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#86658 - 04/14/05 07:44 AM stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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as the title says...going to do some tests between the 3 manifolds tonight and post the results.

sometime this week im having a set of CTR and ITR cams dropped off for some dyno tests as well....probably wont be until next week when i can play around with those and the GSR cams.

i would assume sometime around 10pm expect to see the intake manifold results!
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#86659 - 04/14/05 12:12 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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Anxiously awaiting the results.....

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#86660 - 04/14/05 01:08 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Interesting. I'm just gonna say the JG should kick the other two's arse if you can rev higher than the 8200 redline.
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#86661 - 04/14/05 01:24 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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thats my guess too. even though the car is running awesome the peak high rpm horsepower numbers show some sort of a flow problem. hoping a intake mani will fix it. my money's on the jg even though i dont really like the apearance of it at all
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#86662 - 04/14/05 01:25 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Hey, you're all about custom stuff.

Sheet metal intake manifold.

Or better yet. Endyn "AIR" CF intake manifold. BALLER

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#86663 - 04/14/05 03:03 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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full-race makes an intake manifold now, its pretty sweet. Not sure if its just h-t hype though.
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#86664 - 04/14/05 05:47 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Whats the point of the c/f i/m's....?

Do they not conduct as much heat?

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#86665 - 04/14/05 06:15 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Quote:

Whats the point of the c/f i/m's....?

Do they not conduct as much heat?






Your not still on that fucking vafc ar eyou:?!?!?!? i just lclikced that damn linkandsfy and i'm so distorted icant even type correctly!!
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#86666 - 04/14/05 07:12 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Quote:

Quote:

Whats the point of the c/f i/m's....?

Do they not conduct as much heat?






Your not still on that fucking vafc ar eyou:?!?!?!? i just lclikced that damn linkandsfy and i'm so distorted icant even type correctly!!




Huh?

Why did you ask this in two seperate threads?

No...Hondata....S200B.

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#86667 - 04/14/05 07:20 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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reading the dates at the top of your posts > me

Jan 2 2004
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#86668 - 04/14/05 08:53 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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i have read some threads about how that OBX intake mani suckz real bad, how about if you put also and edelbrock mani on the testing.
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#86669 - 04/14/05 09:12 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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JG Edelbrock/victor x is the same thing right?
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#86670 - 04/14/05 09:52 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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this should b intersting, wat other mods does the test car have?
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#86671 - 04/15/05 12:01 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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ok...like always some personal shit came up and cramped my style on getting to this shit when i wanted to. its now 1am and i have made the first dyno pass.

OBX: this thing was such a peice of shit i just dropkicked it and decided it wasnt worth my time putting it on. NEXT

JG/EDELBROCK. first pass with the air fuel off the chart rich........apears to be a 30whp gain over the stock manifold. going to dick around with the air fuel and turn the boost up some. be back in a bit.
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#86672 - 04/15/05 12:05 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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ok leaning out the air fuel just gained another 23whp on the same boost level....im liking this!
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#86673 - 04/15/05 12:38 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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wideband just took a dump and i dont have the energy to change it....hopefully i can play with it a little bit tomarrow morning. im getting sick of thise POS dynojet 02 sensors.....they dont last for shit.
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#86674 - 04/15/05 12:49 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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Interesting comparisons. I'm still running the stock b16 IM. I want to know how much it's holding me back.

Go for it, T-charged!!!
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#86675 - 04/15/05 09:04 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Sick numbers.

What are you revving to? Ported head?

Man, I'd love to throw some valvetrain on my setup. and spin 9500 on boost (on a built block of course)

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#86676 - 04/15/05 11:46 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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stock b16 head with springs and retainers......i reved it to 9500 last year...but this year since i finished the car 20 min before i took it to the track i ran the 10.75's only reving to 8 grand. it drives me nuts i dont have time to work on my car!
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#86677 - 04/15/05 12:26 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Good post..yeah..back in the day..we tested the stock B16 vs the Venom IM. And gained 20-30whp on same boost level 9-13psi.
Im just too broke and lazy to remove the stock one..lol.
There are several more options now.
Good post bro!
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#86678 - 04/15/05 12:32 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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What about the skunk2 manifold. Test that one please?
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#86679 - 04/15/05 12:34 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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interesting....
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#86680 - 04/15/05 05:07 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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well the skunk 2/type R manifold is clearly for an all motor application, so right off the bat i'd say its not an ideal manifold for a forced induction car.

just made a few more pass's.....and beleive it or not....with no changes in timing.....and the same target air/fuel ratio......reving to the same RPM (8 grand) i saw a SEVENTY horsepower increase.

off to the track now to see what it does there. i'll post back later tonight!
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#86681 - 04/15/05 05:21 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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well the skunk 2/type R manifold is clearly for an all motor application, so right off the bat i'd say its not an ideal manifold for a forced induction car.

just made a few more pass's.....and beleive it or not....with no changes in timing.....and the same target air/fuel ratio......reving to the same RPM (8 grand) i saw a SEVENTY horsepower increase.

off to the track now to see what it does there. i'll post back later tonight!




Omg.....[prices one]

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#86682 - 04/15/05 06:13 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonight..
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Anybody want to buy a type r manifold!!!!!


Needs to order a jg one!!!
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#86683 - 04/19/05 08:36 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Update:

How did your car run with the added 70hp.....?

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#86684 - 04/19/05 09:20 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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lol
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#86685 - 04/19/05 10:26 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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we will have to find out this weekend. last friday night i went to the local ghetto track. they did Z E R O track prep...i mean zero as in they didnt even put down water in the burn out box. in 3rd gear i couldnt even keep the car straight. it literally spun ALL the way down the track. i made 2 pass's got pissed off and left. making hotel arangments as we speak for the nopi event in dinwittie (sp)
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#86686 - 04/19/05 03:12 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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Intersted......

So you would recommend the Victor X over a sheet metal intake?

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#86687 - 04/19/05 03:36 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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**whispers if this manifold is really the roxor, think how poorly the edelbrock kit is running
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#86688 - 04/19/05 04:48 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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honestly i dont like the apearance of the JG manifold at all. i have a golden eagle manifold on my h22 which i like a whole lot more but i havnt done any before/after type of stuff with that. one of these days when i get some time im going to make a manifold and play with some differnt idea's....i just dotn even have time to change my oil right now. i honestly wish i had a better alternative for the JG manifold.....i dont like it very much...however it seems to perform great. a lot of people who cares if it looks good as long as its fast....but i kinda take pride in my engine bay looking good too.
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#86689 - 04/20/05 12:32 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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honestly i dont like the apearance of the JG manifold at all. i have a golden eagle manifold on my h22 which i like a whole lot more but i havnt done any before/after type of stuff with that. one of these days when i get some time im going to make a manifold and play with some differnt idea's....i just dotn even have time to change my oil right now. i honestly wish i had a better alternative for the JG manifold.....i dont like it very much...however it seems to perform great. a lot of people who cares if it looks good as long as its fast....but i kinda take pride in my engine bay looking good too.




stuff that old log in my enigne bay. If you don't like it and all
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#86690 - 04/21/05 10:00 PM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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What was A/F specifically under boost to make these gains? What about timing throughout the load points? Good stuff.
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#86691 - 04/22/05 07:28 AM Re: stock b16 vs. obx vs. JG intake manifold dyno test tonig
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air fuel was around 11.3-11.6 with both manifolds. timing was the same with both manifolds as well. around 18 degree's at peak torque 22-23 degree's with race gas. when i was originally tuning on the stock manifold i was seing about 30whp at each half degree of timing added after peak torque.
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