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#10323568 - 09/19/22 09:30 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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What's the feedback from those with variable mortgages? Gonna ride it out? Did you lock in?
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#10323613 - 09/19/22 10:50 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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I have 2 on variable, riding it out.
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#10324004 - 09/19/22 11:15 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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I went with fixed when I moved to my new place with a "big" mortgage 2.5 years ago. Not sure what it will look it at renewal but I am definitely going to ride out the term until the very last day.
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#10324068 - 09/20/22 08:56 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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I have my mtg split into two. One is fixed the other is variable.
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#10324126 - 09/20/22 10:33 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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For VARIABLE rate mortgates, who/how/when do you figure out if the regular payment (monthly, bi-weekly, etc) stays the same for rate hikes, or goes up?

Never knew any of this ....

All I know was, way back on my first home in 2014, I had CIBC 5 yr variable closed, and the monthly payment amount was the same; just the amount that went to interest vs principal changed? (Then again, if anything, the rates went down, not up, like how it is now...)


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#10324152 - 09/20/22 11:09 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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I believe it depends on the lender. Some will keep your payments the same and like you said the amount that goes towards the principal will change. Other lenders will increase/decrease your payments as the variable rate changes.
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#10324193 - 09/20/22 12:09 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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TD/BMO/RBC payment stays the same, less goes into principal. Once entire payment is interest you hit what's called a trigger rate, this is when your payment increases. With all the rate hikes I am close to hitting the trigger rate, if we have another 50bps i will hit it, then need to add a couple hundred so you aren't negative amortizing your mortgage.

CIBC has both, payment stays the same or flexes with rates...the rest of the banks and monoline lenders they jack up variable payment with every rate hike.

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#10325659 - 09/23/22 08:45 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Must be nice for the banks if rates go up and your payment stays the same, that means the term of your loan would extend

Here in Australia when a rate goes up, your payment goes up to include the additional interest. Would need to agree to a term change before the bank did it

In Canada you can negatively amortize your loan, really?
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#10325830 - 09/23/22 12:06 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: nfscheats]
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Only some banks, the reason you can do this is because our loan terms are usually 5 years, so at renewal you will get a much higher renewal to keep your amort. In the US their term loans are way longer, maybe it's the same case in Australia.
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#10328013 - 09/28/22 09:54 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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what the heck, Risky a realtor now?

I thought you were king cannibis ??

Edit: Risky providing some good info in this thread.


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#10328580 - 09/29/22 05:23 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: OracerO]
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cannabis business is sold

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#10328624 - 09/29/22 08:31 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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cannabis business is sold

re was a side hustle, until it wasn't


Damn so much has changed. now you a YouTuber, no more oval faces.

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#10328760 - 09/29/22 10:28 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: OracerO]
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^ it's temporary.

The end goal is to have enough referral business and then I am shutting all that shit down. Can't help it though, it works well \:D

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#10329417 - 09/30/22 11:33 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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I don't know much about this, but I'm reading about the pyramid scheme aka eXp Realty, and the residuals + stock they're getting, and I'm hearing one person has like $12M annually, passive income, thru this scheme .... damn

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
The end goal is to have enough referral business

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#10329497 - 09/30/22 01:12 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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That person is not a realtor, they are just a recruiter.

Anyway, the exp story is going to go down as a great case study.

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#10332265 - 10/06/22 09:57 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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market seems to have stabilized (see...still over priced but whatever )
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#10332304 - 10/06/22 10:20 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
I don't know much about this, but I'm reading about the pyramid scheme aka eXp Realty, and the residuals + stock they're getting, and I'm hearing one person has like $12M annually, passive income, thru this scheme .... damn

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
The end goal is to have enough referral business


When I see EXP or Keller Williams. I'm like Brah .....

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#10336200 - 10/13/22 12:23 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: OracerO]
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the...e-else-on-earth

NO WAI?!
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#10337297 - 10/15/22 07:35 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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nothing about the "brampton loan" being exploited?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-mortgage-fraud-1.6614132
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#10337470 - 10/15/22 06:24 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: c2k]
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There was a lot of stuff left unsaid in that docu, one of my mortgage guys was part of that docu and was interviewed. Interviewing him on Monday and will post on YT about what the docu got right and what was missed.

he is now getting hate mail from other mortgage people for helping the media expose the fraud. This shit been around for like 15 years.

