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#9462573 - 12/11/18 01:01 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Wow! I love the insight! I see the point about outdoor vs indoor on a microbe level but if someone is sick with a compromised immune system wouldn't they be using extracts and oils vs smoking and vaping? I'm guessing those contaminants would still remain and possibly gain potency through the extraction process.

The indoor advantage of harvesting when the plant is at it's peak vs weather outdoors is probably a good enough reason to grow indoors, then tack on the fact that a bee could have come from crop dusted field and land on your plants. But seeing a plant get to 10 feet tall swaying in the breeze is a sight.

If you can keep your grow pesticide free and all natural that should be a recipe for success, I think more important that having the most knock out stuff is to have a detailed analysis with accurate numbers - the number ranges on the OCS are 10% so you could get a bottom bud or a top bud with a large amount of variance - so you are never really sure what quality you are buying.

Do they offer personal testers for TCH cbd content? I heard some guy in Quebec bought some shit from the gov store, never opened it and took it right to a lab to be tested and when it didn't contain the amount of THC advertised he launched a law suit against the Gov (I googled but wasn't able to find story)
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#9462611 - 12/11/18 01:36 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Onset/dosing is most accurate with smoking/vaping so those who self medicate choose this because they can get relief quick at the expense of consuming in an unhealthy way without immediate effect. So ingestion is probably healthier, but vaping isn't bad either (like smoking). Too early to tell, but vaping dried flower is probably the best way in terms of efficacy/onset/dosing (this is still pending hard evidence and research).

The detailed analysis, aka plant monitoring is super important. We have a post secondary institution with an approved lab that will test sample batches from all of our grows for nutrient deficiencies as well as other issues to help us optimize the grow climate rather than going by gut feel. Pretty excited about this.

Getting stuff tested personally is a challenge, I am not sure what the process is, but I've heard individuals have been denied (pre legalization), it may be different now.

This goes back to the way people grow in large rooms, Health Canada requires 50grams of trim to test batches, so depending on where you take the trim from you could be sampling your best/healthiest plants, yet the rest of your garden looks like shit and that's what consumers are getting - but the tests are showing your optimum plants. We've got a long way to go.

Then there is the question of packaged dried flower losing efficacy while stored in finished goods containers, how it's handled, if they used humidity packs, etc all will play a factor in what the end consumer gets.

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#9462679 - 12/11/18 02:26 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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question for you weed heads.

there's someone i know who smokes alot of weed for medical purposes (no it's not me assholes lol). it helps him and works for now but the constant smoking is also taking a toll on his respiratory system, i know, treatment for one thing effects the other but that's the situation, whatever.

what is a good method, that's easiest on your body of smoking? oils/edibles what have you arnt an effective way but is vaping much better? if you guys can point me in the direction of a good quality vape to vape the actual bud that would be appreciated!
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#9462734 - 12/11/18 03:35 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: titty sprinkles]
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My friend Vapes dry bud from the volcano machine. Expensive piece of equipment but it's pretty good. I myself like vaping concentrates from a rig. Similar to a bong. I smoke everything from shatter to distillate and rosin. The 2 latter being cleaner but also more expensive. Like I said earlier you really get what you pay for in this game. The vape pens are okay but I find I'm just smoking that thing the entire day. Too easy to use and the high it a bit too clean for me personally. I usually vape during the week and smoke spliffs on the weekend.

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#9462788 - 12/11/18 05:40 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
Any other cannabis n00bs or am I the only one?


Born again noob here. Did it in college but never a heavy user. Had my first taste this past weekend from ocs and besides the disapproving looks from the wife, all went well lol. Will probably just keep it to weekend use.

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#9462895 - 12/11/18 07:32 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Big Tasty]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
Any other cannabis n00bs or am I the only one?


Born again noob here. Did it in college but never a heavy user. Had my first taste this past weekend from ocs and besides the disapproving looks from the wife, all went well lol. Will probably just keep it to weekend use.


Lol gotta enlighten her and get her to try it too. Then you can both enjoy it together!

