#9020515 - 05/04/17 01:15 PM
Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Hey Guys, It's been a while since I've posted but I do lurk regularly and I can tell you guys still know your cars.
I currently have a BMW 540 6 speed that I am starting to consider replacing, but after testing out a number of vehicles nothing has whoo'd me out of my car.
I am looking for a used sport sedan with decent power (V8 would be nice, Japanese would be nice) and something that has good throttle response...A lot of the cars I have tested take a second to respond to inputs - that kills it for me. Makes me want to hold onto the 540 as I'm getting the feeling all these new drive by wire car kill the response.
Some cars I have tested -
2012 G37x delay in throttle and when you got on it, it never came alive
2012 BMW 535 - hated everything about it -
2012 WRX STI - Not bad - but not great, It comes to life and you have to shift - handled great but interior is cheap and I feel like I've outgrown it already. I typically hold onto a car for 10 years.
Still to try
Lexus IS 350
Lexus LS 460 - V8 but probably too luxury and not enough sport
Audi S4
V8 M3 - I really don't want to cuz I bet I'll like it
A big part of me wants to say F it and get another Rav4 V6 sport, wife has one and it performs decent.
Do you guys have any recommendations? I'm trying to keep it under 20K if possible
Thanks
Edited by Mr.Bozack (05/04/17 01:17 PM)
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#9020541 - 05/04/17 01:28 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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c2k
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was gonna suggest some but then i saw your comment "I'm trying to keep it under 20K if possible" - yeeaaahhh that's not happening with the better cars you had mentioned...
Unless he gets a car w/ a branded title or a rebuild.
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#9020669 - 05/04/17 03:00 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Yeah I know 20 is tuff I have some room on the number just trying not to get tied down to payments
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#9020685 - 05/04/17 03:12 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Senor Eduardo_82
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#9020716 - 05/04/17 03:49 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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535 was 23K - I've seen some M3s as low as 25 - probably need 10K worth or work mind you. Yeah it's tuff to find anything interesting in the 20K range but I'm trying to stay in around that range if possible
Never Miata - you could swap whatever you want in that thing and it would still be a chick car
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#9020750 - 05/04/17 04:47 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Thinking about holding onto the 540 as there is only 170K on it...but I like to have an idea of what I'll be getting next in case I have to make a quick decision.
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#9020818 - 05/04/17 06:38 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Denis Si
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I keep looking for a clean 2013 is-f. Fits my needs lol
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#9021556 - 05/05/17 03:41 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Acura Legend damn that's taking it back. Good luck finding one without a bunch of chrome on it.
Yes is350
Hows about a RX8 with a swapped LS motor? I liked the balance of that car but the reliability was it's downfall.
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#9021578 - 05/05/17 04:00 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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#9022000 - 05/06/17 04:40 PM
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Riskhe Business
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Thinking about holding onto the 540 as there is only 170K on it...but I like to have an idea of what I'll be getting next in case I have to make a quick decision.
Keep it, do you have the m tech bumpers? If so, this is a no brainer, the cars with the m sport are still head turners.
Post pics.
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#9022901 - 05/08/17 11:27 AM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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4age
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i will throw out there that you will hate the audi if you value response, feel and feedback. it's a competent chassis and great car, but feels galaxies away from an e39.
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#9023051 - 05/08/17 02:35 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Risky I don't have any picts on my comp or phone but it's a Oxford Green with Tan inside. Unfortunately it's not a facelift model or Mtech bumpers...however because it's a 98 it's pre vanos and makes more power than the Vanos models.
4age thanks for that feedback if I do test an audi (not a ticking time bomb v8) I'll keep that in mind so I won't be totally shocked if I hate it...I was very disapointed with the F10 535 - it was even the sport model with paddles but I was so distracted by the process of getting it into gear releasing the brake and friggen with the signal lights that I forgot to push the sport button it might have sharpened things up but it felt huge.
