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#5026873 - 09/11/10 12:34 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Moof]
Mantis Mantis Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/21/04 Posts: 24064 Loc: Valley of the Sun	Soarers weren't available in the U.S..... only the SC300/400. _________________________
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#5026955 - 09/11/10 02:00 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Mantis]
Euphoricuck Euphoricuck Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 92703 Loc: Canadistan	you can get soarers here... (jdm import of course) i usually see a few a year. _________________________
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#5026963 - 09/11/10 02:28 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Moof]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	Originally Posted By: Moof Again, surf for Toyota Soarers. Cheaper, and better chances of finding 5mt. ..Unfortunately I cannot locate one single example in Arizona for you They aren't common here in the states at all. That'd be an option if they existed here in masses but any here are imported and thus have the imported rhd premium on them. And Canadia is apparently easier but from what i gather it's not worth trying to import any jdm vehicle myself and pay all the fees and parts to make it emissions legal especially when I'm trying to keep this super low budget. _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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#5027075 - 09/11/10 07:59 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
Moof Moof Mounts the residents Post Master Supreme Registered: 08/17/02 Posts: 29389 Loc: Canadia	Well that sucks... There's a shit-ton of Soarers in/around BC. One in good condition (50,000 miles) usually runs about 7K $CDN _________________________
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#5027291 - 09/11/10 11:53 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Moof]
ReplicaR ReplicaR Post Master Sr Registered: 05/26/06 Posts: 7124 Loc: E.E.B.	Just get an SC300, slap a 1500 dollar turbo kit on it, tune it and call it a day. Even the auto will handle 450whp. _________________________ '94 Mustang GT Acceleration.... $\:$$ -------+-- $\:$$ Handling......... $\:$$ -------+-- $\:$$ Speed............ $\:$$ ------+--- $\:$$
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#5027323 - 09/11/10 12:13 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 I posted in a thread in OT these two cars as examples of what I'll likely end up getting $5300 http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/1890258625.html $6500 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/1940139593.html Oooh, I like that $6500 Turbo. It has a lot of stuff done that will save you the trouble and cash. It should be a high 12/low 13 second 106-108 mph car if it's running right. I'm not crazy about the JDM motor swap, but it shouldn't be a problem; most USDM to JDM parts are interchangeable. The new tranny, clutch, and turbo are a huge bonuses. As is the sunroof. I hated my t-tops and it's very hard to find a Turbo w/o t-tops. Hardtop is the dream; sunroof is good; t-tops suck IMO.
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#5027337 - 09/11/10 12:23 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
SamuraiSam SamuraiSam Post Master Sr Registered: 07/29/02 Posts: 8828 Loc: Bellingham, WA	Yeah, the t-tops are a pain, and leak. Why don't you like the Japanese sourced engine? _________________________ Working and living the dream in post-prohibition Washington State
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#5027347 - 09/11/10 12:28 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SamuraiSam]
NOT spotch... NOT spotch... Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/25/00 Posts: 57253	[quote]Oooh, I like that $6500 Turbo. It has a lot of stuff done that will save you the trouble and cash. It should be a high 12/low 13 second 106-108 mph car if it's running right. I'm not crazy about the JDM motor swap, but it shouldn't be a problem; most USDM to JDM parts are interchangeable. The new tranny, clutch, and turbo are a huge bonuses. As is the sunroof. I hated my t-tops and it's very hard to find a Turbo w/o t-tops. Hardtop is the dream; sunroof is good; t-tops suck IMO.[/img] jumps up and down how about a base model, since it's a project that's going to be worked over extensively and should provide a cheaper starting point!?!?! $\:\)$ _________________________ "On the street where there is no lap timer, feel is all that matters" - scootergeek "A bunch of nerdy douchebags chasing a ghost." -Ob1 on bitcoin
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#5027355 - 09/11/10 12:32 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SamuraiSam]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	Performance is the same, no worries there. It just means someone would have had to do a clean engine swap. There are plenty of hack swaps out there, and there are lots of clean swaps. I'd stay far away from most NA to Turbo conversions. Again, it can be done right, but most people slap it together. This car claims to be an original Turbo car, so that makes it 100X simpler.
