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#8548124 - 02/09/16 09:28 AM Is GTA turning into Detroit?
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#8548251 - 02/09/16 11:13 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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are you still living in your parents basement?

it's been going on for the past few years...but it's getting more and more brazen recently.

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#8548262 - 02/09/16 11:19 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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#8548343 - 02/09/16 12:05 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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And most of it is not the gangbanger shit at Jane and Finch, Malvern, James town etc
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#8548356 - 02/09/16 12:07 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Maybe if the GTA turns into detroit, I can actually afford to own a home.
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#8548374 - 02/09/16 12:16 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: phoenixrage]
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warm winter brings out all the riffraff.

and +1 for not being in the 'hoods' anymore...it's anywhere these days. mind you those areas you can usually see it's more immigrant type fam's/kids causing shit. tho you get the random crazy white folks here and there.
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#8548392 - 02/09/16 12:27 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Year to date

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2014 -18
2015 - 27
2016 -43

Death
2014 -2
2015 - 2
2016 -8

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/statistics/ytd_stats.php
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#8548570 - 02/09/16 02:35 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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lol no

i was in windsor visiting someone last weekend, we were down town and this black chick from detroit comes up to us "eh ya'll now wea deh boom boom room be at?" (there really is a club there called the boom boom room)


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#8548593 - 02/09/16 02:55 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Well, I know it's not Detroit bad, still feel safe in TO.
I actually saw a pimp at the Detroit autoshow number of years ago.
A black guy with a fur coat, pimp hat, and the trademark cane walking around. lol
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#8548622 - 02/09/16 03:15 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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I actually saw a pimp at the Detroit autoshow number of years ago.A black guy with a fur coat, pimp hat, and the trademark cane walking around. lol



That was ChocoCanuck picking up some car parts from his US mailbox.
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#8548645 - 02/09/16 03:26 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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#8548694 - 02/09/16 03:50 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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#8548704 - 02/09/16 03:52 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: phoenixrage]
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i had 2 shootings and 1 stabbing near my residence ever since i moved here T_T
and it ain't even near jane and finch
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#8549305 - 02/10/16 08:13 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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 Originally Posted By: porschetr
Well, I know it's not Detroit bad, still feel safe in TO.
I actually saw a pimp at the Detroit autoshow number of years ago.
A black guy with a fur coat, pimp hat, and the trademark cane walking around. lol



eaton center pimp always be walkin.
actually nice guy if you talk to him.

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#8549312 - 02/10/16 08:23 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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what sucks is it seems we're heading the way of a "big american style city" vs. that of a more a "european style city" so to speak, think zurich/geneva/london/paris...well london and paris not so much anymore since they're going to shit as it is . even separating ourselves compared to even just montreal/quebec city...

looks like that's only a pipe dream now the way things are going.
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#8550512 - 02/10/16 07:26 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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ITT, people who have not been to downtown Detroit.
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#8625666 - 04/17/16 11:09 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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Year to date

Shootings
2014 -18
2015 - 27
2016 -43

Death
2014 -2
2015 - 2
2016 -8

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/statistics/ytd_stats.php


Shootings
2014 -46
2015 -59
2016 -94

Death
2014 -8
2015 - 6
2016 -13

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/statistics/ytd_stats.php

Still climbing.
Seems like CP24 is covered with shooting and stabbing news these days.

I got a message a couple of days ago informing that one of my friends' bro was shot to death over an argument. He was 28. \:\(
Going to the visitation next week.

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#8625684 - 04/17/16 11:44 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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Don't these spikes correlate with prison sentences ending ? Next yr they will arrest a bunch. Things will go back to normal for another 5 or so yrs...then it will happen again.
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#8625689 - 04/17/16 12:09 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Don't these spikes correlate with prison sentences ending ? Next yr they will arrest a bunch. Things will go back to normal for another 5 or so yrs...then it will happen again.


Yup there is a correlation for sure. Fucking scums.
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#8625690 - 04/17/16 12:17 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Hatorade]
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downtown Detroit is probably safer than downtown toronto
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#8626690 - 04/18/16 01:51 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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a cop buddy of mine told me that there will probably be a higher amount of gun crimes and crimes in general this year due the removal of the carding rule... he claims that prevented a lot of crime.
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#8626694 - 04/18/16 01:56 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: snowman888]
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a cop buddy of mine told me that there will probably be a higher amount of gun crimes and crimes in general this year due the removal of the carding rule... he claims that prevented a lot of crime.


