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#9400556 - 09/21/18 10:50 AM Got canned yesterday - Package question
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16 years in a big IT company and got let go because my new boss didn't like me using my design skills to help the marketing team (even though I was getting cost codes). I'm very happy to have left the corporation and I'm looking forward to putting more energy towards my own design company.

A question I have for anyone who has gone through this scenario before or knows the ins and outs of HR and their BS. Is it worth seeking legal advice to review "my package" Lawyers in Durham are charging between 3-500 bucks just to review...yes I hate lawyers to.

Quick rundown 16 years in corporation - 42 years old - severance was for 25 weeks

Thanks guys
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#9400559 - 09/21/18 10:56 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Depending on your circumstance, you could get a month per year as severance. Always worth the time to talk to a lawyer. HR usually gives the bare min as a starting point.
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#9400562 - 09/21/18 11:04 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
16 years in a big IT company and got let go because my new boss didn't like me using my design skills to help the marketing team (even though I was getting cost codes). I'm very happy to have left the corporation and I'm looking forward to putting more energy towards my own design company.

A question I have for anyone who has gone through this scenario before or knows the ins and outs of HR and their BS. Is it worth seeking legal advice to review "my package" Lawyers in Durham are charging between 3-500 bucks just to review...yes I hate lawyers to.

Quick rundown 16 years in corporation - 42 years old - severance was for 25 weeks

Thanks guys



I've been behind dozens of severance packages from the finance end of things, that severance is definitely not right considering your tenure.

You can pm me if you want, but a couple of things, did you already sign off on it or was it presented to you and now have time to get back to them?

There is absolutely no way you should be accepting that, for somebody like you 16 years, assuming "manager" level title, you should be in the area of 50-60 weeks in severance at the very least and you should negotiate to have benefits coverage for at least another 6+ months.


You are however in a shitty situation because if you engage a lawyer and "win" and they raise the severance, the lawyer will basically take half of the equivalent value of your severance and you will end up with what you are getting now.

What I've seen work is to engage a reputable law firm now and only have them draft a legal letter to the company saying why what you are being offered is unacceptable and what you will settle for, then see what they say. If they call your bluff you can just accept it and move on or engage the lawyer and prepare to pay any sort of "win" back to the lawyer.

Keep in mind the lawyer will want to draft the letter where it will begin a back and forth, because more billable hours. You simply want a letter stating your case why their offer is unacceptable (lawyer should be making that argument) and then tell them you will take legal action against the company. Ask for a fixed price from a lawyer for this letter, it's worth spending the 500 dollars on it. Or you could draft it yourself as a response and tell them you will take legal action and see what they say, and engage lawyer after that point. It's probably best to come out of the gates swinging so this doesn't drag out.

Good luck.

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#9400652 - 09/21/18 12:55 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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Sorry to hear OP, no advice to add but wish you good luck on this and towards your next gig.
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#9400777 - 09/21/18 03:43 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
[quote=Mr.Bozack]

Keep in mind the lawyer will want to draft the letter where it will begin a back and forth, because more billable hours. You simply want a letter stating your case why their offer is unacceptable (lawyer should be making that argument) and then tell them you will take legal action against the company. Ask for a fixed price from a lawyer for this letter, it's worth spending the 500 dollars on it. Or you could draft it yourself as a response and tell them you will take legal action and see what they say, and engage lawyer after that point. It's probably best to come out of the gates swinging so this doesn't drag out.

Good luck.


What this guy said. As long as you didn't sign yet.

I got 20 weeks and i was a manager in a fortune 500 company and only worked 2.2 years (but i'm a different case and was in with the management team, i asked for a package).

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#9400829 - 09/21/18 05:44 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: OracerO]
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Sorry it took a while to respond guys - been tied up with many things.

No I'm not at a manager level (I was stuck in a position with no options to advance so I started businesses outside of work)- I was a Sr. Consultant but then they changed my title a few years back to an admin title of some sort because I was no longer billable but worked with internal marketing departments.

I appreciate the advice. Risky thanks for taking the time to formulate that response. I'll PM ya

No I definitly did not sign anything they have given me a week to make a decision.