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#5027367 - 09/11/10 12:39 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: NOT spotch...]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	Originally Posted By: spotch jumps up and down how about a base model, since it's a project that's going to be worked over extensively and should provide a cheaper starting point!?!?! $\:\)$ I'm lazy and cheap. $6500 for a car that likely runs 12's and has new everything (engine, tranny, clutch, turbo, IC, wheels, tires, paint?) is a win in my book. There will still be plenty of weekend wrenching to do on this car. An NA car with as clean of an interior and exterior will cost $4k. There's no way you get an NA car as fast for an additional $2500.
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#5027657 - 09/11/10 05:15 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
normaspirated normaspirated Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/04/99 Posts: 22342 Loc: Nevada	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 Well it's definitely going to be an SC or MR2. I'm just going to sit and wait for one that I like to pop up in Tucson or Phoenix so I don't waste 8 hrs driving to LA to find it's a pile of shit. I posted in a thread in OT these two cars as examples of what I'll likely end up getting $5300 http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/1890258625.html $6500 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/1940139593.html Just a little patience and save a little more cash. I wish I could go pick on of those up today but in the past 4 months I've bought a brand new truck, a boat, and a camping trailer so my fun-funds are mostly depleted. I'm itching to get something today, but I realize it's best for me to wait save more, and get something better. Damn that's a nice price. My cousin also has a white sc300. It's a '97 with the revised tail lamps, but it's a 5-spd. Kinda paid out of the ass for it, too. $11k, 70k miles back in '04 or '05. Funny that you're looking for an mr2. My other cousin (sc300 boy's brother) had a '93 silver w/ black t-tops, chrome supra turbo wheels, and a 3rd gen 3s-gte w/ ct20b turbo for a month. Shit was quick. Ran 12's. Too bad it caught on fire in a best buy parking lot. Sucks. Oh well. Good luck!
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#5028467 - 09/12/10 10:13 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Euphoricuck]
LNXGUY LNXGUY Post Master Supreme Registered: 08/06/00 Posts: 108678 Loc: Barrie, Ont,	Originally Posted By: Euphoric you can get soarers here... (jdm import of course) i usually see a few a year. I saw a hot as fuck FD here in Barrie and thought 'Holy shit a chick is driving it?!??!!' ...........until I realized it was RHD _________________________ -Bill The GN would OWN you, your children and your children's children. Left foot, right foot, just keep moving!!! -Jeffrey P. Murphy
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#5029512 - 09/12/10 11:25 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: I am Jack's VR6]
cliff st-clair cliff st-clair Post Master Sr Registered: 01/03/00 Posts: 6376 Loc: Queens Village, NY	Originally Posted By: I am Jack's VR6 Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested. I see this, but all I can think of is this... Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 Miatas are out, because I'm not man enough to drive one sorry, I just don't like them because other dudes won't approve and I know they'd get suggested because they are the best option in my price range. I'd rather blow head gaskets and lots of dudes behind closed doors instead. Oh puhlease... He's not the only one that doesn't like Miatas. I don't like them either, never have and never will. Yes, I've driven them and know they are fun to drive, but to me their styling is weak and their motors are weak. _________________________ 03' 350z 04' Mazda 3 s
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#5029713 - 09/13/10 05:26 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cliff st-clair]
killerbeeVR6 killerbeeVR6 Post Master Supreme Registered: 10/20/00 Posts: 54094 Loc: Detox	uh, this? http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1946905081.html
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#5032045 - 09/14/10 02:17 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
pumpkin escobar pumpkin escobar Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/27/01 Posts: 33881 Loc: 603	Originally Posted By: g96nt Volvo + SBC = WIN _________________________
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#5070317 - 09/30/10 12:49 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: pumpkin escobar]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	No SC300 so now I gotta figure out what to do with my 19" Professors But really it's nothing I'd expect you guys to get excited about. 91 N/A has rod knock needs paint, but nearly perfect interior, straight body, and clear title. When I saw the interior I was sold. Paid $1200. Probably buying a 3sgte swap once the professors are sold. It's gonna take a while to get it where I want it but that's what I wanted, a project. _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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#5070321 - 09/30/10 12:52 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
Euphoricuck Euphoricuck Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 92703 Loc: Canadistan	LSx now! _________________________
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#5072701 - 09/30/10 09:35 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Euphoricuck]