Choco after reading that post -

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#8626774 - 04/18/16 02:53 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: c2k]
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#8626790 - 04/18/16 03:04 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: snowman888
a cop buddy of mine told me that there will probably be a higher amount of gun crimes and crimes in general this year due the removal of the carding rule... he claims that prevented a lot of crime.

Choco after reading that post -


Fuck that has me triggered

Carding smh

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#8632396 - 04/22/16 07:48 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Wildout]
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OP is so right, i watch the news almost nightly and just SMH
it's becoming fucking ridic. - the more and more we turn to an american style city the more i wanna fukcing leave.
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#8632401 - 04/22/16 07:51 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: snowman888]
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a cop buddy of mine told me that there will probably be a higher amount of gun crimes and crimes in general this year due the removal of the carding rule... he claims that prevented a lot of crime.

That cop can go eat a dick

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#8632755 - 04/22/16 11:06 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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That cop can go eat a dick[/quote]

He happens to be gay so your low brow attempt to insult him there failed, but you're probably accustomed to failing in life if derogatory gay comments is your default.

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#8633724 - 04/23/16 06:14 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: snowman888]
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I don't know how much carding reduces crime. People who want to do bad violent shit will go do bad violent shit. Might help in catching them afterwards doe.

Carding is like RIDE stops, at least in theory. Supposed to be arbitrary, and maybe a slight compromise of individual rights for the greater public good. The issue is how we interpret "arbitrary". The optics of going into club district to setup RIDE is less offensive than going into high crime neighborhoods and carding black men. We all understand that driving home hammered is a choice, being born black and living in a rough neighborhood isn't.
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#8633774 - 04/23/16 08:55 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: 4Three]
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Walking around like blown Midas suspension wearing baggy pants almost down to the knee is a choice.

Deserved to be carded regardless what race they are





Don't deserve to be carded


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#8633993 - 04/23/16 03:44 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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Personally, I'd never dress like that, but it's more than likely that in some pockets, dressing like that is the only way to fit in. Dressing differently might get you jumped.

The reality is that profiling is going to happen. It's also reality that people will be offended by that profiling.
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#8634055 - 04/23/16 05:23 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: 4Three]
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Personally, I'd never dress like that, but it's more than likely that in some pockets, dressing like that is the only way to fit in. Dressing differently might get you jumped.
The reality is that profiling is going to happen. It's also reality that people will be offended by that profiling.


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#8634164 - 04/23/16 07:22 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Wildout]
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All the non black people in this thread can piss off, seriously, none of you know what its like to be black and harassed by the police regardless of how you dress, how affluent you are or what you drive or where you live.

Read this

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/racean..._high_rate.html

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“It doesn’t matter what type of neighbourhood you live in or what type of neighbourhood you’re travelling through, if you are black you are much more likely to attract the attention of the police and therefore have a contact card filled out,” says University of Toronto criminologist Scot Wortley, who reviewed the Star analysis.



http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2012...han_whites.html

All it means is that people like me absolutely do not trust the police, and teach my kids the same, the police will fuck you over because of the colour of your skin.


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#8634479 - 04/24/16 09:23 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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And with that thinking there will never be progression. I work in rexdale and work with a lot of black people. They barely complain about the police...

What they are quick at jump on is pulling the race card, including black on black hate. How ironic.
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#8634491 - 04/24/16 09:44 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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All the non black people in this thread can piss off, seriously, none of you know what its like to be black and harassed by the police regardless of how you dress, how affluent you are or what you drive or where you live.

Read this

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/racean..._high_rate.html

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“It doesn’t matter what type of neighbourhood you live in or what type of neighbourhood you’re travelling through, if you are black you are much more likely to attract the attention of the police and therefore have a contact card filled out,” says University of Toronto criminologist Scot Wortley, who reviewed the Star analysis.



http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2012...han_whites.html

All it means is that people like me absolutely do not trust the police, and teach my kids the same, the police will fuck you over because of the colour of your skin.



Hasn't been pulled over or had any interaction with police for over a decade. Way to prove your point.

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#8634534 - 04/24/16 11:17 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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@Risky, Don't make assumptions, you'd be wrong. Ask Wildout about his experiences driving through Whitby on his way home.

@hatorade, when you live in Malton or Malvern for a few years, let me know. You can talk about hearsay, I'm talking about my own interactions first hand. LMAO at working with black people in rexdale.

