2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/24/06 07:45 PM
**Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

If you have a paint/body work question, post it in here. If you dont, it WILL be deleted. There are 3 or 4 regular members that are going to be checking in on it periodically to answer any and all questions regarding these subjects. Thank you to those members that are helping out!

-Matt

Edit: You MUST MUST MUST MUST provide a picture of damage if you're looking for a cost estimate. We want this to remain civilized, so any bickering over hypothetical prices will not be tolerated at all.


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/24/06 07:46 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

This is from em1_mike:

as the title says....around what price am i expected to pay to paint my bumper fbp?? if im planing to trade the car in should i let the dealership worry about doing that?


em1_mike
(Jr Poster)
09/24/06 10:24 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

thanks matt!!!!

jellydoughnutt
(Post Master Sr)
09/25/06 02:08 AM
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of course this deepens alot on how much the shop wants to charge you,my civic is yellow and a shop that will do good work and mix the paint so it matches would charge $200.its up to you if you want, you might get more than $200 more in the deal if it is already painted

Milano'99
(Post Master)
09/25/06 05:03 AM
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It has more to do with how much work the bumper will need than what the shop WANTS to charge. If it needs to be painted, it obviously has been hit by something and requires some bodywork. Is it scratched, gouged, chipped? These are things that need to be stated in order to give an accurate estimate. True it would cost about 200-250 to JUST paint a bumper. But if it needs 2-3 hours of bodywork its going to cost more. I think if you want an estimate on something you need to include a picture or its not even worth asking unless it is to JUST paint a panel or part.

jellydoughnutt
(Post Master Sr)
09/25/06 07:56 AM
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if im not mistaken that was what the question was for,just the paint.so yes it depends on how good quality he is looking for and if he wants it to match.of course there are alot of factors that go into just the paint and he wanted a ballpark of what it would cost.if he had 2-3 hrs of bodywork on the bumper a new one is $140

em1_mike
(Jr Poster)
09/25/06 08:36 AM
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its a new bumper and it only needs to be painted....... flat black or fbp im thinking less than 100 hopefully

Milano'99
(Post Master)
09/25/06 06:39 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

These are things that need to be stated in the first post so its more clear for everyone. I only say this because most people ask how much to paint something not knowing or maybe not thinking of the bodywork that may be involved.
And as far as someone painting a bumper for 100 bux its going to be tough. There's probably 75 in materials alone. I'm saying more like 250.


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/25/06 06:56 PM
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My rear lip cost 100.00. Good luck getting someone to paint a front bumper for 100 as well. 250 is a good estimate.

--matt


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/27/06 10:08 AM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

From RealdealSi:

I was wondering if any of you guys have had some experience with any of those "Do-it-yourself" dent removal kits that are floating around. I am looking to do a all out detailing of my car (something that I should have done when I first got the car). When I got it there are a few minor dents and dings in the car that have really been aggrivating me.

I don't expect it to the be a miracle worker, but it would be nice if I could get a couple of the nickle sized dings out of it. I was looking at something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ding-King...033215556QQrdZ1

My future brother in law works at a body shop, and during the spring next year I am going to be purchasing a couple new OEM body pieces (some places on the car have dings / scratches on seams) and the car will full repainted. The reason I am looking for something like this for now, is that I know after I detail the car if I didn't fix some of the smaller dings it will drive me nuts, now that it is fully showing.

I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,
RDSi



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Ok- from what I have heard is that those machine thingies do not work that well at all. The dent has to have NO creases in it whatsoever for these to work, so basically you have to have THE perfect dent for that to take it out. Its always worth a shot as it will save you money IF it works, but dont go thinking its going to for sure...

-matt


Milano'99
(Post Master)
09/28/06 05:14 AM
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Simple 6 am reponse: They are junk. They don't work. Go with PDR or its going to need actual bodywork. And not to sound like an asshole, but if your bro-in-law is a bodyman, ask him for some help. Like I have stated above pics help and if he can see the car and said dents he would be better able to help you. Gooc luck.

realdealSi
(Jr Poster)
09/28/06 11:57 AM
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The reason I asked is because he had mentioned that they weren't too bad. I am going to him @ the tail end of winter this year to repaint the car with a slew of replacement pieces for the car. However I need a new rear bumper, passenger side fender, new hood, front lip, and body side moulding (yeah its a decent amount, but I want to bring it back to showroom condition). I've wanted to do it since I got the car but with getting married it was kind of a set back lol.

