#10784941 - 04/09/26 09:59 AM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Risky Business
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I just went through this in 2024-2025 buying my car and my wife's car, ended up using a dealership and of course the cash price was higher than finance price.
One car I bought form Lexus of Barrie, it was a CPO Toyota trade in that they got with extended Toyota warranty. You would think this would be hassle free, it wasn't. I got the warranty transferred, at purchase the truck had those retractable sidesteps, when you open the door the step folds out making it easy to get in and out, close the door, step retracts. It wasn't working on the day I picked it up, they said it's covered under my extended warranty and to take it to my local toyota dealer to fix.
Long story short, 6 months later, local dealer said it's not covered, the steps were 7k, i had to chase Lexus of Barrie, they sent me to some Barrie Toyota dealer, all this bullshit back and forth, cost me a ton of time, it was resolved in the end, but i had to hound them for months.
With my car I bought it from a dealer that specialized in the brand/make, clean carfax, etc, after i bought i noticed some paint work that i didn't notice at purchase. Car is good had OEM warranty at purchase, but shit like that pisses me off, but that's on me. I also didn't want to finance, they would then jack up the car, so they told me to take the finance loan and make 6 payments, then pay it off. SO i paid 800 in interest for no reason just to satisfy their condition. Another buddy told me i could've paid the loan right after leaving the dealership but the sales guy would get fucked out of his commission. I decided not to be a dick so i made payments for 6 months and then paid it off.
I don't have a good experience, I do agree buying private is the best assuming the seller is honest, but even honest sellers aren't or they are ignorant to issues since most people don't have the level of OCD required to know what I'd want to know about a car anyway.
Going into it with the understanding a used car will have issues on the back end most likely and budget accordingly, even if CPO, even if it's a reputable brand and dealer.
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#10785015 - 04/09/26 12:27 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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private sellers don't want to deal with the bullshit, i get it. I stopped selling my cars, I give them to a buddy who has a dealership and he sells them on consignment and I don't have to deal with the degenerates.
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#10786853 - 04/16/26 05:41 AM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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Good time to be car shopping, have a few friends with dealerships, it's super slow, they are losing money on some cars.
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#10787062 - 04/16/26 01:01 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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BISH0P
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Unpopular opinion with CSI but if you want a 3 row then take a look at the Kia Telluride. I have my family of 5 with my oldest daughter in the 3rd row along with luggage for all fit very comfortably.
I like that the middle row is a bench so in a pinch I could put all 3 girls there and have plenty of room for storage if needed with the 3rd row down.
If it's just moving people around town, I had myself and 7 teen age girls (  ) in there this past weekend and all fit comfortably with leg room.
If my kids were younger I would consider the new hybrid Telluride but since they are in their teens now with my oldest going to University in the fall, I don't think I will need to replace mine with another 3 row.
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#10787065 - 04/16/26 01:05 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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BISH0P
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This was just uploaded today, I haven't watched it yet but may be helpful for you.
Edmunds:
Best 3-Row SUV Hands-On Test: Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Ford, Volkswagen, GMC, Mazda and Nissan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSnaNyd4kI&list=WL&index=1&t=3s
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#10787108 - 04/16/26 03:14 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: BISH0P]
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Unpopular opinion with CSI but if you want a 3 row then take a look at the Kia Telluride. I have my family of 5 with my oldest daughter in the 3rd row along with luggage for all fit very comfortably.
We're a family of 5 as well (kids are 16, 14, 11). I was looking at the Telluride also but I felt that the third row wasn't nearly as roomy/comfortable as the Atlas.
like that the middle row is a bench so in a pinch I could put all 3 girls there and have plenty of room for storage if needed with the 3rd row down.
Most higher trim models offer captains chairs in the 2nd row. My wife prefers a bench so that way one of the three kids isn't always forced to sit in the 3rd row.
If it's just moving people around town, I had myself and 7 teen age girls ( ) in there this past weekend and all fit comfortably with leg room.
Maybe I need to take another look at one. I went to the dealership on the Danforth and they literally only had one used model to show me.
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#10787109 - 04/16/26 03:16 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: BISH0P]
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Thanks. This basically summarizes the research that I have been doing thus far. Interesting that they call out the Atlas for having great leg room in the 3rd row and don't even really mention anything about the 3rd row for the Telluride and Palisade which both got the highest ranking.
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#10787161 - 04/16/26 06:20 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: BISH0P]
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Risky Business
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Wouldn't it make more sense to get a van, it's just so much more practical if you need the 3rd row vs SUV. Neighbour got the 2025 Sienna, this thing is amazing, way better than any 3 row suv.
Atlas seems to be best bang for buck, but wouldn't want that heavy pig on a 2.0T
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#10787171 - 04/16/26 07:43 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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For what it's worth if you are buying new Doug Demouro basically says for normies the best bang for buck is the Telluride.
