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#10165289 - 11/26/21 03:29 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 4Three]
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/ar...ries-after-new/

And here we go again:

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The discovery of a complex new COVID-19 variant with dozens of mutations, detected in five countries and igniting a rapid surge of cases in South Africa, has triggered a wave of travel bans and border controls in many countries worldwide.

Scientists in South Africa announced on Thursday that they had identified the worrisome new variant, which might be more transmissible than others. Within hours, Britain announced a ban on flights from South Africa and several other African countries. On Friday, a large number of countries issued similar bans, including Canada and the United States, which prohibited foreign nationals from several countries in southern Africa.

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#10165344 - 11/26/21 08:57 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Big Tasty]
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GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious
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#10165629 - 11/28/21 09:30 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontari...to-11-1.5681660
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#10165630 - 11/28/21 09:31 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious


As did all of them.

We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.

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#10165681 - 11/28/21 02:24 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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#10165808 - 11/29/21 07:32 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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#10165809 - 11/29/21 07:33 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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The life cycle of a virus is strong to weak. It'll happen with covid as well.
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#10165811 - 11/29/21 07:36 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontario-health-official-casts-doubt-on-whether-vaccination-requirements-will-ever-be-extended-to-children-aged-5-to-11-1.5681660


Here's my take on it... if not them, then why us?
If it's mandated on us, then now that kids are accepted into the age range, it should be required for anyone who is eligible.

I can't stand the inconsistencies.


Last week we took our youngest to a bday party at a trampoline park.
"Masks must be warn at all times in the park... unless actively using the trampolines."

So, if you're chilling walking or sitting, you need your mask... but if you're jumping around, breathing hard, next to each other... no need. And also, the ones in that environment are 95% children, who are mostly unvaccinated.

#Logic.
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#10165949 - 11/29/21 12:22 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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Well, the stock markets sure thought it serious ... Everything got fucked on Friday.

'Breakthrough Covid' was a serious thing just .. awhile back, i.e. getting Covid after being vaccinated. Now it's a regular scenario...

The most well-known one I'm aware of is Bryan Adams getting Covid twice AFTER being double-vaxxed...

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious


As did all of them.

We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.

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#10165956 - 11/29/21 12:28 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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Not necessarily?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-viruses-evolve-180975343/

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/ap-b...tion-of-viruses

(Not arguing or starting a shitfest ... learning actually...)

 Originally Posted By: 355-Si
The life cycle of a virus is strong to weak. It'll happen with covid as well.

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#10166001 - 11/29/21 01:02 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
Well, the stock markets sure thought it serious ... Everything got fucked on Friday.

'Breakthrough Covid' was a serious thing just .. awhile back, i.e. getting Covid after being vaccinated. Now it's a regular scenario...

The most well-known one I'm aware of is Bryan Adams getting Covid twice AFTER being double-vaxxed...

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
GNSP.......new variant sounds pretty serious


As did all of them.

We are all getting covid (if we haven't already). There is no hiding, accept and move on.


What is your point? I don't think I follow.

If you don't have allergies/pre existing conditions get vaccinated (the age cut off should really be 40+ here), but whatever I am not going to split hairs, the data is out on covid impact on those under 40 in good health.

If you have issues or pre existing conditions where the vax may put you at risk for side effects or blood clots, roll the dice either way on vax or no vax. Should be discretionary.

Everything else is out of our control, variants, mutations, etc. Vaccinated and in good health, you've done your part, move on, we can't keep living like a bunch of handicapped idiots, it has been 2 years of this shit.

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#10166375 - 11/30/21 07:23 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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I had a patient who was 1st vaccinated in June, then the second dose in August.
He contracted covid in October (with bad symptoms... no hospitalization though) and since recovery, has been showing signs of Long Covid.

This person had no medical history and was 28 years old.

Just goes to show you can still get it.
Do I believe in the vaccine? Yes. Do I think it's the hard line to end everything? Absolutely not.
It's just a reinforcement that helps attenuate the effects of the symptoms and gives you a better shot at not being a carrier or an ICU patient.
But you still gotta be smart about it. But that's a general comment and not just covid. It should apply regardless.
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#10177544 - 12/20/21 08:19 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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what a shit show to try and get a booster or rapid test kit. especially in york region. imma wait this one out.
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#10177960 - 12/20/21 10:37 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Let the Hunger Games begin …

Like all idiots, woke up early to hammer the site … duh, doesn’t open until 8am.

