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#8225478 - 05/27/15 02:22 PM Convince me not to...v.iPhone
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I've tried everything EXCEPT iphone. BB, Windoze, Android, u name it.
I just want something that works, and doesnt have a gigantor screen. A phone should be the size of a phone, and a *smart* phone should work and be reliable. Unfortunately, my android phone(s) have not been the most stable, and over time, the android experience deteriorates.

A *smart* phone should have a good library of applications. Windoze unfortunately didn't fit that bill, but I otherwise liked it the most.

Right now I'm running around with a LG G4 and despite it being a top shelf new phone, it is not that stable/reliable, and the battery life sucks. And anything over 5 inches (this is 5.5) is too big imo. That brings me to iphone (5s or 5c). 4inch. Much better.

From what I can tell from those who own one, they simply work. That's what I'm hoping for. Thoughts? is it a good move? I can basically buy a brand new 5c for 100. No contract, yada yada yada. I'm not after the latest and greatest. Just want reliable and decent battery life.
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#8225483 - 05/27/15 02:25 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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lol I think you pretty much answered your own question/convinced yourself already.
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#8225490 - 05/27/15 02:28 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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No, i'm not certain of that.
I havent actually lived with an iphone day to day, so I'm not sure that I'm just looking at it via "the other side of the grass is always greener"
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#8225529 - 05/27/15 02:47 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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iphone and good battery life do not go together.

i was looking at getting rid of this POS iphone5, i replaced the battery already and it's still shit. then i dropped it and cracked the ever living shit out of the screen, so i thought it would be a good time to jump ship to a sony z4.

long story longer, rogers said it would be a $350 early upgrade, and i would have to pay $20 more a month for 1 gig less of data.

pac mall for a new screen for $50 it was.


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#8225532 - 05/27/15 02:47 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
No, i'm not certain of that.
I havent actually lived with an iphone day to day, so I'm not sure that I'm just looking at it via "the other side of the grass is always greener"


Subconsciously you have \:D



Actually I'm almost in the same boat as you lol, I just don't like to admit it because I hate anything Apple...but the iphone is perhaps the one device I may consider buying from them now.

Wifey's/mine LG G2's seem decent but now both have a screen issue (known problem from overheat by camera lens derp) where you can't even swipe! Given my old samsung s3 turned into shitpile (charger stopped working, battery sucked huge) i'm becoming annoyed with android as well. I also find them a bit TOO big and I don't want to pay a "premium" for a Sony phone (I say "premium" because I'm not sure if you can really consider it as such ). Not to mention they seem to get slow if you don't "clean up" your apps.

I do really want to try an HTC One M8/9. Have you considered that phoen?

I just wait until contract is up and get whatever slightly older android is already out for $0-$50. Is that what you've been doing too?
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#8225536 - 05/27/15 02:49 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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with any phone, it will feel good at first then start to get slower as apps get updated over time, requesting more memory usage, battery power etc...

ive never had a problem with iphones, i just hated itunes and the whole apple infrastructure.

good luck!

edit: im using an HTC One M7, phone before that was Samsung Galaxy S2. next phone may be a One+ https://oneplus.net/ca_en


Edited by Simon_the_Pieman (05/27/15 02:51 PM)
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#8225538 - 05/27/15 02:50 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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 Originally Posted By: Simon_the_Pieman
with any phone, it will feel good at first then start to get slower as apps get updated over time, requesting more memory usage, battery power etc...

ive never had a problem with iphones, i just hated itunes and the whole apple infrastructure.

good luck!


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#8225539 - 05/27/15 02:50 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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What is the price difference between a 5 and 6. Opt for a 6.
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#8225569 - 05/27/15 03:03 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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I was in the same boat as you until I was offered a brand spanking new 64gb nexus 6 below cost so I couldnt pass up that offer and I got the nexus 6. Originally I had already saved up the dough to buy the iphone 6+ outright from apple, but the nexus 6 was more than half of the cost of the iphone 6+. I've had the nexus 6 for 3 weeks now and I am quite pleased with it.

In your case, I think the 6 would be the best fit for your needs, I find the 5s is a touch small and I found it to be awkward.
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#8225571 - 05/27/15 03:06 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Thanks for the input.
So it sounds like apple is good, except for battery life. hmm.
Are there those battery apps where u can control things like mobile data when a phone is put in standby mode etc to assist with this?

I do not intend to connect it to email etc, so it wont be performing any push/pull outside of whatsapp (which lol, is totally not critical).

