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#8918221 - 01/20/17 09:42 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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They asked if I wanted to keep the KIA for a few weeks because the window/door seal is on backorder and they are going to overnight it once it's in stock... fuck that shit, I'll take my car back and duct tape my windows instead.

However, my Sales Rep was very nice though, she insisted that I talk to Service and demand for a S but when we asked, they didn't have any so I said don't bother, hopefully it's just one day.

Last night, when I picked my up my car (unwashed and almost empty so I hung around for 30 minutes to charge up), she asked Service if they have an S, which they did so she told him to set me up with it. But when that SA talked to my original SA, they couldn't lend the S (on winter tires) because I would have it for too long so it would've been back to the KIA.

Porsche doesn't always have Porsche loaners on last minute appointments but at least they'll call Affinity and hook you up with at least a 3 series.

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#8918226 - 01/20/17 09:44 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: xza8]
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Drive the other car when it rains? LOL
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#8918241 - 01/20/17 09:57 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
 Originally Posted By: iamfob
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
 Originally Posted By: xza8
 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
Write this on their facebook wall. Elon Musk actually reads them. For the amount paid for their cars, pretty sure people expect to get something a little more fancy as a rental.



good idea!


Already tweeted and IG'd him, he doesn't care.

I don't even really care it was a KIA... what pissed me off is the lack of winter tires to tackle the freezing rain a few days ago. Even my Nokian struggled.


That sucks. Took my Lexus in for some service and I got an ES250. If Toyota can afford to do that, so can Tesla.


To have 10 Tesla Model S or X loaners, it will cost the dealer over $1 million. An entry level Lexus ES250 is $50,000 or so. You do the math captain


Why do they need to have 10? Can they have 2 or 3? Maybe combine it with a test drive fleet? The math looks impractical due to your unrealistic example. For a dealership that sells $100k vehicles, pretty sure they have more margins/ budget for this.

Perhaps even a little higher end vehicle or something other than a bottom of the barrel Kia.


Budds BMW have 35 3-series loaners at their dealer and they still rent from Enterprise because they runs out of loaners once in awhile. Well they are a busy BMW dealerships in the Oakville area. I don't expect Tesla is as busy as a BMW dealerships but having 2-3 loaners and adding their demo units into the mix will not solve the problem. The expenses of maintaining a fleet of loaners is far more expensive than you think. Most dealers will have minimal number of loaners and outsourced the overrun to a 3rd party rental car agencies. It's cheaper and less liabilities involved.

What if a potential customers walk in to the Tesla dealer wanting to test drive a Tesla but the said demo car is gone to OP because his X is in the shop? It won't work as dealer always separate their loaners and demo units for the above reason.

Just because Tesla sells for $100K each, it doesn't mean they make a huge profit/margin to make it rain in their loaner/demo fleets. The money is better off spend on buying new inventory to sell for the next customers to make additional profit. You have never been in the business and have no idea what you are talking about.
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#8918263 - 01/20/17 10:15 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: iamfob]
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Ok. Thanks Europic#2.

Yes. You are correct. I've never owned a car dealership or worked at car rental company. Will have to refer to your great insight when I do.

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#8918430 - 01/20/17 11:09 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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I think you guys are forgetting something here. Tesla is not a premium luxury car. They cost that much because of the tech. The inside is cheap as fuck for a car costing this much. So, you cannot compare services to others. Just my opinion as a hator!
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#8918543 - 01/20/17 11:43 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Hatorade]
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you equate interior quality to anticipated level of service?
hator logic is broken.
100k car is 100k car. their target market expects a a specific standard of service. they are a legit business--this isn't alibaba or sisley honda
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#8918548 - 01/20/17 11:44 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
I think you guys are forgetting something here. Tesla is not a premium luxury car. They cost that much because of the tech. The inside is cheap as fuck for a car costing this much. So, you cannot compare services to others. Just my opinion as a hator!


i actually agree with you!

amount of money does not always equal luxury.

edit: what he is saying is they are not setup to service their customers like a other luxury brands because they are not promoting the overall experience that most luxury brands provide, just the fact that they are super fast electric non-gas guzzling expensive cars that have a cool ceo


