this thread is kinda like what happens when a force of nature meets an immovable object

and by that i mean you are both retarded fanboys

yup, and its great!
a stock 4g is no faster than a b16. and im not talking dsm bullshit stock. ya guy 16g, 3" , maf,255 pump, 22psi..but ya shes stock bro.


and I actually do like the 4g...

Im actually on Euphoric's side on this. Stock 1G DSM vs stock 99-00 Si is a drivers race, whith my money being on the Si.

Another buddy with a 2g with 12lbs 3" TBE would only get half a car on me by 180kph.

High-14's-low 15's stock DSM vs. High 15's-low 16's Stock Si does not a driver's race make. You have to rape the shit out of a B16 Si just to crack into the 15's. Also, due to the B16's narrow powerband and lack of torque, there is a lot more margin for error in getting a quick timeslip. Unless you get a nail a perfect high-rpm launch and bang perfect, fast shifts at redline to keep the car in VTEC...... its going to be a 16-second car.




2g DSMs run 14.5psi from the factory. If he was only running 12lbs than he was probably slower than stock.

You have to rape the shit out of a B16 Si just to crack into the 15's. Also, due to the B16's narrow powerband and lack of torque, there is a lot more margin for error in getting a quick timeslip. Unless you get a nail a perfect high-rpm launch and bang perfect, fast shifts at redline to keep the car in VTEC...... its going to be a 16-second car.

High-14's-low 15's stock DSM vs. High 15's-low 16's Stock Si does not a driver's race make. You have to rape the shit out of a B16 Si just to crack into the 15's. Also, due to the B16's narrow powerband and lack of torque, there is a lot more margin for error in getting a quick timeslip. Unless you get a nail a perfect high-rpm launch and bang perfect, fast shifts at redline to keep the car in VTEC...... its going to be a 16-second car.




2g DSMs run 14.5psi from the factory. If he was only running 12lbs than he was probably slower than stock.

But before we do that let's just take a moment and reflect: We are arguing about which fifteen second car is faster out of the factory? Is it worth it?

I realize this doesn't fit the dsm scenario completely b/c they're not going to be making boost at this point, just saying in general....a b16 is the king of you have to rag the shit out of it to get anywhere near a decent time.

quad4, 1g's don't have power till 4000? Is this comment for real?

I've had this argument with Euphoric before, but apparently because his brother owned a dsm at one point he knows more about them then those of us who have owned them for years.

My 2g was a consistant high 14 second car when stock. After taking out the bcs restrictor and other free mods it was a mid high 14 second car. Never seen a 14 second stock SIR before.

I'll bite. 14.4 at 95.5 mph in a FWD.

http://www.allpar.com/model/laser.html

lasers are a diff breed since they are like stripper models imo. its like if you stuck a b16 into an eg hatch and sold that from acura or something from what ive seen they are always quicker than a talon or eclipse. i dont think about them much since most i see here are n/a. way more talons here.

ive had it for almost a year now.. and i have an Si.... the only guy with both cars in this thread..

ya man, i tuned my car and it ran for over a year daily driven and beat to shit ...means i know nothing.

when doing some work on the car later my buddy unplugged my knock sensor and forgot to plug it back in...that was the problem. nothing to do with my ability. and i got a couple hairline cracks in one pistons ringland zomg destroyed. but ya me actually tuning and doing it on my own for the first time and have it run flawlessly means i dont know anything

i had a 1.8L block....to replace the piston isnt much less work than swapping the blocks themselves , so thats what i did. I didnt have to but it was also 1.8L. so its great that you thought you knew what went down..... but you didnt. and yes it had everything to do with the knock sensor and not my ability. many good tuners out there have blown the shit out of engines.... so i dont know where you get the idea that a hurt motor means anything nevermind that it wasnt anything big. some hairline cracks is not carnage.blown the fuck up wouldve been cool, but again it wasnt even a result of something i did.


i havent even touched the dsm yet. stock ecu, no safc. but it runs well . im gonna be logging it when the weather warms up and my cable arrives.

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are you mentally retarded?
or are we going to have to hear more i hate the world pretend emo bs from the fag who wont even take his broken ass piece of shit down the 1/4, infact wont involve it in any timed event? DIAF

SpcNA[ZX] , you are the only twat with a galant on here...