The reason I was looking for the dent removal kit was because I have a couple little nickle size dings that I was going to pop out as a temporary solution. Since those pieces are getting replaced when I get all the body work done @ the end of winter I figured maybe it would be a ok temporary fix when I detailed the car. However being that the responses were 0-2 I'll just pass on it and wait to get everything done.

Speaking of body work (although kind of off topic) I have been looking around and pricing out the different pieces that I need, however I cannot find one thing that I am looking for. I need to replace the side moldings and saw a while back that their was a company making them to be quite thin, almost flush to the door. Does anyone know where I could look to get them? I can't seem to find them anywhere.

Regards,
RDSi


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/28/06 01:02 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

www.icbmotorsport.com

-matt


realdealSi
(Jr Poster)
09/28/06 04:05 PM
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Matt - Thanks a lot. Found them on that site @ this link
http://yhst-1408381693991.stores.yahoo.net/jdmciek9tyrt1.html

Problem was, I didn't realize that they were a JDM piece. I thought they were simply a aftermarket product that some company came out with. Price actually isnt that bad either from them. I expected to pay over 200 for them.

Thanks a lot of the help.


mellowbob
(Newbie)
10/01/06 04:26 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

I want to paint the mud guards on my FBP si. What steps do I need to take to prep and paint it? Also, where can I get FBP paint in quantity or in a can?

2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
10/01/06 04:31 PM
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I tried this when i was taking them off. I washed them with soap and water and then lightly scuffed them with 800 grit sandpaper. I didnt clear them,and I only did one for kicks and giggles, but the duplicolor Honda paint matches fairly well, and since it is only mudguiards, thats all ya need.

-matt


Milano'99
(Post Master)
10/01/06 05:20 PM
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Not to knock what you did civicstud, but if you want to know how to properly do it follow these steps...

First of all, are they raw plastic or painted already? If painted already, wax and grease remove all dirt and road grime and then scuff with a gray scuff pad and base/clear.

If they are raw plastic, you will need to again wax/degrease, scuff very thoroughly with gray scuff pad and scuffing paste, clean again, need an adhesion promoter/plastic sealer with some sort of flexing agent, then base/clear.


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
10/01/06 05:42 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

Bah, like I said, I was just doing it for kicks and giggles so I just put half-effort into it. Haha, Im a detailed, certainly not a painter. Nor do I claim to be. Heck, I dont even know where they are anymore. :-P Haha, thanks for the input though.

-matt


needs a Charger
(Post Master Supreme)
10/01/06 07:13 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

Quote:

Edit: You MUST MUST MUST MUST provide a picture of damage if you're looking for a cost estimate. We want this to remain civilized, so any bickering over hypothetical prices will not be tolerated at all.





Not to sound like a broken record, but there's a few problems with this type of question:
1) most of the people here have no friggin' idea what it takes to paint a car properly, and thus, have no idea what an accurate price is.

2) Labor rates, paint/materials costs, and sales tax rates are different from place to place, and this has a huge impact on the bottom line of an estimate.

Thus, it's damn near impossible for someone "over here" to give an accurate estimate to someone "over there."

Oh, and Tony (Milano'99) knows what he's talking about, so none of you goobers should argue with him.


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
10/01/06 07:23 PM
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Haha, good point. But itll still be better to have a pic to provide a "ball park" figure. People just have to take it with a grain of salt and not say "but..but...some dude on CSi said...."


haha,
matt


clubsi_toronto
(Jr Poster)
10/15/06 08:31 PM
Painting front lip*paint is wrinlking* need some help please

Hey guys, I tried to paint my front lip first sanding it down with 400grit, then 2 coats of PLASTIC PRIMER, then wetsanding with 600grit, then applying 2 coats of spray paint, then 2 coats of clear.
What happens is, when i spray the color paint onto the primer, the paint begins to start wrinkling badly, it's so horrible!!! I fully sanded it down again and the same thing happened.