Didn’t read all the local news, everyone can book booster 3 months after 2nd, not 6 mths.

Scrambling but so much shit to chase down between local provincial site vs small pharmacies etc.

I ended up getting my 3rd booster this afternoon at a clinic set up at a shopping mall. From walk in lineup to walking out 75 mins. Got wind from a physician working there that they had extra Moderna and allowed walkins, despite signs all over that NO booster for walkins etc …

Before getting jabbed apparently you could choose Mo or Pf….

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#10178000 - 12/21/21 07:20 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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Allegedly, Moderna has efficacy vs Omicron.
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#10178095 - 12/21/21 10:38 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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York region site yesterday. Everything booked till Dec 30.
So I woke up at 7am today aiming for the Dec 31 to open.

7am - Booking site not working
7:30am - Booking site not working
8am - Working, but Dec 31 is full.
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#10178668 - 12/22/21 11:21 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: porschetr]
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We gave up booking online because it was showing no appointment available until end of Feb. The wife decided it was worth a shot to call in provincial booking line and we ended up booking the booster shot appt for boxing day.

Try calling it in instead of booking it online.
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#10178978 - 12/22/21 05:04 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: c2k]
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why the rush? lol so stupid.

elderly yes ok, healthcare sure.

other than that, meh...same shit's it's been for 2.5yrs.

keep being safe about it and you're most likely going to be fine.

omi spreads easier but not even as bad as original. as usual news fucking spreading fear like crazy and the gov go back to their lockdown bullshit umbrella one-size fits all crap. idiots.
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#10179215 - 12/23/21 08:57 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin Type ARGH!
why the rush? lol so stupid.

elderly yes ok, healthcare sure.

other than that, meh...same shit's it's been for 2.5yrs.

keep being safe about it and you're most likely going to be fine.

omi spreads easier but not even as bad as original. as usual news fucking spreading fear like crazy and the gov go back to their lockdown bullshit umbrella one-size fits all crap. idiots.


100% with you. I don't understand the rush either. I haven't gotten covid, so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing...
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#10179240 - 12/23/21 09:58 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Hatorade]
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i'm not rushing to line up either but it would be nice to get one sooner than later.
i don't understand the constant need for some people to make claims and shout their beliefs. tired of hearing shit like everyone's gonna get it eventually, its not that bad. blah blah blah. if you've gotten your shots, wear masks and social distance then that's all you can do. just keep it moving. anti lockdown people mixing in the the anti vax people at this point. all forms of entitlement. get real.

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#10179279 - 12/23/21 10:59 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzVoS-1TIWI

Data from Ontario on risk of boosters/mix and matching vaccines.

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#10179380 - 12/23/21 12:53 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/road-to-hell/

Guy sounds like some clout chaser. Stirring the pot to establish his name. Would take what he says with a grain of salt.

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#10179655 - 12/24/21 11:07 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Nearing 10k/day in Ontario ... You'd think Omicron is prepping for a marathon or something...

Edited by furball (12/24/21 11:07 AM)

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#10180083 - 12/26/21 02:07 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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3 weeks to flatten the curve...
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#10180221 - 12/27/21 05:34 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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Looks like this variant is nowhere near as serious as the past according to this doc and what he is seeing from Humber Valley hospital. Coincides with what a lot of other docs are saying in the states as well, this is basically a cold:

https://twitter.com/DrJacobsRad/status/1475094747513561090

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#10181527 - 12/28/21 11:05 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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Hmm am I gonna believe what this guy is saying cause he sounds butt hurt things didn't go his way?
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018...aking-away.html
I think I'll wait.

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#10181565 - 12/29/21 07:24 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: BroKe]
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Fuck Doug Ford so much w his bullshit bill 124 which is nothing but a slap across the face for the health professionals.
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#10181960 - 12/29/21 07:37 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Risky Business]
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Guess who has covid?
10 day iso! lol. It's all useless.

