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#23377 - 12/07/02 05:51 PM Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	A special thanks to MikeK for keeping these that I posted a long time ago. For 96-00 Civics (EJ6-8 and EM1 chassis codes) 96-00 EX - 165F/80R (P/P) 99-00 Si (EM1) - 201F/99.8R (P/P) 97, 00-01 ITR - 250F/250R (L/P) GS-R - 200F/95R (P/P) CTR - 240/240 (L/P) H&R OE - 280F/190R (P/P) Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R (P/P H&R Sport - 330F/280R (P/P) Eibach Sportline - 310F/275R (P/P) Gold-line GL 2.5" drop - 320/190 (P/P) Gold-line GPS 1.25" drop - 275/160 (P/P) Koni RSK Suspension kit - 154-205/270 (P/L) Neuspeed SofSports - 260F/150R (P/P) Neuspeed Sport - 280F/180R (P/P) Neuspeed Race - 485F/395R Skunk Coilovers -old - 400F/300R (L/L) for civic, 500F/400R for integra Skunk2 Coilovers - new - 500F/400r (L/L) Spoon Full Coilovers - 300/240 Progress Coilovers - 350F/250R (P/P) Progress Lowering Springs - 320F/200R (P/P) Ground Control Coilover - 380F/280R (P/P) (this is the standard kit and the springs are mildly progressive). Tein RA/RE/RS - 783F/559R (L/L) Tein HT - 1119F/448R (L/L) Tein HG - 365F/129-196R (L/P) Tein SS - 448F/224R Tein Flex - 504F/280R Tein S. Tech - 235F/140R Tokico Illumina Kit - 250/123 (P/P) APEX'i WS - 447f/178r Suspension Techniques - needed SSR Cup - 392/280 SSR S1 - 448/448 JIC FLT-A2s - USDM - 504F/336R (L/L) Sparco - needed For 02+ Civic Si (EP3): ~ Very special thanks to Mike (EXavier) for these!!! Progress - 280F/500R Eibach Pro-Kit- 15-20% stiffer then stock Eibach Sportlines - 20-25% stiffer then stock Sprint - 20-25% more then stock H&R Sport - 25-30% more then stock Tein SS - 336F/448R Tein Flex - 448F/559R Tein S. Tech - 157F/291R We are really in need of finding out what stock rates are for an EP Hatch!!! If you've got any to add or have springs for me to test let me know and I'll put them on the compression tested and do a full plot of the springs. I'll need one front and one rear spring to test them. P = Progressive L = Linear _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23378 - 12/07/02 08:20 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
electronspeeder electronspeeder Post Master Sr Registered: 09/15/00 Posts: 9362 Loc: Bay Area	Nice list! It would be nice if you could specify the progressive springs and their corresponding rates.
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#23379 - 12/07/02 09:12 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	Hmmm - great point. I can put Ps next to all the progressive rate springs but I don't have the data on how progressive they are until I put the springs on the load tester. _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23380 - 12/08/02 03:05 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here DELETED
T.O.racer T.O.racer Post Master Sr Registered: 04/20/02 Posts: 7163 Loc: Toronto	Post deleted by Hondaman _________________________ If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, what is baby oil made from?
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#23381 - 12/08/02 08:10 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	Neuspeed sports are soft and I know H&R Sports are stiff and contrary to popular believe, H&R and Neuspeed do not share the safe springs if that's what you're thinking. _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23382 - 12/08/02 10:11 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
SiLooksStock SiLooksStock Post Master Sr Registered: 04/17/00 Posts: 11113 Loc: Columbia, MO	Pro-kit fronts are progressive, FYI. _________________________
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#23383 - 12/09/02 08:32 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
breakneckvtec breakneckvtec Post Master Sr Registered: 03/25/02 Posts: 3733 Loc: NJ	How bout skunk coilover springs? I think they are 400f and 300r...I think....all I know is I have them on my car and they ride rough even with yellows and when I turn the car doesnt lean at all! _________________________ 06 Nissan Pathfinder SE 06 MS6 04 Seadoo GTX wake edition - GPS top speed 62.3 mph w/ no mods
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#23384 - 12/12/02 10:11 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here DELETED
Flex My DX Flex My DX Jr Member Registered: 06/27/01 Posts: 666 Loc: Ottawa, Canada	Post deleted by Hondaman _________________________ FS: 92-95 Civic Power Mirror Assemblies http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=33649&item=2423629554
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#23385 - 12/13/02 08:00 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ludedaddy96 ludedaddy96 Jr Member Registered: 07/11/00 Posts: 363 Loc: Frankfort, Ky	Does anyone have info on the new Eibach race springs or what about the H & R race springs... I can get a really good deal on some H & R race springs, but don't want to get them if the spring rates are too low... _________________________ 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege #456 of 1750 #22 D Stock www.ckrscca.org www.kyscca.org
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#23386 - 12/13/02 05:08 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ryan12321 ryan12321 Sr Member Registered: 08/01/00 Posts: 1011 Loc: Athens/Duluth, GA	Rates for Skunk 2 coilovers are 400F/500R, i think the original skunkworks coilovers were 400/300 but not sure on that but I know the current ones are 400/500. I am pretty sure off the shelf GC are 325/250 for both civic and integras. _________________________ ryan12321@hotmail.com
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#23387 - 12/14/02 03:31 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
clouds clouds Jr Poster Registered: 12/13/02 Posts: 158 Loc: CA	"Rates for Skunk 2 coilovers are 400F/500R" That doesn't look right. Spring rates are always higher up front to account for heavier weight. Handling must be interesting.