You speak of progress? Thats like telling an abused wife its okay if you get beaten....
The only progress is when police interact with the general black population the same they do as with whites. If they want to concentrate on high crime areas, go ahead. But there is simply no reason for the carding that they do at the rate that they do, in all areas.

@porscheter, You can dress however you want, you will still be harrased by the police. I've been in a suit in my X5 coming home from work and still be stopped for no reason.

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#8634575 - 04/24/16 12:20 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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This isn't about wildout, it's about no one ever bothering you but you we still cry about it.
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#8634647 - 04/24/16 02:09 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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@Risky, Don't make assumptions, you'd be wrong. Ask Wildout about his experiences driving through Whitby on his way home.
@hatorade, when you live in Malton or Malvern for a few years, let me know. You can talk about hearsay, I'm talking about my own interactions first hand. LMAO at working with black people in rexdale.
You speak of progress? Thats like telling an abused wife its okay if you get beaten....
The only progress is when police interact with the general black population the same they do as with whites. If they want to concentrate on high crime areas, go ahead. But there is simply no reason for the carding that they do at the rate that they do, in all areas.
@porscheter, You can dress however you want, you will still be harrased by the police. I've been in a suit in my X5 coming home from work and still be stopped for no reason.


Bro the blacks I work with are legit black... Know what I'm saying? They can show you a thing or 2 what black is lol

Btw you have no point even with your own so called experiences. I have never been pulled over, that is until I tinted the EP3 and then I started to get stopped randomly. Fuck guess I was being targeted due to my skin colour since they are able to see through the tint right?

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#8634667 - 04/24/16 02:45 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Hatorade]
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I specifically didn't tint the front of the X5, so cops have no excuse for saying they can't see inside. What is legit black? I take it you mean poor? My wife grew up in Rexdale, I hung out there when we were dating (she already owned a home in Rexdale). She has a six figure salary and a defined benefit pension. I'm can assure you she's black, and just as ambitious as me.

You are thinking like the cops. Black =/= poor, drug dealing criminals. Yet that is how the police treat all of us. My cousin grew up on Dawes Road in an apartment, but worked his way up. (sound familar Risky)? Bought a house for his mom and paid it off in 5 years. Clears half a mill a year. Can't even go to the basketball court at Kennedy and Lawrence to shoot some hoops without getting pulled over in his benz when leaving. Why? Black driving a benz, must be drug dealer.

I have lived in the ghetto, walking past the old Mileys at Malvern and Sheppard where there was a shooting on my way to school. Kept my nose clean and didn't get involved in the wrong crowd. Yet when friends and I rented a car and returned it to rental agency, at Kennedy and Sheppard, we get pulled over in the parking lot to be told the car looks expensive and all our identification asked for. Once again, black in an expensive car, we must be drug dealers. Fuck the police.

I have already told my kids that any interaction with the police will be negative. They will prejudge you because you are black.

Its not even just the police, go the petro Canada at Liverpool and Kingston, white dude starts to fill up his bmw at the pump right next to mine. I had my Subaru outback. Woman comes on the speaker saying I have to prepay. WTF? Dude next to me doesn't have to prepay, but I do? You think I am going to gas and dash simply because I am black?

I came back the next day with my BMW after work and told her to eat a dick with her judgemental racist self. Wrote the the station owner a nasty letter too.

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#8634765 - 04/24/16 05:32 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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^ good example of why black people can't move forward

also tl:dr

By your logic I should be getting pulled over all the time because of tinted windows. How do they know the race of the driver? in before you tell me they pull up name on system and THAT's the deciding factor. My name should technically get me plenty pulled over because assumed mob/organized crime.

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#8634776 - 04/24/16 05:49 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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Black people can't move forward because no matter how squeaky clean their record is, no matter how successful they are, cops still treat them like a drug dealing gang banger from Jane and Finch. Its that simple.
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#8634787 - 04/24/16 06:37 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Tell your black buddies to stop stealing and dealing drugs.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.

I am sorry you get harassed by cops because the colour of your skin. But as long as a small population of blacks continue to contribute major part of the crime levels in the city, the racism won't go away.

