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#8708322 - 06/27/16 09:47 PM Ballers: BMW m3
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V8

i'm looking for a used. I'm loving the V8 m3 styling, but is Mpower $$$$$ to repair?

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#8708342 - 06/27/16 10:04 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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If it wasn't for the reliability issues of the v8 I would totally be rocking an e90 m3 as a daily.

Inline 6 m3s are as reliable as your run of the mill civic, some parts need more attention (cooling) but other than that plenty of examples of people going 400k+ on those stock motors. Stick to e46 if you want reliable.

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#8708351 - 06/27/16 10:09 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Only thing that I've seen "common" with the V8 are the throttle actuators. Nothing else mechanically that isn't "common with the regular 3 series. That said, if you are only concerned about reliability, then yes, the E46 is slightly more reliable.

I will say though, the M's don't seem to be prone to leaky gaskets as much as the non-Ms.
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#8708428 - 06/27/16 11:11 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: phoenixrage]
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rod bearings are a problem for both e46 and e9x.


I would test drive both and go from there. The e9x is more of a gt cruiser compared to the more rough e46m3(imo. the e46 will also have more of an old school feel by comparison). You may prefer one style over the other.

the v8 gets abysmal mpg too.
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#8708502 - 06/28/16 07:23 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Probably explains why Hatorade doesn't drive his
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#8708510 - 06/28/16 07:37 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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the v8 gets abysmal mpg too.


Yea, this was my other big concern with it. Makes for a terrible daily with F150 mpg on premium too \:\(

335d would make more sense, but the 4 door m3 looks sooooooooooooooooooo good.

GimpCivic daily drives one, I wonder how it's holding up.



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#8708535 - 06/28/16 08:06 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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#8708552 - 06/28/16 08:29 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Are all e9X the same?

There is a 2010 M3 in london ontario.
Ok, nevermind, I think it's been sold. It was a white e9x, Coupe, Manual, Navi. pretty much loaded for $37k. 7x,xxx'KM

Do you guys trust the pre-owned straight from the dealership? How about those kijiji used car dealerships?

I love the 4door and coupe.

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#8708555 - 06/28/16 08:31 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Love mine. I average 13l/100kms. Not crazy bad considering I use to get 12.6l/100kms on the G35.
But if you drive pure city it is a going to hit 14.5l/100 easy lol

I have had zero issues with so far, car had a clean history with no warranty work done at all. Main problems with this car is throttle actuators and rod bearings. Most people are doing RB as preventive maintenance, and cost wise is around $3k or the cost of a set of wheels lol. Forgot to mention AC evap is known to leak and the wonderful engineers decided to put this behind the dash where it is inaccessible and requires the dash to come out.
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#8708577 - 06/28/16 08:45 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
Are all e9X the same?

There is a 2010 M3 in london ontario.
Ok, nevermind, I think it's been sold. It was a white e9x, Coupe, Manual, Navi. pretty much loaded for $37k. 7x,xxx'KM

Do you guys trust the pre-owned straight from the dealership? How about those kijiji used car dealerships?

I love the 4door and coupe.


2009+ is lci. Taillights got a refresh and nav was updated along with some interior changes. IMO I wouldn't touch one of these without a full service history. Oil changes are crucial for the RB health along with diff fluid changes.
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#8708768 - 06/28/16 10:37 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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Love mine. I average 13l/100kms. Not crazy bad considering I use to get 12.6l/100kms on the G35.
But if you drive pure city it is a going to hit 14.5l/100 easy lol

I have had zero issues with so far, car had a clean history with no warranty work done at all. Main problems with this car is throttle actuators and rod bearings. Most people are doing RB as preventive maintenance, and cost wise is around $3k or the cost of a set of wheels lol. Forgot to mention AC evap is known to leak and the wonderful engineers decided to put this behind the dash where it is inaccessible and requires the dash to come out.


What did you have again?

I wouldn't mind a E46, I'm just hung on something a bit newer. I don't mind exploring a 335 for an inline 6 motor. This i can probably make it a daily, 4 door, xDrive (yay or nay?).


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#8708840 - 06/28/16 11:36 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Flashed 335 is quicker than the v8. \:o


Go drive some. Do you want an ///m car or not ?
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#8708908 - 06/28/16 12:26 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Whats the hype with BMWs other than drives nicely
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#8708925 - 06/28/16 12:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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Whats the hype with BMWs other than drives nicely


What cars in the e90 m3 price range should we care about?

