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#2687507 - 06/01/08 01:11 AM Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S
SDcali Offline
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Well I'm looking to get a 08' Civic Si Sedan. And I just have a question. I know
that both the 08' Si and the 05' Type S both have a K20 engine. I was just
wondering which one is better and what are the differences? Thanks

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#2687649 - 06/01/08 03:07 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: SDcali]
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The Si is drive by wire, while I believe the RSX-S isn't. I don't know all the other minor shit but if you google it you should find plenty of tech writeups.
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#2687657 - 06/01/08 03:27 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: spotch...]
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SI
LSD
K20Z3
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RSX
No LSD
K20Z1
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Less weight
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#2687674 - 06/01/08 03:44 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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Doesn't the Z3 have a slightly different cam than the Z1? It seems like when the Si came out I read an article about how the Si engine was basically a hodgepodge of a few different K20s, with parts from the american RSX-S as well as parts from other K20s overseas.
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#2687896 - 06/01/08 09:25 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: spotch...]
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 Originally Posted By: spotch
Doesn't the Z3 have a slightly different cam than the Z1? It seems like when the Si came out I read an article about how the Si engine was basically a hodgepodge of a few different K20s, with parts from the american RSX-S as well as parts from other K20s overseas.


yes hence the different engine code and HP ratings.

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#2688268 - 06/01/08 12:06 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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Doesn't the new Si have better front suspension geometry or something too? Or am i thinking of the EP just having really bad geometry?
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#2688305 - 06/01/08 12:19 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: neonmike22]
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If you had to pick between the two which engine is better the K20Z1 or K20Z3?
I'm leaning towards the K20Z3 because it's a newer engine. I just want to
see you guy's opinion!

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#2688312 - 06/01/08 12:20 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: SDcali]
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 Originally Posted By: SDcali
If you had to pick between the two which engine is better the K20Z1 or K20Z3?
I'm leaning towards the K20Z3 because it's a newer engine. I just want to
see you guy's opinion!


Both are near identical once you start modifing them.

I would chose the Z1 though because I dont like the spaceship cockpit in the SI

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#2688395 - 06/01/08 12:49 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: neonmike22]
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Indeed, steering arms are located lower on the strut on the FG than the DC5. Also, I believe the FG's rear suspension geometry has been improved on, a big change being a separate spring and shock setup.
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#2688719 - 06/01/08 03:22 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: Noob4Life]
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Hondata is cheaper on the 02-04 Type-S
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#2688787 - 06/01/08 03:54 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: doshoru]
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 Originally Posted By: baudchaser
Hondata is cheaper on the 02-04 Type-S


and with K-Pro the A2 makes more power \:D

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#2689027 - 06/01/08 05:37 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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Well after thinking about it I think I could make my car that I have now last
until I'm out of college in three years -_-. I was just wondering if anyone
knew what honda's might be coming around that time "2010-2011" ?!

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#2689452 - 06/01/08 08:46 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: SDcali]
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I just had the most awesome bbq spareribs. Cooked for 7 hours, with homemade coleslaw and baked potato skins. That shit was ridiculous good.
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#2689686 - 06/01/08 10:05 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: theLoon]
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ess two kay for lyfe.

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#2689712 - 06/01/08 10:14 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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LSD > Non spaceship dash
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#2690138 - 06/02/08 12:22 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
LSD > Non spaceship dash


600$ LSD > Space ship dash

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#2690152 - 06/02/08 12:35 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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If you're talking sedan vs hatch that's a tossup on utility (although I think I'd lean sedan) but I prefer the interior/exterior of the RSX to that of the Si. I like the LSD and the improved suspension of the Si (the funky rear suspension the rsx/ep hatch always bothered me) but I don't really see you going wrong with either car.
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#2690196 - 06/02/08 01:06 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: spotch...]
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Yeah I like the RSX-s better but the Si is slightly more car for the money. LSD, better handling, room for 5 if you get the four door. If it wasn't for the funky interior styling I'd be completely sold on it.
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#2692715 - 06/02/08 06:53 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
Yeah I like the RSX-s better but the Si is slightly more car for the money. LSD, better handling, room for 5 if you get the four door. If it wasn't for the funky exterior styling I'd be completely sold on it.


Fixed. Can't quite talk myself into loving the lines on this car. An HFP kit spices it up just a tad though.

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#2693272 - 06/02/08 09:41 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: cliff st-clair]
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its more functional interior than mad tyte dash molestation. Materials are still great imo but the ergonomics of the whole set up is really good and youll notice it once you spend some time behind the wheel.

Si is a better overall car than an rsx imo. exterior looks is a toss up between the two.
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#2693618 - 06/03/08 12:13 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: Design]
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 Originally Posted By: Design
 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
Yeah I like the RSX-s better but the Si is slightly more car for the money. LSD, better handling, room for 5 if you get the four door. If it wasn't for the funky exterior styling I'd be completely sold on it.


Fixed. Can't quite talk myself into loving the lines on this car. An HFP kit spices it up just a tad though.





The exterior styling is not nearly as bad as the interior imo.

But I think the rsx is much better looking, but yeah...that's subjective.
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#2694333 - 06/03/08 10:02 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: SDcali]
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What are the price differences that you are seeing between the two?
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#2715694 - 06/10/08 09:58 AM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: FCobra94]
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I'd wait until the 09's hit the lots and then grab an 08. I'd take a white sedan with the honda front lip and call it a day. \:\)
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#8984587 - 03/26/17 08:47 PM Re: Difference between 08' Si vs 05 RSX Type S [Re: blueSIguy]
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