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#23388 - 12/14/02 09:50 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
breakneckvtec breakneckvtec Post Master Sr Registered: 03/25/02 Posts: 3733 Loc: NJ	Yes, I think the rates are still 400f 300r, although I heard somewhere that the new ones are 500f and 350r, I dont know what mine are, maybe I will call up skunk2 and find out and post up what I find. All I know is that with the koni yellows I can come around a corner quite fast and the car doesnt lean at all, its amazing. _________________________ 06 Nissan Pathfinder SE 06 MS6 04 Seadoo GTX wake edition - GPS top speed 62.3 mph w/ no mods
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#23389 - 12/14/02 02:47 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
SiLooksStock SiLooksStock Post Master Sr Registered: 04/17/00 Posts: 11113 Loc: Columbia, MO	In reply to: That doesn't look right. Spring rates are always higher up front to account for heavier weight. Handling must be interesting. No, they're not "always higher up front." A lot of people run higher rear rates for chassis balance. It's a common setup for road race cars. RealTime's ITR's use higher rear rates. You can look right at that chart Hondaman posted and see that the stock ITR springs are 250 linear front and 250 progressive rear. So, explain to me how you know "spring rates are always higher up front." _________________________
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#23390 - 12/14/02 10:14 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	Rich - don't you know the engine weighs more so the front springs have to be higher otherwise the car will sag - duh! (this is a joke for anyone that can't see that) Seriously, I've never seen an off-the-shelf spring setup run higher in the rear unless it's a custom order. I've heard the skunk2s are 500F/400R now but don't know for sure. I've also heard the Teg kits were 500/400 while the Civics were still 400/300. It's hard to say but if anyone does call skunk and find out they'll get a big Hondaman pat on the back . Side note - there's a lot of us who do/have run higher rates in the rear with great results. Actually if the rear springs aren't higher in rate you're only hurting your performance. Oh yeah - I got a new spring rate to add . Edited by Hondaman (12/14/02 10:22 PM) _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23391 - 12/15/02 02:09 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
SiLooksStock SiLooksStock Post Master Sr Registered: 04/17/00 Posts: 11113 Loc: Columbia, MO	Yeah, seems like a lot of the kits run higher front rates to make it seem like the ride is smooth compared to the amount of body roll they eliminate. But body roll is your friend! It makes you look like you're going fast when you're not! _________________________
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#23392 - 12/15/02 02:31 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
sarge sarge Sr Member Registered: 10/11/02 Posts: 1229 Loc: Okinawa, Japan	Hey Hondaman, is there anyway you can also post rebound and compression rates for stock and aftermarket shocks as well. Can you also post the recommended shock for each spring and coilover setup so that most people know what they are getting into in terms of ride and save some people buying shocks that are not compatible with some of the stiffer springs listed. Thank you. _________________________ 1992 R32 GTR
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#23393 - 12/16/02 01:21 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
cx_hatch cx_hatch Poster Registered: 03/12/02 Posts: 302 Loc: Ottawa, Canada	can anyone post neuspeed and H&R race springs the rates on them?
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#23394 - 12/16/02 06:11 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	Well I will not recommend shocks to a spring because that's not how it's done. As far as the damping plots, won't happen unless people start sending me stuff. I'll put any type of data up on this but I will not put recommendations, this post is truely a data collection tool only. _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23395 - 12/17/02 03:27 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
tFUnK tFUnK Poster Registered: 02/04/02 Posts: 205 Loc: san jose, ca	CTR 235/235 (L/L) _________________________ automatic EJ8
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#23396 - 12/17/02 06:06 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Huggy Huggy Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 43051 Loc: Cincinnati, OH	What year CTR and are you sure they are linear in the rear? I remember a post a while ago with someone who ordered some CTR springs and I swear they were progressive in the rear (like ITRs). _________________________ Kevin - Owner and Driver of Cars -
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#23397 - 12/17/02 03:19 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ryan12321 ryan12321 Sr Member Registered: 08/01/00 Posts: 1011 Loc: Athens/Duluth, GA	http://inlinefour.com/skuncoilsys.html Skunk 2 400/500 listed here _________________________ ryan12321@hotmail.com
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#23398 - 12/17/02 05:56 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
tFUnK tFUnK Poster Registered: 02/04/02 Posts: 205 Loc: san jose, ca	mine were from a 99. i say they were linear because they looked nothing like the itr's i replaced them with, and driving on them behaves differently than itr, though i could be wrong. _________________________ automatic EJ8
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#23399 - 12/21/02 09:34 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
WiZeBaNaNa WiZeBaNaNa Post Master Sr Registered: 12/11/99 Posts: 4460 Loc: All Over, California	Skunkworks Coils (old school skunk2) were for sure 400f/300r civic and 500f/400r integra... A'PexI WS - 447f/178r _________________________ '06 wrx wagon ['99 skunk2/koni-ed ex - STOLEN - rest in pieces] cleanliness is key...
