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#8249899 - 06/15/15 01:42 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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14 hours in a week... that's like 3 weeks worth of riding for me.
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#8250668 - 06/15/15 07:52 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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pretty sure its my highest hour total for a week ever. highest mileage for a week is around 270
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#8253278 - 06/17/15 09:41 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Jesus. Meanwhile, this weekend is MS150. I'm not feeling the mojo do do the century leg on day 1. I might want to finish earlier, while more is going on. Maybe just cruise the 75 with my friends and have fun.

Realistically, I'd do it at my usual 15.5 mph pace for a long ride, so there's not much to prove.

We'll see...
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#8255845 - 06/18/15 08:37 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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nice! on my list of rides to do sometime. have a blast!
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#8257914 - 06/20/15 01:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Just did my longest solo ride, 75 miles at 17mph with ridiculous wind on the return leg I am beat. Did the first 40 miles at 19 mph then the wall of wind was discouraging as fuck.

Hoth in summer




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Romantic spot for bike and i, had to take a pic.




At hour 3 I was wasted from the headwind, average heart rate of 165 for a while trying to maintain that 19mph, was about to call it a life and just fucked off for a bit then cruised back at 145ish effort wise.


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#8258395 - 06/20/15 11:05 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Risky Business]
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my lame effort today: 129 avg HR, peak 151, got dropped /passed a couple times hehe [popular route]

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#8258589 - 06/21/15 11:03 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Just did my longest solo ride, 75 miles at 17mph with ridiculous wind on the return leg I am beat. Did the first 40 miles at 19 mph then the wall of wind was discouraging as fuck.

Hoth in summer






My friends



Romantic spot for bike and i, had to take a pic.




At hour 3 I was wasted from the headwind, average heart rate of 165 for a while trying to maintain that 19mph, was about to call it a life and just fucked off for a bit then cruised back at 145ish effort wise.



nice ride! sweet bike too!


Edited by nato2377 (06/21/15 11:04 AM)

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#8258617 - 06/21/15 12:03 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Nice ride RB!

I did 50 solo miles yesterday and it rained for the last 1/3. Fought the wind seemingly the whole way and ended up with a 16.xx average.

Edit: supposed to do another 1.5 hours today. Don't know that I have it in me \:\(


Edited by BellRacer (06/21/15 12:26 PM)

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#8258930 - 06/21/15 08:04 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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i didnt ride worth a shit this week, been feeling very flat on the bike...speeds are ok but i just dont have any pop. think i rode like 4 hours. call it a rest week. time to hammer out another big week this week
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#8259068 - 06/21/15 10:59 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I dunno how you maniacs do fast hilly centuries. This was day 1 of the MS150 and it involved a lot of climbing.



No stats because I only logged it in because didn't want to kill phone battery.

Day 2 got cancelled because of rain, so that was my concentrated effort for the weekend. Felt good for most of it, though. Really only started hurting by mile 85 and even then, it was tolerable.
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#8259195 - 06/22/15 05:59 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Did a 24 hour race this weekend, my team ended up killing it, we beat a lot of the sponsored bike teams, plus weather couldn't have been better. Ended up riding 68km at all out race pace, plus a 17km pre-ride the day before.
The most incredible thing though is the amount of people who choose to do a 24 hour race solo. My last lap was in the 22-23 hour mark of the race, so many of the guys still going grinding away on some of the sandiest, rootiest climbs. You can tell they are beat to shit physically and mentally yet they still power one, it's absolutely incredible to see.

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#8268806 - 06/28/15 03:23 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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I paid a price for this on the run lol, swim before was conservative also
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#8269045 - 06/28/15 09:17 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
Did a 24 hour race this weekend, my team ended up killing it, we beat a lot of the sponsored bike teams, plus weather couldn't have been better. Ended up riding 68km at all out race pace, plus a 17km pre-ride the day before.
The most incredible thing though is the amount of people who choose to do a 24 hour race solo. My last lap was in the 22-23 hour mark of the race, so many of the guys still going grinding away on some of the sandiest, rootiest climbs. You can tell they are beat to shit physically and mentally yet they still power one, it's absolutely incredible to see.


awesome! you havent been riding to much right? props to that many miles at race pace!

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#8269046 - 06/28/15 09:18 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
20 mph time trial achievement unlocked Wewt
723' course official climbing

I paid a price for this on the run lol, swim before was conservative also


nice job!

