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#109919 - 08/10/05 03:07 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
jwyoung Offline
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wow those were some good numbers even w/o a head job
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#109920 - 08/10/05 09:08 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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I concur, really impressive B16s I am seeing. When you guys decide to do some bottom end work/change it, then you're going to see some serious power.
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#109921 - 08/10/05 10:56 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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yea, I'm planning a b18c5 block.
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#109922 - 08/11/05 03:22 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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Still strong numbers for a b16 w stage 1's, congratulations dude. I bet that thing rips pretty hard. What do you have your rev limiter set at?
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#109923 - 08/11/05 03:46 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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it is possible to go to big on a header.. exhaust velocity can slow down if the pipes are too big for the motor. But it just could be that you need a bit more work to take advantage of the larger diamter header.

I've always liked my old DC header (4-2-1). it offers very good "all around" performance, and doesn't sacrifice low end like some big collector 4-1 headers do. Its a very good daily driver header.

I also had a jdm ITR 4-1 header I put on my last car (B18C1), and the losses below 5000 rpm were very noticable. top end gains were pretty good though, so its a trade off. For a DD, I'd much rather have a DC 4-2-1 header, as accelleration was much better through the midrange (and cruising on the freeway too).

And on the dynojet, a catco high flow cat showed a loss of ~4 horsepower through a 2.25" exhaust, so it wasn't that much.

but in the end, each car is a bit different, so it can take a while to figure out exactly which combination works best for your setup.

Good luck.
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#109924 - 08/15/05 03:48 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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Ok here are some pics.

RMF & my old DC




SMSP 300 spriral cell cat with flex pipe & my old powercore race cat


RMF in engine bay
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2000 BMW 328ci

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#109925 - 08/15/05 03:49 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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jezus that tq curve is all over the place
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#109926 - 08/15/05 03:57 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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The TQ curve isn't as crazy as it looks. Shawn's dynapack scales things differently then most mustangs, or dynos. The scale is very tight. Change in 1-2 ft.lbs looks huge, even though it isn't. If you widen it out the RPM range out (X axis) to match your typical sheet it would flatten.
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#109927 - 08/20/05 11:34 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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strsi, are you going to put bigger cams?
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#109928 - 08/21/05 10:54 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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no, I dont have enough CR or displacement to run bigger cams. I plan to eventually swap in a b18c5 block, then I'll be looking for bigger cams. Probably s2 pro1's.
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#109929 - 08/21/05 07:16 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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Damn good numbers. I need to get mine on a dyno to see what numbers i have but all the dynos here are shit. I may go to NC to get mine done somtime.
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#109930 - 08/23/05 01:59 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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i would have got pro1s but you cant argue with $300 for a set of new stage 2s
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#109931 - 09/02/05 06:03 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
jdemoney23 Offline
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so is that a thumbs down to the J's intake? was thinkin about getting one. i heard they have good throttle response... but hp wise its a no no?
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#109932 - 09/03/05 02:12 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
strsi Offline
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its not bad, but not great either.
The aem itr intake is what i used. its 3" in diameter & had to be cut & stuff to fit. Lot of work.
Normal b-series intakes are 2.75. The j's would probably be similar in #'s to those.
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#109933 - 09/03/05 10:09 AM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
b6ixteen Offline
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Did you use a tapering clamp hose to fit the 3" AEM ITR? I am thinking of a 3" with vel. stack SRI and K&N filter to see how that works.
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#109934 - 09/03/05 12:12 PM Re: My dyno results, all motor b16
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what happens is the intake kicks straight right once it goes into the fener well. obviously there is no room there on a civic to fit a filter.
so first I cut it at the end where it kicked out right.

though that would be all. hooked it up & droped it into the hole into the fender well. but then i was left with no room to put the filter cuz the pipe was on top of the fender lining.

so then I took the part I had cut & cut it a little shorter cuz it was still kind of long. this left me with a peice that made a nice 90degree bend. so i bought another aem 3" connector & connected that peice to my intake piping in the fender well. I positioned it so the bend put it facing strainght foward towards the front of the bumper. that gave me room to fit the air filter so that it wasn't touching anything.

sorry no pics. but if u want to do this all u have to do is buy the part & look at it & u'll get the idea of what needs to be done. just read this again to help u out maybe.
sawz-all & a file are ur friends for this. oh & a drill cuz u need to drill a hole for the intake air temp sensor that si's have pluged into the intake.
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