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#9462973 - 12/11/18 09:32 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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Damn good to know that's how the testing is done. So if I'm a supplier I'm definitely only providing the best sugar leaf to get my readings up...wow

I've had my volcano for over 10 years. I can tell you that it is cleaner than joints for sure but after enough use when you replace the bag (this is where this system shines - because you can take everything apart to clean properly) you'll see the bag is sticky with resin. So you know that's still getting into your lungs at the end of the day...but you will conserve a lot of weed with this system because it is german made - I mean engineered extremely well but this has reliability - ha

That testing facility sounds awesome. You'll be able to maximize yield with that sort of information.

I think the future will be tinctures administered sublingually (under tongue) effects should come on quickly and dosage is easy to regulate. Also pretty soon they should be having the strips that go onto you tongue.


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#9463058 - 12/12/18 06:04 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Wow u must be a pothead haha I endulge alot but I don't know if I can spend thousands on a weed smoking device. Maybe I'm just cheap haha
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#9463147 - 12/12/18 08:24 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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I prefer the term connoisseur LOL. It wasn't thousands - I bought it used, and I rarely use it anymore but I am still fascinated by the plant...grow one and you'll appreciate the plant on a larger level.
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#9463373 - 12/12/18 10:43 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
question for you weed heads.

there's someone i know who smokes alot of weed for medical purposes (no it's not me assholes lol). it helps him and works for now but the constant smoking is also taking a toll on his respiratory system, i know, treatment for one thing effects the other but that's the situation, whatever.

what is a good method, that's easiest on your body of smoking? oils/edibles what have you arnt an effective way but is vaping much better? if you guys can point me in the direction of a good quality vape to vape the actual bud that would be appreciated!


That's something for a doctor to answer, oil capsules are probably his best bet.

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#9463381 - 12/12/18 10:47 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Damn good to know that's how the testing is done. So if I'm a supplier I'm definitely only providing the best sugar leaf to get my readings up...wow

I've had my volcano for over 10 years. I can tell you that it is cleaner than joints for sure but after enough use when you replace the bag (this is where this system shines - because you can take everything apart to clean properly) you'll see the bag is sticky with resin. So you know that's still getting into your lungs at the end of the day...but you will conserve a lot of weed with this system because it is german made - I mean engineered extremely well but this has reliability - ha

That testing facility sounds awesome. You'll be able to maximize yield with that sort of information.

I think the future will be tinctures administered sublingually (under tongue) effects should come on quickly and dosage is easy to regulate. Also pretty soon they should be having the strips that go onto you tongue.


Canopy bought volcano last week.

sublinguals will be big. We are working with a pharma company that's working developing a gum that acts the same.

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#9463593 - 12/12/18 11:48 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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Nice I was watching the company that had the patent on the chewing gum - think they were called axxovant or something like that...that was a while back.

chewing gum would be awesome. Big Green Chew
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#9463962 - 12/12/18 02:46 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I saw something on linked in from canopy about volcano but missed the details. Smart move on their part. It's the Cadillac of vaporizers.
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#9464344 - 12/12/18 05:34 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Big green chew would be amazing. Lol make sure u get your cut bozack lol.
I didn't know canopy bought volcano.thats crazy. they just buying up everything.

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#9464923 - 12/13/18 11:29 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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Placed order to OCS on Dec 5th
Mailman dropped off order on Dec 7th
Got confirmation email with tracking number today.

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#9465260 - 12/13/18 03:14 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Big Tasty]
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I'll work on getting my slice of the pie low budget \:\)
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#9469156 - 12/19/18 12:04 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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well shit..

dont know what to believe anymore

https://globalnews.ca/news/4773407/privacy-commission-pay-cash-for-pot/amp/
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#9469872 - 12/20/18 09:42 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: c2k]
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OCS is having a constant supply issue. I would like to get it outside of Ontario. Unless anybody here can refer me to where I can get 1:1 mix capsules?
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#9469985 - 12/20/18 11:39 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: c2k]
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Register as a medical patient and be done with it, if you sign up with an LP you will have access to all inventory and possibly better pricing.

Or buy from mail order, but you have no idea what you are buying.