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#8708947 - 06/28/16 12:46 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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S4/S5 and C63

Its all preference at this point but I find the BMWs too stiff

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#8708973 - 06/28/16 01:05 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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C63 doesn't have a manual option so you throw that one out for a lot of people.
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#8709049 - 06/28/16 02:04 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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shouldnt gas mileage be no concern if you are buying such an amazing machine?

and how are parts (cost/availability) for these vehicles? pay to play no?

if you gonna buy one of these types of cars, shouldn't you be ballin enough to maintain/fix it?
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#8709054 - 06/28/16 02:13 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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get whatever is in this one

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#8709059 - 06/28/16 02:16 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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shouldnt gas mileage be no concern if you are buying such an amazing machine?

and how are parts (cost/availability) for these vehicles? pay to play no?

if you gonna buy one of these types of cars, shouldn't you be ballin enough to maintain/fix it?


some of us poors try to enjoy the finer things in life on a budget

my issue is that cheaper alternatives to the m3 with comparable performance are available (335d)...your gas bill is effectively half...can't ignore that (I can't anyway). If there weren't alternatives then it's a moot point.

But on the contrary a stock looking e90 body 335d does nothing for me so I will continue to poor away with a non bmw.

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#8709076 - 06/28/16 02:27 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Comparible performance ?
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#8709083 - 06/28/16 02:30 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
Comparible performance ?


lol, yeah this!

(minus the third-grade spelling)

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#8709085 - 06/28/16 02:33 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#8709102 - 06/28/16 02:50 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
Comparible performance ?


lol, yeah this!

(minus the third-grade spelling)


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#8709130 - 06/28/16 03:17 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Read this thread and please tell me if you still want an E9x M3 \:D
The thread contains photos of rod bearings in various state, as owners preemptively crack the motors open to replace them.

THEY ARE BAD.
I shat bricks.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1253084

I considered m3 a few years ago. I cross shopped it against the boss mustang.
I went boss. no regrets. would do again XD why not buy a boss? yup.
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#8709136 - 06/28/16 03:19 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Comparible performance ?


oh look who it is, the guy that wants to split hairs over two very capable cars compiribilie on the street.

On paper a lightly modded 335d will not be that far off from the m3. I suppose feels are different, don't know, don't care.

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#8709156 - 06/28/16 03:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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holy shit lolololol must have sounded like a tractor


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#8709206 - 06/28/16 03:58 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I already mentioned it. But if you plan for that as being maintenance (same for the s54 in the e46 m3 )....it's not so bad
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#8709221 - 06/28/16 04:11 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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lol @ rod bearings being "maintenance"

imo, that job should require new bearings, micropolishing the crank, rod bolts, main bolts, new main bearings, all new gaskets.....yep sounds like maintenance to me.


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#8709229 - 06/28/16 04:18 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Wow...the e90 Risky posted looks nice.

I bought my 2010 e90 M3 DCT as a CPO about 3 years ago and at that point it had about 29k kms. I currently have ~56k kms on it now and in that time I had to do the following:

-replace OEM battery $300+
-replace 2x throttle actuators (covered under CPO...but would have been thousands from what I've heard)
-oil changes every 7k-10k kms ($180 each)
-waiting for takata air bags from the recall;

Other than that the car has been reliable and an exceptionally good daily driver. If I intend to keep the car I will look into additional warranty coverage as the rod bearing thing has me a bit worried. Remember, even though you're paying $30-$50k for a used M3 you will be paying for repairs and parts for a car worth $80-90k.

Hatorade and Euphoric are right about the fuel economy. I get on average 12.5L/100km and that's 90% hwy. I think it's about a 60-65L tank and I get about 400kms on a tank.

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#8709238 - 06/28/16 04:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Ya it's a maintenance item. So what .


It's just the rod bearings. No need to pull the crank unless you have to.
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#8709240 - 06/28/16 04:30 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I've never heard of rod bearings being basic maintenance and a normal thing.
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#8709243 - 06/28/16 04:31 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: JEFFOS]
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It is for the s54 and s65 engines.
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#8709244 - 06/28/16 04:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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lol just rod bearings. just.

granted the crank is forged steel but you have to remember what abnormal/excess heat can do to a bearing/crank surface.

where you get your engineering degree? walmart have a sale?

then after another 50k:



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#8709253 - 06/28/16 04:42 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Yup lol. Would not go near it. Buy an e36 m3 /euphoric/vas/4age
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#8709256 - 06/28/16 04:43 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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U know what, with those engine "maintenance" items, may as well be a rotary. Please buy fd rx7. Kthnxbye
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#8709260 - 06/28/16 04:45 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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What do you mean rebuilding your engine after every oil change isn't regular maintenance? /euphoric
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#8709269 - 06/28/16 04:53 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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wash car, change oil, change air filter, take apart head and replace valves. maintenance yo.
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#8709307 - 06/28/16 05:25 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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You guys are fucking tards. 4age spreading an issue that is over blown if one is so worried do a black stone report and if lead readings are high do the bearings for $3k instead of buying ricer parts.
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#8709318 - 06/28/16 05:31 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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What in the fuck does that have to do with anything ?

