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#10065670 - 05/29/21 11:09 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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https://www.680news.com/2021/05/29/healt...9-vaccine-lots/

This whole az mess has been a shit show. Damn. I won't even eat expired ketchup lol

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#10066911 - 06/02/21 11:25 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Got my 2nd moderna about 1 hour ago... So far doing good.
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#10067355 - 06/02/21 10:11 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Cee_mon]
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do you get a sore arm from the second shot like the first one?
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#10067666 - 06/03/21 12:41 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Sore arm plus body temp going up and down. Everything is sore and had a headache. Started getting better this morning at 10am.
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#10067896 - 06/03/21 07:06 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Cee_mon]
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well then....not looking forward to that lol
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#10067900 - 06/03/21 07:19 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Yea. Not fun. And timing for me was brutal as I was just off work for 2 weeks for new baby and went back to work today to a overbooked day at work. Try and keep the following day clear for rest.
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#10067916 - 06/03/21 08:00 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Cee_mon]
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I intend to blend/mix Astra with whatever 'other' one I can get .. Moderna or Pfizer, when the opportunity arrives.
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#10067943 - 06/03/21 09:41 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
I intend to blend/mix Astra with whatever 'other' one I can get .. Moderna or Pfizer, when the opportunity arrives.


likewise.

i’m going for the cocktail.
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#10068111 - 06/04/21 08:34 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: zaius]
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Update. Back to 100% this morning.
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#10068565 - 06/04/21 09:02 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Cee_mon]
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nice. good to hear.
thanks for the heads up

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#10069946 - 06/08/21 09:32 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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heard the second one hits, but its like and flip of a switch and all of a sudden you are back to 100% ?
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#10072186 - 06/10/21 10:42 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: f22b-dohc]
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Finding less covid calls over the past month or so... not even one a day on the average.

That said, had a couple this week with one of them dropping dead after calling for shortness of breath. He was 34 years old and diagnosed covid positive.
We did that entire cardiac arrest in the courtyard of a townhouse complex with people and their kids looking on (people really need to pull their kids back from that. it's not something for them to see.) IVs, drugs, tubes in throats, chest compressions...

We never got him back and he ended up dying. Sad story.
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#10072290 - 06/11/21 08:48 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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 Originally Posted By: 355-Si
Finding less covid calls over the past month or so... not even one a day on the average.

That said, had a couple this week with one of them dropping dead after calling for shortness of breath. He was 34 years old and diagnosed covid positive.
We did that entire cardiac arrest in the courtyard of a townhouse complex with people and their kids looking on (people really need to pull their kids back from that. it's not something for them to see.) IVs, drugs, tubes in throats, chest compressions...

We never got him back and he ended up dying. Sad story.


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I can't even imagine what to feel.

How do you cope w/ the loss of life on the job?
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#10072359 - 06/11/21 10:19 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: c2k]
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I guess you develop a hard shell on the outside.

But aside from that, having a solid network of friends and family (and a good partner) help immensely.
Very little phases me at this point (I don't think that's a good thing. Just means I'm probably psychologically fucked.)

Adult deaths aren't too tough... kids are always a little different but even then, the last bad kid call I did was for a 14 year old in cardiac arrest and we continued on with our day. That same day, we ended up doing 4 cardiac arrests (which is a personal record for us.)

The last time I was emotionally affected by a bad call was 6 years ago when I did a cardiac arrest for a 28 day old on a night shift. A couple of tears fell from the eyes when I walked out of the EMRG but when I got home after shift I actually cried (I had a 3 year old at home and when he ran out to see me in the morning to hug me, I just sorta lost it.)
Since then, the shell of armour has just gotten thicker.

Most of the job you just find a lot of humour in... sometimes (often) it's really dark and inappropriate. Very racist, bigoted, sexist, and everything that the left hates. But it lives between me and my partner in the ambulance and I think that's a large coping mechanism too. And it's not that we actually believe what we're saying, but it gets you through the 12 to 16 hour shifts.
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#10072559 - 06/11/21 03:01 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
 Originally Posted By: 355-Si
Finding less covid calls over the past month or so... not even one a day on the average.

