#884317 - 01/07/07 03:26 PM
NOHC's dream W-body?
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Quad4_driver
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/380486/2
I've never heard of the motor before though.
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#884429 - 01/07/07 04:11 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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It's based on the old 4.9L Cadillac V8, not the 3800
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#884435 - 01/07/07 04:13 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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No, The motor's based on the old Cadillac 4.1/4.9 pushrod TBI motors. Aluminum blocks, iron heads and an absolute pig when it comes to performance in stock form. Reliability is about on par with your average GM boat anchor of it's day.
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Now..you wanna see my dream W Body?
The original 1988 Pace Car was driven by Chuck Yeager at the 72nd Indianapolis 500 on May 29, 1988. The car was not a true convertible, as it didn't actually have a top and had no actual side windows. It had been modified at General Motors request by a now defunct company called Cars and Concepts in order to comply with Indy rules that require the Pace Car have no top. The doors were opened using push-down door handles located on the top of the door sill, similar to the 1970's 3rd generation Corvette. There likely was a hard top that could be used in case of foul weather. Goodyear ZR225/50ZR16 rubber adorned special 16"x 6.5" aluminum wheels which were not available on any 1988 production Cutlass Supreme. These wheels later became factory equipment on the 1989-1991 International Series.
The Pace Car also had a unique front air dam which housed integrated fog lamps. The engine was a 250HP turbocharged and inter-cooled 2.3L Quad4 which literally produced twice the horsepower of the 2.8L V6 used in production class Cutlass Supremes. The engine was built using mostly off-the-shelf parts, and was specially modified by the General Motors' Lansing Power train Division. Modifications consisted of a custom stainless steel exhaust manifold, intake plumbing, and special tuning. This engine was unique to the Pace Car, and the turbocharged version of this engine was never used in any other production W-body car.
The transmission was a beefed up TH440T4 and power was transmitted to the front wheels via strengthened drive axles. The Pace Car suspension was standard production FE3 and used stock struts. Stopping power was provided by the Delco/Moraine ABS.
The Pace Car was also the first W-body car to get a HUD (Heads Up Display) with the Hughes Electronics logo on it. The Delco/Hughes HUD unit was developed using heads-up display technology borrowed from Hughes fighter jets. It projects the digital speedometer onto the windshield in the driver's line of sight.
The interior was basically the same as a production International Series, with the exception of special black leather upholstery with red accents. The seatbacks also had a unique Pace Car embroidery. Other features included three-point competition seat belts for the driver and passenger, a Halon gas fire extinguisher system, a fuel cell, and a removable roll-over bar.
A total of 5 Pace Cars were built, some with minor differences such as amber fog lamps, reverse, and front cornering lamp lenses.
http://www.mypacecar.net/replicas.htm
Now..they only made 250 Replicas, 50 of them being convertibles. All the convertibles were recalled, with only a few of them still remaining in private hands.
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#884443 - 01/07/07 04:18 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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It's based on the old 4.9L Cadillac V8, not the 3800
Guess I should have read closer. I more or less skimmed. I see the section now:
"ASG 5.0 engines begin life as a new GM Goodwrench Cadillac OHV 4.9L V8. This engine was the mainstay for Cadillac from 1991-1994 when it was replaced by the 4.6L DOHC Northstar Engine. The 4.9L OHV V8 is rated at 200 HP at 4100 RPM, and 275 ft-lbs of Torque at 3000 RPM by Cadillac. Cadillac mated the 4.9L OHV V8 with their strongest front-wheel drive automatic transmission of the day -- the Cadillac 4T60-E."
Edited by Morbo (01/07/07 04:20 PM)
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#884456 - 01/07/07 04:24 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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NOHC
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Dude, i've recently found out there has been some progress in 60degree V6 turbo set up.
I've seen some 300plus whp 60's.
There's a few guys on the W-body forums that have swapped in 5 speeds in their TGP/TGP powered cars as well as hopped them up considerably with bigger hairdryers, tinkering with the greasy mechanical bits inside the motor, 3100/3400 top end swaps, as well as a bit of tuning. 300 hp isn't that hard to get out of a 60deg motor and most of the parts are dirt cheap. Really, the only "expensive" part is a fairly rare now TGP crossover pipe or having one fabbed to mount a snail on it.
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#884613 - 01/07/07 05:42 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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#886023 - 01/07/07 11:56 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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LOL at the fucking mod list. Everything after the first and second line is teh ghey.
Engine
ASG 5.0L V8 engine swap with 4T60-E transmission Heads are ported and polished High performance pistons Accel High performance fuel injectors K&N cold air intake White Wire Loom GM Performance Strut Bar White painted engine pieces
Exterior
17” Enkei RS5 silver racing rims with 235/50R17 Kumho ECSTA KH11 9006 HID Plasma Xenon light bulbs JSP 58” Apache Wing Clifford Remote Start and Alarm 2.5 inch stainless steel exhaust pipe form headers back Magnaflow High flow Catalytic Converter Flowmaster 40 series 2 chamber mufflers with Quad stainless steel tips Silblade White wiper blades Streetglow Purple LED underbody kit 15% Black tint Custom made body kit Custom made ram air hood Acura Integra Tail Light conversion Custom white with blue pearl paint
Stereo
Pioneer AVH-P6400CD In-Dash Motorized Monitor with CD Player Infinity Kappa 693.5i 6"x9" 3-way Speakers Infinity Kappa 462.5cfp 4"x6" 2-way Plate Speakers Memphis 124d 12" HPO sub with Memphis ported box Memphis 16-ST500D amp Lightning Audio 1.0 Farad Capacitor In-Dash DVD Player Stinger Distribution Block
Interior
Custom Grey/Black Front Door Panels Custom Grey/Black Rear Door Panels Custom Black/Grey Shift Boot Grey/Black E-speed racing seats Grey/Black E-speed racing seats conversion in rear Nokya Gunmetal Racing Pedals Custom Trunk Enclosure with Black Carpet and 5th 17inch rim Custom False floor with APC fire extinguisher Custom Black Carpet Custom Black Headliner Custom Black covered Dash Custom painted Black and Grey Dash Pieces Black light Interior Neons Black and grey flame Speedhut gauges APC Black/Grey Street spec steering wheel Street glow purple strobes
Soon to Come Custom Fiberglass interior and trunk enclosure
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#8984529 - 03/26/17 08:41 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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#9173971 - 10/31/17 03:26 AM
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#9235967 - 01/21/18 09:14 PM
Re: NOHC's dream W-body?
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