(Post Master Jr)

11/12/12 08:27 AM

New drive clean test?

So it looks like we have to do an OBD test now rather than the current tailpipe sniff. This is going to suck for the Collola we have that has a check engine light on.

Act fast on Drive Clean loophole

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 08:36 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

This is how its done in Cali.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 08:38 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

$;\)$
http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php?...rue#Post6429684

imo its easier to keep everything happy with just an odb scan. You cant fake a tailpipe reading.... ah well good for modded cars with happy oem computers.
not so much if you are running an aftermarket computer.

They need to ditch this scam already.

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 08:52 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

I've been reading that the OBD scan is going to be a bit PITA. I don't know a ton about the systems, but it appears they're pretty damn intelligent, and passing won't be as easy as hitting the "reset codes" button on your scanner and driving into the facility:

http://www.wheels.ca/news/get-cracking-on-e-test-to-avoid-a-retest/

Quote:

Further, the new test checks the status of the self-tests, also known as monitors. If the monitor self-tests haven’t been successfully completed, a Drive Clean fail will ensue. Erasing the on-board computer memory with a scan tool or by disconnecting the battery will clear all the monitors and again yield an automatic Drive Clean failure.

Once cleared, it could take two to four days of combined city and highway driving to allow the monitors to complete self-tests on most well-running vehicles. So, don’t wait until the last moment to get your car e-tested. Should your vehicle fail, it may take several days to complete the necessary repairs and get the monitors ready for a retest.

Sounds like someone can make some good money learning how to, ahem, handle OBD-II systems from their garage. $;\)$

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 09:03 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

as long as youve been driving around with the cel off for a while itll be fine.

also other ways to see the readiness. Some scanners do it.

torque can do it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMwr2730JA

and its not all that hard to make those things happy $;\)$

Violent Spectre

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 09:05 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Such a bullshit system. One issue I have is most vehicles have a 2-trip logic system, meaning it has to see the same issue twice before triggering a hard code. Apparently the drive clean test will flag rediness or soft codes. Even if there isn't a faulty componant you could still fail.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 10:16 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

My ECU is flash to Stage 2, I wonder if I will pass the e-test...hmmm

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 10:21 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

This will be interesting seeing that I've got zero emissions shit on the car

I'm sure my tuner can fool all the monitors though.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 10:27 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: iamfob

My ECU is flash to Stage 2, I wonder if I will pass the e-test...hmmm

no problems at all

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 11:32 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

W T F...does this mean they are going to hook up the OBD on my 335d? THAT'S AWESOME!!!

There's a local tuner in Oakville that does ECU tunes and he can also ditch the DEF system...oh yeah!!!

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 12:27 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: LNXGUY

This will be interesting seeing that I've got zero emissions shit on the car

I'm sure my tuner can fool all the monitors though.

oh yeah for sure he can.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 01:24 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

W T F...does this mean they are going to hook up the OBD on my 335d? THAT'S AWESOME!!!

There's a local tuner in Oakville that does ECU tunes and he can also ditch the DEF system...oh yeah!!!

Neetronics in Oakville?

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 01:38 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

I think he meant HyperDuck Tuning

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 01:44 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

^^ Haha, is Adrian still around?

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 02:09 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Lmao hyperduck

(Post Master Sr)

11/12/12 03:44 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

what if i'm running with k-pro? would that give me any issues?

(Post Master Supreme)

11/12/12 04:06 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

No. its oem computer based.

Its if you are running a standalone that doesnt have obd protocol where youll have issues(aem ems,haltech etc)

(Post Master Sr)

11/13/12 08:42 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

My car passed with the new system ( RSX with bolt on mods race header with highflow cat) and Hondata reflash (pre kpro) $\:\)$

I wonder if my car will pass now since I'm on kpro

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 09:03 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

^^^

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 09:23 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

we just had ours done about a month ago on some work trucks (chevy astro) and they still put it on the rollers and stuck it up the bum bum

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:01 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Not all locations are doing the new test yet. AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.

and for the millionth time to the k pro homers
The KPro does not change the OBDII scan protocol

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:27 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.

WRONG! But thanks for playing.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:32 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: eddie_82

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.

WRONG! But thanks for playing.

for now ...actually..yes and if they phase out the rollers youll still have your tail pipe sniffed. It even states that in the article .Pls try again

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:42 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Not all locations are doing the new test yet. AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.

and for the millionth time to the k pro homers
The KPro does not change the OBDII scan protocol

Truck was a 2007 and its funny we went to 3 different locations to get the test done as some of them couldn't get the truck on the rollers with the NG tank under the rear and with the truck loaded down with tools. 2 were CT locations the other was an independent place.

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:42 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Originally Posted By: eddie_82

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.

WRONG! But thanks for playing.

for now ...actually..yes and if they phase out the rollers youll still have your tail pipe sniffed. It even states that in the article .Pls try again

Article doesn't say that at all.

Fact is: Jan 1, 2013 the roller test is dead.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:43 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

snail pipe sniffed for 97 and older. stfu

Quote:

Cars, vans and light trucks of model-years 1988 to 1997 aren’t OBD compatible and will receive a tailpipe test, similar to the current test.

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:44 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

snail pipe sniffed for 97 and older. stfu

Quote:

Cars, vans and light trucks of model-years 1988 to 1997 aren’t OBD compatible and will receive a tailpipe test, similar to the current test.

You said it goes on the rollers.

It doesn't.

Want me to quote it again?

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:54 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

well for the time being it still goes on the rollers.... and after.. they still get sniffed.

want me to come show you?

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:55 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

I don't want you sniffing my tailpipe.

Come January all the old cars get the two-speed idle test.

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:59 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

For anyone who needs more information about the new program:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment/en/category/drive_clean/STDPROD_080001

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 11:23 AM

Re: New drive clean test?

Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 12:06 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: LNXGUY

Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 12:12 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

will this work w/ my civic running on k-pro? running ihe with a 16g turbo here, y0.

dun h8.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 12:28 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

CT is still running the old way. As per my thread we already had on this topic Oil changers is the only confirmed place by anyone posting here that is doing the new test .

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 12:28 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: LNXGUY

Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)

Most places don't have an AWD dyno.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 01:53 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

CT is still running the old way. As per my thread we already had on this topic Oil changers is the only confirmed place by anyone posting here that is doing the new test .

yeps. lakeshore and leslie CT will have the new method end of year/beginning of 2013

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 05:16 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

Originally Posted By: LNXGUY

Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)

Most places don't have an AWD dyno.

Nope, two speed idle test for you! It really doesn't matter though, I talked to my tuner today and he actually laughed

I did a readiness test with Torque on my phone, car passes everything (except the gasser shit obviously)

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 08:03 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

CT is still running the old way. As per my thread we already had on this topic Oil changers is the only confirmed place by anyone posting here that is doing the new test .

Drive clean facility on Warden between 401 and Ellesmere has the new test.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 09:04 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

^ yup, took my s2k there for a e-test this year and they plugged in to test everything.

at least that shit gone done quicker than the roller test, but it doesn't tell you how poorly your car maybe doing - just a simple pass / fail.

(Poster)

11/13/12 09:21 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Anyone know if flashing D5 (transmission) will trip a fail? Seems like article is only referring to engine ecu?

(Post Master Supreme)

11/13/12 10:23 PM

Re: New drive clean test?

Originally Posted By: blcmagic

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

CT is still running the old way. As per my thread we already had on this topic Oil changers is the only confirmed place by anyone posting here that is doing the new test .

Drive clean facility on Warden between 401 and Ellesmere has the new test.

Nice

transmission shouldnt trip a fail it has nothing to do with the test.