#8831187 - 10/27/16 07:19 AM
Dealership negotiation lols (purchased)
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Risky Business
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So is it pretty much set that there is no wiggle room on used cars when it comes to let's say Toyota? Almost seems it's better to buy brand new.
$25k list, sells for 25k and so on, no price drop?
They really hold their values even though they lowballed whoever traded it in for 18k or something.
update:
Bought the car last night, 2013 V6 Venza limited awd, pano roof, navi, etc. Really happy about the purchase, got exactly what I wanted (black on black - rare to find for some reason, most interiors are cream  ).
Comes with extended Toyota warranty.
Some advice from this thread came in handy: smaller dealers are MUCH better based on my experience. Dealers further away from the city are more willing to deal and are more competitively priced to attract people to come to them. Being end of the month and paying cash also helped close this. 
Couple of mods are inbound, front windows are getting tinted by the dealer, will also get the oem roof rack + tow hitch and remove the mudflaps in the near future. I think I can have a rear facing baby seat in there without sitting inside the glovebox/on top of the dash as well. Such mods wow.
Price was $23k before tax.
At the auction a similar speced car goes for just a hair over 20k. Don Valley North/Stouffville Toyota ask about 26ish. Came in the middle I guess, kind of at the point where I keep cars long enough that I'd rather pay a few k more and get exactly what I want than live with regret l e l
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#8831216 - 10/27/16 08:03 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Well you always read on forums how people rawfish dealerships, but i guess that's mostly on brand new cars, it doesn't happen as much on used since that's where the margins are.
Was at Don Valley north Toyota, they wouldn't budge on anything. It's like an RFD'ers nightmare, yet they are the biggest Toyota dealer in the country selling 400 new /200 used cars a month. 
The fanboyism with Toyota products is insane, he says 4runners/FJ cruisers are the worst, absolutely not worth buying used. People buy them brand new, drive them for 4 years and trade them in for like 4-5k less than what they paid for them. JFC
I also learned 50% of used cars have been in some sort of a reported collision, their vehicle registry showed every second car with a claim.
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#8831258 - 10/27/16 08:40 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Pretty sure no indian/Asian grand father will do shit there, they will tell him to fuck off asap and go troll RFD LOL They really don't care 
Offer was all cash on the spot.
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#8831341 - 10/27/16 09:40 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Choco 'Nuck
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Lulz, you can rawfish the dealer on a new car based on invoice pricing, but you don't see the backend from manufacturer to dealer, so it an illusion. e.g, I paid invoice + $700 with no admin fees, but in Canada, there is no site to show you the back end payout. In the US there, so you can rawfish even more.
That said, dealer is looking to make 3-5k per car on a used car, so if you can deal with kijiji dirt peeps, you might save a bundle. I couldn't deal with them, I traded my wife's mini and took the cash hit
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#8831380 - 10/27/16 09:51 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Do the end of the month, end of the day thing. If you can wait until the dead of winter to pull the trigger, they will be more willing to negotiate.
When I was shopping for my used Lexus, I got it Feb 28th. Was able to get them down another $1000 on $36,500k which was already $3k lower than a lower trimmed version. I also got $3k before tax for my 2002 EP. 
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#8831404 - 10/27/16 10:01 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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The problem is that most used cars worth buying are the ones getting traded in at the dealer. The dealers always get the best kept/maintained vehicles in general. So you either pay a little more and get one from them, pay a little less and get a dirt peep version of the same car. Privately you can get lucky, but most owners don't want the hassle and just trade in direct, mostly scum cars end up on kijiji anyway. 
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#8831427 - 10/27/16 10:16 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Yeah.....Maybe keep an eye on lease busters?
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#8831492 - 10/27/16 10:43 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Pretty sure no indian/Asian grand father will do shit there, they will tell him to fuck off asap and go troll RFD LOL They really don't care Offer was all cash on the spot.
sigh, such is Toronto/GTA buying power now and sales ppl in any field are having the life. pretty much all they have to say nowadays is "if you don't buy it (at this price), someone will" - homes, cars, etc.
/bcuz rich folk
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#8831504 - 10/27/16 10:47 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Would a smaller town dealer give a better deal? There are 3-4 Venzas at the dealer here in the Hammer.
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#8831611 - 10/27/16 11:40 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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I don't need the car at all to be honest, it's just one of those things once I set my mind to it I want to get it done and "check it off the list" of bullshit.
I am looking at one more today and most likely the last one for a while. A bit of a drive, but it has everything I want and they actually have it on the lot and not trying to do a bait and switch "oh we don't have THAT one, but we have THIS one" mofos.
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#8831788 - 10/27/16 12:43 PM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Thanks to shitty new cars and the deal T&C gave me, I can sell my car with my loss only being taxes after owning for 3 years XD XD XD XD XD the car has also been unused for 3 years XD XD XD
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#8831798 - 10/27/16 12:45 PM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Shit cars go to auction
Nice cars stay on the lot
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#8832106 - 10/27/16 03:02 PM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Shit girls go to auction
Nice girls stay on the lot
fixed for soviet russia
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#8832277 - 10/27/16 05:10 PM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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Do the end of the month, end of the day thing. If you can wait until the dead of winter to pull the trigger, they will be more willing to negotiate. When I was shopping for my used Lexus, I got it Feb 28th. Was able to get them down another $1000 on $36,500k which was already $3k lower than a lower trimmed version. I also got $3k before tax for my 2002 EP.
+1 for end of the month deals. Anyone that has ever worked at a car dealer knows there is always pressure on salesman and even the dealership from headoffice to meet the targets.
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#8832533 - 10/27/16 10:01 PM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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xza8
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any tips on negotiating on a tesla
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#8832664 - 10/28/16 07:12 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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any tips on negotiating on a tesla
I can ask my partner, he has the p85 and two model 3's on order. I don't think there is much in the way of negotiation, the price is the price.
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#8832668 - 10/28/16 07:17 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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zc911
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Good score, there is TONS of room in the back for a baby Risky without the front passenger humping the glove box
FYI they sell lowering springs, and I think they look good dropped on a set of aftermarket wheels
Edited by zc911 (10/28/16 07:18 AM)
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#8832681 - 10/28/16 07:45 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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next month: top poster status on venzaforums
much wows! =)
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#8832709 - 10/28/16 08:16 AM
Re: Dealership negotiation lols
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I should change the seats, probably the biggest complaint. It's like sitting on a picnic table, no support whatsoever when I hit up da twistiez.
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#8832715 - 10/28/16 08:24 AM
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