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#8269048 - 06/28/15 09:19 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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gamby, boston rebellion in walpole the 11th and 12th of july. Im racing xc on sat and stxc on sun if you can make it. robby should come down from canada too \:D
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#8269168 - 06/29/15 12:37 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
gamby, boston rebellion in walpole the 11th and 12th of july. Im racing xc on sat and stxc on sun if you can make it. robby should come down from canada too \:D


I actually have it in my calendar. STXC sounds awesome. What time do you race on each day? I'm sure I can get there for one of them. Also--you had mentioned needing someone to crew for you. Is that still needed?
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#8269876 - 06/29/15 01:49 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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4:15 for xc on sat and 4:30 for stxc on sunday. Keep in mind the stxc race is only 20 min. Im good on support, my teammate is coming with so he will be in the tech/feed zone for me. just saw todd wells signed up...crazy to think 4 years ago i just got on a mtb and now im lining up in the same race as him
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#8270434 - 06/29/15 06:25 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377

awesome! you havent been riding to much right? props to that many miles at race pace!


I had a terrible winter but i've been on the bike steady since mid march.


 Originally Posted By: nato2377
gamby, boston rebellion in walpole the 11th and 12th of july. Im racing xc on sat and stxc on sun if you can make it. robby should come down from canada too \:D


Lol if it wasn't an 11 hour drive I would have loved to come watch you kick Todd Wells ass!

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#8270477 - 06/29/15 06:46 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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ahh i didnt know how far you were. yea thats not worth it haha
i hope i get a photo with him behind me as he is lapping me so i can tell everyone i was showing him the fast lines \:D


Edited by nato2377 (06/29/15 06:46 PM)

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#8270508 - 06/29/15 07:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I love following the day to day of this race. I really want to do it one year.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/bc-bike-race-2015-day-1-cumberland.html

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#8270522 - 06/29/15 07:38 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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that race looks so epic. we should race it next year as a 2 man team! thanks for the link


Edited by nato2377 (06/29/15 07:41 PM)

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#8270547 - 06/29/15 07:55 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Check pinkbike.com daily, they post updates every day for each stage with tons of pics/videos/info.
A local guy I ride with did it 2 years ago and he said it was absolutely glorious and is registering again for next year.

Actually, just checked, registration opens up in exactly one week from today and it fills up fast. I don't think i'm doing my yearly whistler trip this year so maybe I will put that money towards the race. I've given it a lot of thought in the past, unfortunately all I own are hardtails though, not sure how well that would work.

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#8272304 - 06/30/15 08:05 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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After 4+ weeks my oval chainring FINALLY cleared customs. Just installed it and am anxious to try it out. Tomorrow is Canada day so might head to Michigan to do some riding and see if I notice any benefits on the trails with this thing.
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#8273513 - 07/01/15 02:12 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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how do i avoid the mid/late season peak then drop off?

i always get this, usually in september. my fitness reaches a peak and then i just crater thru october and stop riding around halloween, maybe into the second week of november and pick up again in march. i'll do the occasional weekend ride if we get weather where the wind isn't blowing 30mph, then i fight the grind to get back in shape when spring comes back around... which is misery.

i think my problem is that i never really took recovery rides or weeks with lesser intensity work and my body just crashes. doing the sufferfest 10 week training program has opened my eyes to this. they beat the hell out of you 2-3 weeks at a time, and then give you a week to recover, though you still put in some work during it. i'm in week 7 and am really happy with my progression.

what worries me, is how do i train after i'm done with this, with the goals of steadily improving fitness/strength? i've thought about getting a coach, but it seems like an extravagant expense for an amateur rider who doesn't really have any aspirations to race.

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#8273536 - 07/01/15 02:21 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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I'm a cyclist who, doesn't race.

If I wanted to get into racing, at some point, what's a good strategy.

I ride 40-60/week, mostly very short rides (only 1 per week above 10) on my "gravel grinder". I tend ride agressively a decent portion of that.


Should I try to add: 1 longer ride (30-40)? more medium rides(10-15), some sort of focused training? Or just anything that gets me more saddle time, even indoor?

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#8273575 - 07/01/15 02:36 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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If I wanted to get into racing, at some point, what's a good strategy.

Sign up for a race.

Race.

Re-evaluate training.

Training strategy depends on race type & your strengths & weaknesses.

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#8273594 - 07/01/15 02:49 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: bt0]
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I think most races in your area will be crits or centuries or cyclocross or MTB stuff, pick one eh?

