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#6412949 - 06/19/12 09:13 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: TexasCamaroSS]
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#6412952 - 06/19/12 09:14 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: charlie_td1]
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I tried the NB Minimus road and they were ok. I have a habit of trying to do too much, too soon when I go minimal and I end up hurting myself a couple months into it. They weren't horrible, but they aren't my favorite either.

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#6412960 - 06/19/12 09:20 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: TexasCamaroSS]
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I've been wearing Asics for many years now, and am looking to try some minimalist running shoes. Anyone try the Asics Blur 33s? Also looking at the New Balance Minimus. If anyone has any personal experience with these (not the vibram toe shoes), please chime in. Thanks



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#6416642 - 06/21/12 12:03 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: 2000CheetahStud]
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So decided to try some yasso 800's last night.
If you dont know it is 800m intervals ran at your marathon goal pace, so if you want to do a 3:15 marathon you try and run your 800's in 3:15, pretty simple.
Well my probably way to lofty goal for my next marathon is under 3:05 for BQ, so 3:05 800's for my workout.
I went out for my first 800 at what felt like a comfortable pace and ended up doing it in 2:55, next one was exactly the same.
Next two were 2:57 and 2:58 and the final two were 3:02 and 2:59, for a total of 6x800 at an average of about 2:58.
Think I'm gonna make these part of my weekly work and work up to 10x800.
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#6417017 - 06/21/12 02:13 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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I like the sound of that workout.
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#6422421 - 06/24/12 11:30 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Love this run!


Only did 37 miles this week but did some good speedwork and hills, so I feel good about it.
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#6427258 - 06/27/12 11:13 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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for those of you who run 10+ miles...

is it hard for you to find a route to run or is it easy in your area

just mapped out a run for my first ten miler of this program that i am on and holy fuck, just visioning it (what the elevation changes are since i drive that route alot) was painfl.

first 1.5miles = slow gradual downhill
2.8 miles = rolling gradual uphill with a few areas that are flat and then continuing uphill
1.2 miles = downhill to turn around point


follow the route back home from the turn around point
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#6427491 - 06/27/12 12:47 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Duc]
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Easy. Almost all of my runs are variations on the same loop. If its a shorter run, I turn early...longer I turn later. I also switch up the direction as it changes the number of hills, wind, etc.
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#6428720 - 06/27/12 11:17 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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I'm pretty lucky that I live about a half mile from an awesome trail thats a good 10+ miles long.
I drive about 15 minutes to an open space preserve to do my hill runs.
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#6428751 - 06/28/12 12:02 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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Wooo....just finished a 9 mile run at a 7:13 pace a few hours after doing 40 miles on the bike. Hot damn I'm sweating like a grease monkey!
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#6430419 - 06/28/12 05:25 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Wooo....just finished a 9 mile run at a 7:13 pace a few hours after doing 40 miles on the bike. Hot damn I'm sweating like a grease monkey!




My wife has the kids trained to tell me how stinky and gross I am when I get back from a run, they wont come near me.
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#6445228 - 07/07/12 10:50 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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Did my first ever 10 mile training run in 1:32:55. I'm 5 weeks into a 10 week plan for next month's Hottest Half in Dallas (my first organized event in 18 years). Started out strong this morning and faded hard at the 8.5 mile point. I tried gels for the first time during the run and I honestly think they helped. Last week I ran 8 miles in 1:25 without them, so today was a pleasant surprise.

My goal was originally just to finish next month's half, but I'm thinking of tweaking it to trying to break 2 hours. We'll see...it's obviously going to depend on how hot it is.

