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#8704225 - 06/23/16 09:20 AM Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec
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#8704242 - 06/23/16 09:32 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: c2k]
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I was like wtf is wrong with these people until I read this.

Drivers with two or more occupants will be able to use the lanes without a permit for free.
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#8704294 - 06/23/16 10:20 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: porschetr]
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Right on, keep that shit in the west end.
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#8704316 - 06/23/16 10:31 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Right on, keep that shit in the west end.


Like Maaaaaaaham traffic flows better than the west end. Must be some good Russian vodka you're drinking out east or could be a knock-off brand from pac-mall.
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#8704324 - 06/23/16 10:32 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: c2k]
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The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.
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#8704335 - 06/23/16 10:38 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: phoenixrage]
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#8704374 - 06/23/16 10:54 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: porschetr]
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 Originally Posted By: porschetr
I was like wtf is wrong with these people until I read this.

Drivers with two or more occupants will be able to use the lanes without a permit for free.


Right... am I wrong here? So what they're doing is offering single driver cars access to the HOV for $180 for 3 months. I don't see how this is bad. If people are willing to pay for use of the HOV, why not?

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#8704408 - 06/23/16 11:06 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: c2k]
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$60/month, or $3/day roughly, is a drop in the bucket for a lot of people who come from Oakville, Burlington. Those permits will be snapped up rapidly.
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#8704414 - 06/23/16 11:09 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: phoenixrage]
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The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes

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#8704468 - 06/23/16 11:31 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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$60/month, or $3/day roughly, is a drop in the bucket for a lot of people who come from Oakville, Burlington. Those permits will be snapped up rapidly.


This!

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#8704765 - 06/23/16 02:32 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes


And it'll take you 45 mins from the north of Markham to reach the 407.

I drive Mississauga and Markham on a daily basis. Markham traffic is awful! That 404 is a mess!
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#8704775 - 06/23/16 02:41 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Wildout]
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right but for 3 months you'll be on time or early for work, the rest you're fucked when you don't have a permit lol

you can bet your ass that uber drivers and cab drivers will be all over that permit shit.


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#8704781 - 06/23/16 02:51 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: titty sprinkles]
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uber drivers by default won't need the permit because they're HOV
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#8704793 - 06/23/16 03:05 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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even when they don't have passengers?
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#8704798 - 06/23/16 03:09 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
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The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes


And it'll take you 45 mins from the north of Markham to reach the 407.

I drive Mississauga and Markham on a daily basis. Markham traffic is awful! That 404 is a mess!


wat?

it takes me like 2 mins to get to 407.

Also how does driving from Mississauga to warden/407 give you any sort of idea what ALL of Markham is like? Sound reasoning, hey guys I was on 403 by hurontario, THEREFORE ALL MISSISSAUGA TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE, WORST IN COUNTRY.

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#8704811 - 06/23/16 03:14 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: titty sprinkles]
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even when they don't have passengers?


oh. yeah. no. hahah

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#8704885 - 06/23/16 03:54 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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Wont this fill the HOV with more traffic and thus negate the whole point of the lanes anyway?
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#8704897 - 06/23/16 04:04 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: The Postman]
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That's why only 1,000 permits.

Buy them and wait till it reaches max.
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#8705565 - 06/24/16 09:35 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes


And it'll take you 45 mins from the north of Markham to reach the 407.

I drive Mississauga and Markham on a daily basis. Markham traffic is awful! That 404 is a mess!


wat?

it takes me like 2 mins to get to 407.

Also how does driving from Mississauga to warden/407 give you any sort of idea what ALL of Markham is like? Sound reasoning, hey guys I was on 403 by hurontario, THEREFORE ALL MISSISSAUGA TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE, WORST IN COUNTRY.


I do some shopping in Markham in the evenings. I do some shopping during lunch time. All in Markham. And it's god awful.

And I call your B.S. on the 2 mins! You're probably right next to the 407. All north-south major roads are a fucking mess in Markham. Woodbine, Warden, Leslie... they're all crap in the morning, lunch and evening. And don't get me started on the disaster which is Hwy 7!!!
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#8705573 - 06/24/16 09:40 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes


And it'll take you 45 mins from the north of Markham to reach the 407.

I drive Mississauga and Markham on a daily basis. Markham traffic is awful! That 404 is a mess!


wat?

it takes me like 2 mins to get to 407.

Also how does driving from Mississauga to warden/407 give you any sort of idea what ALL of Markham is like? Sound reasoning, hey guys I was on 403 by hurontario, THEREFORE ALL MISSISSAUGA TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE, WORST IN COUNTRY.


I do some shopping in Markham in the evenings. I do some shopping during lunch time. All in Markham. And it's god awful.