I'll share in more detail the offering
Stat Pay 8 weeks
Stat Severance 8 weeks
Severance Pay 25 weeks

Everyone else I also appreciate the input - When I win the super 7 tonight I'll host the next CSI meet in my old companies parking lot and finally get to meet some of you fine folks.
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#9400843 - 09/21/18 06:12 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I just re read this with my wife and I think she is on board with Risky's approach - great advice to avoid the lawyers billable hours.
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#9400853 - 09/21/18 06:51 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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When my wife got let go, as part of the settlement, we ended up agreeing that the company would pay all of the legal fees that we incurred.
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#9400959 - 09/22/18 09:00 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SW20_MR2]
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Oh shit I like that approach SW I will ask the lawyer if this is an option when working with them
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#9400986 - 09/22/18 11:04 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Sorry to hear. At least you are at an age where you are still very employable.

Risky gave some sound advice. Best of luck.

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#9400988 - 09/22/18 11:07 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SW20_MR2]
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When my wife got let go, as part of the settlement, we ended up agreeing that the company would pay all of the legal fees that we incurred.


Good point, just worth keeping in mind that if it gets down to this a lot of times they will then start defining what is part of the "incurred" legal fees and what isn't. Sometimes a judge can put a cap on it like 5k is the max it should've cost, but if OP gets a lawyer that cost 15k, he is still out. Case in point, definitely ask for legal fee reimbursement, but don't count it.

Hopefully it doesn't get to that point, but some employers are total scum fucks. It always ends up costing both the employee and employer more when the employer doesn't treat the employee fairly from the get with these things, but they keep doing it and the lawyers are the only ones that win.

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#9400998 - 09/22/18 12:03 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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Good advice risky

Sorry to hear about it OP but lots of different opportunities out there. Enjoy the final severance
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#9401001 - 09/22/18 12:26 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: JEFFOS]
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OP, if you got kids and have medical and dental, ask them to extend that for a year as well if possible (if your wife doesn't have).
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#9401112 - 09/22/18 05:20 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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A2B yeah I got kids but my wife is a teacher so the benefits aren't a big deal unless I try to get scripts and sell for some cash - ha.

These cheap pricks only extended my benefits until Nov 15.

This company makes over 10B annually so I know they'll have the lawyers...but I also know this is their strategy to save a buck or two.

I'm thankful that they didn't temporarily lay me off and make me wait 8 months for my package. They used to do that to a lot and people and they were forced to find work because they couldn't wait that long and they would loose their package.
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#9401344 - 09/23/18 10:48 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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This gives you a little insight as to what you can get if you lawyer up. I get it that they're trying to get your business, but this says you're owed a lot more than what they're offering you (which I guess expected and always the case)

https://www.severancepaycalculator.com/

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#9401362 - 09/23/18 11:24 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Yeah I’d take that calculator with a grain of salt. I was packaged a couple years back and used that calculator and after factoring the lawyers take it would have equaled out to accepting the package to begin with or less.

I had a co-worker that was packaged out and went through a lawyer. Yes he got more but after the 30% take he was back to square one but he did it out of spite lol.
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#9401410 - 09/23/18 12:52 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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Sorry to hear OP, no advice to add but wish you good luck on this and towards your next gig.


same a lot of good stuff so i'll offer just best of luck OP.
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#9401515 - 09/23/18 05:16 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Kid Bro Sweets]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Sorry to hear OP, no advice to add but wish you good luck on this and towards your next gig.


same a lot of good stuff so i'll offer just best of luck OP.


all the best bozack
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#9401557 - 09/23/18 06:36 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Yeah Hator, that's my concern also. From the lawyers I have spoken to they seem to be aggressive to get your business but only to rope you into a drawn out ordeal.

I'll delay my decision for a week - something I'm sure most people don't do in this situation - while I do more research and look to find a lawyer I can work with.

I tried that calculator and it said I was entitled to something like 18-24 months of severance, I figured it was bs and a marketing tool.
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#9401573 - 09/23/18 06:58 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Like risky said though. The package they offered you is not right especially with that kind of tenure. Most companies usually settle at 3 weeks per year worked. Use that as a baseline to work worth. Are there clawback conditions such as you finding a job within a time period?

Good luck Bozack!
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#9401830 - 09/24/18 06:21 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Hatorade]
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Thanks Hator,

No clawback conditions that I am aware of - at least nothing has been mentioned and I didn't see anything written. So if I can land something either with a company or get more freelance this could be a nice chunk.

3 weeks per year would be much better but I wonder if that's only for severance pay and not including stat severance pay...if so that would be significantly more but if it includes both wouldn't be much more.
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#9401875 - 09/24/18 08:23 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Like risky said though. The package they offered you is not right especially with that kind of tenure. Most companies usually settle at 3 weeks per year worked. Use that as a baseline to work worth. Are there clawback conditions such as you finding a job within a time period?