Do you guys think the PLASTIC PRIMER is the problem and it's not holdingup to the paint?? Any corrections to this problem, and the right materials and paint to use? Thanks for any help


Milano'99
(Post Master)
10/16/06 06:31 PM
Re: Painting front lip*paint is wrinlking* need some help please

Is it wrinkling around the areas you may have sanded through? Are you using spray can shit or a gun? Take some pics if possible.

clubsi_toronto
(Jr Poster)
10/17/06 09:01 PM
Re: Painting front lip*paint is wrinlking* need some help please

yes it is!, I am using a spray can, but firsty time off, it was a professionnal Devilbiss GTI gun shot by a pro bodyman and it srill wrinkled. I thought the professional paint was "too strong" So I tried 2 other times using paint can, still same problem.


On a note, I did wetsand the primer right before painting and even though i completely dried it the primer felt "soft". I think the rpoblem maybe the primer getting soft from the water. Maybe i should let it dry after wetsanding it for a day or two????


Milano'99
(Post Master)
10/18/06 05:23 AM
Re: Painting front lip*paint is wrinlking* need some help please

its probably the shitty primer you are using. being from a can it may be lacquer? Also it is wrinkling around your sanding marks because you are putting it on too heavy or something is contaminating the surface. It needs to be stripped completely, dewaxed and degreased, and put down some adhesion promoter and some type of plastic sealer/primer, then sanded, then I would seal it again, the paint it. It may work. But have it done professionally.

SiliconX
(Sr Member)
11/13/06 09:31 AM
Proper way to touch-up

Hiya, I searched but didn't get anything.

I have two small chips on my car. I bought a small bottle of touch up paint from Honda.

How is the best way to fix these chips? Proper way to clean it and application of the paint.


00civicsiboy
(Sr Member)
01/21/07 01:20 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

I have a question for ya..

My 2000 EBP SI is starting to have clear coat damage on the roof and the trunk, would it be possible to respray them and make them blend perfectly and if it is possible, how much do you think this would cost?


eastcoast-si
(Jr Poster)
01/23/07 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: 00civicsiboy
I have a question for ya..

My 2000 EBP SI is starting to have clear coat damage on the roof and the trunk, would it be possible to respray them and make them blend perfectly and if it is possible, how much do you think this would cost?


If you want it perfect, the best way is to re-paint the entire panel. Especially since the problem is on your big flat roof and trunk, its hard to blend out on such a big panel.
Im not sure the price, up here where I'm from, I'd say it would run you around $300-$400, but thats Canadian.


00civicsiboy
(Sr Member)
01/30/07 02:48 PM
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So I would have to paint the entire roof and the entire trunk?

eastcoast-si
(Jr Poster)
01/30/07 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: 00civicsiboy
So I would have to paint the entire roof and the entire trunk?


Thats what I'd do pal


00civicsiboy
(Sr Member)
02/01/07 10:07 AM
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Alright, doesnt sound too bad. The reall challenge would be blending it in...Would it be difficult for paint that is 7 years old?

eastcoast-si
(Jr Poster)
02/01/07 03:15 PM
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If the problem area is near the edge of the panel, it may be difficult to match, but fot the most part, the roof doesn't really butt up to anything. The trunk butts up with the bumper, and quarter panels, if the problem areas are near the edges of the trunk, yea, it may be wise to blend into the other panel.
What color is your car? That has alot to do with the color match, because certain paints fade more or less than others. But if it was my car, I'd paint the roof and trunk and that be it.


00civicsiboy
(Sr Member)
02/03/07 07:59 PM
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I have a 2000 Ebp. It looks like the roof and trunk are beginning to oxidize slightly. ColorX and other waxes havent fixed it..

polishtom89
(Jr Poster)
04/10/07 06:50 PM
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how do u remove spray paint from the interior of a car.

jstcruzin
(Jr Poster)
05/24/07 03:40 PM
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I'm look to have my car re cleared. I have been told that the clear was eaten by an acidic producted used to strip parking lots, who knows? I do know my car looks like crap, already. I have pictures posted here http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1282091/page/0/fpart/1
I was wondering what you guys think it would cost to re clear the car right and if anyone knows of a good place in the miami-southern florida area. Thanks to all.


needs a Charger
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/07 08:00 AM
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I don't know any shop that will just reshoot the clear. Besides, if the acid ate through the clear, it probably ate into the color, too, so it'll need to be painted.