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#23401 - 12/25/02 01:45 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
Beave0101 Beave0101 servant of egosgame Registered: 02/13/02 Posts: 15941 Loc: San Diego	Odd Rate Request: Sparco! Sparco Springs for a 99 SI. The previous owner installed them on the car and didnt know sheit, and even Sparco doesnt know. Nice Thread!
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#23402 - 01/08/03 12:30 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
98civic 98civic Post Master Jr Registered: 12/05/02 Posts: 1911 Loc: Southern California	are the H&R OE springs the ones for the civic or the integra set up. because i've read most people get the integra set-up because it is stiffer. so is the spring rate listed the civic or the integra? another question is where may i get my hands on a set of ITR springs? acura dealership? thanks guys! _________________________ please support me, BikeMS Bay to Bay 2012 150 miles! http://main.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR/Bike/CASBikeEvents?px=8653498&pg=personal&fr_id=18684
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#23403 - 01/13/03 03:07 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ucied31 ucied31 Poster Registered: 08/18/02 Posts: 212 Loc: SoCAL	the tein spring rates can be found at TEIN i think the S-tech for Civics are 240 lbs/sq. in front and 140 lbs/sq. in rear.... kinda soft?
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#23404 - 01/14/03 11:14 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
IamThFEAR IamThFEAR Jr Poster Registered: 09/02/02 Posts: 152 Loc: Fort Worth, TX.	I'd like to know what the Spoon Progressive Springs are. I know thier sickly expensive and only lower your car 20mm but I hear thier Spoon blue now, used to be black from pics I've seen, and still made for normal (I read stock into that)dampers.......the've got me puzzled..........who knows _________________________ AIM - Overboost72
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#23405 - 01/15/03 05:19 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ucied31 ucied31 Poster Registered: 08/18/02 Posts: 212 Loc: SoCAL	Quote: can anyone post neuspeed and H&R race springs the rates on them? just got an email from neuspeed: "Hello, The working rates that you requested are 485 lb/in up front and 395 lb/in in the rear. For further product information, ordering procedures, or a dealer near you, please feel free to give our sales staff a call at (800)423-3623 or (805)388-7171 or you may fax them at (805)388-0030. Thank you for your inquiry! Stay tuned! Danny www.neuspeed.com " dayam isnt that really stiff????
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#23406 - 01/18/03 06:14 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
4Three 4Three Post Master Sr Registered: 12/21/00 Posts: 5372 Loc: Markham, ON, Canada	Anyone know the rates for the Intrax ARS? _________________________ Fake right, cross-over, shoot lefty
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#23407 - 01/21/03 07:44 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
EXavier EXavier Post Master Sr Registered: 04/27/00 Posts: 5220 Loc: Pensacola, Florida	Tein - all models needed here ya go: http://www.fizzautosports.com/suspension/tein_suspension_honda.html
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#23408 - 01/22/03 11:45 AM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
ucied31 ucied31 Poster Registered: 08/18/02 Posts: 212 Loc: SoCAL	Quote: Tein - all models needed here ya go: http://www.fizzautosports.com/suspension/tein_suspension_honda.html here ya go... just pick your product and go http://www.tein.com/products.html
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#23409 - 01/22/03 03:24 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
IamThFEAR IamThFEAR Jr Poster Registered: 09/02/02 Posts: 152 Loc: Fort Worth, TX.	Neuspeed SofSport for 98 Civic "The working rates that you requested are 300 lb/in up front and 190 lb/in in the rear" Hmm, that was straight from a Neuspeed Rep...........dunno _________________________ AIM - Overboost72
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#23410 - 01/23/03 01:29 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
igotyofire igotyofire Poster Registered: 11/17/02 Posts: 246	Can anyone find out the spring rates for the comptech sport springs for the 99-00 civic Si, they lower 1.5
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#23411 - 01/30/03 03:25 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
chillax chillax Major Member Registered: 09/20/02 Posts: 1446 Loc: london, ontario	Can anyone find spring rates for the spoon non-adjustable dampers/spring combo. They lower your car 2.2 in front and 1.7 in rear. They retail for around $750-850. _________________________ 1493 cc of pure raw fury . . .
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#23412 - 02/10/03 01:01 PM Re: Spring Rates Listed Here
MaD99HatcH MaD99HatcH Poster Registered: 09/01/00 Posts: 312 Loc: Vancouver, B.C. Canada	Can someone find out the spring rates for KG/MM breand springs Dual rate springs www.kgm.co.jp thanks _________________________ '99 VSM Civic Hatch
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