As for price difference between 5 and 6, it's like 600 dollars difference lol.
the 6 isn't on my radar. Too much and imo looks like poop!
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#8225583 - 05/27/15 03:15 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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5c battery life was good for me. Just make sure you wait a bit (for reviews )on updates. After a while new updates make apple products shit in my experience. So I usually leave ios alone at some point and stop upgrading. They seem to be more stable that way.
I hadn't updated my 5c in quite some times and battery life was good.

It's a phone. Small...but works just like any of my androids have. I hate iTunes so I never used it for that shit. I prefer my note 3 for day to day use.



I didn't drop my iphone much (compared to android ) but I broke the screen twice on it.
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#8225596 - 05/27/15 03:23 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Blackberry passport. Best phone I have used to date. Bought the wife a iPhone 6+ and it's buggy.

The battery life rocks on the pp and it's really stable.


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#8225620 - 05/27/15 03:45 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Blackberry passport. Best phone I have used to date. Bought the wife a iPhone 6+ and it's buggy.

The battery life rocks on the pp and it's really stable.


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#8225634 - 05/27/15 03:54 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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I have the 5S from work, its leaps and bounds better than my 5 re: battery life. I also don't play mad Clash of Clans on my work phone which is probably a reason why my 5S is still good.
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#8225635 - 05/27/15 03:56 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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This gif is pure EPIC by the way!

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#8225697 - 05/27/15 04:46 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Blackberry passport. Best phone I have used to date. Bought the wife a iPhone 6+ and it's buggy.

The battery life rocks on the pp and it's really stable.


my co worker has it and it's a goddamn mobile coffee coaster. he cant even put it in his pocket cuz it's a perfect square.
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#8225784 - 05/27/15 05:35 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: c2k]
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was never an apple fanboy, but their phones are significantly better simpler/more reliable than the rest of the garbage out there. They work well, don't crash, fast, etc. battery life does suck, but it's a compromise I am willing to make for something that works so well
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#8225803 - 05/27/15 05:53 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Riskhe Business]
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I've run iPhone for a few years now and just got an iPhone 5 last spring as an upgrade at work. I have no problems with it and find it works great for everything I use it for. I'm not a tweaked I just need something that's easy to use and this fits the bill. Battery does suck but I have one of those battery cases on the back of the phone and go all day without issues
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#8225826 - 05/27/15 06:13 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Blackberry passport. Best phone I have used to date. Bought the wife a iPhone 6+ and it's buggy.

The battery life rocks on the pp and it's really stable.


my co worker has it and it's a goddamn mobile coffee coaster. he cant even put it in his pocket cuz it's a perfect square.


I have no issue putting the phone into fitted dress pants... your friend must be fat
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#8225944 - 05/27/15 07:51 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Hatorade]
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#8225952 - 05/27/15 08:03 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: loudsubz]
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Oh and I never knew passports were a perfect square
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#8226024 - 05/27/15 08:55 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Hatorade]
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5S here, never migrated to the 6
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#8226040 - 05/27/15 09:07 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Bought every iPhone since the 3G; have tried the Note and returned it.

Surfing on the 6 is a bit buggy, Safari crashes a lot.

Battery life is okay, but if you make the habit of charging during the day you should be fine... like at your desk or on the way home from work.

iPhone just works (mostly) and that is why it is so successful.

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#8226054 - 05/27/15 09:25 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: xza8]
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i went from an iphone4 (non-S) straight to an iPhone6.

never had a problem with battery life -- mind you i'm one of those guys that don't upgrade their OS all the time (in fact w/ the 4, i never did - lol) ... maybe that's why i didn't have any problems. ;\)

w/ the 6 - i'm using it a lot more (esp. now that i take the Go train - i play stupid games on it a lot more \:D ); and i can still get through a day w/o having to recharge.

i was never into "modding" my PCs or laptops or whatever -- bone stock straight out of the box is fine by me and that's what the iPhone did for me.

i'm also using a 6 year old macbook white. it still runs pretty solid despite the laptop battery can't be recharged any more.

might as well buy one and try it -- there's always a market for it so you can sell it if you don't like it.
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#8226163 - 05/27/15 11:15 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: hyper-s2k]
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I'm pretty sure I'm one of five people on this planet that has a Blackberry by choice. Just picked up a BB Classic a week ago and it's been great so far. Switched over from using an HTC M7. While the phone was pretty stable for me, the top speaker blew just after the warranty expired. So yeah, I'm back with Blackberry. Loving the phone so far... especially not needing to proofread my emails/text messages.
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#8226283 - 05/28/15 06:42 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: fatso]
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I've had my Note 2 for over 2 years, no issues. Battery life is pretty good as well (I usually end up with 30-40% at the end of the day)

I am leaning iPhone for my next one just for the camera however.
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#8226372 - 05/28/15 08:56 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: LNXGUY]
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Never had stability issues with my Galaxy S3... nor my current Note Edge. IMO, for android, it depends on how much custom loading you do of shit like launchers. Some of them can be unstable on newer hardware.
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#8226388 - 05/28/15 09:06 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: phoenixrage]
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Wife has the iphone6, I have the Galaxy S5. I prefer the camera on her phone better than mine, her's always takes a good pic and mine is hit&miss/play with settings.

