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#7417171 - 11/29/13 07:11 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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rode 32 miles outside today with a temp of 35. FINALLY found a pair of shoe covers that keep my feet from freezing. only took 3 years and 4 different pairs lol
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#7417172 - 11/29/13 07:11 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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robby, you ever do the sufferfest vids on the trainer? they are brutal
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#7417179 - 11/29/13 07:22 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I did a couple last year, haven't done any yet this year since I started following a base plan from TR.
The nice thing with TR is that you can import the sufferfest videos into the program and they have all the sufferfest workouts in their library so you get the video with the workout scaled to your FTP and a heads up display of real time data so you can make sure you're maintaining pace for that specific interval.

I'm going to start doing the sufferfest vids again after I finish the 4 week base.

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#7417863 - 11/30/13 02:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: g@mby
Today will likely be my first day on the trainer for this winter. \:\(

Gonna go put my crap tire on a beater wheel in preparation.

God, I hate that thing. \:\(


What trainer do you have? Spend the $10 a month and use trainerroad, it will help a ton getting through those workouts! So much better than just pedaling aimlessly without any real specific goal, really helps to stay on track.
Once you sign up, join the clubsi team. Only two members, not off to a good start \:\(


I have a crappy Graber mag trainer. Nothing special. I do 1 hour stints where I try to mimic one of my regular loops. Some "hills" some sprints, decent cadence spinning. I'm only good for an hour on the thing before it just gets too uncomfortable.

I load up the DVR with car shows and go at it. Hoping to do three times a week.
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#7419407 - 12/01/13 05:08 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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I have to say--HUGE difference in fitness level on the trainer this year vs. last year. I'm able to put in a MUCH harder effort and not crap out. I sweat buckets, too.
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#7419666 - 12/01/13 07:44 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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I just checked, they don't have power curves for your trainer, shitty.
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#7421882 - 12/02/13 09:15 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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I picked up the wahoo kickr trainer. On erg mode with trainerroad and sufferfest its amazing. With 2 babies under 2 my road time was diminishing and my waist was growing. This combo of power based training and video/trainerroad can give you very targeted workouts with minimal bs spin time.
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#7423642 - 12/03/13 05:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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you join now!

http://www.trainerroad.com/teams/289-clubsi

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#7423875 - 12/03/13 07:55 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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was nice here today, wore my summer skinsuit on my ride today \:\)
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#7424219 - 12/04/13 12:32 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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48 out for today's 18-miler. Coming off of a cold, on heavy backup bike with a bit of wind, so yeah--slow.

I'm so much slower in the winter anyway. The air is like a wall at this time of year (plus less aero clothing) Wut dat thermodynamics do?

I'll get another 20 in on Thurs and MAYBE another 20 on Sat, but that might be inside on the trainer. We'll see weather-wise.
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#7428149 - 12/06/13 12:03 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Rainy/shitty today (which sucks, because it was warm--53), tomorrow is supposed to be the same and it gets cold on Saturday. I think the road miles will be few and far betweenfor the next few months.

HOWEVER--clearly I trained effectively this past season because I'm crushing on my trainer. I'm so much stronger on it over last year. I can't get over it. Looks like my trainer sessions will be a lot more effective this year vs. last year.

I think Santa is gonna bring me one of them China carbon 50mm wheels this year, too. This one seller (DIY Bike) looks like they make a really nice product. It'll be about the same weight as the Ultegra wheel it replaces but with a fuckton more aero. And it'll look pimp.
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#7428285 - 12/06/13 06:30 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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If you want a way to truly measure your effectiveness on the trainer - get something to measure power. Crank, wheel, power trainer - all have a good place in effective training.

And get on trainerroad!

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#7429423 - 12/06/13 05:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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ugh cx race tomorrow - going to be in the 20s




this will hurt.. alot
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#7429512 - 12/06/13 06:27 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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 Originally Posted By: shamrok
ugh cx race tomorrow - going to be in the 20s



That looks MISERABLE.

Be sure to have someone take pics of your misery tho!!!


 Originally Posted By: civic00sedan
If you want a way to truly measure your effectiveness on the trainer - get something to measure power. Crank, wheel, power trainer - all have a good place in effective training.

And get on trainerroad!


I'm too cheap to spend $$$ on a power meter. I'm going low-tech in that I'm spinning bigger gears harder and longer than I used to.

As for trainerroad, I think my setup is too low-tech. I don't even have a rear wheel sensor for my cycle computer.
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#7429653 - 12/06/13 07:54 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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 Quote:
I'm too cheap to spend $$$ on a power meter. I'm going low-tech in that I'm spinning bigger gears harder and longer than I used to.

As for trainerroad, I think my setup is too low-tech. I don't even have a rear wheel sensor for my cycle computer.


