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#7900089 - 10/07/14 10:37 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: johnso2.6]
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 Originally Posted By: Johnso26
Seriously OB1, this is a great example of why you get fucked with so hard here. /notrollguarantee
This is a prime situation, you're right.

Some people assume I'm saying I know everything. LNX saying "not true" isn't what I call factual evidence. His claim isn't any better than my Google search. Who's actually wrong or right is really irrelevant (we are both correct, as it seems)...but that the 2 positions were seriously mirror images of each other. However I was the only one who admitted to Google.

I think part of the problem, if not the main problem, is I take hard positions and language at whatever knowledge level I'm at within a given subject. I'm not easily swayed either, unless it's a fact (like here). People take that as a know-it-all but I don't claim to be. I just need hard evidence to be convinced.

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#7900099 - 10/07/14 10:43 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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I can agree with that ---^ I'm just giving you my 'hard evidence' from my own personal experiences.

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#7900101 - 10/07/14 10:46 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
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lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture.


How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it


people with no experience with steroids talking about the side effects... lelz.

So you have experience to "lulz" at me? Or can you not read about the side effects?


lifetime "natty" here, one of the nicest guys I've ever met. 6'4 and roughly 260lbs

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#7900106 - 10/07/14 10:50 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 137]
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When you are on you will in fact fuck like a porn star. When you come off you will run the risk of having flaccid problems. A lot of factors would play into those results tho. Some people will take clomid to reduce those effects.
Small nuts can/will happen but its not like its something out of a comic either.
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#7900108 - 10/07/14 10:52 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 137]
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lol natty
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#7900113 - 10/07/14 10:55 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Euphoricuck]
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More importantly I'm curious how pointing out a natural guy has anything to do with what he quoted.
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#7900115 - 10/07/14 10:56 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: McCavityCat]
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Testicular atrophy is the result of your body failing to produce testosterone on its own because it's being artificially supplied, by an outside source. This results in the "shrinking" of your balls. Though, you can't tell and neither can anyone else. It's not like they actually shrink visibly, it's more like they feel less, full? This is only a problem for the novice user. A more experienced user will take HCG (not HGH) to stimulate natural testosterone production and prevent this from happening. HCG is s subcutaneous injection and requires only a small insulin needle. The dosage is very low. Typically HCG is taken toward the end or second half of the cycle, however, some guys start low dosages immediately. Different schools of thought.
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#7900120 - 10/07/14 11:04 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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Seriously though, could you outline a typical "cycle". I'm curious as to how much, how often, how long, how many things.
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#7900123 - 10/07/14 11:08 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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I don't like the idea of storing and carting around my work like a drug addict with needles and such.

Is there any way to just take it rectally? You know, like a man?

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#7900126 - 10/07/14 11:10 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: johnso2.6]
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 Originally Posted By: Johnso26
I don't like the idea of storing and carting around my work like a drug addict with needles and such.

Is there any way to just take it rectally? You know, like a man?


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#7900166 - 10/07/14 11:34 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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Sure,

Hypothetical Cycle:

Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/week
Trenbolone Enanthate - 400mg/week

Each steroid is suspended in a solution, called an ester. This solution determines the absorbability of the steroid. Think of it as the "time-release" mechanism of the steroid. Some steroids have shorter esters and some have longer. A longer ester requires less frequent injections because its being absorbed slowly over time. A short ester absorbs quicker, however, requires frequent dosing.

Example:

Long acting ester: Enanthate - ~10 days
Short acting ester: Acetate - ~2 days

When purchasing steroids you can decide which ester you want. For example, there is Testosterone-Enanthate and Testosterone-Acetate.

The advantage to a shorter ester is the dosage is almost immediately absorbs into the blood stream. So if you wanted to take 250mg/week of Testosterone Acetate you would need to inject about 50mg every other day. The result is more stable blood plasma levels because the dosage is staying very consistent. The more stable your blood plasma level, the less likely your are to experience negative side effects. - The downside to Acetate is, you become a pin cushion. Injecting every other day can take a toll on your mental well-being. After 6 weeks or so most guys becomes so tired of injecting they cut they're cycle early. This is the advantage to Enanthate.

Enanthate allows you to inject that same 250mg, however all at once. Resulting in a once per week injection (I know the half-life is about 10 days, so there is a bit of an excess build-up, but its usually negligible). This is much more comfortable, from an injection frequency stand point. The downside is the solution is absorbed in a wave like pattern. With a small amount being absorbed in the beginning of the week, a larger portion in the middle of the week, and small amount tapering down towards the end of the week. My advice is to use an Enanthate solution, however, divide the weekly total into 2 dosages; so 125mg on Sunday, 125mg on Wednesday. This is the best of both worlds. You get the long lasting Enanthate ester and more stable blood plasma levels.

Okay... moving on...


Since we decided to get both Test and Tren in Enanthate, we can inject them on the same days at the same frequency. Remember, our cycle is 250mg/week Test and 400mg/week Tren. Since we're injecting twice per week we're going to need to load up the syringe with 125mg of Test and 200mg of Tren. You can pull from one vial and then the next. Inject the steroid into the location of your choosing. Thighs being the most popular.

Repeat this every week for 12 weeks.

Sometime around week 10 you're going to start taking HCG to increase your natural testosterone production. If you don't your body will go into a testosterone deficit (not just back to normal). This will cause you to lose all of those gains that you just spent 10 weeks working on. You want a smooth transition from on the cycle to off the cycle. You're going to take HCG for 4 weeks at a dosage of about 250-500iu/week. This gets injected into the skin of your stomach.

