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#8926496 - 01/27/17 09:56 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: LNXGUY]
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That doesn't sound like a very fun way to get great highway mileage, lol. Range anxiety would definitely bother me.


There is no range anxiety, only if you don't plan like my dumbass self not charging the car before a road trip.

Other than that I've never had an issue and I have a lot of wheel time behind the p85.

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#8926497 - 01/27/17 09:58 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: phoenixrage]
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or at least the range not being so drastically affected by weather.


+1

You'd get slaughtered doing 100 on the 407... you need to do 120 + winter tires + heat/defrosters + snow

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#8926498 - 01/27/17 09:58 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: xza8]
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Oddly enough, a co-worker of mine who DD's a Volt is going to test drive a Bolt tonight.

Hmmmm.


For the money and range it's not bad for someone that never needs the extended range. My wife loves never needing to worry about filling up. She always hated going to the gas station.


Theoretically, you can go nearly 700km in the Bolt if you leave with a full charge and get a quick-charge when the battery is out. The quick charge takes an hour, and of course you have to find a quick-charge station along the way. Seems very reasonable for someone who can plan their journey well. That'll get you to Montreal with plenty to spare (562km from Mississauga).


No way... I have a 75 kw battery and I struggled with going to Niagara Falls. I had access to 2 superchargers (Grimsby and Buffalo) but nowhere near anxiety free.

Left Markham with 100%... got to Grimsby with 40%... charged up to 70%... arrived at Sheraton On the Falls with 20%.

Charged at a Level 1 charger Casino Niagara @ 5 km/hour... meanwhile the car drives 2.5 km for 5 km stated.

We planned on staying at the Falls so I didn't need the car so just charged the whole day.

I could've hunted for a Level 2 charger @ the Travelodge but I didn't feel like walking 10 minutes back to the hotel.

I DEFINITELY had to top up at Grimsby. Left Grimsby with 80% and arrived Toronto with 20%.


YOu must be omitting some pretty critical variables in the way you drive/electricity you were using, etc to be getting half the stated mileage.

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#8926501 - 01/27/17 10:00 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
or at least the range not being so drastically affected by weather.


Yeah, that's a killer.


It's not that bad, as long as you forget that the car comes with climate control (no ac in summer, no heat in winter) it's perfectly fine

/tesla apologist

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#8926508 - 01/27/17 10:03 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Risky Business]
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#8926511 - 01/27/17 10:04 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
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Oddly enough, a co-worker of mine who DD's a Volt is going to test drive a Bolt tonight.

Hmmmm.


For the money and range it's not bad for someone that never needs the extended range. My wife loves never needing to worry about filling up. She always hated going to the gas station.


Theoretically, you can go nearly 700km in the Bolt if you leave with a full charge and get a quick-charge when the battery is out. The quick charge takes an hour, and of course you have to find a quick-charge station along the way. Seems very reasonable for someone who can plan their journey well. That'll get you to Montreal with plenty to spare (562km from Mississauga).


No way... I have a 75 kw battery and I struggled with going to Niagara Falls. I had access to 2 superchargers (Grimsby and Buffalo) but nowhere near anxiety free.

Left Markham with 100%... got to Grimsby with 40%... charged up to 70%... arrived at Sheraton On the Falls with 20%.

Charged at a Level 1 charger Casino Niagara @ 5 km/hour... meanwhile the car drives 2.5 km for 5 km stated.

We planned on staying at the Falls so I didn't need the car so just charged the whole day.

I could've hunted for a Level 2 charger @ the Travelodge but I didn't feel like walking 10 minutes back to the hotel.

I DEFINITELY had to top up at Grimsby. Left Grimsby with 80% and arrived Toronto with 20%.


YOu must be omitting some pretty critical variables in the way you drive/electricity you were using, etc to be getting half the stated mileage.


I drive an X so it's worse mileage than your S

I'm on super grippy Hakkapeliitta 2 instead of the typical Scorpion/Sotto Zero

I never accelerate faster than 100 watt hour/km (autopilot accelerates way faster than I do)

I try to drive with 1 pedal, hardly touch the brakes unless to come to a full stop

I have a kid in the back, so the heat in the back is set to 22*

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#8926517 - 01/27/17 10:07 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: xza8]
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What was your average speed, like 130? I can see it then.
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#8926641 - 01/27/17 11:13 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: LNXGUY]
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Sort of my point with the Bolt: Way more expensive than a Spark and you get range anxiety. So why not just get the Spark if you're looking for a car that size?