If I had 12 mixed apples and 2 out of 3 Green apples had warms, you bet I am gonna take a look at the Green apple more closely before taking a bite.
I don't want to tell you how to raise your kids, but raising them as cop haters won't solve anything.
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#8634793 - 04/24/16 06:49 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: porschetr]
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What buddies would that be? The average HHI in my hood is 186k


So we should stop all asians because they are the ones that get busted for dealing Marijuana viets, and all whites, because they are the serial killers. Stereotypes exist, but they are not all policed the same.

The majority of anytime of crime is committed by whites, simply because there are more of them. You don't see them getting stopped as often do you?


Look at this map

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/knownt...ifferences.html

GNSP if you are black and living in an affluent area.

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#8634810 - 04/24/16 07:25 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Black people can't move forward because no matter how squeaky clean their record is, no matter how successful they are, cops still treat them like a drug dealing gang banger from Jane and Finch. Its that simple.


You keep preaching this shit, but no one ever hassles you and you do just fine. How can anyone possibly take you seriously?

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#8634881 - 04/24/16 09:31 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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#8635942 - 04/25/16 05:00 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Denis Si]
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sorry but i feelz where wayne is coming from

growing up in a predominantly white neighbourhood you get treated a different way. i'm not one to pull the race card but black people or anyone that's colored do get treated differently by the general public and police are no different since they are members of the same society. you mean to tell me that just because someone is a cop that their thinking is all of a sudden different?

i got profiled recently. hard. did i get pissed about it? nope. i do my hardest to keep clean and have nothing to worry about but the fact of the matter is that it does happen. when i think about it, i kinda cheeses me (that's why i never posted about it) but at the same time, it's always going to be around; i can't fault wayne for preparing his daughters for something that has obviously been aparant in his life and most likely theirs too.
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#8636011 - 04/25/16 06:21 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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i can't fault wayne for preparing his daughters for something that has obviously been aparant in his life and most likely theirs too.


And how is that going to help, being part of a vicious cycle. With this line of thinking there will never be change.
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#8636128 - 04/25/16 07:43 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Hatorade]
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Just remembered the day when we were checked out by the cops.

3 of us were chilling in the car at 3 am ish after coming from downtown or something.
We were parked in front of my driveway. Then noticed a cruiser approaching us and it popped the cherries. When they got closer, I rolled down the window and told him I lived there.
Can't remember if I showed my ID or not.


Had it been 3 black guys, one of them having the mentality of Wayne, they would have waved the black card and made the situation nothing to a major beat down followed by strip search.
I was actually happy that the cops checked is out.
I had 0 issues proving that I lived there and was thankful they were patrolling the area.

It was when I lived near Weaton and 7.
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#8636152 - 04/25/16 07:55 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
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i can't fault wayne for preparing his daughters for something that has obviously been aparant in his life and most likely theirs too.


And how is that going to help, being part of a vicious cycle. With this line of thinking there will never be change.


it's going to help because his daughters may be better well prepared to handle a discriminatory situation. being educated and prepared on how to handle a possible situation is better than ignorance.

to quote wayne speaking to a cop: "education is key" (one time wayne and I were singled out, out of about 20 cars)


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#8636411 - 04/26/16 08:20 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I recognize that Wayne probably had a lot of bad interactions with police, and I wouldn't doubt that race could've been a factor. I wonder if he tried at all to turn the interaction in a positive direction. I've been pulled over for dumb shit and been accused of certain things but I sucked up my pride, explained myself in a non adversarial manner and -I- de-escalated the interaction.

Also I understand his apprehension towards police, and he has his right to guide/teach his kids however he wants. But imagine if someone were to have a couple bad interactions with black people and then teach their kids that all black people are out to get them. That's just going to perpetuate the problem. Maybe some of those kids ended up as police ...

Bottom line, I don't think Wayne is wrong to feel so strongly, but at some point we as individuals need to look for a solution rather than settling to be a victim.
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#8636481 - 04/26/16 09:15 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

I have already told my kids that any interaction with the police will be negative. They will prejudge you because you are black.


Here's a question for you - what if the cop is black? Will the black cop prejudge you automatically because you are black?
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#8636513 - 04/26/16 09:36 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: c2k]
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I'm not making it out to be a white thing. I'm saying its a cop thing. Given the statistics, its clear that they see anyone with black skin as a potential criminal who needs to be documented. That process is disrespectful, demeaning and a clear violation of charter rights.

Cop can be blue (pun intended) and it will be the same. Its an "us vs them" mentality.

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#8636543 - 04/26/16 10:01 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Even I've had the you match a description shit pulled on me. More than once.


