#8985432 - 03/27/17 02:13 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Why no highlander?
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#8985442 - 03/27/17 02:16 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8985447 - 03/27/17 02:19 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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In that price range they are pretty old or have high KM
Would have liked a 4runner 2011-2012 but not even close to 20k
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#8985454 - 03/27/17 02:21 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8985501 - 03/27/17 02:43 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8985526 - 03/27/17 03:11 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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I don't see very many in that price range for 2011. Most are 2009 or lower
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#8985573 - 03/27/17 03:37 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Out of those 4, the Cx9. Outside of that, Honda 4 lyfe.
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#8985790 - 03/27/17 06:37 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Ya can't get anyone between the two kids seats. Well they fit but not comfy at all. Even the dog can't find a place to sit back there. He is big though, German Shepard x with a golden retriever.
We do a fair bit of driving for camping and to visit family and more room will be nice
The extra two seats would be so great. So many time family has some to visit and we end up taking two cars.
I don't need a lecture about fitting everything into what we have now, blah blah. I got a deal on the Subaru when we bought to so if I get 10 out of it if we trade it in with tax savings I would be happy And I would rather just trade it in than try to sell privately.
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#8985795 - 03/27/17 06:42 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Buy an AWD Sienna. Moves your extra family and dogs in comfort. Who cares what it looks like.
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#8985918 - 03/27/17 09:36 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8985977 - 03/27/17 10:49 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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I know you are not going to get the Venza, but when I was doing my research the car won on so many different levels and this is one of them (space). It's a very wide vehicle and I always wanted to be able to carry two car seats and my MIL if I had to...and yes you can.
This is from Toyota nation (also the v6 hauls ass)
We bought the Venza specifically because it was the widest 4 cylinder on the market. We have three car seats in the rear. Two of them are Sunshine Radians (for a one and three year old), and the other is a Graco booster (for a six year old) with back attached. They fit with more than enough room between the car seat and the booster for the oldest to do up his own seat belt. If in doubt get three Sunshine Radians, they are the narrowest car seats you can get. They are pricey, but very well built. We have wider car seats in our van. You could fit them in the Venza, but it is much more difficult. If you can't get them in the Venza then you are going to be getting a minivan or a three row SUV. There is nothing with more hip room measurement then the Venza. Good luck.
Also this:
yes, and 2 child seats will fit on the 60% rear seat, allowing you to drop down the 40% rear seat to make more room to carry a bulky object in the back cargo area
It's such a great car, it's not as big of a barge as an SUV has utility, you don't have to pay 3rd row SUV premium, look great, the AWD system is on par if not better than Subaru's (watch the test comparisons yourself - not that it matters since we are splitting hairs, but worth noting).
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#8985981 - 03/27/17 10:58 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day.
That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer?
Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price.
Found one :
2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests.
http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323
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#8986094 - 03/28/17 07:50 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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zc911
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used Pilot's too much still huh?
They are so ugly haha, even inside is so bad
Thought about that too, fuel mileage on 09s and down is terrible, 10 and up seems better, I think I need to have another look
I know you are not going to get the Venza, but when I was doing my research the car won on so many different levels and this is one of them (space). It's a very wide vehicle and I always wanted to be able to carry two car seats and my MIL if I had to...and yes you can. This is from Toyota nation (also the v6 hauls ass) We bought the Venza specifically because it was the widest 4 cylinder on the market. We have three car seats in the rear. Two of them are Sunshine Radians (for a one and three year old), and the other is a Graco booster (for a six year old) with back attached. They fit with more than enough room between the car seat and the booster for the oldest to do up his own seat belt. If in doubt get three Sunshine Radians, they are the narrowest car seats you can get. They are pricey, but very well built. We have wider car seats in our van. You could fit them in the Venza, but it is much more difficult. If you can't get them in the Venza then you are going to be getting a minivan or a three row SUV. There is nothing with more hip room measurement then the Venza. Good luck. Also this: yes, and 2 child seats will fit on the 60% rear seat, allowing you to drop down the 40% rear seat to make more room to carry a bulky object in the back cargo area It's such a great car, it's not as big of a barge as an SUV has utility, you don't have to pay 3rd row SUV premium, look great, the AWD system is on par if not better than Subaru's (watch the test comparisons yourself - not that it matters since we are splitting hairs, but worth noting).
Actually before we got the Subaru the Venza was going to be the car we bought, but at that time my wife wanted another manual trans, so that got nixed.
It's still a tempting choice, but I think we could make more use of something with more seats
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#8986097 - 03/28/17 07:52 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day. That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer? Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price. Found one : 2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests. http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323
151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol
The flex is kinda tempting
http://bestbuyauto.carpages.ca/used/2303097/Scarborough/2010-Ford-Flex
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#8986103 - 03/28/17 07:56 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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I like the flex.
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#8986104 - 03/28/17 07:58 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8986111 - 03/28/17 08:08 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day. That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer? Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price. Found one : 2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests. http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol The flex is kinda tempting http://bestbuyauto.carpages.ca/used/2303097/Scarborough/2010-Ford-Flex
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#8986181 - 03/28/17 09:00 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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ya wife doesn't like driving it very much. And I like it and I need it to tow so it's not going anywhere
I added a font bumper to it on the weekend haha.