theLoon theLoon Post Master Sr Registered: 01/06/03 Posts: 3275 Loc: MN	Man, I think you made a great choice. Proven platform for modding, with exactly the right parts intact, and the wrong parts broken. And plenty of money leftover for mawds. Sweet. _________________________ I'm a badge whore
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#5072741 - 09/30/10 10:01 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: theLoon]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	Fun. Get a GenIII 3S-GTE if you're thinking basic mods, 300+ whp, and mid-12's. If that's not fast enough, you can get a cheaper GenII motor and build the shit out of it. Power is all in the cylinder head in these cars. The OEM short block is pretty damn stout with just the addition of forged pistons. A couple of years ago, you could still buy a brand new 3S-GTE short block from Toyota for very reasonable money.
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#5072987 - 10/01/10 01:33 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: ]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	Well I got an offer on my wheels tonight. If the dude actually comes through (who knows. fucking craigslist) I'll probably be ordering a GENIII swap from EMS Powered in the next week unless someone has a different importer to suggest. I've been reading about mr2 stuff like crazy all day. It's all new to me so there's a lot to take in. I'm gonna go crazy ordering shit. lol. _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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#5073055 - 10/01/10 03:18 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
B15Sentra B15Sentra Post Master Sr Registered: 09/25/01 Posts: 6366 Loc: Bay Area, CA	Congrats! Make sure to keep us updated on the progress (with lots of pics) :D.
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#5073329 - 10/01/10 09:21 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: B15Sentra ]
NOT spotch... NOT spotch... Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/25/00 Posts: 57253	SHOULDA GOT A 5.OH!!! lol seriously though, awesome car $\:\)$ _________________________ "On the street where there is no lap timer, feel is all that matters" - scootergeek "A bunch of nerdy douchebags chasing a ghost." -Ob1 on bitcoin
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#5074297 - 10/01/10 02:34 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
SamuraiSam SamuraiSam Post Master Sr Registered: 07/29/02 Posts: 8828 Loc: Bellingham, WA	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 Well I got an offer on my wheels tonight. If the dude actually comes through (who knows. fucking craigslist) I'll probably be ordering a GENIII swap from EMS Powered in the next week unless someone has a different importer to suggest. I've been reading about mr2 stuff like crazy all day. It's all new to me so there's a lot to take in. I'm gonna go crazy ordering shit. lol. Well as with any project when something's new you probably shouldn't go crazy ordering shit right off the bat. What kind of price are you getting on the Gen III swap? My room mate got his (IIRC) from EO Performance. PETC on MR2board if you have any questions. His MR2 makes 270/270: Gen III engine, intake, exhaust, fuel pump. _________________________ Working and living the dream in post-prohibition Washington State
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#5074437 - 10/01/10 03:23 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SamuraiSam]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	$2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage. Quote: * JDM Gen3 3SGTE Engine * Gen3 ECU * Gen3 MAP sensor * Coolant neck and all water temp sensors * Knock sensor, oil pressure sensor * Uncut engine harness * JDM Gen3 CT20b turbo * Exhaust manifold * Intake manifold * Throttle body * Gen3 540cc fuel injectors and fuel rail * Fuel injector coil packs * Coil/ignitor * Alternator & brackets * A/C compressor * Upper and lower oil/pan * Miscellaneous hoses, sensors, and brackets * And all other parts related to the motor (if you have questions about a specific part please call or email us) * FREE SHIPPING to anywhere in the 48 United States _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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#5074482 - 10/01/10 03:38 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
NOT spotch... NOT spotch... Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/25/00 Posts: 57253	whoa wait a second, you got a base model to do a swap with!?! THAT WAS MY FUCKING SUGGESTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. WOW! No one ever listens to my car advice. <3 $\:D$ _________________________ "On the street where there is no lap timer, feel is all that matters" - scootergeek "A bunch of nerdy douchebags chasing a ghost." -Ob1 on bitcoin
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#5074634 - 10/01/10 04:43 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
Euphoricuck Euphoricuck Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 92703 Loc: Canadistan	Originally Posted By: cacasesi The OEM short block is pretty damn stout with just the addition of forged pistons. you could say that for just about anything $;\)$ _________________________
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#5074746 - 10/01/10 05:43 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: ]
hustler hustler Post Master Sr Registered: 01/09/00 Posts: 6095 Loc: Seattle, WA	Nice grab, I wanted one of these back in the day, will be a fun project!