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#9023108 - 05/08/17 03:50 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Riskhe Business
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i will throw out there that you will hate the audi if you value response, feel and feedback. it's a competent chassis and great car, but feels galaxies away from an e39.
I think the throttle response is adequate for a street car that's not cable, but the clutch engagement is atrocious. I can't wait to do the delay valve delete.
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#9023359 - 05/08/17 10:01 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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The only IS350 you can get would be the prior body model which is 10 years old and probably beaten up.
For $20k, I'd just get a Civic Si Sedan. Probably not age appropriate but at least its 200 HP and has modern options that won't break. On top of that, you can probably still sell it for a good price a few years later.
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#9023579 - 05/09/17 10:03 AM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Risky I don't have any picts on my comp or phone but it's a Oxford Green with Tan inside. Unfortunately it's not a facelift model or Mtech bumpers...however because it's a 98 it's pre vanos and makes more power than the Vanos models.
4age thanks for that feedback if I do test an audi (not a ticking time bomb v8) I'll keep that in mind so I won't be totally shocked if I hate it...I was very disapointed with the F10 535 - it was even the sport model with paddles but I was so distracted by the process of getting it into gear releasing the brake and friggen with the signal lights that I forgot to push the sport button it might have sharpened things up but it felt huge. Sport button is not magic. No feel through the wheel and zippier throttle won't make it a nice driver unfortunately. You will like an Audi more than an f10 (more feel), but it's leagues different from an e39
R button in new CTR...wakes up the car something fierce apparently.
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#9023587 - 05/09/17 10:10 AM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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A2B I did consider (for a brief moment) a Si sedan but I think that would be too much of a step back...I had my SiR for 11 years (that's what brought here back in 99) I ended up doing exedy stage 1 clutch and lightweight flyweel and the throttle response on that car was great as a result.
I have seen some decent examples of is350s that looked ok - on trader, but haven't inspected any yet.
Euforic Good to hear that the Audi is better than the F10 that gives me hope for that car. Can't believe they have a clutch delay valve in that thing, the 540 had one too and I got rid of ASAP - Yes the e39 chassis seems to be good, it took me a while to like the car coming from something so nimble and light before.
Hearing you guys praise the e39 makes me wanna hold onto it but the thing I'm facing with the 540 is that to freshen it up to my standards (not including some small rust spots) would cost more than what the car is worth. I would be OK with this if I wasn't facing the potential failure of timing guides at around the 200K mark...and this would be a repair that would again be more money than what the car is worth...Potentially spend 6K on a car that is showing rust and would only be worth 1-3 Gs
My mechanic that only works on BMWs tells me to avoid the 335 (he said maintenance on them can be brutal) and recommends a 09 - 10 328. He told me basically anything after 2010 has lost the feel - minus the M3
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#9023589 - 05/09/17 10:14 AM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Rage yes - the BRZ/86 would be great if I was 20 and didn't have kids.
Anyone ever try out a Cayenne? I know crazy maintenance but it does check some boxes for me - not so much the styling but the room and performance.
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#9023591 - 05/09/17 10:16 AM
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Mr.Bozack
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Screaming that R almost makes me want to get back into a Honda but the styling on that thing is so boy racer while priced for middle aged incomes.
Any thoughts on a C63 AMG sedan? I've seen some examples in the mid to high 20s
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#9023731 - 05/09/17 12:25 PM
Re: Recommend me sport sedan
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Mr.Bozack
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Yeah for sure thus why I'm not already in one. I'm sure a 5K repair is not uncommon for a car of that nature and if it's anything like a M3 the motor is 20K +
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#9024313 - 05/09/17 07:55 PM
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A2B-Lexus
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I found the prior gen IS too small on the inside. If you could stretch it a bit, go for the TLX.
http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/TLX/Tor...O&orup=4_15_275
Relatively new.....someone else has taken the hit on depreciation.
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