But as a second car for commuting, I can see it working for some people who don't mind paying way too much just to get an electric car.
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#8926734 - 01/27/17 11:40 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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I think a plug in hybrid is best given the current infrastructure. A volt with a larger battery is a pretty good compromise. 300kms real world is just too little for me regardless of what charger I have at home. As a second car that gets a small commute each day it could be a full size SUV. 50/week or every 2 weeks takes a long time to make up any savings and convenience.

/back to my appliance 4Runner

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#8926761 - 01/27/17 11:51 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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Sort of my point with the Bolt: Way more expensive than a Spark and you get range anxiety. So why not just get the Spark if you're looking for a car that size?

But as a second car for commuting, I can see it working for some people who don't mind paying way too much just to get an electric car.


+1
at what point does it even make sense to spend the extra for the bolt?
even factoring in gas price for the spark, it is like half the cost...and is miserly on gas
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#8926815 - 01/27/17 12:15 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I think a plug in hybrid is best given the current infrastructure. A volt with a larger battery is a pretty good compromise. 300kms real world is just too little for me regardless of what charger I have at home. As a second car that gets a small commute each day it could be a full size SUV. 50/week or every 2 weeks takes a long time to make up any savings and convenience.

/back to my appliance 4Runner


agreed. this is our test bitch from the US here and it gets great mileage and still has "accord feelz"




also, forgot about the '13 Fit EV...the US got it, we didn't.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/33905.shtml

http://insideevs.com/honda-reduces-the-fit-ev-lease-from-389-to-259-moves-to-unlimited-mileage/

I bugged them to bring a test one up here too, no luck. I'd rock an EV Fit DD for commute (change out the seats though, i find them lacking in comfort).



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#8926824 - 01/27/17 12:19 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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That's some ugly gaudy looking shit.
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#8926875 - 01/27/17 12:40 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Hatorade]
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The new refreshed accord is actually hawt fire
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#8926876 - 01/27/17 12:40 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: 4age]
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Sort of my point with the Bolt: Way more expensive than a Spark and you get range anxiety. So why not just get the Spark if you're looking for a car that size?

But as a second car for commuting, I can see it working for some people who don't mind paying way too much just to get an electric car.


+1
at what point does it even make sense to spend the extra for the bolt?
even factoring in gas price for the spark, it is like half the cost...and is miserly on gas


I agree, it's probably not worth it, unless you drive a lot (like 40km+ a year).

I think at the moment the prius is the best bang for the buck.

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#8926937 - 01/27/17 01:02 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Hatorade]
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That's some ugly gaudy looking shit.


i think it's pretty decent!
better looking than the bolt XD XD XD
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#8926944 - 01/27/17 01:04 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Hatorade]
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That's some ugly gaudy looking shit.


....said your wife seeing you at the alter on her wedding day.
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#8926970 - 01/27/17 01:15 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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17 hybrid looks nice, close to reg accord. plug-in has the funky front end as usual only, still looks decent. better than that shit for ToyoTER! lol uuugghh

https://preview2.netcarshow.com/Honda-Accord_Hybrid-2017-ig.jpg

I'm very curious to see what this planned hybrid truck model is for 2018
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#8926979 - 01/27/17 01:21 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I like the way the new accord looks
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#8927018 - 01/27/17 01:46 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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New Ridgeline though... wtf Honda? lol
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#8927027 - 01/27/17 01:56 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: LNXGUY]
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New Ridgeline though... wtf Honda? lol


lol yyeeaahhh. well it's basically a pilot with the rear roof cut off. drive/handles nice though since it's SUV based and not true pickup. but i'll tell you that bed can take a beating. towing i think it still only 5000 lbs doe?
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#8927038 - 01/27/17 02:06 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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It reminds me of the Chevy trucks sold in South America. 5000lbs isn't all that bad for that size of truck.
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#8927070 - 01/27/17 02:23 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: 4age]
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That's some ugly gaudy looking shit.


i think it's pretty decent!
better looking than the bolt XD XD XD


+1

Note to self: add Accord hybrid to list of cars to try.
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#8927078 - 01/27/17 02:30 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I think a plug in hybrid is best given the current infrastructure. A volt with a larger battery is a pretty good compromise. 300kms real world is just too little for me regardless of what charger I have at home. As a second car that gets a small commute each day it could be a full size SUV. 50/week or every 2 weeks takes a long time to make up any savings and convenience.