Good luck Bozack!


this.

and sorry to hear man!

hope you're successful in your next venture.
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#9401905 - 09/24/18 09:00 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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OP, hopefully this was a blessing in disguise. Hopefully it 1) gets you a decent payout, 2) gets you out of a company you weren't fully happy with and 3) leads you to something better!
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#9403001 - 09/25/18 02:37 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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shitty deal man, but i always say use this as a opportunity for bigger and better things!
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#9403164 - 09/25/18 04:19 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Oh yeah guys, thanks for the kind words. I agree I'm motivated again and feel like I'm a designer again, it's amazing what the safety and staleness of an uninspiring job does for your confidence.

I have a call with a lawyer tomorrow at noon - Lior Samphiro - It's a free call so I'll see what they are saying but they will review the package over the call which is better than all lawyers that I have spoken with.

I haven't had any downtime since the canning as I've been freelancing non stop since this has happened - ironically enough it's for my old company.

This might be my future as I've always dabbled with the freelance on the side. Time to build up my client roster....and update my email signature.


Edited by Mr.Bozack (09/25/18 04:20 PM)
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#9403171 - 09/25/18 04:27 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Just make sure you confirm with the lawyer that the phone consult is free before you start talking lol. I’m serious.

I’m a firm believer that things happen for a reason. Best of luck bozack.
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#9403277 - 09/25/18 05:43 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Hatorade]
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Good luck Bozack. Out of curiosity, what kind of design do you do?
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#9403426 - 09/25/18 09:54 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Hator - yeah man I agree 100% I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit - I hated hearing "Here is your 1% raise blah blah blah" so this is forcing me to take the step.

Mario - I do graphic design and brand creation, basically I create brands and also support large corporate brands through print and digital. I'll share my portfolio site once my package has been settled.
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#9403483 - 09/26/18 05:57 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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#9403500 - 09/26/18 07:24 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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Thanks Risky, yes I feel something better is in the near future. Gotta put that M3 of the vision board lol I'm glad I didn't lock myself into any vehicle payments
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#9403502 - 09/26/18 07:29 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I'll share my portfolio site once my package has been settled.

Yeah you should. There are a lot of people on here that could potentially bring you business.

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#9406917 - 09/29/18 10:58 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Goodluck man, that initial offer was fucking bullshit
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#9407129 - 09/30/18 01:10 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Hoping to have an update by end of week this week.
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#9417779 - 10/15/18 06:55 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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The negotiations have been finalized but I am holding out signing off until I get paid for some freelance work the company gave me the day after being let go - ironic eh. I've been trying to get paid for the work for 3 weeks, hoping by the end of this week everything is complete and I will provide a more detailed update.
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#9417785 - 10/15/18 07:07 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Good Luck! Hopefully you get more than fair package from the bastards.

I checked out the website from your signature, are ya selling underwear now?
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#9417805 - 10/15/18 07:58 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: c2k]
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#9417894 - 10/15/18 09:03 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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Thanks guys,

C2K - not selling underwear anymore, that was something a did a long time ago. I made my first line localy but when I tried to find a manufacturing overseas for my next line it became very difficult - I spent 3 years searching for a manu - that would meet my minimums and deliver to my standards - often times after months invested the manufacture would stop responding to emails, in the end I didn't feel comfortable laying out 10K plus hoping that they get it right.
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#9428283 - 10/26/18 12:02 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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OK guys, finally can post the update.

I contacted Lior Samphiru - after a good friend recommended me to call them. I was able to have a 30 minute phone call to discuss my case and ask any questions...this was the first lawyer willing to do this - most want close to 500 to meet with you and develop a strategy.

He looked over the package and told me that is was fair - 49 weeks and I could start work anytime and still get everything. However he did advise me to negotiate up to 52 weeks and he gave me some points to include. So I took his advice and was able to negotiate up the entire year and it didn't cost me a cent.

It's a small win but the extra cash will go towards start up funds for the business.
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#9428311 - 10/26/18 12:19 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Awesome news, glad to hear it's over for you.

I might have missed it somewhere, when did the offer go from 25 weeks to 49?

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#9428321 - 10/26/18 12:25 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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I screwed up with the way I was reading all of the lump sum payouts...basically ALL of the payouts equaled out to 49 weeks.
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#9428331 - 10/26/18 12:35 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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That makes more sense, the package you were being offered made no sense especially from a mega corp (which don't like bad press from employee terminations especiall), you presented the original package as if it was the equivalent of something some shady small business would do (my friend, can I offer you this MINT salvage title Jaguar? GREAT FAMILY CAR, ECONOMICAL).