That said, had a couple this week with one of them dropping dead after calling for shortness of breath. He was 34 years old and diagnosed covid positive.
We did that entire cardiac arrest in the courtyard of a townhouse complex with people and their kids looking on (people really need to pull their kids back from that. it's not something for them to see.) IVs, drugs, tubes in throats, chest compressions...

We never got him back and he ended up dying. Sad story.


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I can't even imagine what to feel.

How do you cope w/ the loss of life on the job?


he copes with it by farting on my desk
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#10072592 - 06/11/21 04:19 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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100% this
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#10072682 - 06/11/21 09:39 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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Tough gig man. Glad you can mentally cope with that. Kudos to you.
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#10073346 - 06/14/21 09:44 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Logged on at 8am today and booked my second shot for next week.
The original date was Aug 20.
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#10074282 - 06/15/21 12:58 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: porschetr]
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Halton site fucked me yesterday.

Halton site worked fine today like a charm, moved my date up from Aug 15 to July 14...

So for me: AZ dose1 + Pf dose2 mid-July ....
- Moderna shots can be had earlier if I wanted...
- mid-July is ~12 wk mark for me...

I'll keep checking the site.

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#10074659 - 06/15/21 10:18 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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Moderna for me next week. Delta variant is here....not going to wait.
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#10074823 - 06/16/21 11:18 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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"Experts say second shot of Moderna is 'as good as' Pfizer when mixing with AZ"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...th-az-1.5471400


"In clinical trials, Moderna showed 94.1 per cent efficacy in preventing COVID-19 two weeks after a second dose, comparable to Pfizer's 95 per cent. Both trials saw zero hospitalizations and deaths in those who did get COVID-19 after being vaccinated."

Though, that's likely with Moderna + Moderna vs Pfizer + Pfizer, and not my scenario of AZ + ___ ...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...ccine-1.5445347

 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
Moderna for me next week. Delta variant is here....not going to wait.


Edited by furball (06/16/21 01:04 PM)

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#10077538 - 06/22/21 09:19 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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Now they are mixing Moderna with Pfizer.
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There is currently an Ontario-wide shipment delay of the Pfizer (mRNA) vaccine. This means there will be some changes at the City of Toronto immunization clinics. Adults 18 years or older who have appointments at our clinics this week will receive the Moderna (mRNA) vaccine. Youth 12 to 17 years of age will still receive the Pfizer vaccine as it’s the only vaccine currently approved for that age group.



Got my 2nd shot yesterday morning and got Pfizer.
Just a slightly sore arm but nothing else like the first shot.

A buddy of mine who got the 2nd shot last night in TO and he got the Moderna instead of Pfizer.
He had the Pfizer as his first shot.
No side effects for him either.
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#10078457 - 06/23/21 12:43 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: porschetr]
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I will be declining if they try to mix mine. haven't booked my second appointment yet though, so hopefully I won't get my time wasted. they should really just say ahead of time instead of trying to trick people into mixing that don't want to mix. such a waste of peoples time and the spot could be used for someone that does want to mix instead of going to waste.
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#10078488 - 06/23/21 01:13 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Our oldest daughter had an appointment that was cancelled last minute. She was set to get the Pfizer shot which was recommended for young teens but the day of it was something else. They said they didn't know which one they would get until that day so I can see how there will be issues with mixing unless you try for a pop up location.
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#10078754 - 06/23/21 09:52 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Big Tasty]
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I do t know much about this, but I know Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA and within that, it would probably be ok to have one and then the other.

But AZ isn’t, so I can’t see the entire benefit of getting AZ as your first, and an mRNA as the second.