Remember, clearcoat isn't some sort of armor. It's merely clear paint, paint without pigment.


nick220722
(Jr Poster)
06/09/07 05:43 PM
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So while waxing my car today I noticed my first rust spots ever where the paint started to bubble and then its rusting. Its a spot on the front bottom corner of the passenger door. I'm new to body work, how would I get the rust out and repaint to keep it from getting any worse?

BrineSI
(Post Master Jr)
08/31/07 06:25 PM
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Got clipped today, please help out with options, price estimates...

Yeah, so I'm dropping my fiance' off at LAX this morning @ 6am after getting four hours of sleep and when I'm leaving, a bus cuts over two lanes to make it onto the last turn off for the airport loop - anyways, he barely clips my right front bumper - it's so sudden and slight rub that he doesn't stop, I slam on my brakes but am now past the turn off he takes and have a horde of people honking at me. I didn't get a license plate number, the company of the bus, it was just too damn early and it happened so fast. ANYWAYS, it popped my front right headlight so I need to get a new one of those but after cleaning up his paint off my bumper with scratchX, I'm left with about a 4 inch rub where there's no paint but the bumper is structurally fine. Do I just get a respray for this? What would that run? Any suggestions greatly appreciated...


Oh, sorry for the crappy quality pics, it's on my cell since my girl took our good camera. Not bad pictures but it can't quite render my fair ass skin so it makes my hand look like a burn victim... weird.







PurduinaSi
(Post Master Sr)
09/07/07 03:50 PM
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Paint experts - I need some advice!!!!!

I recently got hit while parked at one of the bars here. College campus, not surprised one bit. The way it hit the trunk lid, theres no way it can be fixed. I recently picked up a mint condition trunk lid from the same car, except a different color. I'm going to have the new trunk lid repainted and they will probably have to blend the paint down into the quarter panel. How much am I looking at price wise for this job?


RevEvSI
(Jr Poster)
09/21/07 07:25 PM
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Does anyone know where i can find a good paintless dent removal body shop in Lakeland florida? i have had some bad body work done and need to find someplace good.

Milano'99
(Post Master)
09/23/07 07:58 AM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

 Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
Paint experts - I need some advice!!!!!

I recently got hit while parked at one of the bars here. College campus, not surprised one bit. The way it hit the trunk lid, theres no way it can be fixed. I recently picked up a mint condition trunk lid from the same car, except a different color. I'm going to have the new trunk lid repainted and they will probably have to blend the paint down into the quarter panel. How much am I looking at price wise for this job?


Is this for the BMW in your signature? Its as simple as finding out the labor times for removal and of the old deck lid and installation of the new one and its components, edging the inside of new lid, painting the lid and blending the quarters. As long as there is no body work needing to be done to the used lid(dings, dents etc.)I would rough estimate at around 600-800 bux. Also going to depend on the labor rate in your area. Ask around and go to a decent shop that does BMW (maybe call the dealer near you and see who they use) and get an estimate. Hope this helps a bit.


PurduinaSi
(Post Master Sr)
09/23/07 12:27 PM
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Thanks man, its already taken care of. I got estimates from 4 different shops, all between 800-1000. Being a broke college student, I couldn't afford that. I ended up going to a body shop that my friend owns, and he painted and fixed (some minor damage) the entire trunk lid for $150. Not blended, but OEM paint code with shade matching (using my gas cap). It came out perfect, I can't even tell that it was painted separately. Very happy with the results, and I'm glad I didn't get it blended.

2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
09/25/07 09:03 AM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

 Originally Posted By: RevEvSI
Does anyone know where i can find a good paintless dent removal body shop in Lakeland florida? i have had some bad body work done and need to find someplace good.


I dont know how close to Athens, GA you are, but if youre within a few hours, I know a guy who does GREAT work. PM me if you wanna know.

