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#7670809 - 04/29/14 03:00 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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When I did them on the trainer I would just wait for a commercial break in whatever I was watching, then put the hammer down till they were over, lol. Super scientific.
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#7671040 - 04/29/14 05:39 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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you are never going to be able to hold max power for 4-5-6 minutes so you will obviously have to take it down a notch and try and hold the same power output for the entire duration. Takes a bit of practice to find out what kind of power level/heart rate to push for certain times.
The beauty with intervals is there is no real wrong way to do it. You can mix it up with longer, lower power pushes and also throw in some 1 minute balls to the wall cough up blood sprints. Just don't over do it.

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#7671475 - 04/29/14 11:53 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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The longest intervals I did on the trainer were 2:30-3 minutes.

Out on the path I don't really time them. There's a 4 mile segment where I go balls out for 12-13 minutes depending on wind. Otherwise I just try to move fairly quickly on a 20-25 mile loop.

Same path done as a TT is complete balls out for 8.7 out, rest, 8.7 back. That's rough. Best is ~52 minutes that way.
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#7672086 - 04/30/14 11:02 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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cool, thanks guys. I'm noticing I'm not anywhere near as fast as I thought I might be
my 'goal' of holding 20mph for say 40km [in whatever wind conditions there are] is a bit of a reach in my current fitness. I seem to barely hang on [in favorable winds!] for 10 miles or so. I think I also need to work on my aero position heh
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#7672247 - 04/30/14 12:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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20 mph average on a standard road bike is no small feat outside of the nato realm. On a warm, windless day on that aforementioned 17.5 mile flat path, I can get close to it (19.7 last summer iirc). I think I'll hit it this summer, but it's a big effort.
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#7677644 - 05/03/14 06:36 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Did my first road race in 2 years today... Turkey Hill Country Classic which is put on by the drink company, Turkey Hill, obviously. Its a local race and has a nasty 1 mile downhill finish with a tailwind usually. Last year there was 3 really bad crashes in the field sprint in 3 different classes, so i was on my guard for the finish. The race was 42 miles or 7 laps around a 6 mile course. The last lap the route diverts and we go up whats called "gamber wall" which is a .1 mile, 20% grade kicker. I hung towards the front as much as i could in a effort to avoid the yo-yo'ing of the back of the 100 man field. I knew some of the stronger guys in the field so I payed attention to where they were. The race was pretty uneventful for the most part..a few small breaks that didnt stick, i bridged to a break of 5 guys and say 201bpm on my hr monitor which damn near blew me up. The last lap is when the fire works erupted. We come back down the hill from gamber wall and had about 3 miles to the finish. making a left turn back onto the original course, 2 dudes about 5 guys in front of me go down..i locked up and swerved around and made it out ok... so we go down this fast downhill and make a right back onto the home straight of about 2 miles,that has a series of 3 rollers before the downhill section. I started slowly making my way towards the front in a attempt to escape the carnage. so we crest the third roller and its all downhill to the finish with a tailwind in a 40+man group. I working to find a gap and have a opening to sprint from. we cross the 1K to go sign and the course makes a little S before straight to the finish. this is where all hell broke loose. im about 10-15th and we start sprinting. i hear a boom and shit going awry to my left, then i see a scott pro mtb guy go down 2 riders in front of me. i swerve to my right, anticipating that the guy in front of me also goes right. he goes left. i run off the road at almost 40mph, bring it back on, take a glance behind me, and literally, i mean literally the entire field is either stopped or on the ground so i cruised the last 100 yards to a 7th place finish and won 30 bucks holla! so fucking close to getting taken out. 42.4 miles in 1hr 47min. I covered the final .4 miles in 36 seconds at 38.5mph at 800+ watts
http://www.strava.com/activities/137022557


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#7677812 - 05/03/14 09:31 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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puke - good job man
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#7677817 - 05/03/14 09:37 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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http://youtu.be/R15YoBFx_ss
Crash link. I'm at :35s in yellow shoes white helmet middle of screen


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#7678012 - 05/04/14 05:35 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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wish I had a gopro - I'd record the race today.

pretty ass kicker trail - lots and lots and lots of rocks
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#7678128 - 05/04/14 10:09 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Nice job man...the video is crazy! Glad you made it out unscathed and in the top 10.
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#7678181 - 05/04/14 11:37 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Crits strike me as the Spec Miata of cycling. Wreck, wreck, wreck.