Trolltards working overtime in here.


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#8709348 - 06/28/16 06:12 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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You guys are fucking tards. 4age spreading an issue that is over blown if one is so worried do a black stone report and if lead readings are high do the bearings for $3k instead of buying ricer parts.


So doing a uoa for each oil change is m3 practice then? Sounds great \:D fwiw some of the motors in the thread have under 60k miles with scores on the bearings already. It's pretty scary dude. If one tracks this car or drives more than 3k per year (lol), it becomes a real concern--especially as mileage and age goes up.

Not sure I am blowing anything out of proportion. No other car comes to memory with a similar flaw (other than the e46m). My 240z was on original bearings and the guy who bought my car did a rebuild. Bearings were spotless. Why can't the bmw take more than 28k miles before scoring the bearings (yes there is a car in the thread with scores bearings at this mileage)??? That's a lot of money to pay for a car with a design flaw imo. Also, no one on here mentioned the service life of the m rear differential. It's 80k miles. See your owners manual. It calls for replacement beyond that mileage. It simply no longer produces full lock and begins clunking during performance driving.

None of this happens to a mustang XD
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#8709358 - 06/28/16 06:21 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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sounds like bmw didn't really think through a high revving V8 enough.

not going to be a wally like euphoricuck, I'd still want to own one if I could deal with all the issues.


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#8709359 - 06/28/16 06:25 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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For the last time boro. Mileage has nothing to do with RB wear. There have been cars with 5k and the bearings go lol. As I said instead of buying gay overpriced shit like adv's or hre one can do bearings instead.

There are plenty of high mileage M's around on original bearings. We're talking 100k to over 200k miles.
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#8709360 - 06/28/16 06:26 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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sounds like bmw didn't really think through a high revving V8 enough.


Or the E46...
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#8709362 - 06/28/16 06:27 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Wait so this isn't part of your daily lives?


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#8709368 - 06/28/16 06:31 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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^it is for you. Lawl mkiv
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#8709369 - 06/28/16 06:32 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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For the last time boro. Mileage has nothing to do with RB wear. There have been cars with 5k and the bearings go lol. As I said instead of buying gay overpriced shit like adv's or hre one can do bearings instead.

There are plenty of high mileage M's around on original bearings. We're talking 100k to over 200k miles.



So you're telling me it's like buying a lottery? XD that's too much excitement for me man. I will stick to my turd wagon XD
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#8709370 - 06/28/16 06:33 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.

I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.
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#8709375 - 06/28/16 06:38 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
For the last time boro. Mileage has nothing to do with RB wear. There have been cars with 5k and the bearings go lol. As I said instead of buying gay overpriced shit like adv's or hre one can do bearings instead.

There are plenty of high mileage M's around on original bearings. We're talking 100k to over 200k miles.


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#8709376 - 06/28/16 06:41 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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For the last time boro. Mileage has nothing to do with RB wear. There have been cars with 5k and the bearings go lol. As I said instead of buying gay overpriced shit like adv's or hre one can do bearings instead.

There are plenty of high mileage M's around on original bearings. We're talking 100k to over 200k miles.



So you're telling me it's like buying a lottery? XD that's too much excitement for me man. I will stick to my turd wagon XD


Like ims lottery? Still not understanding the issue? It's not like it just blows if one is actually paying attention to their car. There are tell tail signs like random ticks, oil temps are higher. For sure this is a fuck up by BMW and shouldn't be happening in a modern engine. Yet something so highly documented on the Internet and BMW dealers rarely ever encounter RB blowing an engine. The fact that Phoenix has never heard of this major issue being a common one really says something.
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#8709377 - 06/28/16 06:42 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.

I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.


Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.

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#8709411 - 06/28/16 07:09 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
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#8709413 - 06/28/16 07:10 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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I have yet to see an E9X M3 come in for RB... but I have seen a 335i and a few X5 35i's that needed new engines because of RB..

All due to lack of maintenance. Partially its BMW's fault for telling the owners that they can go 15-20k before an oil change... WTF.