-Matt


RevEvSI
(Jr Poster)
09/26/07 10:55 PM
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Hey, Thanks Matt, im about 9 hours from there, so its a little far, ill keep looking.

PurduinaSi
(Post Master Sr)
09/27/07 12:53 AM
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dentwizard.com ---> find nearest location

They do great work


RevEvSI
(Jr Poster)
09/27/07 03:48 PM
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Ill check it out. thanks a lot.

DeathLens
(Newbie)
12/11/07 09:03 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

How much would it cost to get a front lip painted and a little bumper work? I don't want my whole front bumper to be painted because I know it's expensive. So is it possible to only paint a small part? My Mugen front lip recently got stolen. I plan on buying a Type-R front lip from ebay. My car got a brand new paint job not too long ago. (Stock color, Milano Red). So I guess it's not that hard to match the paint. Since the mugen lip is gone, the old paint is showing a little bit and the part where the lip was planted on is messed up.

Before:


After:


Also, my front bumper is a little low (as you can see, theres a gap in the hood). How much would it cost to get it fixed?


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
12/11/07 09:27 PM
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5-600.00 on painting and maybe 200 to get bumper aligned. All VERY loose estimates as Im the detailer not the body work guy. I wouldnt be surprised if someone tried to tell you 1000.00 for everything either. And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE research your body shops before you decide on one, there are tons of shady people out there just trying to make a quick buck.

-Matt


DeathLens
(Newbie)
12/11/07 09:34 PM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

How about if I bring the front lip to the shop? What's the range cost to get just the lip painted?

zdizzle
(Jr Poster)
02/07/08 08:46 AM
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My 96 ek is n need of some serious lovin, im thinkin of rattle can'n it fb, untill my friends comes back in town to paint. Any important steps i should take besides washing it and taping. Do i primer over the stock paint? or just spray it black. i had a wreck and had to replace the front end wth ugly black parts while the rest of my body is silver. MY only body exprience is fittin parts any help will be appreciated

PurduinaSi
(Post Master Sr)
02/13/08 02:58 PM
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Flat black? Flat black is hard to paint, especially with a rattle can. 9/10 it will look blotchy with some areas darker than the others. I doubt your paint is bad enough that a DIY flat black paint job is the only cure.

BTW: The "flat black" cars you see like on Rob and Big and on high class ferrari's/MB's are all done professionally with high end matte black paint, not rattle can flat black. Very hard to duplicate by yourself.


2000CheetahStud
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/08 02:03 PM
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Yea, like Bobby said, that is a tough color to paint well.

 Originally Posted By: DeathLens
How about if I bring the front lip to the shop? What's the range cost to get just the lip painted?


My rear lip cost me 100.00 to get painted, use this as an estimate.

-Matt


**DONOTDELETE**
()
05/03/08 06:02 PM
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So what are my chances of getting this oxidation to come out with a good rubbing compound or any other suggestions you may have? The car looks good but up close after i used mcquires paint cleaner, then Zymol wax a few oxidation spots REALLY stood out! What you guys think of Zymol btw? Thank you very much in advance.





ZIGZAG
(Newbie)
12/04/08 03:21 AM
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i really wish to finished my car respraying by this next week dammit!

elohel
(Newbie)
03/30/10 12:33 PM
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i just got my rear bumper redone. i see a bunch of sharp points (almost like grains of sand under the paint) on the bumper, some globbing on the bottom where they sprayed too heavily, and then the very edge of the bumper has like no paint. should i bring it back or are these normal traits of a redone bumper?

ShWiz
(Newbie)
03/03/14 08:19 PM
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I'm toying with the idea of painting some parts of my chassis. I haven't picked out any colors yet, but ideally I'd want something bright and long-lasting. Any advice on type of paint or equipment I'd need?

Advantage Auto M
(Newbie)
10/14/15 01:37 AM
Re: **Paint and Body work Questions HERE ONLY!!!!!!!!**

The item is long gone from Ebay. But I had a big dent at one time and had a contractor who works for a local dealer do an amazing job fixing that.

I don't think bondo or paint job would have even got it to that. Considering I kept the original paint.

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