I tried and tried and tried to find a 40KTT race, it's a unicorn. If you want to race that distance, go slow on the swim leg \:D

I cant even understand "racing" a century or a crit for that matter [lol crash], and whenever I want to mtb I just want to cruise on the park jumps and stuff, not 14 anymore and I cant seem to race downhill lol scared, I mean I'll go 20-25mph downhill in dirt/rocks/trees but thats about it

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#8274114 - 07/01/15 08:13 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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BCBR - I think I may do this next year. My birthday falls in the middle of the week - what a way to spend a birthday. I'm working on getting my brother to ride with me. Looks amazing. One of my goals is to do more vacations that involve adventures/cycling. I found it

https://vimeo.com/bcbikerace/seven

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#8274168 - 07/01/15 08:57 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: civic00sedan]
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 Originally Posted By: civic00sedan
BCBR - I think I may do this next year. My birthday falls in the middle of the week - what a way to spend a birthday. I'm working on getting my brother to ride with me. Looks amazing. One of my goals is to do more vacations that involve adventures/cycling. I found it

https://vimeo.com/bcbikerace/seven


Better make your decision soon, registration is in a couple days and it fills quick. It's supposedly a great race, but it's very expensive.

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#8274784 - 07/02/15 11:01 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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Ive already decided I'm in - Wife Ok'd as well. Just working on my brother.

I think its pretty reasonable given everything that included, the length of time , location ,etc.


Edited by civic00sedan (07/02/15 11:02 AM)

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#8275415 - 07/02/15 03:25 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: bt0]
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 Originally Posted By: bt0
 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
If I wanted to get into racing, at some point, what's a good strategy.

Sign up for a race.

Race.

Re-evaluate training.

Training strategy depends on race type & your strengths & weaknesses.


this is a good start. honestly at the start ,lots of seat time is the major thing. what kind of racing? road ,crits, mtb, cyclocross...? ride a lot, ride quick up hills and that will take you a good ways to start.

also, train by hours, not miles


Edited by nato2377 (07/02/15 03:26 PM)

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#8275422 - 07/02/15 03:28 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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 Originally Posted By: BellRacer
how do i avoid the mid/late season peak then drop off?

i always get this, usually in september. my fitness reaches a peak and then i just crater thru october and stop riding around halloween, maybe into the second week of november and pick up again in march. i'll do the occasional weekend ride if we get weather where the wind isn't blowing 30mph, then i fight the grind to get back in shape when spring comes back around... which is misery.

i think my problem is that i never really took recovery rides or weeks with lesser intensity work and my body just crashes. doing the sufferfest 10 week training program has opened my eyes to this. they beat the hell out of you 2-3 weeks at a time, and then give you a week to recover, though you still put in some work during it. i'm in week 7 and am really happy with my progression.

what worries me, is how do i train after i'm done with this, with the goals of steadily improving fitness/strength? i've thought about getting a coach, but it seems like an extravagant expense for an amateur rider who doesn't really have any aspirations to race.


if your body is crashing, you need more recovery or easy rides

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#8275425 - 07/02/15 03:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: civic00sedan
BCBR - I think I may do this next year. My birthday falls in the middle of the week - what a way to spend a birthday. I'm working on getting my brother to ride with me. Looks amazing. One of my goals is to do more vacations that involve adventures/cycling. I found it

https://vimeo.com/bcbikerace/seven


Better make your decision soon, registration is in a couple days and it fills quick. It's supposedly a great race, but it's very expensive.


uhhh yeah i just looked...i cant justify that for a race right now lol someday though

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#8275459 - 07/02/15 03:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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did 67 miles this morn with 4800 climb, 17.9 avg. 9hr and 153mi for the week. rolled 3700 for the year
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#8275629 - 07/02/15 07:07 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Got 4 hours of saddle time between yesterday and today with the new oval ring.
It took about 2 minutes to get used to it and now my spin feels a lot more natural, don't really notice that dead zone as much, feels like i'm always in my power strokes. Climbing with the oval is the biggest change I noticed. Seated climbing just feels so much better, it really feels like i'm powering up the hill much quicker than previously. Out of the saddle climbing on more technical climbs is amazing, never lost traction once and it feels less tiring for some reason. I know it's not much saddle time but I can't find a thing wrong, everything just feels so much better.

 Originally Posted By: civic00sedan
Ive already decided I'm in - Wife Ok'd as well. Just working on my brother.

I think its pretty reasonable given everything that included, the length of time , location ,etc.


Are you and your brother equals when it comes to riding? If one of you are better than the other it can be VERY frustrating for the stronger rider. I did a 3 day stage race a few years ago as a team with my buddy, same race as the solo guys, only difference was you had to cross the timing zone and finish area within a minute of your partner. I was a stronger rider than him and it got frustrating having to ride his pace or riding ahead and then stopping and cooling down while waiting for him. If you guys are different riders do it solo so you can each ride your own race and enjoy it at your own pace.

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