As for EVAPs, thats with any E9X and anything in those years (X5s, X3s). We've been doing at least 2 a week since it got warm out. And yes, you do gotta remove the whole dash to get to it, if its a coupe/conv, you also gotta remove the centre console (that goes all the way to the back seats).
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#8709464 - 06/28/16 07:57 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: phoenixrage]
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All due to lack of maintenance. Partially its BMW's fault for telling the owners that they can go 15-20k before an oil change... WTF.

ya its well known to disregard their silly intervals. at least in the enthusiast community.
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#8709510 - 06/28/16 08:41 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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You guys are fucking tards. 4age spreading an issue that is over blown if one is so worried do a black stone report and if lead readings are high do the bearings for $3k instead of buying ricer parts.


So doing a uoa for each oil change is m3 practice then? Sounds great \:D fwiw some of the motors in the thread have under 60k miles with scores on the bearings already. It's pretty scary dude. If one tracks this car or drives more than 3k per year (lol), it becomes a real concern--especially as mileage and age goes up.

Not sure I am blowing anything out of proportion. No other car comes to memory with a similar flaw (other than the e46m). My 240z was on original bearings and the guy who bought my car did a rebuild. Bearings were spotless. Why can't the bmw take more than 28k miles before scoring the bearings (yes there is a car in the thread with scores bearings at this mileage)??? That's a lot of money to pay for a car with a design flaw imo. Also, no one on here mentioned the service life of the m rear differential. It's 80k miles. See your owners manual. It calls for replacement beyond that mileage. It simply no longer produces full lock and begins clunking during performance driving.

None of this happens to a mustang XD


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#8709544 - 06/28/16 09:24 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.

I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.


Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.


i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic

a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP

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#8709557 - 06/28/16 09:55 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.

I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.


Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.


i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic

a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP


WTF are you blabbering about? A Corolla is enough to get one in trouble...
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#8709567 - 06/28/16 10:25 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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Ya I don't know why he went off on that tangent Ina thread about m3s. ..after he suggested c63 and s4s
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#8709569 - 06/28/16 10:27 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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Rod bearing disaster

Proof that rod bearings do kill M3's!!!!11one
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#8709587 - 06/28/16 11:06 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.

I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.


Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.


i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic

a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP


WTF are you blabbering about? A Corolla is enough to get one in trouble...


Are you saying that you make good use of the incremental performance of your M3 over the 335d? There's a point where it doesn't matter. I red line the first 2 gears in my little non AMG C450 and I'm already at 100 and way ahead of everyone and screaming to YRP to pull me over. Maybe I don't have the guts to continue and that is where the M/AMG equivalent shines. Racing to the next red gets boring after a while.

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#8709600 - 06/28/16 11:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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#8709632 - 06/29/16 04:22 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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#8709647 - 06/29/16 06:21 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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Euphoric doesn't know shit and just reads shit all day



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#8709649 - 06/29/16 06:24 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
you can't be serious


Yes I am, couldn't help but roll my eyes when Hatorade said they are "completely" different cars.

A modded GSR is COMPLETELY different from an ITR
A modded E36 328 is COMPLETELY different from an E36 M3
A modded 335d is COMPLETELY different from an e90 M3

Am i doing it right?

No doubt feelz will be different, on paper the cars will not be far off (hence why i said they are comparable), but i don't think we are able to discuss this objectively because too many egos. Too bad, Hator could provide a decent review if he was objective. \:D

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#8709710 - 06/29/16 08:02 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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back on topic :P

OP - Not sure which I6 you're comparing it to...butcompared to the e46 m3, the e90 is a much more refined, comfy ride. The e46 is more raw and is almost impossible to find an unmolested one.

The F8x m3 is a physically larger car. Almost felt like driving a previous gen 5 series. It's a better car in all measurable KPIs but I personally prefer NA engines.

As for the e36 m3, I'm not going to comment as this isn't a real M3 :P j/k.

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#8709754 - 06/29/16 08:59 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
you can't be serious


Yes I am, couldn't help but roll my eyes when Hatorade said they are "completely" different cars.

A modded GSR is COMPLETELY different from an ITR
A modded E36 328 is COMPLETELY different from an E36 M3
A modded 335d is COMPLETELY different from an e90 M3

Am i doing it right?



Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).

An M3 though - everything on an M3 can be bolted onto a standard 3 series.
The part that is truly bespoke for the M3 is the drivetrain. Though whether one accepts the flaw(s) in the E9x M3 drivetrain or not is up one's self to decide XD

For a street only car, I'd argue a 335IS has more useable power, and can be just as fun. You can buy M3 suspension bits on the cheap if you want to make it feeelz like an M3. Front arms, shocks/springs, rear subframe bushings...and it's much more rare to boot.

