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#2569110 - 04/22/08 09:58 PM Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved)
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So I built a turbo kit thanks to the FAQ (thanks Adam). I got me a p28 ECU and I'm getting it chipped and a simple base map installed till I get to my local tuner to get it done right on the dyno. I was reading that an ECU basemap program includes * 2 step launch control (A revlimit at 0 mph for launching purposes). Now here's my question with this 2 step launch control I saw this on my friends civic that is also turboed. It had a MSD ignition and 2 step module installed. His civic would release a shot of flames when he bounced off the rev limiter. Being I'm in the city and really can't afford the police to notice any flames coming from my exhaust. Should this option for my ECU basemap program be skipped to avoid the flame issue and/or is this only with MSD ignition w/ 2step module installed? I apologize if this is a retarded question I just wanted to make sure before I get this ECU programmed.

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#2569257 - 04/22/08 10:38 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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Don't drive your car on a basemap. Entering boost is a particularly bad idea, even if the car isn't loaded (IE: 2 step). Your tuner will set all of those parameters. That basemap isn't worth shit, it's fucking useless and MAY get you to the tuner safely depending on how much of an asshole you are with the throttle.


But... since you have no idea what you are doing, if anything isn't 100% perfect your shit could blow up while you drive it around. Even if you never enter boost.
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#2569401 - 04/22/08 11:17 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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i'm confused.

you have a basemap... but it has a 2step? why the fuck would your basemap have 2step enabled? like knowitall said, a basemap is basically so you can start the car, drive it on a trailer, and take it to the tuner to use as a start point to tune from. not really supposed to be driving around on it, and you're sure as fuck not supposed to be doing WOT launches with it.

if you don't do a WOT launch, or sit at WOT with the clutch in, your 2step won't engage.
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#2570090 - 04/23/08 07:19 AM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Knowitall.
Don't drive your car on a basemap. Entering boost is a particularly bad idea, even if the car isn't loaded (IE: 2 step). Your tuner will set all of those parameters. That basemap isn't worth shit, it's fucking useless and MAY get you to the tuner safely depending on how much of an asshole you are with the throttle.


But... since you have no idea what you are doing, if anything isn't 100% perfect your shit could blow up while you drive it around. Even if you never enter boost.


Thank you Mr. but as I recall I said I was going to get and ECU chipped and never mentioned I was driving the car around. I do happen to know a little bit about turbo by reading the FAQ. As for the question was will a 2step launch program on a ECU have the same effects as the MSD 2 step module.The cars current position is on a flat bed waiting for my ECU to get back. Then it's being taken to the tuner. All I really needed was a chip since the ECU is a virgin p28. Maybe this should clear up the air a bit.
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#2570091 - 04/23/08 07:19 AM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: cua0]
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i'm confused.

you have a basemap... but it has a 2step? why the fuck would your basemap have 2step enabled? like knowitall said, a basemap is basically so you can start the car, drive it on a trailer, and take it to the tuner to use as a start point to tune from. not really supposed to be driving around on it, and you're sure as fuck not supposed to be doing WOT launches with it.

if you don't do a WOT launch, or sit at WOT with the clutch in, your 2step won't engage.


Read what I posted carefully please then comment thanks.
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#2570805 - 04/23/08 11:10 AM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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if you don't do a WOT launch, or sit at WOT with the clutch in, your 2step won't engage.
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#2571177 - 04/23/08 12:30 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Knowitall.
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if you don't do a WOT launch, or sit at WOT with the clutch in, your 2step won't engage.


Thanks I pretty much understand that part of it engaging and when it should suppose to. My main question is being I live in NYC and NYPD doesn't like imports very much. When I do get my car and everything is tuned by a tuner. Will this function cause my car to shoot flames from my exhaust simple answer yes / no. Cause if it is I will ask for the 2 step launch control feature to be ignore and not programmed.


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#2571511 - 04/23/08 01:44 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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Are you saying that you are so unaware when you are driving that you may accidentally activate your launch control?
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#2571782 - 04/23/08 02:46 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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Will this function cause my car to shoot flames from my exhaust simple answer yes / no. [/quote]
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#2572951 - 04/23/08 07:23 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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shouldn't. at least my car doesn't
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#2573209 - 04/23/08 08:49 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: hammeredsi]
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haha wow...


if you're not sitting there at wide open throttle with the clutch in, it won't engage the 2step... what fucking difference does it make if it shoots flames or not?

the 2step functions much the same as the rev limiter does, do you drive around rapping off the rev limiter at each shift? because if you do, maybe it's your driving habits you should be modifying not your car.

without knowing your tune/fuel/exhaust setups it's pretty much impossible to say whether it'd shoot flames if you were to do it. could be 50/50.

i don't say this often, or maybe i say it too often, but your question sucks, and moreover your attitude sucks.
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#2575046 - 04/24/08 10:15 AM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: cua0]
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+1 on reading the faq
+1 on tuning
+1 on trailering it


The 2step is very simple to enable/disable via your tuner. Each car is different and may or may not shoot flames. IF you are worried, don't be using the 2step in the city to impress your friends @ a light.

Racing in town is uber gh3y.