To cheap?? your buying carbon wheels!!

either way - a Garmin GSC - speed / cadence thing (under fifty bucks) will give you virtual power on trainerroad that is pretty darn accurate and will benefit you more than those fancy/expensive wheels \:\)

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#7429705 - 12/06/13 08:20 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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Ya, trainerroad is a blessing, there is no way I would be able to bang out a productive hour on the trainer more than once a week without it. Time actually flys by, when I used to just watch TV it was absolute hell. Nice to have structured workouts and have everything logged/charted out so I can see my progress.
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#7430168 - 12/07/13 09:30 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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Ebay China carbon--just the rear

That Garmin option sounds interesting. I can't say I even understand the whole concept of how it works (trainerroad) in terms of an interface between my low tech trainer and whatever.

Meanwhile, I'll bang out another hour today.
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#7430588 - 12/07/13 03:42 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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those ebay china wheels arent bad. my buddy got 2 sets for cx and they arent bad for 500 bucks a set.

gl shamrok, posts pics!

56 miles outside today in 38 degrees and 15mph winds, yee haw!

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#7430615 - 12/07/13 04:24 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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You are nuts, I could never do that.

My ride today
http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/529809-Sufferfest-Angels

Was definitely doing some mouth breathing near the end.

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#7430623 - 12/07/13 04:37 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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all my stuff is thermal windstopper stuff so i stay nice and warm down to about 30 so its not TOO bad

i did angels before, that one hurt. hell they all hurt lol

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#7431810 - 12/08/13 01:53 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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My quads are pretty sore from yesterday's trainer workout. It looks like I'll be able to keep a very good level of fitness over the winter if I continue to hit it hard indoors like this.

I'm more motivated on the trainer now because I'm so much more effective on it this year.
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#7433305 - 12/09/13 01:17 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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That was miserable - I know I know Rule 5 blah blah blah, but it was so slick in areas - horrible race for me (wish I had brought the mtb)

here is the cat 2/1 race
http://youtu.be/XWKQiItJXjc


Edited by shamrok (12/09/13 01:19 PM)
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#7433431 - 12/09/13 02:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Camera rider seems like a beast to me. Cool course in that there was barely any portaging. I dunno if I have the balls to ride that fast on hardpack snow.

I could feel the cold through the screen.
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#7443913 - 12/14/13 03:47 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Another killer ride for Saturday afternoon!

http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/547106-Sufferfest-There-is-No-Try

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#7443952 - 12/14/13 04:06 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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I just banged out another drenched hour on mine. 3 hours for the week. Plus 8.5 miles of road running.
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#7443963 - 12/14/13 04:11 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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I'm shooting for 4x1hour per week but missed a ride this week, I feel shitty about it, but then again it's only the middle of December.
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#7443969 - 12/14/13 04:15 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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i havent rode in a week. i havent had a solid week off the bike all year so i guess this is my rest week haha. plus its been in the low 20s, snowed a bit and i worked my pt job for 15 hours plus my ft job so i was just tired all week. my training really starts jan 1 so im not sweating it. would have liked to hit 5500 miles for the year, ill fall like 150ish short
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#7444033 - 12/14/13 04:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Looks like next Saturday is supposed to be 49 out (that could change drastically in a week) so if I get out there that day, I'll clear 2800 miles for the year. I'm content with that.
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#7444173 - 12/14/13 07:00 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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REI sale on Honey Stinger Waffles--$.69 each!!!

http://www.rei.com/product/813290/honey-...1235-_-10547273

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#7444213 - 12/14/13 07:50 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby


I like thaat ride

I did http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/545015-Sufferfest-The-Wretched Friday and my legs were wobbling as i walked upstairs from the basement

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#7456649 - 12/21/13 02:40 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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todays ride, 101 miles

http://www.strava.com/activities/101274080

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#7456673 - 12/21/13 03:00 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I ran 13 on some new trails today with a buddy and the running group he runs with. Pretty easy pace and I felt great considering I ran 17 the day before.

65 miles for the week so far. Not sure if I'll get one in tomorrow or not since were hitting up Six Flags.
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#7457472 - 12/22/13 10:44 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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I got out yesterday and flatted 20 miles in (11th flat of the year). Turned out something in my pump's head was broken, so no air. Thankfully I was only as mile from my car, but I go it screwed out of the extra laps I was going to take around the state park where I was parked.

Ridiculously warm today (60+), but pretty windy with rain threatening. I have to see if I can sneak away from my wife's clutches.
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#7458234 - 12/22/13 08:39 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Its been a very unseasonably cold December so I have spent zero time on the bike this month because I don't have any winter clothes for riding. The wife came through with a sweet cycling jacket but I still need some gloves and tights if I'm going out in 35 degrees.
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#7459674 - 12/23/13 06:09 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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I managed a damp, grimy 20 yesterday. It was 64 out (in RI, 3 days before Christmas, which is insane), sothat made it pleasant. Felt pretty strong, so it seems like I'm doing effective trainer workouts.

Hope to fit a run in tomorrow, then a couple of skip days for celebrations.
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