My entire shift is wiped into isolation.

3 confirmed, one is totally gonna be confirmed, and 4 close contact iso.

We all wear masks, we all wear goggles, and everything else.

And yet, one person got from his kid who got it from school... and that guy passed it through our entire shift.

My station is empty tonight. 4 ambulances off the road.

The past two nights, there have only been 30 ambulance to cover the entire city... and I was the only Advanced Care ambulance city-wide.

But hey, no problems in the healthcare system at all.
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#10181980 - 12/29/21 08:58 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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#10181987 - 12/29/21 09:39 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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daaamn.....not a good time to need an ambulance.

get better 355

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#10182662 - 12/31/21 08:17 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Update:

Symptoms started on the evening of the 29th. Tickle in the throat.
Overnight was fever and never warm enough or cool enough.

Next day (the 30th), woke up with sore throat... that disappeared by mid-morning.
Throughout the day, I had the perpetual need to clear my throat (cough.)
Fell asleep on the couch around 7pm for an hour... and went to bed last night at 10pm.

Sleep was ok.

Woke up this morning... still tickle in the throat. All else is fine.


I'm not even isolating from my kids. It is what it is.

If it's aerosol, there's no amount of distance that will keep everyone from getting it.

Hoping vaccine + antibodies = stronger.
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#10182728 - 12/31/21 10:02 AM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: 355-Si]
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Well fuck, hope you're feeling better quick dude, and your whole fam isn't infected.

Technically we're under self-quarantine(?) - wife was in 'outside contact' with a confirmed case.

Yesterday was a whirlwind ... with 3 'clusters' that while not direct contact, could've/would've...

a) - FurBalletta goes out with Furballetta Jr in stroller for a 'girls stroller walk/chat' with 2 others (and their respective baby daughters)
- 1 contact's partner CONFIRMED positive next morning via rapid test, 8 mth old daughter on/off fevers, contact herself had negative rapid test.
- PCR test taken 2hrs after rapid test confirmed positive (mother, father, 8-mth old daughter.) Mother's triple-vaxxed (since Nov), father double. Kid still feverish.

- FurBalletta + FurBalletta Jr got PCR test yesterday, awaiting results... (Got denied in Hamilton in a 'healthcare workers-only' PCR walk-in, cuz apparently a) HAMILTON HCW's only, and b) walk-in full)

b) FurBalletta reeeeeeeally wanted to go visit some friends who drove up from US.... Well, thankfully it didn't work out, cuz that whole fam is confirmed positive via rapid test (except 1.) I asked if their dog is positive (no joke .... I didn't get an answer.) Apparently, they are ok to 'drive back into the US' because .... they have a 'quarantine plan'? Apparently they might also be considered essential workers as ... the couple both have scheduled/on-calls for baby deliveries (dual OBGYNs)

c) The 'hookup' the wife has re: PCR tests with 24-hr turnaround got 'put on hold' due to physician getting a 'sore throat' ... so based on current guidelines, she's considered 'positive' until her own PCR test comes back. (The physician was the one that did the PCR tests for a)...)

 Originally Posted By: 355-Si
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I'm not even isolating from my kids. It is what it is.

If it's aerosol, there's no amount of distance that will keep everyone from getting it.

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#10182834 - 12/31/21 01:53 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: furball]
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GNSP
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#10182841 - 12/31/21 02:17 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Got my booster yesterday, arm is a tad sore but that was it.

Wife is still working at a small community in Manitoba where literally every single person has covid. But initial shots and booster are all she does most days.

Shes home for two weeks now and worked a few shifts at her hospital. ICU is almost full, but only 2 covid, rest are elderly Influenza and other trauma types. ER is a shit show with everyone wanting to get tested and other non-emergency visits filling the place up and slowing it down. Wait times can be 4-10 hours.

355-Si... Off load delay for EMS at my wifes ER is 7-8 buses who wait for 3-5 hours.

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#10182867 - 12/31/21 02:48 PM Re: COVID alert fatigue - we be so fucked? [Re: The Postman]
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Spent the last few days at Sunnybrook Critical Care/ICU (visiting), it's pretty busy. ER was slowish when I was there.
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