I do love the expandable memory in mine though, something the GS6 now lacks and the iphone always did.

Other than that, both function as expected. The only thing i never get used to on hers is the lack of a back button.

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#8226420 - 05/28/15 09:36 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: Big Tasty]
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phones are like personal computers, its all in how you use it.

if a person downloads every app under the sun and install a trillion things it will be slow.

if a person tries to hack or root it, it will be buggy.


same with windows on a desktop.. if a person has ten billion things in the task tray and a million other apps running on startup, then obviously it will be laggy.

then they blame the computer maker.. "this HP is such a POS", meanwhile the 4 anti viruses they installed are all fighting each other, on top of the 17 search bar tools running at the same time


i dunno.. i'm still on my galaxy s3, which i got in july 2012, and it still runs perfectly

the LTE radio takes up a ton of battery life, so i wish it had a bigger battery, but other than that i have no reason to upgrade

of course apps can crash, because the apps themselves are buggy, but the phone performance has stayed the same throug its life.



keep the system clean and you'll get good performance in return?

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#8226435 - 05/28/15 09:42 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: spd-dmn]
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keep the system clean and you'll get good performance in return?


I have no custom launchers or anything, and actually, i disable many stock bloatware apps to free up ram. Despite that, stability is an issue (xperia sp - mind you, that is 3+ years old now). As for the LG G4, if I browse enough pages, the back button no longer works on the browser, or scrolling up and down becomes laggy. I've also managed to make all icons on my home screen disappear (bug). But after cycling the screen on and off, the icons came back XD

That's silly small stuff that should just work. LG G4 is 100% bone stock.
The battery life stuff I'm hearing on iphones do scare me doe. I'm by no means a power user, and don't use my phone insanely. That said, I still find the 3000mah battery in the G4 lacking (it's a 5.5inch screen doe).

Does anyone have an iphone with push/pull notifications disabled? Curious to know batt life in that situation
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#8226449 - 05/28/15 09:48 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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I had mine disabled and could get over a week on my 5c.
I used it mostly for actual phone calls and some browsing. But it was a second phone. I usually used my note for most leisure shit. My note is a better phone compared to the iPhones I've had.
But it's stock with a select choice of apps.

My original galaxy was decent but got slow after 3 yrs on whatever custom rom I was running. I didn't do that this time around and performance has been stable.
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#8226452 - 05/28/15 09:50 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: 4age]
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yeah i hear ya

i wish there was a phone out there with a huge bat and a "regular" screen aka 4.8-5.0, so that the bigger battery actually adds lifespan, not just to keep up with more power consumption

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#8226457 - 05/28/15 09:57 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
phones are like personal computers, its all in how you use it.

if a person downloads every app under the sun and install a trillion things it will be slow.

if a person tries to hack or root it, it will be buggy.


same with windows on a desktop.. if a person has ten billion things in the task tray and a million other apps running on startup, then obviously it will be laggy.

then they blame the computer maker.. "this HP is such a POS", meanwhile the 4 anti viruses they installed are all fighting each other, on top of the 17 search bar tools running at the same time


i dunno.. i'm still on my galaxy s3, which i got in july 2012, and it still runs perfectly

the LTE radio takes up a ton of battery life, so i wish it had a bigger battery, but other than that i have no reason to upgrade

of course apps can crash, because the apps themselves are buggy, but the phone performance has stayed the same throug its life.



keep the system clean and you'll get good performance in return?


the point of "hacking" and "rooting" the android phone is to remove bloatware BS and tweak the kernel to ensure a longer battery life and smoother performance. I've had no issues with my phones in the past except me constantly dropping and smashing it whenever it falls off of my desk or my hand.
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#8226479 - 05/28/15 10:17 AM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: c2k]
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Iphone, only becuse it does the basics very well.
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#8226982 - 05/28/15 02:37 PM Re: Convince me not to...v.iPhone [Re: OracerO]
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that's bs. i have minimal apps, and i can't even look at bookface without it crashing. granted i do have a lot of pics on it.
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