And whites are a minority in most gta hoods these days.
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#8636547 - 04/26/16 10:09 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I'm not making it out to be a white thing. I'm saying its a cop thing. Given the statistics, its clear that they see anyone with black skin as a potential criminal who needs to be documented. That process is disrespectful, demeaning and a clear violation of charter rights.

Cop can be blue (pun intended) and it will be the same. Its an "us vs them" mentality.


Cops are human, the fact that you think a person looking at you is different than a cop looking at you in the exact same circumstance (black guy driving x5) makes you more prejudice than them lol

I am a minority, you don't see me crying.

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#8636549 - 04/26/16 10:11 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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I am a minority, you don't see me crying.




So you think that its cool that cops have stopped enough black youth and carded them to represent every single black person in Toronto. Because they are just criminals waiting to happen, amirite?

Go read this for the average black person interaction with police

http://torontolife.com/city/life/skin-im-ive-interrogated-police-50-times-im-black/

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#8636552 - 04/26/16 10:13 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Tinted windows, minority, still living the dream.

Show me evidence where you were carded and/or harassed and we can have a discussion, you don't get to pull the race card because some thugs (allow 5% error rate of innocents) were carded and cry wolf. GTFO with this shit.

You bitch more about carding/harassment than people who actually live that every day, you haven't even made eye contact with a cop in over a decade, but all of the sudden are parroting around like you are about to start a subsect of BLM.

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#8636561 - 04/26/16 10:17 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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#8636565 - 04/26/16 10:20 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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I'm not going to go into on this board, I have nothing to prove to you Risky There are people on here like Titty who have been with me when it has happened. Suffice it to say its is exactly the same experience as the writer in the Toronto life article I posted.
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#8636572 - 04/26/16 10:22 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Nah, you are a primadonna that chooses to ignore behaviour/signs leading to cop harassment and immediately pull the race card. IMMEDIATELY AND ALWAYS, keep doing that and no one will give a shit what you have to say and you can continue living that victim life.

I've been pulled over plenty, can't say I've been harassed, but I also don't sit there with a chip on my shoulder when a cop is power tripping. It's a battle you can't win, let them rage out and move on (right or wrong)...but you can't it always has to be about race. You are a living example that no one harasses you, which makes your argument completely worthless.

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#8636578 - 04/26/16 10:25 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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Right, because every black person who has told you the exact samething are all lying. Because you've experienced the same struggle. I have told you before, ask Wildout, he's another black person in this forum. The exact same things have happened to him, repeatedly pulled over while driving home with zero traffic violations, I guess he's lying too.

Oh look, another court case tossed because of racial profiling

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/0...-road-stop.html


Maybe this guy is lying too

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/knowntop...topping_me.html

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#8636587 - 04/26/16 10:34 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Why are you speaking for Wildout, you continue with this anecdotal evidence...

Show me your last carding ticket, I will accept your wife and children's carding tickets as well (crickets galore am I right) !!! More anecdotal evidence from randoms inbound.

So you keep rattling away at that keyboard, but you've never EVER been carded, you are NOT harassed by police, and don't have a target on your back.

How convenient that you also have a clean record, university education, hold a job, have a family, etc. How is all of this possible man, you are black after all, you should be dead already or in jail, HOW WAS THIS ALL POSSIBLE, EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU!!!


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#8636616 - 04/26/16 10:47 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

Did you see this vid? White people out of anyone should be outraged immediately.

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#8636667 - 04/26/16 11:01 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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You don't get a carding ticket for some not so random stop where cops try to go on a fishing expedition to see if you have drugs, or guns, or something else they can nail your ass to the wall for. I have a few of those stops in the last few years, like I said, I'm not going into them here.

Carding tickets are a new thing within the last year where the cops have been forced to give a receipt for their interaction.

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#8636674 - 04/26/16 11:04 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

Did you see this vid? White people out of anyone should be outraged immediately.

Ed tore the assertions in that video apart

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/8626397/fpart/1

but hey, trololololo amirite

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#8636686 - 04/26/16 11:09 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

Did you see this vid? White people out of anyone should be outraged immediately.

Ed tore the assertions in that video apart

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/8626397/fpart/1

but hey, trololololo amirite


You mean the "denchers" guy? not reading

Waiting here for your pull over stories tho...