Though if one truly appreciates the M for what it is, I cannot argue against emotions or whatever. You just gotta accept the car for what it is (like Hator undoubtedly has). Nothing wrong with that. But know that the rod bearings and rear diff issue is FACT.
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#8709759 - 06/29/16 09:04 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: GimpCivic]
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As for the e36 m3, I'm not going to comment as this isn't a real M3 :P j/k.



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#8709765 - 06/29/16 09:13 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: GimpCivic]
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the e90 is a much more refined, comfy ride.
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#8709771 - 06/29/16 09:18 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).



Do quote where I said GSR = ITR...that reading comprehension.

Is everyone high today?

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#8709780 - 06/29/16 09:21 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Wow vague much back pedal.
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#8709783 - 06/29/16 09:23 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).



Do quote where I said GSR = ITR...that reading comprehension.

Is everyone high today?


Yes, everyone is high.
One person vehemently defends the E9x M3 flaws.
Another person still considers buying one.
Another person compares 335D to M3.
Another person calls E36 M a fake M. Dafuq. That's like saying the ITR is a fake ITR, 'cause the compression ratio is different, and we also get different front ends. Fake integra.
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#8709787 - 06/29/16 09:25 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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#8709792 - 06/29/16 09:27 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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Just ask c2k, his Neon 2.0 Expresso was an SRT-4.


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#8709914 - 06/29/16 11:02 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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XzA8, when are you dumping the merc for one of these ?


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#8709960 - 06/29/16 11:45 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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#8709964 - 06/29/16 11:48 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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#8710279 - 06/29/16 02:33 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: iamfob]
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So is OP buying an m3? \:D
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#8710712 - 06/29/16 10:07 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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XzA8, when are you dumping the merc for one of these ?



I had a Panamera, made the mistake of getting the plug in version (for green plates to commute downtown since the Tesla is not even remotely luxurious at this pricepoint) but once i stopped going dt, the car just sat in the garage so I got rid of it and lost 30k.

Neighbour has a Panamera S and I love the exhaust note.

I'd probably go with the S class instead if I get a full size sedan.

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#8711049 - 06/30/16 10:31 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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Lots of people daily drive E9x M3's, myself included. Ok so you MAY have bearing problems, and the MDX I'm looking may grenade a transmission, I could find other examples. It's machinery, you want low cost/low enjoyment, go buy a corolla.
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#8714160 - 07/04/16 11:01 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I'm looking at a few cars.

- AMG CL45 (would be a new lease, all others below would be a used)
- BMW M3 - E9X ( i love this look, good information in this thread on the issues, but it looks like it's up to the owner for proactive maintenance)
- M3 e9X 4 door
- 335 xdrive
- Porsche Cayenne (they're are quite cheap, why?)

As much as a car enthusiast as i am. My time for performance and fast speeds has come to a stop. I really am going for something more for the "flash" yet with some power.

I had a Integra, modded to the max, but more so for performance. I think this was the worst decision i've ever made. I told myself, that the next car i purchase, i'll purchase it for the flash and not the dash.

The flash is what gets the girls. You think the chicks know the difference between a Audi R8 V8 vs the V12? As a guy, i would pick up the V12, but wtf. NO one knows it's a v12 except for the boys. (This statement is just an analogy, most of us are married, me soon time).

anyway.

Should i pick up a BMWZ m3 E9X from the dealership? and purchase warranty (is this what you guys are saying)? \:D

How do you know if the RB's are Fxsd?




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#8714199 - 07/04/16 11:28 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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The flash is what gets the girls.

it was all going so well...until you typed this garbo.


How do you know ? Ask....or there should be record of it. And it'll probably be advertised stating it's been done .
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#8714261 - 07/04/16 12:20 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Lol if u want to stunt on them hoes, get a Lambo.
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#8714263 - 07/04/16 12:26 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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The flash is what gets the girls.

it was all going so well...until you typed this garbo.


How do you know ? Ask....or there should be record of it. And it'll probably be advertised stating it's been done .



Flash is what gets the clients, essentially the foreign cash monies, thus, these people don't know shit. Which is exactly the same as most of the girls (which is why i used this analogy).
I would get a car out of the box and not have to deal with modding anything. Maybe Chip (if BMW's do that, i know audi's do this). Slap on some rims, tint, call it a day.

Lambo out of my price range by almost 2000points.