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#5075788 - 10/02/10 12:44 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: cacasesi The OEM short block is pretty damn stout with just the addition of forged pistons. you could say that for just about anything $;\)$ Uh, some cars have weak connecting rods and stout pistons (VW). Originally Posted By: baudchaser interesting...what else is different on the base model? Anything that can't be easily fixed....like say....steering ratio? Hated how the n/a fc3s was different than the turbo...why??? Brakes are the biggest weaksauce problem on the NA cars. Steering ratio is the same I think... it's only different between manual racks and power assisted racks. Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 $2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage. Again, just make sure 300ish whp is where you want to be, otherwise your money is better spent on a GenII with a built head. The GenIII block has failed more often than the GenII. I can't recall any GenII block failures. What are you doing for a transmission?
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#5076177 - 10/02/10 05:52 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 $2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage. Again, just make sure 300ish whp is where you want to be, otherwise your money is better spent on a GenII with a built head. The GenIII block has failed more often than the GenII. I can't recall any GenII block failures. What are you doing for a transmission? [/quote] Yeah I noticed after I posted that a tranny isn't listed in there. He wants like 2950 for the swap with jdm LSD tranny. I found some importers through ebay that kill that price. Aside from where to buy I'm still not 100% sure what I want to do. I'm leaning towards buying the swap, doing pistons, rods and 272s. It'll be build kinda like my DSM was with that stuff. But I'm still reading and seeing if it'd be worth doing that stuff and what kind of boost I can push through it or what turbos the sw20 guys like to run. Right now it's just all ideas and research. _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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#5077502 - 10/03/10 07:16 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: MIGHTYWhiteDSM520]
cacasesi cacasesi Say my name! Post Master Supreme Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 11488	If you're going to swap the turbo, drop in cams, and build the engine, you should just buy a GenII. There's no point in paying extra for the GenIII. People buy GenIII's because they come with a bigger turbo, hotter cams, and lower compression pistons. They have a better intake manifold too, but that's easily fixed. They also have better engine management and bigger injectors. Either way, it sounds like you intend to exceed the limits of those too. What is your hp or acceleration goal for this car?
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#5079607 - 10/04/10 04:45 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 MIGHTYWhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 14680	Well I just bought a Gen2 swap for $1500 shipped. There was another one that looked a little cleaner but there was some orange RTV on the tranny so I passed. We'll see how this one looks when I get it I guess. I'm gonna wait a bit to order any parts for it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...RK%3AMEWNX%3AIT And to answer your question on my goals, I sat here for 15 minutes trying to convince myself I knew where I was going, but I really don't have HP numbers or anything in my head. I think I'll just build it up and live with the stock kit for a bit. In a while once I get paint/suspension/wheels done I can start to seriously consider turbo kits/fuel/and management. _________________________ MKVI Golf R
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