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#2575594 - 04/24/08 12:27 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: SiAdam]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
+1 on reading the FAQ
+1 on tuning
+1 on tailoring it


The 2step is very simple to enable/disable via your tuner. Each car is different and may or may not shoot flames. IF you are worried, don't be using the 2step in the city to impress your friends @ a light.

Racing in town is uber gh3y.

: Cool:


Thanks yeah I don't plan on racing in town or at a light I'm 28 to mature for that. I plan on entering auto-x and was just inquiring on the flames because I know out by me we have cops who attend auto-x events to see certain cars and how they perform. We even have a few cops auto-Xing them selves and to be dicks if you do better then them they will wait to they get back on shift and look for you for a stupid ticket like modified exhaust or some stupid shit like unsafe start. Telling you man the NYPD needs to raise the salary cause these cops are getting ridiculous with tickets trying to make a quota so they can rank up and get their. $2.00 raise lol
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#2575615 - 04/24/08 12:32 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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Thank you all for the comments and remarks.
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#2578044 - 04/25/08 12:26 AM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: dont_triNYC]
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 Originally Posted By: dont_triNYC
 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
+1 on reading the FAQ
+1 on tuning
+1 on tailoring it


The 2step is very simple to enable/disable via your tuner. Each car is different and may or may not shoot flames. IF you are worried, don't be using the 2step in the city to impress your friends @ a light.

Racing in town is uber gh3y.

: Cool:


Thanks yeah I don't plan on racing in town or at a light I'm 28 to mature for that. I plan on entering auto-x and was just inquiring on the flames because I know out by me we have cops who attend auto-x events to see certain cars and how they perform. We even have a few cops auto-Xing them selves and to be dicks if you do better then them they will wait to they get back on shift and look for you for a stupid ticket like modified exhaust or some stupid shit like unsafe start. Telling you man the NYPD needs to raise the salary cause these cops are getting ridiculous with tickets trying to make a quota so they can rank up and get their. $2.00 raise lol


If that is actually true, I feel sorry for you.

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#2580653 - 04/25/08 06:55 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: SiAdam]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
 Originally Posted By: dont_triNYC
 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
+1 on reading the FAQ
+1 on tuning
+1 on tailoring it


The 2step is very simple to enable/disable via your tuner. Each car is different and may or may not shoot flames. IF you are worried, don't be using the 2step in the city to impress your friends @ a light.

Racing in town is uber gh3y.

: Cool:


Thanks yeah I don't plan on racing in town or at a light I'm 28 to mature for that. I plan on entering auto-x and was just inquiring on the flames because I know out by me we have cops who attend auto-x events to see certain cars and how they perform. We even have a few cops auto-Xing them selves and to be dicks if you do better then them they will wait to they get back on shift and look for you for a stupid ticket like modified exhaust or some stupid shit like unsafe start. Telling you man the NYPD needs to raise the salary cause these cops are getting ridiculous with tickets trying to make a quota so they can rank up and get their. $2.00 raise lol


If that is actually true, I feel sorry for you.



It's not.

If you are in a secluded or industrial area with a gathering of modified cars then you are going to get harassed. If you are in a buisness's parking lot with a gathering of modified cars you are going to get harassed. If you drive like an idiot, you are going to get harassed. If your car is ungodly loud you're going to get harassed. Then there might be the occasional "lets pull him over for the hell of it" police officer but even then are they really pulling you over for no reason? There must be something on the car they can see to make them stop and ticket you.

If your worried about flames shooting from your tailpipe because of the 2 step then it only leads me to believe that you plan on launching the car hard and since police are your concern, then your "28 too mature for that" statement contradicts itself.
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#2581017 - 04/25/08 09:10 PM Re: Question regarding ECU chipped (2 step involved) [Re: AllMyTSi]
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 Originally Posted By: AllMyTSi
 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
 Originally Posted By: dont_triNYC
 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
+1 on reading the FAQ
+1 on tuning
+1 on tailoring it


The 2step is very simple to enable/disable via your tuner. Each car is different and may or may not shoot flames. IF you are worried, don't be using the 2step in the city to impress your friends @ a light.

Racing in town is uber gh3y.

: Cool:


Thanks yeah I don't plan on racing in town or at a light I'm 28 to mature for that. I plan on entering auto-x and was just inquiring on the flames because I know out by me we have cops who attend auto-x events to see certain cars and how they perform. We even have a few cops auto-Xing them selves and to be dicks if you do better then them they will wait to they get back on shift and look for you for a stupid ticket like modified exhaust or some stupid shit like unsafe start. Telling you man the NYPD needs to raise the salary cause these cops are getting ridiculous with tickets trying to make a quota so they can rank up and get their. $2.00 raise lol


If that is actually true, I feel sorry for you.



It's not.

If you are in a secluded or industrial area with a gathering of modified cars then you are going to get harassed. If you are in a buisness's parking lot with a gathering of modified cars you are going to get harassed. If you drive like an idiot, you are going to get harassed. If your car is ungodly loud you're going to get harassed. Then there might be the occasional "lets pull him over for the hell of it" police officer but even then are they really pulling you over for no reason? There must be something on the car they can see to make them stop and ticket you.

If your worried about flames shooting from your tailpipe because of the 2 step then it only leads me to believe that you plan on launching the car hard and since police are your concern, then your "28 too mature for that" statement contradicts itself.


Thanks for the info I will keep that in mind.
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