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#8714267 - 07/04/16 12:36 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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#8714274 - 07/04/16 12:52 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#8714277 - 07/04/16 12:55 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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+1 on the flash if this is for biz, and your target is the chinar monies XD
In that case, you should get something new (i assume you can write this off).

E90 you have rod bearings and the rear diff (though a non issue if you aren't really driving the thing hard XD), the cla45 is super nice, but you are living with 26psi boost. With that motor boosted to the moon and the heat it needs to deal with, i bet running costs will be high as the car ages. Pick your poison XD

Cayenne resale is bad - read up on consumer reviews. Maint is bad too. Plus, p car tax is even greater than bmw tax. Enjoy buying parts to service the thing.

Go buy an S4 /clubsiOT.
Dealers are giving lots of incentive for them as the new gen is coming out.
There's a nice red one with low km's on trader asking 43 iirc (it's a 2015).

335 has its fare share of issues too (hffp, carbon build up, turbos, coil packs, water pump, tstat etc).

If you are really after flash and you are driving prospects around, an audi or benz interior is arguably light years ahead of bmw (esp the e90 gen...which looks a bit OG--i happen to like it, but to many it's going to seem dated).
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#8714289 - 07/04/16 01:25 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Not sure what line of work you're in but there isn't much flash when it comes to the e9X m3.

Are you driving people around?

You're better off getting a used Bentley or just go lease a luxo barge like the new S Class

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Bentley/Cont...O&orup=11_15_66

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#8714293 - 07/04/16 01:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: GimpCivic]
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^ yup. Why waste time with those options?
S class and be done with it.
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#8714321 - 07/04/16 02:42 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Op get an Audi A7 s Line used if you want to stunt on a budget.

An e90 m3 looks like an "older" 3 series to most and the general population doesn't appreciate the beautiful distinct features of the m car that sets it aside from a base 3.


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#8714323 - 07/04/16 02:44 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Wow this is the best suggestion in the entire thread.
Used A7 sline. /endthread.
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#8714345 - 07/04/16 03:22 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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after spending the weekend in new York and seeing my cousins and his friends M3; I kinda want a bearing problem NA v8.





I really liked this car. super clean looking, v8, revvs to 8+k.

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#8714347 - 07/04/16 03:26 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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In for e90 m3 CSI group buy \:\|
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#8714358 - 07/04/16 03:37 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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#8716107 - 07/06/16 12:23 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I always wanted an M3.

WTF. i'm not made of money, i am looking for a used M3 (which is the top of my budget).

I've found 2010/11 E9X with 80-90km, Manual for $36k at BMW Dealerships. Compared this to a $1100Lease (x12months x 3 years = 39k) for S4 or CLA45.

Leasing is good for my business, but been on this no car payment thing for 2 years now and i'm kinda liking it.

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#8716108 - 07/06/16 12:23 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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I"m in for a group by E90 M3.

Lets go!

Edit: I don't particularly drive clients around, and if i do, it's usually 2 people MAX. With some of my clientele, they can care less how comfortable the car is if it's an M. lol.

Al though, a more business route would be to pick up a nicer 4 door. Just not sure what, C300 are cheap and nice. But then it's like i have two 4-door cars! TO me, that seems like such a waste.



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#8716117 - 07/06/16 12:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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You're making zero sense
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#8716135 - 07/06/16 12:38 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I should be picking up another 4door, but i don't want one, and i'm dead set on picking up an M3.
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#8716148 - 07/06/16 12:45 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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What was all that flash, non performance car , silly girl analogy talk about ?
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#8716191 - 07/06/16 01:09 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
What was all that flash, non performance car , silly girl analogy talk about ?


I can go the route of 335 with mods to hit the performance of an M3. Or i can get an M3. M3 is flashier than a 335, but with RB issues (which is why i'm asking if ideally i should get it with warranty from the stealership).

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#8716240 - 07/06/16 01:48 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Non car people can't tell the difference between an m3 and 335i.
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#8716335 - 07/06/16 02:52 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
I always wanted an M3.

WTF. i'm not made of money, i am looking for a used M3 (which is the top of my budget).

I've found 2010/11 E9X with 80-90km, Manual for $36k at BMW Dealerships. Compared this to a $1100Lease (x12months x 3 years = 39k) for S4 or CLA45.

Leasing is good for my business, but been on this no car payment thing for 2 years now and i'm kinda liking it.



What kind of business are you in that an m3 would make sense to have? Also, whether you're leasing or financing or paying in full, you can write the car off for tax purposes.

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#8716379 - 07/06/16 03:22 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: GimpCivic]
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Capital cost allowance.....
ever heard of it?
Its class 10 or 10.1 if you have more than one car and one to list them separately. You can write off 30% of the total as depreciation..