Gnarly shit. Glad you survived.
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#7678229 - 05/04/14 12:32 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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that is why i stick to dirt and cross lol
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#7678474 - 05/04/14 06:09 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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apparently I should have packed a powerlink with me today

chain exploded on me two pedal strokes into the start

had to sprint with bike all the way to pit from staging area, took like 5 minutes to find a gd link. all the while two more age groups have been sent out.

ended up 6th in my group (of 16 or 17) - would have been 5th but I dropped chain off the cassette on the final climb, prob have gotten 3rd if I didn't OTB in a rock garden
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#7678540 - 05/04/14 07:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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sounds like a wild race, still a good result though for all the bad luck. nice job!
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#7678620 - 05/04/14 08:43 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Also rolled 2k miles for the year this weekend. 2067ytd
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#7678718 - 05/04/14 10:32 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Wow, I'm doing good at 200 miles so far this year which is WAY ahead of schedule normally for me
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#7678868 - 05/05/14 07:08 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
Also rolled 2k miles for the year this weekend. 2067ytd


bleh - fighting burnout lately - i think I was on bike one or two times last week for mtb. 1700ish \:\(
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#7680281 - 05/05/14 07:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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I've been hitting close to 100 miles a week for a bit now. IIRC, I'm only at ~775 miles YTD at the moment. I'd like May to be another 400+ mile month.

Had a strong 27 miles today. Finished with 13 miles of flat with a decent tailwind.
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#7680289 - 05/05/14 07:15 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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hoping to up my pace to around 300/mo, with greater intensity/intervals and stuff thrown in. Something to shake off my slowness \:\|
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#7680327 - 05/05/14 07:36 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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Starting this month I'll do my usually 100-150 miles a week.
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#7687641 - 05/10/14 06:33 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Lewis]
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first real CAT1 race today, none of the open bs, at french creek today. super rocky. i crash here every year and what do you know i ate shit hard twice and hurt my hip that i broke the other year pretty good and rashed the hell out of myself. the good news though is that i beat my strong teammate and got 3rd out of 19 in the CAT1 19-39 age group. my teammate got 4th. im pumped i beat him since hes a beast and just mashes the hell out of climbs. the cool part is that if i would have raced the pro/cat1 race, my time was good enough for 8th place..and it payed top 20. FUUUUUU. next time. 21.6 miles, 26000ft of climb, 11.8 mph avg, 181avg hr, 195 max 1:49.xx
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#7687891 - 05/11/14 02:03 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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puke, good job!
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#7690181 - 05/12/14 10:03 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Did a 61 mile berfday ride today. Averaged 16.2 mph, which I'm pretty content with.

I don't even feel beaten-up from it. /notbadobama
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#7690352 - 05/13/14 04:48 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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 Originally Posted By: g@mby
Did a 61 mile berfday ride today. Averaged 16.2 mph, which I'm pretty content with.

I don't even feel beaten-up from it. /notbadobama


hah - try out what I did Sunday morning - 65mi on a cross bike w/ knobbies on

beat up feeling I was

so ready to be finished parting this road bike together

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#7691583 - 05/13/14 07:40 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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 Originally Posted By: g@mby
Did a 61 mile berfday ride today. Averaged 16.2 mph, which I'm pretty content with.

I don't even feel beaten-up from it. /notbadobama


nice work!

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#7691598 - 05/13/14 07:50 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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some pics taken by my teammates daughter on her iphone potato

Me and Teammate













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#7691655 - 05/13/14 08:26 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Nice job!!!!


Quick question: Why do you guys always put some "nicer" shorts on over your kit for the podium pics? Self conscious? \:D
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#7691674 - 05/13/14 08:40 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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i put on shorts to get out of my sweaty bibs. i wore my stoked hat just for you though \:D
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#7691729 - 05/13/14 09:33 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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#7693287 - 05/14/14 06:05 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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dat hat
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#7693521 - 05/14/14 08:50 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Nice job!!!!


Quick question: Why do you guys always put some "nicer" shorts on over your kit for the podium pics? Self conscious? \:D


no one likes baking bread in their bibs after a race

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#7693539 - 05/14/14 09:08 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Lol.
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#7695861 - 05/16/14 12:52 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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new bike on the way!, 2013 Ellsworth Evolve Carbon...mmmm

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#7695960 - 05/16/14 01:45 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Love it - Probably rides like a dream
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#7696078 - 05/16/14 03:17 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Never been a fan of ellsworth, that rear end doesn't look like it has changed in 15 years and you pay a huge premium for the name. I've never actually rode one so my opinion is entirely subjective, kind of like how I can't stand cannondale because of all their stupid proprietary designs.

I'm sure the bike will be a blast, new bikes always are. Did you entertain the idea of a 1x11 drive train for a race bike?

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