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#10337673 - 10/16/22 01:53 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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This is nothing new. Last big spike with mortgage fraud was during the 2017 fiasco.
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#10337869 - 10/17/22 08:06 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Hatorade]
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it's fucked how the industry gets away with so much, oh wait so do the banks...oh wait, the gov does fuck all to step in where it matters, rich get richer meanwhile everyone else gets bent over
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#10337875 - 10/17/22 08:47 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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rich get richer meanwhile everyone else gets bent over


easy fix is to just get rich man. cmon lfg.
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#10338499 - 10/18/22 05:14 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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rich get richer meanwhile everyone else gets bent over


easy fix is to just get rich man. cmon lfg.


nah, that's too hard. just get a sugar mama or daddy whichever route you wanna get rich faster.
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#10353026 - 11/13/22 09:20 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: c2k]
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New Toronto Vacant Home Tax 2023.

https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/property-taxes-utilities/vacant-home-tax

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#10353086 - 11/14/22 06:21 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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lol another useless policy
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#10353146 - 11/14/22 09:22 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Where's the youtube video on this

Waiting for the whole 'on-site with Bob, who's a homeowner, and let's see what his thoughts are on this new legislation'

<Selfie pans to a black circle covering Bob's face, voice altered digitally>


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#10362872 - 12/05/22 11:08 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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Things getting nasty

Put in an offer 2 weeks ago on a house in woodbridge, was at absolute max of client budget but they were adamant. Had financing condition, couldn't get favourable financing, deal not going through and sellers wouldn't sign a mutual release to release their deposit.

Client can't sleep, shitshow, a few sternly worded letters and a litigator on dial we got the money back, but people are getting nasty.

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#10362917 - 12/05/22 12:38 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Things getting nasty

Put in an offer 2 weeks ago on a house in woodbridge, was at absolute max of client budget but they were adamant. Had financing condition, couldn't get favourable financing, deal not going through and sellers wouldn't sign a mutual release to release their deposit.

Client can't sleep, shitshow, a few sternly worded letters and a litigator on dial we got the money back, but people are getting nasty.


wow...eh? ppl still going for the homerun in these conditions? dafuq? buyer should have chilled out. was there a way to know/confirm with the sellers they may keep the deposit?? that would have prob stopped buyer from diving in.

but yeah fuck dem sellers not returning deposit jfc. i'd be at their front door 24/7 asking for my money back lmao.
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#10363494 - 12/06/22 04:05 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Another rate hike incoming? Possibly tomorrow?
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#10363529 - 12/06/22 05:20 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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.25 to .5 yeah

cucked, the increases are barely helping and inflation is higher than they say/think. but now HOPEFULLY it'll slow and well...2023 onwards they said they'll hold steady where we are now re. rates. when they'll come down is anyone's guess. the central banks and gov caused it and now we pay for it...lovely. they can't keep raising...i hope we're not too fargone because if so, 2023 is gonna be bad and recession in full swing.
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#10364742 - 12/09/22 07:39 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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let it rise!
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#10364868 - 12/09/22 10:20 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: c2k]
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Anyone else get the letter from the city regarding Vacant Home Tax?

https://www.toronto.ca/services-payments/property-taxes-utilities/vacant-home-tax/

All residential property owners in Toronto will be required to submit a declaration of their property’s occupancy status for the previous year. The deadline to declare a property’s 2022 occupancy status is February 2, 2023. The online declaration portal will open in mid-December 2022.


An annual tax will be levied on vacant Toronto residences, payable beginning in 2023.

A property is considered vacant if it has been unoccupied for more than six months during the previous calendar year or is otherwise deemed to be vacant under the bylaw PDF.

The goal of the City of Toronto’s Vacant Home Tax (VHT) is to increase the supply of housing by discouraging owners from leaving their residential properties unoccupied. Homeowners who choose to keep their properties vacant will be subject to this tax.

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#10367622 - 12/16/22 01:27 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Big Tasty]
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are condo sales slowing in the downtown core? Are the prices on a decline?
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#10367629 - 12/16/22 01:45 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: c2k]
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Yes and Yes
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