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#8636732 - 04/26/16 11:31 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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Not posting them here. Last time I posted about it in 2010 when I still had the M3 and got pulled over for making a legal move (getting off the highway and getting back on at Neilson road), all the haters jumped in. Guess what I won that case easily.

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
not reading

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Seems to be common with you....

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#8636778 - 04/26/16 11:56 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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#8636784 - 04/26/16 11:59 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Not posting them here. Last time I posted about it in 2010 when I still had the M3 and got pulled over for making a legal move (getting off the highway and getting back on at Neilson road), all the haters jumped in. Guess what I won that case easily.

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
not reading

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Seems to be common with you....


For starters I am not reading the diatribe of someone who spells dentures as "denchers". Secondly, modded yellow M3 in scarborough + pulled over = Could've been anyone here, to be expected regardless of race.

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#8636841 - 04/26/16 12:40 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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So getting pulled over in a stock benz without tinted windows, just after leaving a basketball court, whats the excuse for that one?
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#8636847 - 04/26/16 12:45 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Wayne, have you joined the "Black lives matter" protesters?
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#8637024 - 04/26/16 02:18 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Just A Troll]
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Nope, thats not my fight. We are not the US with institutionalized racism. You can get ahead here. My fight the police lumping all blacks in with the small percentage who are gang bangers and drug dealers. When people like desmond cole, or myself get hassled because of police interactions with the Jane and Finch, or Malver, or Jungle, or former regent park crew, its complete BS.


BLM will try to defend indefensible actions by thugs. You absolutely lose credibility against police injustice when you pick the wrong people to support.

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#8637102 - 04/26/16 03:00 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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So getting pulled over in a stock benz without tinted windows, just after leaving a basketball court, whats the excuse for that one?




More anecdotal one sided stories...was I there, did I see what the cop saw? Why do people get pulled over all the time? Maybe, JUST maybe there was a traffic violation?

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#8637114 - 04/26/16 03:07 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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I was there. Nothing anecdotal about it. Do you even know what anecdotal means? I think the word you are looking for is hearsay....

The same way a cop standing at the top of the ramp pulled me over, nothing to do with a modded M3, I didn't have a loud exhaust or any of that ricer BS.

Like I told you, I will get pulled over for no traffic violation, not get a ticket, just get my ID and insurance, and my information run. Thats some BS.

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#8637115 - 04/26/16 03:08 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I'm sure we have all had that.

Two examples of that over 20 yrs is racism ?
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#8637117 - 04/26/16 03:10 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I'm sure we have all had that.

Two examples of that over 20 yrs is racism ?

Are you my priest, you want me to list all of them for you?

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#8637146 - 04/26/16 03:28 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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You are going to have a miserable life with your view of the world around you.

Lives in the most multicultural city in the world, white people are a minority, feels targeted by police.

LOL

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#8637240 - 04/26/16 04:20 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Curious Wayne, on the occasions where you got pulled over but not issued a ticket, did they ever explain to you why you were pulled over?
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#8637264 - 04/26/16 04:51 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: 4Three]
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On one occasion, I was told they were just conducting checks. On others, just given DL and insurance back.

As I told Vas, the last traffic ticket that I got was in 2010 for the exit/entrance, I fought that and won it. Prior to that I was busted for speeding on avenue road, something like 72 in a 50. I paid that ticket in 2007.

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#8637290 - 04/26/16 05:33 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: snowman888]
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 Originally Posted By: snowman888


He happens to be gay so your low brow attempt to insult him there failed, but you're probably accustomed to failing in life if derogatory gay comments is your default.
You think my comment was an anti gay comment? Lol, it's it's a figure of speech, if it offends you, I'll change it to go die in fire then. Or go shoot himself like a bunch of these so called tough guys have been doing recently claiming PTSD

Again I go back to G20. Not one cop gave up the rogue cops who beat Adam nobody. Not one. No love lost for the police who are supposed to be enforcing the law, but break it without fear from the toothless SIU.

Why jeopardize a lucrative career/pension by doing something like upholding the law right? Just following orders from the likes of this guy

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/0...20-arrests.html

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#8637384 - 04/26/16 06:38 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
I was there. Nothing anecdotal about it. Do you even know what anecdotal means? I think the word you are looking for is hearsay....
The same way a cop standing at the top of the ramp pulled me over, nothing to do with a modded M3, I didn't have a loud exhaust or any of that ricer BS.
Like I told you, I will get pulled over for no traffic violation, not get a ticket, just get my ID and insurance, and my information run. Thats some BS.