And I call your B.S. on the 2 mins! You're probably right next to the 407. All north-south major roads are a fucking mess in Markham. Woodbine, Warden, Leslie... they're all crap in the morning, lunch and evening. And don't get me started on the disaster which is Hwy 7!!!


pretty much this. i try to use as many shortcut/side streets as i can if i head anywhere near hwy 7 (and even 16th now) during busy times.

i can't fucking WAIT for that bridge to be done just north of hwy 7...it'll connect the road where seneca is to east beaver creek where that new short condo building is. should ease some hwy 7 congestion which is ridic now. i believe they plan on bridges between 16th and major mack as well...hope it happens.

wish they could improve the N-S doe.

granted, sauga has become retarded, esp with brampton growth.
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#8705582 - 06/24/16 09:47 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Just A Troll]
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The problem with markham is the city planners didn't plan the roads well enough to allow for decent expansion.

west end is for the most part a better layout.


I have zero issues, 407 and I cross markham end to end in like 3-4 minutes


And it'll take you 45 mins from the north of Markham to reach the 407.

I drive Mississauga and Markham on a daily basis. Markham traffic is awful! That 404 is a mess!


wat?

it takes me like 2 mins to get to 407.

Also how does driving from Mississauga to warden/407 give you any sort of idea what ALL of Markham is like? Sound reasoning, hey guys I was on 403 by hurontario, THEREFORE ALL MISSISSAUGA TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE, WORST IN COUNTRY.


I do some shopping in Markham in the evenings. I do some shopping during lunch time. All in Markham. And it's god awful.

And I call your B.S. on the 2 mins! You're probably right next to the 407. All north-south major roads are a fucking mess in Markham. Woodbine, Warden, Leslie... they're all crap in the morning, lunch and evening. And don't get me started on the disaster which is Hwy 7!!!


So you base your entire traffic argument on the stretch of road between Leslie - Warden along highway 7 (which is currently under construction and is the busiest place of the whole city)...this is how all of markham is?

Got it, very insightful,

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#8705587 - 06/24/16 09:51 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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You can't argue against this.
Markham traffic is a shithole.


You can't base your argument on the 407
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#8705592 - 06/24/16 09:56 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Of course I can, I actually live here and I get around really well with the 407. How is that not relevant \:\| when some wally is sitting idling in traffic in a construction zone on highway 7

All things considered of course there is traffic here, but it sure is no Mississauga/Brampton/Milton shitshow.

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#8705603 - 06/24/16 10:03 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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dude 407 doesn't count lol. of course you can fly anywhere in maaaaaakaaaaaam with that E-W.
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#8705617 - 06/24/16 10:11 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Why doesn't it count, is it a restricted road or something? I don't get the logic here...is someone FORCING all the people to be on highway 7?

It's a perfect highway that runs along the most congested road in the city...it's a great alternative. If it didn't exist there is no chance of me living where I live, I'd kill myself if I had to take highway 7 to get home

So yes for all intensive purposes it does count.

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#8705658 - 06/24/16 10:34 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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shit cost money brah and we all broke ass nigraaz, so no, it don't s0n.

depends on usage though. if i need to be somewhere far in decent time they yeah i'll use it. if im shooting over across markham i wont bother but i'll also do my best to avoid hwy 7 as well. (i'm mostly just north of it anyways so it's easier to do so).

i can understand if you used for work daily then sure of course use it vs. hwy 7 during rush hour times.
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#8705708 - 06/24/16 11:02 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Vas what's your monthly 407 bill?
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#8705804 - 06/24/16 11:55 AM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: iamfob]
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#8705822 - 06/24/16 12:11 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: iamfob]
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For personal use which is mostly weekends going downtown it's like 40-60 between wife and i
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#8705830 - 06/24/16 12:24 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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shit cost money brah and we all broke ass nigraaz, so no, it don't s0n.

depends on usage though. if i need to be somewhere far in decent time they yeah i'll use it. if im shooting over across markham i wont bother but i'll also do my best to avoid hwy 7 as well. (i'm mostly just north of it anyways so it's easier to do so).

i can understand if you used for work daily then sure of course use it vs. hwy 7 during rush hour times.


Well if you took it once a week to bypass the hwy 7 traffic construction madness you are looking at what, $20/month?

You can't swing that? c'mon dawg

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#8705841 - 06/24/16 12:26 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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I Call BS on that... $40 -$60
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#8705845 - 06/24/16 12:29 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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#8705847 - 06/24/16 12:31 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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No way your 407 bill can be that cheap.
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#8705848 - 06/24/16 12:31 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Costs $3.50 each way for me to 404 on a weekend, $7 round trip.

$50/$7 = 7 round trips/month

such lies, wow

Anything else is work related, that's not out of my pocket.

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#8705850 - 06/24/16 12:32 PM Re: Pilot project: QEW toll lane to cost $180 for Oct-Dec [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Suddenly, I feel bad about my 407 Bill.
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