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#9470028 - 12/20/18 12:08 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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Isn't there a tax benefit also if you are a medical patient?
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#9470048 - 12/20/18 12:18 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Not yet, both medical and rec are paying excise tax, but they are lobbying to change that. Also insurance companies will start covering "medical" cannabis soon enough so it makes more sense to be a patient if you rely on the stuff.
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#9470072 - 12/20/18 12:30 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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"Rely" ;\) once it get's covered by insurance watch the subscriptions grow.
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#9482432 - 01/09/19 08:37 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Guess you can go knock on the door of the warehouse now: https://business.financialpost.com/canna...nabis-warehouse
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#9482464 - 01/09/19 08:56 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Big Tasty]
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I need to get my medical liscense but I have no idea what the easiest way to do that is. And is there a cost? I see some clinics charging 300 bux to basically walk you through the process
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#9482571 - 01/09/19 10:04 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Big Tasty]
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Guess you can go knock on the door of the warehouse now: https://business.financialpost.com/canna...nabis-warehouse


Good.

I hope they form a union out of spite to Doug Ford who is very much anti-union.
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#9482579 - 01/09/19 10:08 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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I need to get my medical liscense but I have no idea what the easiest way to do that is. And is there a cost? I see some clinics charging 300 bux to basically walk you through the process


You can go to your family doctor and they will refer you to a clinic, it's similar to getting a referral to a specialist like a dermatologist.

Or you can contact a local "cannabis clinic" and pay the fee like you said, they put up a doctor on skype, he "assess" you and then write you "medical authorization" for amount of grams/day you are allowed, that gets sent to your LP of choice or whatever the clinic pushes on you. Keep in mind you can split your medical document to send it to a couple of LP's to buy if you don't want to be tied to one.

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#9482580 - 01/09/19 10:08 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: c2k]
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Guess you can go knock on the door of the warehouse now: https://business.financialpost.com/canna...nabis-warehouse


Good.

I hope they form a union out of spite to Doug Ford who is very much anti-union.



yep, let's see how this plays out.

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#9482717 - 01/09/19 11:42 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Low_Budget_Honda
I need to get my medical liscense but I have no idea what the easiest way to do that is. And is there a cost? I see some clinics charging 300 bux to basically walk you through the process


You can go to your family doctor and they will refer you to a clinic, it's similar to getting a referral to a specialist like a dermatologist.

Or you can contact a local "cannabis clinic" and pay the fee like you said, they put up a doctor on skype, he "assess" you and then write you "medical authorization" for amount of grams/day you are allowed, that gets sent to your LP of choice or whatever the clinic pushes on you. Keep in mind you can split your medical document to send it to a couple of LP's to buy if you don't want to be tied to one.


Great info thanks!. I didn't know you can split different LPs. Also for some reason I feel like I'd get prescribed more if I don't go through my family doctor

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#9482735 - 01/09/19 11:58 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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They usually prescribe 1/g day, 3/g, or 8/g - these are the most common with 3g/day being the typical daily amount prescribed. Then you can split 1g/day to LP A, 1g/day LP B, etc.
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#9485127 - 01/12/19 06:53 PM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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I see, makes sense. Damn whoever is smoking 8 grams a day must have some chronic pain lol
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#9537465 - 03/28/19 11:25 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: BroKe]
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Leafs by Snoop
Broken Coast
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San Rafael '71
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Brands being sold in the Brampton store which supposedly opens on Monday. My reading suggests most of them are junk.

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#9537476 - 03/28/19 11:36 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Mostly garbage, Broken Coast/San Rafael are the good ones.
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#9632698 - 08/22/19 09:30 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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WTF, so 5 more stores to open in Toronto and they are leasing space on Queen st.

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The 42 new stores will be distributed regionally, with 13 in the city of Toronto, six going to the Greater Toronto Area, 11 in the west region, seven going to the east region, and in the north, one each in Kenora, North Bay, Sault Ste. Marie, Thunder Bay and Timmins.


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In Toronto, five of the lottery winners have leased shop space on Queen Street, where two pot shops already operate, he said.

“That suggests that Queen Street in Toronto is going to quickly turn into cannabis row,” he said. “That’s a consequence of them setting up a system where essentially the applicants could decide where the store location was going to be and then because its subject to a draw you’re essentially leaving it to chance.”

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#9632715 - 08/22/19 10:05 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Big Tasty]
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The whole "lottery" system is pretty rigged. Most awarded licenses are the same people, 32 of the awarded licenses have 10+ applications. The different queen street locations could very well be the same people that want to ensure something sticks. This whole thing is a joke.
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#9632732 - 08/22/19 10:20 AM Re: sooooo....it's legal tomorrow [Re: Risky Business]
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Lots of dotted lines to the Ford family as well.
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