22 09:56 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Cool. Glad you enjoyed it. I was equally mind blown. lol
As for Atlantic Canada, the people there are so chill. I was at a random beach in the middle of no where and a guy came up telling us his life story about how he went from Vancouver to PEI and blah blah blah....lol
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#10291325 - 07/19/22 12:13 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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We're thinking of heading to France in Sept sans kids ....
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#10292323 - 07/20/22 08:41 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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#10323479 - 09/18/22 09:53 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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my oldest is at school. She is vaxxed. We send her with a mask. So far so good.
I started to go into work as well. I am the only one wearing a mask in the office. My 4 year old does so I should as well.
Transit wise, seems like 80% of ppl still do. Its one thing to get it hanging with friends, its another to get it riding the train.
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#10323495 - 09/19/22 04:58 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Seems like in Markham 80%+ are wearing masks, at least the stores I go to.
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#10323505 - 09/19/22 07:21 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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furball
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Went to Paris (France, not Ontario ) for a week, COVID (protocol) doesn't exist except on the AC flight and Pearson.
This past Friday, toddler brought something home, fever all day. I felt like shit all wkend, elevated temps on Sunday, rapid tests negative. Sunday the 1-yr old gets a fever all night. FML.
Don't think I've ever been so frequently sick until 3-yr old started pre-school....
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#10323529 - 09/19/22 08:43 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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What's odd is that you'd think it's mostly Asians that wear masks, if anything it's all of them whites and asians. I am at odds with this, I wear a mask when I am showing homes if it's required, not wearing one otherwise. Not trying to make a point, it's just an inconvenience especially when it's hot and I haven't been sick.
Might wear one in the winter to keep my face warm or do a B&E.
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#10323531 - 09/19/22 08:44 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Went to Paris (France, not Ontario ) for a week, COVID (protocol) doesn't exist except on the AC flight and Pearson. This past Friday, toddler brought something home, fever all day. I felt like shit all wkend, elevated temps on Sunday, rapid tests negative. Sunday the 1-yr old gets a fever all night. FML. Don't think I've ever been so frequently sick until 3-yr old started pre-school....
Try not wearing a mask, maybe you will get less sick
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#10328016 - 09/28/22 09:56 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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OracerO
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Caught covid (I think) Mar 2020, just before covid broke out. I didn't get tested but was bed ridden for 2 weeks with a slow simmering fever . Lost my taste for a year.
seems good now ...
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#10350367 - 11/08/22 05:13 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Thank you for your service
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#10350923 - 11/09/22 01:19 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Both my daughters were home last week, it's non stop
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#10351251 - 11/10/22 06:10 AM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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Simon_the_Pieman
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Am I the only one that remembers these bugs existing (every year) before Covid?
always have been and always will be.
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#10365952 - 12/12/22 10:18 PM
Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked?
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A2B-Lexus
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Oldest daughter got hit with that nasty bug that is going around and has been out of school yesterday and today. Sore throat, coughing, congestion...etc. Hopefully she will be back to school for tomorrow.
We had the same....took a month or so to shake.
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