AZ x2 seems more sound.
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#10078756 - 06/23/21 09:58 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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I am going to be AZ+M tomorrow. Going to be wearing a mask regardless since the 3 yr old and 3 month old can't take anything. We will be pretty much outdoors people in the summer and playing it by ear in the fall.
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#10078810 - 06/24/21 06:31 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Big Tasty]
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Then get Mo and be done with it. A shot is a fucking shot, especially if it's the mRNA ones ...

I wanted a Pfizer just like everyone else, I wanted a shot that was local, that I didn't have to line up or drive 30+ mins for... I ended up with AZ in Mississauga.

Deal with it ...

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#10078811 - 06/24/21 06:32 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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AZ as the second shot is difficult at best -- there's 600k remaining in all of Canada on last count, and ... they were 'reserving' and/or saying they're preferred for a select group? (I can't remember what that select group was ... AZ first shot'ers?)
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#10078823 - 06/24/21 07:29 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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It's still advised not to mix UNLESS the only thing available is a different one. Because they want herd immunity as fast as possible.they basically saying take anything you can get for the sake of the whole. I can wait for supply to come back. Not a big deal to me. Everyone is in some mad rush because they wanna go eat at restaurants smh
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#10078932 - 06/24/21 10:00 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Aren't you the one that hasn't been out for over a year? I mean ...In that scenario, whyzit matter tho.

There's validity re: 'not mixing', and not because of brand awareness....

Apparently international community doesn't recognize it, so travel might be an issue to the snob countries

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US Food and Drug Adminstration: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedne...asked-questions

Q: Are the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine interchangeable?

A: No. There are no data available on the interchangeability of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine with other COVID-19 vaccines, including Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. Individuals who have received one dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine should receive a second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to complete the vaccination series.

Individuals who have received one dose of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine should receive a second dose of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to complete the vaccination series.


 Originally Posted By: BroKe
It's still advised not to mix UNLESS the only thing available is a different one. Because they want herd immunity as fast as possible.they basically saying take anything you can get for the sake of the whole. I can wait for supply to come back. Not a big deal to me. Everyone is in some mad rush because they wanna go eat at restaurants smh

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#10078948 - 06/24/21 10:14 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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It matters to me cause it's going into my body. Im not even 100% on these vaccines in general but when you talk about vaccine vs. no vaccine it's better to take the vaccine than getting covid. But to mix and match just cause you can't wait a week or 2. No thanks.
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#10079609 - 06/25/21 09:54 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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My 16yo is now fully vaccinated as of 15 minutes ago.
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#10081039 - 06/28/21 07:54 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
"Experts say second shot of Moderna is 'as good as' Pfizer when mixing with AZ"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...th-az-1.5471400


"In clinical trials, Moderna showed 94.1 per cent efficacy in preventing COVID-19 two weeks after a second dose, comparable to Pfizer's 95 per cent. Both trials saw zero hospitalizations and deaths in those who did get COVID-19 after being vaccinated."

Though, that's likely with Moderna + Moderna vs Pfizer + Pfizer, and not my scenario of AZ + ___ ...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...ccine-1.5445347

 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
Moderna for me next week. Delta variant is here....not going to wait.


My only concern is whether other countries will accept mixing as "proper" full vaccination. Given government and science rarely aligns; I'm just thinking of the long game when it's ok to travel - and we find out our vaccine cards are invalid (by other countries we want to visit) because we mixed; but then we don't have any means of re-doing a "proper" full vaccination again (cuz by then only boosters will be offered).
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#10081686 - 06/29/21 08:07 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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 Originally Posted By: BroKe
It matters to me cause it's going into my body.


like John Mayer says, your body is a wonderland.
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#10083928 - 07/02/21 08:27 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Got Mo for shot #2 on Tues afternoon ...

Was fucked for most of Wed (especially Wed aft) with a super sore arm, and just overall soreness -- felt like I did a hard day of manual labour...

Did it in a local community centre -- it's clear they had their game on, everything ran smooth, and it's as if they had too many volunteers ...

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