Oh shit. Same thing has happened to me before too. Guess I'm black too.
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#8637387 - 04/26/16 06:39 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
You are going to have a miserable life with your view of the world around you.
Lives in the most multicultural city in the world, white people are a minority, feels targeted by police.
LOL


It's the whole me against the world mentality...
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#8637389 - 04/26/16 06:40 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Hatorade]
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A Hamiltn City Councillor was carded here in Hamilton recently and hes making a big stink about it.

Above the law or race card?
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6515459-councillor-says-he-was-carded-by-hamilton-police/

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#8637487 - 04/26/16 08:29 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: The Postman]
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http://www.agpllp.ca/carding-not-just-a-toronto-problem/

This is my point exactly. Vas will not read, because he would much rather rely on his anecdotal evidence

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#8637534 - 04/26/16 09:22 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Still waiting on your carding receipt(s)...since its such a widespread problem.
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#8637669 - 04/27/16 06:09 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Still waiting on your carding receipt(s)...since its such a widespread problem.


Yup, you didn't read. How does it work, dat privilege

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#8637672 - 04/27/16 06:23 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Still crying about issues that don't affect you, how does hypocrisy work?
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#8637691 - 04/27/16 07:11 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Still crying about issues that don't affect you, how does hypocrisy work?
Has no black friends, but considers himself an expert on issues affecting black people....
When did you become Euphoric

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#8637695 - 04/27/16 07:20 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Has never been carded, assumes all 5 interactions with police over his lifetime were due to race, self proclaimed expert on issues affecting the black community, while having zero involvement in said community.

I'd love to have an open discussion about issues affecting blacks, that discussion can't happen with you, you aren't bringing anything to the table. I might as well discuss these issues with another white person because that's the level of insight you provide.

As far as black friends, you aside, none of them want to be friends with a minority like me.

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#8637708 - 04/27/16 07:38 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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Look in the mirror dude, i know you wish you were black, but the mirror ain't lying
Dat white privilege....

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#8637796 - 04/27/16 08:44 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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So bc Im a minority, that would explain why I get carded all the time. Those darn sign language are often mistaken as gang signs.
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#8638040 - 04/27/16 11:00 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: c2k]
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http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/0...carded-him.html

Yup, just another black person not getting carded by the police

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#8638108 - 04/27/16 11:23 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Actually Wayne is correct about Police and racism! There is racism and there will always be. The Police treat black people a lot different than whites.

My only problem with Wayne is this: Wayne thinks that because he's successful and in the upper middle class that he doesn't have to put up with this racism shit. Wayne's motives are very selfish. To me it comes off as a rich guy who wants preferential treatment just because of the size of his bank account.

That just my opinion from reading the back and forth between him and risky in this thread.
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#8638188 - 04/27/16 11:48 AM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Just A Troll]
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hmm, I have always looked at is as crime being an economic problem. Blacks in lower income neighbourhoods are targeted because thats where there is greater propensity for crime.

So what you are saying is police are just racist period, not actually targeting crime, just black people.

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#8638338 - 04/27/16 12:46 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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That's what you've been saying
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#8638380 - 04/27/16 01:04 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I think there are a few issues at play here, but Wayne is so triggered that he is lumping all of his prejudice into one while not being able to make a coherent point on a single thing we've talked about so far.

1. Discrimination/profiling of low income blacks by police.
2. Police profiling related to driving.
3. No Police accountability (G20 references).

He is sitting here trying to tie all this shit together with skin colour and bullshit examples.

Point 1, No doubt there is an issue, but he is clueless, knows nothing 'bout dat lyfe.
Point 2, he is so triggered by police that he isn't event making sense with his bullshit pull over stories.
Point 3, he can have this one as he can make a half decent argument, expert SIU investigator and all.

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#8638390 - 04/27/16 01:08 PM Re: Is GTA turning into Detroit? [Re: Risky Business]
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Funny that the common denominator in all of it is police behaving badly.
1. Its not just against low income blacks
2. Not an issue when you are not a teenager driving a slammed honda with a lowered exhaust
3. Obvious is obvious, applies not just to G20.

Point 1. I lived in shittier neighbourhoods than you Vas, Dawes Rd, doesn't compare to Malvern or Malton
Point 2. Dat white privilege, you wouldn't know police harassment even if it happened in front of you.
Point 3. You better recognize... or ask somebody.

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