For personal use which is mostly weekends going downtown it's like 40-60 between wife and i

Why not include your business use?

So you base your entire traffic argument on the stretch of road between Leslie - Warden along highway 7 (which is currently under construction and is the busiest place of the whole city)...this is how all of markham is?

Got it, very insightful,

Of course I can, I actually live here and I get around really well with the 407. How is that not relevant when some wally is sitting idling in traffic in a construction zone on highway 7

All things considered of course there is traffic here, but it sure is no Mississauga/Brampton/Milton shitshow.

I Call BS on that... $40 -$60

You can fly along the 407 anywhere in the gta . Dafuq kind of asshatery is this

Just got back from a lunch at east beaver creek via hwy 7. Took us 30 mins. to get there from Warden. For reference: 35mins. I go Warden to Etobicoke!!!

And there was only a small section around Warden under construction. From Woodbine to East Beaver was no construction. Just a mess of a traffic jam. Go Markham... NOT!

Fucking Markham hwy 7. What a disaster! Damn driver was too cheap to take 407 too.

Right cuz all of Markham revolves around the 407.

You are so full of shit

Google traffic right now shows 15 mins from warden/7 to east beaver creek. Drama queen much?

Me too! He says he uses it "all the time".

I use it 3 days a week and I'm in the high 200s.

Yeah.. now... at 3:00PM. I was in that shit at 12:30.

did anyone twist your hand to work in Markham? Whose fault is it that your employer doesn't cover your 407? Quit, go work in Mississauga LOL

traffic is arguably worse now tho, why you crying?

No it's not. You said it yourself: Google maps just said 15mins.

Are you contradicting yourself too?

LMAO @ judging markham traffic by hwy 7, a main street that has hardcore construction right now but otherwise is like what, 8 lanes wide? nah that doesn't move traffic.

also how is 407 NOT a viable option? do people in new York say ah nah, can't take that bridge, there's a toll, let me drive alllll the way around the state; Brooklyn is a shitty place to live because tolls.

you guys high today or something? lolol

I use 407 weekly, just because I don't depend on it daily doesn't make it any less of an alternative.

I don't need to cross Markham daily because I am not a dumbass that lives in Mississauga and commutes across the GTA to Markham for work. My commute to work is traffic free and less than 30 mins on non toll roads...

zero relevance

I said it's not good for metrics. You can't use the 407 as a measure of a city's traffic congestion. The reason because less than 20% of the population actually use it.

So when you compare markham traffic vs. Mississauga, the 407 can't really be used in that calculation.

But the biggest reason is because Risky is the only Markhamite that uses it to cross the city in 2 mins. Everyone else is stuck on hwy 7 wishing they were Risky.

Ya great example of a toll system in a different country that's pennies on the dollar by comparison and covers the entire state.

Troll agreeing with the complete dumbass example simply because it's in support of his troll vortex.