I'm no boring accountant doe, so PM risky business

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#8716435 - 07/06/16 04:35 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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what the fuckidy fuck. $52k w/53,000kms.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/M/BRAMPTON/Ontario/19_9273955_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=4_15_5

still kinda want.



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#8716488 - 07/06/16 05:46 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles


Woah...seems high. I paid less than that over 3 years ago and I bought it CPO'd from a BMW dealership.

It does, however, seem like it's harder to find clean examples of the e9X m3.

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#8716532 - 07/06/16 06:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: GimpCivic]
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Yup clean stock ones are hard to find, especially in 6spd. I really wanted '09+ but couldn't find a 6spd. Everything is autotragic. Finally found the one I have now, all stock, clean history and full service records. Forgot to mention. I was looking for 6mths till I found mine.
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#8717222 - 07/07/16 10:08 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
I can go the route of 335 with mods to hit the performance of an M3.

Not to sound all elitist, but I've driven both extensively and it's still not the same and numbers don't tell the whole story. A crack whore and a perfect unicorn can have the same dress size after all.

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#8717744 - 07/07/16 03:19 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 87ZCSi]
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#8718921 - 07/08/16 12:05 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 87ZCSi]
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If i can find a M3, i will purchase it via my Inc.

M3 will be fun car.

Looking for a client, daily driver. Maybe a
- 2014 Lexus IS350 F-sport
- Audi S4
- C300 Merc
- lexus Suv ( the new ones look pretty sweet)
- Used RDX
- Really depends who i know. But this car is easy to purchase.

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#8718990 - 07/08/16 12:37 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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I don't get it. First you said you wanted a coupe and not another 4 door since you have one already. You seem to be more confused than a bisexual lol
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#8719040 - 07/08/16 12:57 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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^ said already this post makes no sense. He's all over the place.
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#8719043 - 07/08/16 12:58 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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OP will probably end up with an Accord SEdan in the end anyway \:D
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#8719744 - 07/08/16 11:14 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
If i can find a M3, i will purchase it via my Inc.

M3 will be fun car.

Looking for a client, daily driver. Maybe a
- 2014 Lexus IS350 F-sport
- Audi S4
- C300 Merc
- lexus Suv ( the new ones look pretty sweet)
- Used RDX
- Really depends who i know. But this car is easy to purchase.


My 2016 C450 4Matic is available, it just sits in the garage collecting dust.

black w/ white interior
- premium package
- intelligent drive package
- amg leather
- first class tire and rim
- first class lease protection
- 48K residual (msrp: 72K)
- 14 months remaining
- currently $1194 after taxes/month
- under 5000 kms


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#8719967 - 07/09/16 07:05 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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What was the KM/year allowance and how many KM on it now?
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#8720310 - 07/09/16 05:06 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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24,000 kms until Sept 2017

I think right now has just under 5,000 kms

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#8721476 - 07/11/16 10:47 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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Yea i'm all over the place.

Originally i was looking for an M3. Was doing a lot of research and things led to another. Such as Coupe vs Sedan, price vs value..etc.

If i can find a M3 Coupe E9X at a decent price, i'll pick it up. Which still leaves me with a daily driver for winter and all around beater. So I'd have to pick up another car.

If i pick up a 2door, i'd have to pick up another car for a beater. (so 2 cars)
If i pick up a sick wicked nasty 4 door, i'd only need this car.

Two routes i can take.




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#8721486 - 07/11/16 10:56 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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why can't you winter drive the m3?
serious question.
e90s are pretty good in the snow.

i'd go sedan tho. cannot argue the practicality there.
if you go 2 door, then it should be a proper 2 door (since it would be a 2nd car), and thus, it should be a 2 seater.
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#8721583 - 07/11/16 12:03 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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I'd take over Axster's car, it has decent reviews, is basically brand new
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#8721596 - 07/11/16 12:08 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
I'd take over Axster's car, it has decent reviews, is basically brand new


But $1194 a month to lease. Is that how much cars are going for nowaday??

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#8721637 - 07/11/16 12:29 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: iamfob]
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It's a $70k car. So yes lol. My 335d on no money down was hitting $1k if leased.
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#8721647 - 07/11/16 12:38 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: iamfob]
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 Originally Posted By: iamfob
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
I'd take over Axster's car, it has decent reviews, is basically brand new


But $1194 a month to lease. Is that how much cars are going for nowaday??

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Have you priced out an entry level german car recently? 3 series, C series etc.