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#6446252 - 07/07/12 11:30 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: TexasCamaroSS]
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Ok, so I haven't been running in this heat. Im all for 95* and a run, but 110-115* heat index with high humidity? Nope.
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#6446375 - 07/08/12 01:51 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: 2000CheetahStud]
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Ok, so I haven't been running in this heat. Im all for 95* and a run, but 110-115* heat index with high humidity? Nope.
Find a shaded route & it feels like over 10 degrees off what the stated temp is

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#6446984 - 07/08/12 03:46 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: bt0]
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Ok, so I haven't been running in this heat. Im all for 95* and a run, but 110-115* heat index with high humidity? Nope.
Find a shaded route & it feels like over 10 degrees off what the stated temp is
I need to work on running in the morning first thing. Im just NOT a morning person. That said, weather is in the mid 80's here all week, so Ill get some good mileage in. \:\)

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#6447757 - 07/09/12 08:09 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: 2000CheetahStud]
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I went out yesterday morning and did my longest run to date. 4.9 miles in 47 minutes. Wholly shit was it hot. I got a late start, about 10 and it was already probably 95 degrees. Ridiculous! I felt great though. I've been doing 2-3 mile runs at night so it was good to see that I can do a longer distance and still be ok.
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#6448138 - 07/09/12 11:47 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: MonkeyStillAlive]
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Yesterdays run, felt super strong on the hills.

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#6452785 - 07/11/12 12:29 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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I haven't worked out at the gym in about 2 months and just now going to get back in it. Cardio wise, is there a huge benefit in doing treadmill over elliptical? Do you lose a lot more fat from running over elliptical or other forms of cardio? Apologies if this was asked before.
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#6452825 - 07/11/12 12:44 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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 Originally Posted By: ampsman
Yesterdays run, felt super strong on the hills.



What program is that? I'd love to have something similar for riding my bike.

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I haven't worked out at the gym in about 2 months and just now going to get back in it. Cardio wise, is there a huge benefit in doing treadmill over elliptical? Do you lose a lot more fat from running over elliptical or other forms of cardio? Apologies if this was asked before.


I'm not sure what your goal is but in my experience the elliptical never really prepares me for actual running. You're also supposed to put the incline up to at least one on a treadmill to simulate running outside.

Of course, if you're just looking to lose weight then I have no idea.. \:D

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#6452922 - 07/11/12 01:18 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ionfyst]
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I am not really preparing for anything just trying to lean out. My routine is weight lifting 4-5 days a week with 40 minutes of elliptical after every work out. At leased this is how I did it before. I intake about 1250-1500 calories daily. 5'7 177lbs, would like to get down to 160ish.

I start the elliptical at incline 8 and resistance 8, then at the 10min mark I would increase the incline by 1 and resistance by 2. I do this at every 10min mark. So from 30min to 40min I am at incline 11 and resistance 14. Just concerned that the cardio might be too much or other cardio routines might be better for what I want.
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#6453708 - 07/11/12 07:36 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Arma]
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Awesome run tonight. 14 minutes straight, met my wife at the park for 7 minute walk, and then ran 8 minutes home. Easily could have ran for a bit longer. Beautiful weather in Cincy tonight, too.

2.6 Miles.

-Matt


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#6453947 - 07/11/12 09:11 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Arma]
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 Originally Posted By: Arma
I haven't worked out at the gym in about 2 months and just now going to get back in it. Cardio wise, is there a huge benefit in doing treadmill over elliptical? Do you lose a lot more fat from running over elliptical or other forms of cardio? Apologies if this was asked before.


I cant tell you which is better but Ive lost a ton of weight using the elliptical over the past few months. I only started running once I lost enough weight so it would be easier on my already bad knees so if thats a problem I'd go with the elliptical

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#6454196 - 07/11/12 11:28 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ionfyst]
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 Originally Posted By: ampsman
Yesterdays run, felt super strong on the hills.



What program is that? I'd love to have something similar for riding my bike.

 Originally Posted By: Arma
I haven't worked out at the gym in about 2 months and just now going to get back in it. Cardio wise, is there a huge benefit in doing treadmill over elliptical? Do you lose a lot more fat from running over elliptical or other forms of cardio? Apologies if this was asked before.


I'm not sure what your goal is but in my experience the elliptical never really prepares me for actual running. You're also supposed to put the incline up to at least one on a treadmill to simulate running outside.