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#10787361 - 04/17/26 05:55 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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vas is bang on pretty much everything. and buying thru 2026 (esp dec into jan) you'll prob get even better deals. also, do NOT buy an atlas omg   (or, if you must, make sure it's sold/traded the day the warranty is up) if you can manage 5-seater, the new passport is amazing...if you need 7 then yes pilot (black ed is sexy) or mdx, etc. whatever toy/lexus/etc. unsure how good zeeGerman suv's perform today re. reliability
Only recommending Hondas.... shocker!!!! :p
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#10787452 - 04/18/26 06:38 AM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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Good time to be car shopping, have a few friends with dealerships, it's super slow, they are losing money on some cars. If you want to PM me the dealerships, maybe I can check out their inventory.
What car are you looking for specifically? The two I know do mostly enthusiast and high end cars.
Stouffville Toyota/Kingscross Hyundai are good dealers, owners are good guys if you decide to go that route.
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#10787534 - 04/18/26 09:12 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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A2B-Lexus
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I like my cars used as I hate deprecation. Below is my experience.
2017 Acura RDX. Got it one year old. Carfax was good. "high kms" @ 34,000....lots of dealer service. Not CPO but it was fine. Negotiated that they replaced the windshield for me because of a stone chip.
No issues. It has 110 km now and we still have it.
2014 Lexus IS250. It was a 2014 and I got it 2015. Got it from an Acura dealership on a trade. Top trim with every option. When I went to see it, the car didn't start. Didn't think much. Got a jump start and giddy up.
3 months later, the car went dead as I was listening to the radio waiting for a kijiji buyer.
Long story short. The car had an electric drain. 4 visits to Lexus and they couldn't find it. Eventually, I read in the forum that it was the ECU...told the service manager to change it...at first they refused but I told him I've been there 4 times and gotten 3 new batteries under warranty. He got nothing to lose. Did it. Problem solved.
2015 Audo Q3. Got it CPO in 2020 right before Covid 19. 1 year CPO, injectors went. Costed $50 deductible. No issues after that, barely drove it and sold it 2025.
2019 Sienna SE. Super hard to find low kms. Only one that was decent after 6 months of looking was in Burlington. It had ALL SERVICE from Jiffy Lube.....not Toyota but its good enough.
Test drove the car...seemed ok. Bluetooth wasn't working all the time..thought it was just me. Took delivery. Noticed a stone chip on the windshield. The dealer brushed me off. I wasn't going to void the deal since it was $4k less than comparable ones in worst shape.
Bluetooth doesn't work all the time still and the glass is still chipped. It is spreading very slowly and I will likely need to change it in a few years. I could have went back to complain but I don't have the time and energy to drive a hour on the 407 each way to deal with it.
The next used car I'd get, I'd try to do the following:
-Look for a clean carfax with lots of service records (still need to do the visual with the paint panels, fit and finish)
-If possible, buy a car with factory warranty or CPO...less "Gotchas" Even if, it won't cost you out of pocket...just time
-When writing up the invoice, state the condition. ie. no chips on windshield, no visible scratches on any panels, full tank of gas, both summer and winter mats etc
-Go to a dealer who sells that brand you are looking to buy is preferred as they tend help fixing anything that is broken and the cars they take in to sell is themselves is likely not as junky.
-Go to a dealer that is close to you if possible so when you have a problem, you don't have to go drive a hour each way to get it looked at
-Always ask for a better deal. It doesn't hurt to ask...the worst they can say is no.
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#10787550 - 04/19/26 07:15 AM
Re: Buying a Used Car
[Re: A2B-Lexus]
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The big mistake I made is buying from Lexus of Barrie, having to go back there or 4 separate occasions for warranty work basically wasted half a day each time. It was mostly because the spec of the truck was exactly what I wanted and it had full service history at Toyota + CPO, but still a trade off having to go back there. A similar truck locally was about 8k more.
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#10787614 - 04/19/26 05:12 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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A2B-Lexus
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There are usually better deals outside of the GTA. Quebec was tempted but you guys' experience made me totally decide that wasn't as good of an idea as the savings would suggest.
When I had no kids, I had all the time in the world. Now...time is the hardest thing to come by.
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#10789929 - 04/27/26 03:01 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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The big mistake I made is buying from Lexus of Barrie, having to go back there or 4 separate occasions for warranty work basically wasted half a day each time. It was mostly because the spec of the truck was exactly what I wanted and it had full service history at Toyota + CPO, but still a trade off having to go back there. A similar truck locally was about 8k more. Why did you have to go back up to the Barrie Lexus dealership for the warranty work. I thought you could get OEM warranty work completed at any dealership and it doesn't have to be from where you bought it. Moreover because yours is a Toyota. What if you bought it from a non-Toyota/Lexus dealer but it still had OEM warranty?
They told me the retracting steps are covered under warranty and any dealer can fix them. I went to Markville Toyota and they told me to get fucked. CPO warranty excludes certain items like retractable steps for example. So Lexus of Barrie fucked up, and they were out of pocket 8k to replace the steps with brand new ones from Toyota so they did it at their dealership so at least save on labour, but I had to go there a number of times.
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#10790280 - 04/28/26 10:11 PM
Re: Buying a Used Car
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A2B-Lexus
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Note to self, don't get anything with retractable steps. 
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The Atlas has the most room in the third row of all the competition.
