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#7911145 - 10/13/14 02:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 137]
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#7911149 - 10/13/14 02:08 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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You care about %s because you're basically a dwarf and you need to find some sliding scale that can give you a false sense of measuring up
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#7911157 - 10/13/14 02:13 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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I care because anyone not stupid understands weight class.
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#7911969 - 10/13/14 10:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die.
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#7911988 - 10/13/14 10:33 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here.

Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable?

So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints.

Keep reality in check.
Yes.


But see, you're a large male too. You can bench 3 plates, dead 500 pounds and run 10 miles and not have to have a blog, youtube channel, avatar, etc all about it. And, no homo, you look the part too. And, much like me, before you leaned out you were just large but still hefty.


It's like wolfsburg too. He's always been able to out bench me. I think he repped my max like 3-4 times. (365)

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#7912165 - 10/14/14 07:48 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die.
You're talking two different things.

All weight lifting is about is personal achievement. That is where weight class comes in. Comparing head to head is for nothing. It's not is if people ever really do anything with all the weight they push, so its all for personal goals.

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#7912231 - 10/14/14 08:36 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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#7920697 - 10/19/14 11:26 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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#7921049 - 10/19/14 03:10 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: TexasSI]
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#7921099 - 10/19/14 04:02 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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#7921112 - 10/19/14 04:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: TexasSI]
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#7922410 - 10/20/14 01:51 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add.


do tell...

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#7922418 - 10/20/14 01:54 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly.


deca is known for making you hold water and is not a typical cutting drug... dbol definitely holds water and you'll gain weight hella fast... but fucking with orals is risky, moreso than pinning...

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#7922423 - 10/20/14 01:56 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
It's usually obvious if they are juicing. There is a certain thickness where someone doesn't really get to naturally. It is very common to see a bloated looking gut too. They can have a 6-pack, but their stomachs stick out quite a bit.

Many people are just used to years of Muscle and Fitness with a jacked guy on the cover claiming to be all natural when he was anything but, so they think people can look like that with just hard work/diet.

I think juicing is just becoming incredibly common now too. My wife works with a guy who has a scrawny SO. He just deciding one day he was going to juice and workout lol Ares.

 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly.


This is one of the reason it never insterested me. I have no clue what to do. Plus, like most illegal things, I'd have to find a dealer for it and trust the product was safe.


bloated gut is likely from GH and especially insulin use... you're going hard core if you're pinning slin on the daily though...

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#7922437 - 10/20/14 02:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
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lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture.


How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it
Maybe for some.

But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions".


And there's this.
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Much has been mentioned about the effects steroids have on the body. When taken in high amounts, steroids cause the testosterone level to fluctuate and this can lead to a number of sexual dysfunctions including erectile dysfunction. This is so because the body produces hormones similar to steroids in the reproductive organ of a man.

When steroids are used it tends to cause the body to stop producing the hormones and this will lead, in some men, to a temporary if not full loss of the ability to have and keep an erection.


If you run high test, you're going to conversely run high estrogen as it aromitizes... You'll need to run a good AI to combat the high estrogen...

Some compounds will shut your dick down, but not for every user... Test alone surely isn't going to shut your dick down, unless you are half a pussy and your body hates test and just converts it to estrogen and you grow some titties...

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#7922445 - 10/20/14 02:04 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other

To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all


deca is hit or miss with the user... i've had no ill effects from it, but I have heard others who have...

tren is hit or miss with the libido as well... either fuck like a porn star, or the dick stops working... lol... probably not a good thing when your libido is high, you're on tren so you're more irritable to begin with and no pussy on top of that...?

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#7922453 - 10/20/14 02:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
Seriously though, could you outline a typical "cycle". I'm curious as to how much, how often, how long, how many things.



500mg test per week split into two shots...
10mg Aromasin e4d or AS NEEDED...

That's a typical starter cycle and you will see results quickly...

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#7922459 - 10/20/14 02:09 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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 Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone
I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting.


they don't... they should only be incorporated in by experienced users and liver support should be taken surely... 4 weeks max on orals... a lot of people jumpstart a cycle with dbol so gains come quick until the oils start to build up in the system...

oh and if you're scared to pin yourself don't even bother...

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#7922463 - 10/20/14 02:10 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
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links for both pls.




http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex


Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off?


if you're going to do it right you don't go off... you blast and cruise... never going off test...

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#7922465 - 10/20/14 02:13 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
Its generally not advised to take liver support supplements when on a cycle.


taking things like milk thistle when taking orals is not a bad thing... You can wait tip after you come off the orals but that's 4 weeks of damage you're doing to your liver...

oh and if you DRINK, please don't be a moron and use orals...

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#7922472 - 10/20/14 02:17 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Euphoricuck]
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He looks natural to me.
lol
clearly you have NO clue.


lol no shit... yeah that's totally natural... lolololol

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#7922474 - 10/20/14 02:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: TexasSI]
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 Originally Posted By: TexasSI
Going back a bit...
So should I not waste my whole life trying to achieve traps/shoulders like that huge mf on page 9. Is it really a matter of juicing. I pound and work on shoulders HARD and have yet to get them any where close to my ears. Sad if no...but I definitely recognize the cheaters at the gym now lol. If no juice, genetics. I need them


trap insertions are genetic... and if they don't insert high on your neck you ain't gonna get that look bro...

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#7922510 - 10/20/14 02:43 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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oh drugs are bad kids, do not do them...

brb going to attempt 325 bench... #rip

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#7922741 - 10/20/14 05:15 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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Youre juicing now?
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#7922874 - 10/20/14 06:36 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Yeah...

I'm old enough that trying to make any more gains naturally is futile... I've been plateaued at 295 for so long and was unable to hit 300 for months on end...

Just hit a 320 tonight...

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#7922903 - 10/20/14 07:03 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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Nice.

Whats your cycle like?

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#7923050 - 10/20/14 08:53 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg

Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test...

I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals...

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#7923059 - 10/20/14 09:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg

Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test...

I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals...
damn you must be large now thats almost 15 pounds more thsn me


Good stuff

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#7925231 - 10/22/14 09:28 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Holy fuck Diezel, you must be a monster now! Pics.
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#7925573 - 10/22/14 12:11 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg

Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test...

I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals...


so, for someone who knows nothing about juicing, do you maintain the gains that you get if you get off of the sauce? that's a pretty serious change to your body composition in a short time. is it sustainable without the chemicals?

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#7925808 - 10/22/14 01:29 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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Short answer: Not really. A little bit, but the majority goes away with the juice.
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#7925851 - 10/22/14 01:44 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Silock]
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Short answer: Not really. A little bit, but the majority goes away with the juice.


Wouldn't it be more dependent on the type of weight gained and the speed it was gained? That is, if someone blows up on anadrol, high test, deca, and who knows what else, he would be more likely to lose a good bit of the weight than the guy that runs lower test, masteron, and anavar?

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#7925863 - 10/22/14 01:48 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg

Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test...

I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals...
hmm notbadobama.

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#7925868 - 10/22/14 01:49 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Silock]
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Short answer: Not really. A little bit, but the majority goes away with the juice.
majority? eh... A lot of variables going on. cant conclusively say " majority" imo.
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#7925936 - 10/22/14 02:12 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Yes, wayy too many. Do it correctly (while on, then post cycle) and the losses will be minimal.

I've seen guys go off, lose the bloat, flatten out a little and look even more jacked when they were on. They did it correctly. Then you have the kids who swell up on orals, eat like shit, then slack off a ton post cycle because they can't move the weight they once did. This is the recipe for failure and major losses. It was all too common while I was in college.



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