/back to my appliance 4Runner


agreed. this is our test bitch from the US here and it gets great mileage and still has "accord feelz"




also, forgot about the '13 Fit EV...the US got it, we didn't.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/33905.shtml

http://insideevs.com/honda-reduces-the-fit-ev-lease-from-389-to-259-moves-to-unlimited-mileage/

I bugged them to bring a test one up here too, no luck. I'd rock an EV Fit DD for commute (change out the seats though, i find them lacking in comfort).



Any reason you're "testing" this right now? I thought you said the PHEV would be the Clarity from now on. Why "test" a 2013 Accord PHEV at your job?
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#8927097 - 01/27/17 02:38 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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Why did you buy the RDX if you need a hybrid?
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#8927113 - 01/27/17 02:45 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Risky Business]
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^^ We have a test fleet and we'll get special cars from American Honda that are not sold in Canada, test reasons vary but it's basically to share results from long term driveability/etc/etc. I think they 'planned' to sell the plug-in here but they pulled it last minute. So we just get the regular hybrid FHEV.

2018 FCX clarity - I think it's going to be an FHEV regular hybrid (what does the internet say??) and not a PHEV plug-in. I assume they're tossing the Accord FHEV motor into it with slight tweaks.
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#8927129 - 01/27/17 02:56 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Risky Business]
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Why did you buy the RDX if you need a hybrid?


Thinking of "giving" the RDX to the G/F.

I love the RDX but that's a thirsty V6 powering that thing! We'd use it to go mountain biking, skiing etc. The commuter (hybrid, electric whatever) would just be for me to carpool to work (120km/day).
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#8928238 - 01/28/17 08:20 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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So will it have the reliability of $40K GM econobox?

The CRZ was a fun little car for a hybrid. But man were they ever slow lol.


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#8928272 - 01/28/17 09:18 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: The Postman]
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hyundai joining the party too wow....

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/pages/about/Ioniq.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Ioniq

and you can choose from hybrid setup, plug in or electric. could be a contender...





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#8928529 - 01/29/17 07:19 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Will the batteries explode like Samsung?
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#8928559 - 01/29/17 09:16 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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Why did you buy the RDX if you need a hybrid?


Thinking of "giving" the RDX to the G/F.

I love the RDX but that's a thirsty V6 powering that thing! We'd use it to go mountain biking, skiing etc. The commuter (hybrid, electric whatever) would just be for me to carpool to work (120km/day).


Your trolling attempts are weak. You make zero sense needing something with better gas mileage since you car pool. Fucking troll.
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#8929495 - 01/30/17 10:29 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Hatorade]
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Once again your hatred trumps your logic. Carpool or not, a more fuel efficient car is well... more fuel efficient.

Besides, we're looking for a second vehicle these days anyway. So why not go for more fuel efficiency?
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#8929502 - 01/30/17 10:32 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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So why buy the rdx to begin with? You make no sense with your non-sense. For one hybrids are the most inefficient at highway speeds. Keep trolling idiot.
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#8929564 - 01/30/17 11:09 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Hatorade]
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The RDX suits one of our needs, we just need a different vehicle to suit another. I was looking primarily at a battery electric, hence the Bolt test-drive.

Or did you not pay any attention to that?

Hey look, there's a bird on your car. Go spread some hate.
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#8929686 - 01/30/17 12:02 PM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: Just A Troll]
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i can understand the desire for fuel efficiency when one's commute is 120km!
Is that 1 way or both ways?
I do 120km both ways all the time XD car ends up being worth nothing in no time due to the mileage.
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#8930791 - 01/31/17 08:41 AM Re: Chevy Bolt pricing announced [Re: 4age]
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inderdasting. heard about this last week, wasn't sure where would be announced for Honda and GM...

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1305610
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