Next up 4 inch superlift, maybe lol
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#8986248 - 03/28/17 09:33 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#1 I just like it, #2, added weight over the front end. When towing the front end was really light. It's a short wheel base, so some added weight sticking way out front should help, it's 70kg.
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#8986259 - 03/28/17 09:46 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space The height hurts. If it wasn't so damn slow I would drive it lol. Actually forget slow. With all the hills around here the 4cyl is just too small a motor for the size of the car and fuel mileage nose dives
Too bad it wasn't the 3.6, it's night and day, gobs of torque
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#8986268 - 03/28/17 09:56 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space The height hurts. If it wasn't so damn slow I would drive it lol. Actually forget slow. With all the hills around here the 4cyl is just too small a motor for the size of the car and fuel mileage nose dives Too bad it wasn't the 3.6, it's night and day, gobs of torque
It's too bad they never offered a manual for that motor.
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#8986270 - 03/28/17 09:57 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Whatever you get, stay away from Chrysler/Jeep.
Agree! My dad is looking to unload his 2012 Durango r/t because it's a money pit Ac lines went (common issue, super expensive to fix, same with caravan) Hose clamp just blew and caused engine overheat and starter fried Had issue with brake master cylinder or something related Other small issues that added up He's looking into getting a ridgeline
OUCH! I did have a rental 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee and I did not like it, that stupid 8 spd trans was annoying.
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#8986430 - 03/28/17 11:52 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Ford/Flex/Tho...O&orup=14_15_48
They do 0-60 in 6s, and run in the low 14s in 1/4 mile
A reflash gets you into the 13s.
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#8986561 - 03/28/17 12:57 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol
151km since it has the rear entertainment you want. Tons more out there with less km without that feature.
Too be honest I'd save the money and use an iPad. Way more bang for your buck. 5-6 year old cars with those screens are old school and waste of extra money to buy the vehicle with it.
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#8986628 - 03/28/17 01:24 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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ehhh I dunno, the one in my 07 works just fine, and they don't have anything in their hands to fling at their sibling lol
Going to go check out the flex tonight
http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Ford/Flex/Tho...O&orup=14_15_48
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#8986630 - 03/28/17 01:25 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol
151km since it has the rear entertainment you want. Tons more out there with less km without that feature. Too be honest I'd save the money and use an iPad. Way more bang for your buck. 5-6 year old cars with those screens are old school and waste of extra money to buy the vehicle with it.
Ya but then price goes way up with low k
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#8987288 - 03/28/17 08:28 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Went to check out that Flex. Sold before we got there
Tons of space inside wife likes it.
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#8987347 - 03/28/17 09:17 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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I did have a rental 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee and I did not like it, that stupid 8 spd trans was annoying.
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#8987459 - 03/28/17 11:30 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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RDX?
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#8988183 - 03/29/17 01:18 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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haha that would be awesome
Little tempted by Mercedes the R320/R350 diesel
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#8988535 - 03/29/17 04:49 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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German electronics ! A BMW X5 diesel is in price range too but scared of BMW failures lol
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#8988740 - 03/29/17 08:39 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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true, but it doesn't have stuff like air suspension. Just the motor is german, the rest is Dodge, unsure if thats better or worse lol
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#8988745 - 03/29/17 08:41 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-Benz...O&orup=28_15_32
this is the one i was looking at
You can get an ECU flash to disable the 3 points of failure on the motor. the EGR, the swirl valve, and the add blue crap.
I have the ECU flash on the jeep that disabled the EGR and the swirl valve, and i went one step further and deleted the DPF, so i can run real oil, not that low ash crap.
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#8988996 - 03/30/17 07:35 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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I'd get the flex over benz R class...it's also a van  with a fancy badge.
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#8989028 - 03/30/17 08:00 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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R class gets much better fuel mileage being a diesel
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#8989035 - 03/30/17 08:04 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Get a dodge journey, comes with 3rd row and gets pretty good mileage 
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#8989037 - 03/30/17 08:06 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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no thanks  My wife wants the R class, doh. Acutally called and said can we go check out the white one, I really like it
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#8989047 - 03/30/17 08:14 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Yup, you just bought the R class basically.
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#8989127 - 03/30/17 09:11 AM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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zc911
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Yup thanks noticed that, it's been up since it was 32deg out lol
Kinda odd
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#8989535 - 03/30/17 01:22 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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Are swirl flaps that big of a diesel in the Mercedes engines? I've got them in mine, some guys delete them some guys don't.
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#8989664 - 03/30/17 02:26 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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#8989684 - 03/30/17 02:41 PM
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Are swirl flaps that big of a diesel in the Mercedes engines? I've got them in mine, some guys delete them some guys don't.
I'm 99.9% positive that yours doesn't have swirl flaps. The EU motors had them.
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#8989828 - 03/30/17 04:16 PM
Re: can't decide on a used SUV for the wife
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no thanks My wife wants the R class, doh. Acutally called and said can we go check out the white one, I really like it
Before you buy, plug into a diagnostics machine and see how many codes it throws.
Rs depreciate fast for a reason.
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