Edited by Simon_the_Pieman (01/20/17 11:46 AM)
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#8918599 - 01/20/17 12:09 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
you equate interior quality to anticipated level of service?
hator logic is broken.
100k car is 100k car. their target market expects a a specific standard of service. they are a legit business--this isn't alibaba or sisley honda


Nope, you read wrong. I'm saying you cannot equate the cost of the car to equal out on service...duh!!! Pieman is on point.

and LOL fucking L at sisley XD XD XD
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#8918682 - 01/20/17 12:46 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
you equate interior quality to anticipated level of service?
hator logic is broken.
100k car is 100k car. their target market expects a a specific standard of service. they are a legit business--this isn't alibaba or sisley honda


But but but think of the cost of running the fleet, think of the liability, think of the children?!!!!one!1111!!! Kia for everyone, it is the only way.


The money is better off spend on buying new inventory to sell for the next customers to make additional profit. You have never been in the business and have no idea what you are talking about.

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#8918898 - 01/20/17 02:59 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Teslas are routinely listed under "Luxury electric cars". Same as the i8.

They even have luxury features that competitors top level luxury cars don't even have. I'd pick a Tesla S over a Mercedes S anyday.
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#8918931 - 01/20/17 03:21 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Just A Troll]
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we've seen reports where tesla is pretty much last place for dealer service as per customer scores. we now see why lol.

but they are not as experienced/nor been around long enough so it takes awhile to build up a good level.
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#8918950 - 01/20/17 03:37 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
Teslas are routinely listed under "Luxury electric cars". Same as the i8.

They even have luxury features that competitors top level luxury cars don't even have. I'd pick a Tesla S over a Mercedes S anyday.


Fail confirmed.
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#8918979 - 01/20/17 04:05 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Hatorade]
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lol, they do use Mercedes parts. Same window switches and signal levers as older C-class.

But fit and finish like Ford Focus.
https://youtu.be/lItIyxGZUZQ?t=10m5s
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#8919013 - 01/20/17 04:37 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
Teslas are routinely listed under "Luxury electric cars". Same as the i8.

They even have luxury features that competitors top level luxury cars don't even have. I'd pick a Tesla S over a Mercedes S anyday.

So much fail in that statement

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#8919708 - 01/21/17 11:42 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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LOL @ Tesla over MB

This car doesn't even have lighted cupholders... which I realized when I was struggling to put my Chatime down.

The only thing Tesla has over its competitors is autopilot, which we are still waiting as Elon has promised this since December and tweets every few days it'll be ready in a few days.

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#8919762 - 01/21/17 12:28 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: xza8]
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 Originally Posted By: xza8

This car doesn't even have lighted cupholders... which I realized when I was struggling to put my Chatime down.




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#8920431 - 01/22/17 08:29 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Risky Business]
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The coolest feature Tesla offers is the valet future or whatever it is called that you can't use in Canada.
It automatically backs out the car from the garage.
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#8921092 - 01/22/17 08:43 PM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Choco 'Nuck
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I got a Genesis sedan when my gen coupe got rear-ended.


I got a BMW X1 when the front end was taken off my Coupe. Would have preferred driving my car without the front end :P

Dennis gun be mad....


I still have to try one w/ the xdrive28 - i've heard they do lack a bit of oomph.
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#8921334 - 01/23/17 08:48 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: hyper-s2k]
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honda will sell the FCX clarity here by year end but it'll be a hybrid one, not the hydroden. there's also a new all-electric car planned for 2018 i believe. yes not "luxury" level but another option.
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#8921426 - 01/23/17 09:39 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Choco 'Nuck
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Teslas are routinely listed under "Luxury electric cars". Same as the i8.

They even have luxury features that competitors top level luxury cars don't even have. I'd pick a Tesla S over a Mercedes S anyday.

So much fail in that statement


Well, the Tesla doesn't depreciate like the Merc S. That's a win right there.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g55...-crash/?slide=6


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#8921455 - 01/23/17 09:51 AM Re: My Loaner Car from Tesla [Re: porschetr]
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lol, they do use Mercedes parts. Same window switches and signal levers as older C-class.

But fit and finish like Ford Focus.
https://youtu.be/lItIyxGZUZQ?t=10m5s


quote from the end of that video:

"So why is the tesla model X an awful car? IT ISN'T! You better get ready for it, this is the future."
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