Of course, if you're just looking to lose weight then I have no idea.. \:D


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#6464241 - 07/17/12 10:28 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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hot damn I'm beat. Started with 90 minutes on the bike, then ran 2.5 to the pool, swam 2000 yards, then ran the 2.5 home.
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#6470427 - 07/20/12 04:10 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Anybody using a fuel/water belt. I just picked up a single bottle because I just can't handle the 85-95 heat at night and am hoping it will help on 5+ mile runs.
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#6470648 - 07/20/12 05:57 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: slackereg6]
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I typically don't run longer than an hour, so I bring nothing. But when it got to 95 here, I brought a bottle of Gatorade (the light one) with me and just ran with it in my hand. After halfway, it was empty so I ditched it.
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#6471145 - 07/21/12 12:33 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Impulsive]
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I just plan my route to hit a few water fountains on my long runs. My wife loves her handheld single bottle though.
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#6471410 - 07/21/12 10:26 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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yesterday's splits


1 8:33 -- 8'33"/mi
2 17:05 - 0:01 (0%) 8'32"/mi
3 25:37 + 0:00 (0%) 8'32"/mi
4 34:12 + 0:03 (-1%) 8'35"/mi
5 42:48 + 0:01 (-1%) 8'36"/mi
6 51:40 + 0:16 (-4%) 8'52"/mi
7 1:00:48 + 0:16 (-4%) 9'08"/mi
8 1:09:59 + 0:03 (-1%) 9'11"/mi
9 1:19:32 + 0:22 (-4%) 9'33"/mi
10 1:33:07 + 4:02 (-43%) 13'35"/mi
11 1:42:33 - 4:09 (30%) 9'26"/mi
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#6471798 - 07/21/12 04:36 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Duc]
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Got caught in pouring rain today. Soaked, head to toe. Glad I decided to leave my phone at home.
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#6487133 - 07/28/12 11:11 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Impulsive]
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Last minute 5k this morning, did it in 20:28 with the jogger.
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#6494108 - 08/01/12 07:08 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: slackereg6]
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Anybody using a fuel/water belt. I just picked up a single bottle because I just can't handle the 85-95 heat at night and am hoping it will help on 5+ mile runs.


I use the 2 bottle fuel belt on my runs over an hour. It's also got the pouch which is nice for carrying gels. If you had a smaller phone, it might fit in there, but I don't think anything the size of an iPhone will.

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#6495435 - 08/01/12 03:46 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: TexasCamaroSS]
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In my last week before I start my taper for Ironman Louisville.
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#6495634 - 08/01/12 04:57 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: TexasCamaroSS]
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 Originally Posted By: slackereg6
Anybody using a fuel/water belt. I just picked up a single bottle because I just can't handle the 85-95 heat at night and am hoping it will help on 5+ mile runs.


I use the 2 bottle fuel belt on my runs over an hour. It's also got the pouch which is nice for carrying gels. If you had a smaller phone, it might fit in there, but I don't think anything the size of an iPhone will.


i just bought a 2liter hydration back pack
its awesome too. holds my phone, keys and doesnt move at all.
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#6496031 - 08/01/12 07:41 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: RedACR]
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 Originally Posted By: RedACR
 Originally Posted By: TexasCamaroSS
 Originally Posted By: slackereg6
Anybody using a fuel/water belt. I just picked up a single bottle because I just can't handle the 85-95 heat at night and am hoping it will help on 5+ mile runs.


I use the 2 bottle fuel belt on my runs over an hour. It's also got the pouch which is nice for carrying gels. If you had a smaller phone, it might fit in there, but I don't think anything the size of an iPhone will.


i just bought a 2liter hydration back pack
its awesome too. holds my phone, keys and doesnt move at all.


Link to what you bought??

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#6496204 - 08/01/12 09:02 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: MonkeyStillAlive]
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here

It was cheap and its actually awesome. Did a ten mile run with it
and it stayed put. Ive tried some waist bands but they annoy me with
the weight of the water bouncing around. Ill be running close to 12 miles with it
on friday and having that water is a big big help.
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