Glad it all worked out.

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#9428339 - 10/26/18 12:47 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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#9428462 - 10/26/18 03:49 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Ha ha yes I didn't know WTF all the lump sums ment in the beginning, but either way I knew that you never accept the first offer and thanks for everyone's input on this matter - an extra few weeks of cash is better in my hands than theirs.

Risky I like the analogy of the Mint salvage car...the timing chains are making noise on my car now so I can relate.
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#9428815 - 10/27/18 11:47 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Good to hear that things worked out.
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#9429507 - 10/29/18 07:01 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Now that CSI:ON has closure on Bozack's situation ... I'll eventually post up, as I got Bozack'd awhile ago...

I can't speak to much of it, as I signed two NDAs - one just prior to joining, and a second one as a 'settlement' when I got sacked, which, didn't go as planned. The language on the second NDA was quite formal, something I've never seen before.

Got some other things going on in life, so it'll take awhile for me to summarize, and filter/black-out some details.

Regardless, the market for my skillset is ok, and I found a job 6 days later, albeit the drive is sooper fucked; so, I'm looking again.

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#9429513 - 10/29/18 07:06 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: furball]
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The language in the NDA was "quite formal" opposed to what, ebonics?
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#9429548 - 10/29/18 08:00 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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Furball glad to hear you landed on your feet quick.

Shieet if it was in ebonics - lol

For mine it didn't say - were giving you 49 weeks - it said we're giving you a lump sum here because we have to, and over here we have to give you this, and over here we'll give you 26 weeks - some shit like that.
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#9430183 - 10/29/18 03:59 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Might as well let the cat out of the bag, got my letter last week (Happy fucking birthday right? ) Package is good, going to take some time and perhaps find a job I actually enjoy.
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#9430306 - 10/29/18 07:28 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Sucks man. That's heartless!
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#9430366 - 10/29/18 09:08 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Sorry to hear. Happy birthday though.
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#9430436 - 10/30/18 05:49 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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sorry to hear. it'll get better.
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#9430529 - 10/30/18 08:19 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: c2k]
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What was the reason behind the letter? How long were you with the company?
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#9430896 - 10/30/18 11:25 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Shit man sorry to hear...these damn corporations!

Have you signed the papers yet? If not squeeze them cheap pricks for more.

Good luck with lining yourself up with enjoyable employment.
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#9431017 - 10/30/18 12:58 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
What was the reason behind the letter? How long were you with the company?


13 years. Entire team was outsourced.
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#9431031 - 10/30/18 01:11 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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WOW! Same thing happened to me, hopefully you get close to a full year or more
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#9431045 - 10/30/18 01:37 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I got a full year + benefits etc. No complaints.
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#9431184 - 10/30/18 03:56 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Nice! Do you know if they take the benefit premiums off of your severance? They offered to extend my benefits but I would have to pay so I passed - my wife has a good benefits plan.
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#9431455 - 10/31/18 07:42 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Nice! Do you know if they take the benefit premiums off of your severance? They offered to extend my benefits but I would have to pay so I passed - my wife has a good benefits plan.


Yeah, the only thing that comes off is about $15 per pay period for dental, lol.
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#9431522 - 10/31/18 09:17 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Ah that's not bad at all.

What industry is it that you are working in? ...Please say Cannabis lol
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#9431866 - 10/31/18 02:25 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Ah that's not bad at all.

What industry is it that you are working in? ...Please say Cannabis lol


Definitely not cannabis, lol. Company has their hands in everything. Consulting/services, etc etc.
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#9432449 - 11/01/18 08:01 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Yeah that was the same area I was in - One of Canada's largest IT consulting companies.
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#9432517 - 11/01/18 09:13 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Yeah that was the same area I was in - One of Canada's largest IT consulting companies.


Hey, maybe we worked for the same company
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#9432578 - 11/01/18 10:13 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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lol
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#9432581 - 11/01/18 10:16 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: phoenixrage]
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That would be hilarious. Probably worked side by side.
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#9432924 - 11/01/18 04:08 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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Wouldn't be suprised - the company I worked for boasts that they make apx $10B annually
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#9432993 - 11/01/18 05:44 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Wouldn't be suprised - the company I worked for boasts that they make apx $10B annually


Earnings of 4B last year, revenue just over 41B. But hey, fire me so you can slim down your bid to the client I've been working for since 2009 you fucking cocksuckers
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#9433280 - 11/02/18 09:03 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Preach brother! Fak these guys, time to become their competitors
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