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#8721656 - 07/11/16 12:47 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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It's a $70k car. So yes lol. My 335d on no money down was hitting $1k if leased.


+1.
that is the going rate for a "standard" compact luxury car.
Per Choco and Hator, see any 335, s4, ats etc.

A lease special 320 or c300 will be half that, but those are bare bones 4 cyl cars with no power...vs something more upscale like a c450.
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#8721925 - 07/11/16 05:05 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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#8722044 - 07/11/16 08:33 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
2015 BMW m3 optioned out: $1738 monthly



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#8726675 - 07/16/16 12:20 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
I'd take over Axster's car, it has decent reviews, is basically brand new


Was looking into it, it would be purely for clients. Good car, decent reviews, if it was for my daily driver or one and only car, i'd pull the trigger.


 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
[quote=titty sprinkles]2015 BMW m3 optioned out: $1738 monthly


It's insane. That's why i'm looking for a 2010 version at $36k

For a client car, i found a 2013 335i Xdrive (bmw certified with 6y warranty) ... how are those?

edit: I've never financed or lease a new car. Some dealerships such as lexus offer a "security deposit down". Which you put down 5K, it brings down the lease payments and at the end of the term you can your 5k back. Is this a new lease product? I've never heard of it? is this across the board?

I get it, it's a smart business product, lets the dealership pay out their commissions and expenses while using that money to make money as it's on loan to them.


Edited by OracerO (07/16/16 12:24 PM)

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#8726781 - 07/16/16 05:03 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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You make no sense at all. Just buy a burnt sugar Corolla and be done with it.
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#8726787 - 07/16/16 05:11 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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just buy one nice car to drive your client and act as your daily driver, no?

Used A7 is good enough to drive clients around and good all year round car. Then buy a convertible and enjoy the summer months after work/weekends?
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#8726893 - 07/16/16 09:55 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: iamfob]
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For goodness sakes, it's 40k just buy it. What's with all the reasons. If you can afford the time to think about owning an m3, then you can afford to maintain it :p just remember it's an 80k car that you are buying for 40k. The running costs will still be high. $200 oil changes and $1k for front rotors are the norm. If you were seriously after a car to slay pussy, buy an early 996 for 25k and go live happily ever after. 911 >>>>>> m3 to the public eye.
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#8727676 - 07/18/16 07:43 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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For goodness sakes, it's 40k just buy it. What's with all the reasons. If you can afford the time to think about owning an m3, then you can afford to maintain it :p just remember it's an 80k car that you are buying for 40k. The running costs will still be high. $200 oil changes and $1k for front rotors are the norm. If you were seriously after a car to slay pussy, buy an early 996 for 25k and go live happily ever after. 911 >>>>>> m3 to the public eye.


lol
and +1

but i dunno man...this HULK ride from FnF3 is pretty badass and would make all dem pussies mad wet.

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#8729757 - 07/19/16 07:20 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/M/NORTH+YORK/Ontario/19_9469080_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=55_15_57


?? RB change time? how much would this cost?

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#8729888 - 07/19/16 09:14 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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$3k

No such thing as an interval for rb change.
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#8730246 - 07/20/16 09:57 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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Holy crap,

This is such a steal. It's almost suspect that this guy is selling his 2016 340i at this price.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/3+Series/...showcpo=ShowCPO

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#8730266 - 07/20/16 10:20 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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What a trainwreck of a thread.


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#8730357 - 07/20/16 11:28 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
Holy crap,

This is such a steal. It's almost suspect that this guy is selling his 2016 340i at this price.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/3+Series/...showcpo=ShowCPO


If this is legit, I'm buying it

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#8730379 - 07/20/16 11:38 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Worst thread of 2016

Fucking OP is like a confused transgender.
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#8730523 - 07/20/16 12:56 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
Holy crap,

This is such a steal. It's almost suspect that this guy is selling his 2016 340i at this price.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/3+Series/...showcpo=ShowCPO


If this is legit, I'm buying it


i bet u the seller is a rich chinar who does not want to bother waiting for a long sales cycle.
call them up and see. worth doing at that price XD
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#8731813 - 07/21/16 11:54 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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Did OP buy the Accord yet?
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#8731896 - 07/21/16 12:32 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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Worst thread of 2016

Fucking OP is like a confused transgender.


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#8756093 - 08/10/16 09:39 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Did OP buy Accord EX-L to chauffeur clients around yet?
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#8756794 - 08/11/16 12:32 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Dang, been pretty busy.

What is a good hosting site for photos? i can show the new milk.

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#8756870 - 08/11/16 01:19 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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MAKE WITH PIXXXX NAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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