Around week 11 you're going to start taking the pill Nolvadex. I believe its 20mg/day for 4-6 weeks? I'm a bit rusty so I could be off. Nolvadex stops the conversion of excess Testosterone from turning into Estrogen. Helping eliminate side effects such as gynocomastia (swelling of the nipples) and also helping you keep your gains.

Once that's done, your cycle is complete. Stay off for about 3 months and then go back on and hit it again. 2 cycles per year and you'll be jacked.
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you guys are totally gonna be like "Oh chef can you make ME a coyote hoody?!" and I'm gonna be like
let me check that thread and see who called my nephew a hick

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#7900194 - 10/07/14 11:47 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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Fuck.

Will recruit doctor who is breaking bad.


Edited by Johnso26 (10/07/14 11:47 AM)

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#7900200 - 10/07/14 11:48 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: johnso2.6]
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It's not that complicated. Guys on certain forums have great stacks laid out for you to follow if you want.
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#7900214 - 10/07/14 11:51 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Johnso26
Seriously OB1, this is a great example of why you get fucked with so hard here. /notrollguarantee
This is a prime situation, you're right.

Some people assume I'm saying I know everything. LNX saying "not true" isn't what I call factual evidence. His claim isn't any better than my Google search. Who's actually wrong or right is really irrelevant (we are both correct, as it seems)...but that the 2 positions were seriously mirror images of each other. However I was the only one who admitted to Google.

I think part of the problem, if not the main problem, is I take hard positions and language at whatever knowledge level I'm at within a given subject. I'm not easily swayed either, unless it's a fact (like here). People take that as a know-it-all but I don't claim to be. I just need hard evidence to be convinced.


ok... but how do you acquire your knowledge that you take a hard position on? real life experience, or internet reading?

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#7900219 - 10/07/14 11:53 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: johnso2.6]
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 Originally Posted By: Johnso26
Fuck.

Will recruit doctor who is breaking bad.


A good starter steroid is the pill Oral Turinabol. It's the "safest" steroid you can probably take. Slow gains but very high quality, lean muscle.
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you guys are totally gonna be like "Oh chef can you make ME a coyote hoody?!" and I'm gonna be like
let me check that thread and see who called my nephew a hick

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#7900230 - 10/07/14 11:58 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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Good info. Thanks.
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#7900237 - 10/07/14 12:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting.
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#7900248 - 10/07/14 12:04 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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 Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone
I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting.


Safest and cleanest are two different things. The side effects for Turinabol are extremely low compared to others.
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#7900252 - 10/07/14 12:05 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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 Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone
I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting.


Normally I agree. Orals are terrible. But Turinabol has some of the lowest side effects of all steroids, injectables included. Turinabol is the anabolic steroid that was in many of those over-the-counter "pro-hormones" before they were made illegal.
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you guys are totally gonna be like "Oh chef can you make ME a coyote hoody?!" and I'm gonna be like
let me check that thread and see who called my nephew a hick

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#7900254 - 10/07/14 12:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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Gotcha, gotcha. Thanks for dropping some knowledge!
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#7900284 - 10/07/14 12:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
It's not that complicated. Guys on certain forums have great stacks laid out for you to follow if you want.


 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs


A good starter steroid is the pill Oral Turinabol. It's the "safest" steroid you can probably take. Slow gains but very high quality, lean muscle.


links for both pls.
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#7900285 - 10/07/14 12:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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Also, Turinabol + magic weight loss nut = fucking unstoppable.

Who is going to test that theory with me?
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#7900287 - 10/07/14 12:21 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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Don't forget the Clen.
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#7900290 - 10/07/14 12:25 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids?
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#7900292 - 10/07/14 12:26 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids?


Why? Ares proved that isn't needed.
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#7900293 - 10/07/14 12:28 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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Did he? I have no idea what the ares reference is about. I've never even seen him.
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#7900303 - 10/07/14 12:30 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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 Originally Posted By: President Dope!

links for both pls.




http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex
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you guys are totally gonna be like "Oh chef can you make ME a coyote hoody?!" and I'm gonna be like
let me check that thread and see who called my nephew a hick

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#7900307 - 10/07/14 12:32 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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Ares got swole doe \:\|
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#7900309 - 10/07/14 12:34 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Seacrest, OUT!]
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 Originally Posted By: President Dope!
 Originally Posted By: Flipped
Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids?


Why? Ares proved that isn't needed.


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#7900315 - 10/07/14 12:37 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: johnso2.6]
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I DID NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO POST A PICTURE OF ME!!!! NOW WHERE IS MY PROTEIN SHAKE MADE OF BABIES!!!!?!!! RAAAAWWWWWRRRRR!!!!!!!!
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#7900327 - 10/07/14 12:43 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: RonnieColeman]
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omg
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#7900334 - 10/07/14 12:45 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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wtf
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#7900338 - 10/07/14 12:46 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
 Originally Posted By: President Dope!

links for both pls.




http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex


Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off?

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#7900339 - 10/07/14 12:46 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 98V-TeC]
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#7900347 - 10/07/14 12:52 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
 Originally Posted By: President Dope!

links for both pls.




http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex


Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off?


I'm sure, like all roids, you will keep some if you maintain properly.
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