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#8639024 - 04/27/16 08:31 PM Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy
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here you go risky. i'm not making this sh!t up.

The severity of the province’s electricity overbuild is most evident in the province’s wholesale electricity market. Last month, for example, there were more than 200 hours where the average price of wholesale power was negative. Because Ontario often sells its power to neighbouring states and provinces at the wholesale rate, Ontarians are paying customers outside the province to import the province’s excess power.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-com...icity-customers


Edited by zaius (04/27/16 08:32 PM)
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#8639300 - 04/28/16 07:20 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: zaius]
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I want to murder someone, any suggestions?
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#8639320 - 04/28/16 07:31 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: LNXGUY]
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Except this time, rather than pointing the finger at Ontario Hydro engineers and executives who overstated future demand and their ability to contain costs on megaprojects, the fault lies almost completely with the province and the energy agencies now responsible for almost all power decision-making.


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Unfortunately, the track record of cost overruns on nuclear projects is extensive and well-documented, with every single one in Ontario going significantly over budget (on average more than double). OPG has added a 15 per cent – or $1.7 billion – “contingency” amount in the $12.8 billion cost estimate. But a more realistic figure would be anywhere between a 50 per cent contingency fund of $5.5 billion, or even a 100 per cent contingency fund of $11.1 billion.



lol, I'd love to see a proper exec team from industry go through hydro one and manage these, what a joke.

What can we do? The question no one can answer.

Is there a point to care/be outraged? Nothing can be done, just bend over I guess.

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#8639321 - 04/28/16 07:33 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Risky Business]
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Hire Tamils for protesting?
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#8639331 - 04/28/16 07:39 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: LNXGUY]
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That will result in a Tamil protest payback charge on your hydro bill.
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#8639336 - 04/28/16 07:42 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Risky Business]
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What a repost......
http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/8495023

Gotta be as fast as a black man running away from cops who want to card him

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#8639471 - 04/28/16 09:28 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
I want to murder someone, any suggestions?


Wynne.

get a sniper rifle!
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#8639484 - 04/28/16 09:35 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Just A Troll]
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imo, the entire government needs to go..
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#8639503 - 04/28/16 09:43 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: phoenixrage]
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I'm good for 300 yrds with my .270. No silencer though
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#8639556 - 04/28/16 10:01 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: LNXGUY]
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sometimes I wish I had one of these... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVRRiWFvfqw

put on a trailer, load it to the max with gravel for more weight.. and just plow through everything... traffic, queens park... everything!
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#8639565 - 04/28/16 10:06 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: phoenixrage]
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#8639964 - 04/28/16 01:16 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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They really need a scientific person in power that knows how to speak to the people.

I vote for Bill Nye!

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#8640053 - 04/28/16 01:53 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Wildout]
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The direction is coming from the Ministry of Energy telling the IESO aka the former OPA the government's mandate.
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#8640071 - 04/28/16 02:01 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Wildout]
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Nah.. neil degrasse tyson FTW
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#8640217 - 04/28/16 03:01 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: phoenixrage]
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what the flying fuck. it's because canadians are too nice to do anything about it. this kind of fuckery wouldn't stand in other countries.
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#8640240 - 04/28/16 03:06 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Now you've done it.


Adds "Canadians are too nice* charge line item under "Tamil protest payback charge" /wynne

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#8640263 - 04/28/16 03:13 PM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
what the flying fuck. it's because canadians are too nice to do anything about it. this kind of fuckery wouldn't stand in other countries.


Canadians? More like Stupid people exists in Toronto to allow this shite to happen aka voting them in majority - AGAIN. This shite would not fly outside of the GTA - especially in BC.
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#8641196 - 04/29/16 09:57 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: Wildout]
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They really need a scientific person in power that knows how to speak to the people.

I vote for Bill Nye!


We need a pragmatist! Someone who comes up with practical solutions for the good of the entire province.
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#8641280 - 04/29/16 10:59 AM Re: Ontario's Negative Pricing for Energy [Re: phoenixrage]
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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
Nah.. neil degrasse tyson FTW


Actually that's an even better idea

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