#9770618 - 03/31/20 03:45 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Clicked.
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#9772122 - 04/01/20 08:12 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Do these ones have the IMS issues?
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#9772280 - 04/02/20 06:13 AM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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^ what he said.
The car above has the M.96-M97 variant engine, which is a complete piece of shit (as is the car). You are looking at 15k for a used one which will also fail or 25k for a rebuild which will also fail eventually.
Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there.
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#9772634 - 04/02/20 12:26 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there.
No 997.1 Turbo?
No 997.1 GT3?
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#9772641 - 04/02/20 12:30 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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^ what he said.
The car above has the M.96-M97 variant engine, which is a complete piece of shit (as is the car). You are looking at 15k for a used one which will also fail or 25k for a rebuild which will also fail eventually.
Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there.
Can't the IMS bearing be done by someone handy with vehicle repairs? I get that the transmission needs to come out and that its many hours of labour, but I can't imagine it being so difficult of a job that a handy individual with decent tools can't tackle this job over the course of a few days. I'd also assume a vehicle such as this would not be the owners DD which reduces the stress/workload of allowing it to take longer to complete the job.
Being married/having kids likely reduces the number of those being able to do such a job LOL.
IMO a lot of mechanic work is remove and replace. Nothing in that is SO complicated that anyone with half a brain can do it. Yes, obviously tools are important. So if you're a genius but you need to buy $2k in tools to do this job then better off having it done. The other half of mechanic work (which most mechanics don't do nowadays) is troubleshooting. Knowing what parts make certain noises and such. Good mechanics (mostly of yester year) can do that. Today's "technicians" plug the car in, read a code and then proceed to remove said part.
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#9772642 - 04/02/20 12:32 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there.
No 997.1 Turbo? No 997.1 GT3? Right, whoops! It's off my radar for no backseat. Kiddo is about to turn forward facing and don't want to eliminate this use case.
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#9772671 - 04/02/20 12:45 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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^ what he said.
The car above has the M.96-M97 variant engine, which is a complete piece of shit (as is the car). You are looking at 15k for a used one which will also fail or 25k for a rebuild which will also fail eventually.
Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there. Can't the IMS bearing be done by someone handy with vehicle repairs? I get that the transmission needs to come out and that its many hours of labour, but I can't imagine it being so difficult of a job that a handy individual with decent tools can't tackle this job over the course of a few days. I'd also assume a vehicle such as this would not be the owners DD which reduces the stress/workload of allowing it to take longer to complete the job. Being married/having kids likely reduces the number of those being able to do such a job LOL. IMO a lot of mechanic work is remove and replace. Nothing in that is SO complicated that anyone with half a brain can do it. Yes, obviously tools are important. So if you're a genius but you need to buy $2k in tools to do this job then better off having it done. The other half of mechanic work (which most mechanics don't do nowadays) is troubleshooting. Knowing what parts make certain noises and such. Good mechanics (mostly of yester year) can do that. Today's "technicians" plug the car in, read a code and then proceed to remove said part. I agree with all of this. I also did rod bearings in my M3 alone in my garage, I figure they're likely similar in terms of effort etc. I wouldn't shy away from this work on a Porsche myself other than I just so happen to have no interest in any of the cars affected.
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#9773462 - 04/03/20 05:41 AM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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^ what he said.
The car above has the M.96-M97 variant engine, which is a complete piece of shit (as is the car). You are looking at 15k for a used one which will also fail or 25k for a rebuild which will also fail eventually.
Only option is 997.2 C2S or up from there. Can't the IMS bearing be done by someone handy with vehicle repairs? I get that the transmission needs to come out and that its many hours of labour, but I can't imagine it being so difficult of a job that a handy individual with decent tools can't tackle this job over the course of a few days. I'd also assume a vehicle such as this would not be the owners DD which reduces the stress/workload of allowing it to take longer to complete the job. Being married/having kids likely reduces the number of those being able to do such a job LOL. IMO a lot of mechanic work is remove and replace. Nothing in that is SO complicated that anyone with half a brain can do it. Yes, obviously tools are important. So if you're a genius but you need to buy $2k in tools to do this job then better off having it done. The other half of mechanic work (which most mechanics don't do nowadays) is troubleshooting. Knowing what parts make certain noises and such. Good mechanics (mostly of yester year) can do that. Today's "technicians" plug the car in, read a code and then proceed to remove said part.
I agree with your logic, but Porsche is different because the engines are not easy to work on, they are actually a major pain in the ass and parts are very expensive. Couple that with information being hoarded by Porsche so the technical resources on clearances, tolerances, etc on something as complicated as an engine rebuild form the ground up are hard to find.
Replacing the IMS isn't the issue, it's the dice you roll with the potential damage that could've already been caused prior to replacing it. It's not a binary problem, fix this, it will fix that. It was a shitty design, hence why when they moved to DFI engines they reduced the components of the motor by 40% apparently making it much more simpler and reliable.
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#9774388 - 04/03/20 07:57 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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From what I recall, 2007 and up, generally you are in the clear.
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#9774428 - 04/03/20 08:42 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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From what I recall, 2007 and up, generally you are in the clear.
Not really, it’s still a crap shoot. Less likely for IMS failure, but still happens. And then there’s the DFI motors in the 997.2 that are prone to bore scoring LMFAOOOOOOOO
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#9774448 - 04/03/20 08:58 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Screw it. Buy a couple of watches and grab an used Fiat 500 Abarth and toss that around until it breaks.
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#9774468 - 04/03/20 09:19 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Screw it. Buy a couple of watches and grab an used Fiat 500 Abarth and toss that around until it breaks.
Just need to buy a turbo or GT2 or GT3 :P
What watch you want now LOL
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#9774500 - 04/03/20 10:07 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Nothing really....just speaking in hypothetical. Dropped most of my cash in the house anyway. Will be a couple of years before any new toys.....gotta get pass C19 before I can yolo it.
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#9774512 - 04/03/20 10:28 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Had I known, would have got the SQ5....dealerships are probably happen to reduce inventory to reduce their interest payments.
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#9775567 - 04/05/20 03:33 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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more than 15-20 years ago, we were talking about doing motor swaps in the civics.
today, here we are - talking about getting a Porsche.
Is that not a good thing?
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#9775747 - 04/05/20 08:00 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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I wish I kept my EP3. $3500 for a 100k 15 year old manual car with no rust and working AC.
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#9776022 - 04/06/20 09:52 AM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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Typically a thread is started on a serious note and goes sideways. In this case, the thread started off as a joke and became serious
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#9776786 - 04/06/20 07:58 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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I wanted one so I chimed in. lol
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#9779264 - 04/08/20 08:54 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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more than 15-20 years ago, we were talking about doing motor swaps in the civics.
today, here we are - talking about getting a Porsche.
LOL true say.... Don't we have a lawn "detail" thread somewhere too?!
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#9779309 - 04/08/20 10:26 PM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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i am paying someone to do my lawn now.....145 deep lot.....I don't want to be doing yard work all day.
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#9781539 - 04/11/20 10:34 AM
Re: In the market for a 911?
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I need to buy a ride on mower.
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