#8546010 - 02/06/16 03:24 PM
Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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I am in Portugal at the end of March for a global finance meeting and will have 3 days to myself to do whatever I want and will be bringing my bike. After talking to some coworkers who are based out of the area I was told about some common cycling areas, which I then correlated with Strava's heatmap to come up with a course.
My options are limited in terms of distance, in order to hit up all the worthy spots on this mountain ride I am pretty much committing myself of riding a loop around the mountain, which is 55 miles (this is the easy part). I have no issue with the distance, but it's 10k feet in vert elevation 
The most vert climbing I've done was on a similar ride in NorCal with my dad and that was 1/3rd of the elevation...it was rough. So three times the elevation in a butt fuck mountain with no one around I am not sure how I will fare. I have just under 2 months to prepare. My only goal is to finish this in a day without dying, straight forward. Obvious concern is that I am alone and have never done this much climbing in my life.
My current plan is to get at least 1k km on my rollers/outside if weather allows before leaving, aside from that it's also some of this:
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#8546044 - 02/06/16 04:08 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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It took me 3 tries to get up mt Hamilton last year, but both fails were dehydration based. I finally found a ater stop in a park along the route like a mile out of the way. Hamilton was a 34 mile loop with a vertical mile. It was rough but I lived when I finally made it. Could I have done that route twice/back to back like the route you're planning? Doubt it...even with a support vehicle feeding me water bottles lol
And my grade was easy as fuck, the road was specifically built so that donkeys yes donkeys could pull the Hamilton observatory up piece by piece
I figure you need a plan B around not making it :D, not sure what conditioning you can gain in 2 months, probably not that much but I know you're kind of an animal so who knows
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#8546046 - 02/06/16 04:08 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Compact crank, 11-32 cassette.
Do a lot of jumpsquats for the next month, too.
Still gonna suck doe. 
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#8546079 - 02/06/16 05:05 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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I am glad I posted here, maybe I should talk myself out of it??? Biggest concern is that it's unfamiliar territory and I am alone.
Training aside I also decided to drop weight when I committed to do this, I am down about 8lbs over the last month, goal is to get down to 185 for this ride (15 lbs to go), then when I am back I will go back up to my "normal" of 200 which is where I am most comfortable.
My plan as it stands right now is to drive the route the day before committing myself to doing the ride. At that point I was thinking of leaving/hiding food and water in different areas (hopefully the animals don't take it at night  ) that way I would have some stuff stashed along the way and I will also know what to expect.
Here is the elevation profile...
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#8546082 - 02/06/16 05:11 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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More pics of my potential burial site:
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#8546129 - 02/06/16 06:27 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Does the grade really only peak at 5.3%? That's pretty mellow. You can probably make it but not sure it's a great idea lol. How about a nice little ride somewhere and a hike :p
10% IMO is where shit starts to ge real. A little 5-6 mile stretch of a 10% grade and I am done for the day lol
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#8546188 - 02/06/16 08:51 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Youll be ok with some training and if you pace yourself right but damn thats a lot of vert in 55mi. Most ive ever done was 14.5kim 100 miles and that sucked. Have fun! 
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#8546190 - 02/06/16 08:52 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Also....fly me out and ill ride it with you/provide support for you 
Edited by nato2377 (02/06/16 08:52 PM)
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#8546577 - 02/07/16 03:12 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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I changed my mind, if OP makes a really concerted effort to stay in zone 1 or at worst 2 he'll have no problems. Leave zone 2 at your peril tho haha. I assume it will take like 6 hrs and make sure you carry enough water, probably a ginormo camelback will do, also enough calories to survive, you know like 100-200/hr or so or whatever your body can take in without cramping/gastric stress
I'd figure you'll need 6 hrs for the loop/wild guess. I'd plan on stopping for lunch in the middle
The problem with staying in zone 1 on a climb is if it's steep you fall over lol
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#8547136 - 02/08/16 07:34 AM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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I haven't looked at the specifics, but I know there are many 12% hills that stretch over a km in length with some topping out at 16% (is that even road legal?)
There is a little town 35 miles or so in that I was planning to stop in for lunch/rest.
I also dropped my bike on the weekend and bent the rear derailleur I bent it back by hand, but it's shifting all whack so it will need an adjustment. Wonder if bending it has weakened enough for premature failure or if I should roll the dice? Maybe I will pull an impulsive shortly.
nato, pay for your flight and food and you can crash in my hotel  This is the only thing that sucks about it, doing it alone 
(In other news, this location was rated as the top 10 places you need to ride before you die) - I am not sure if death happens in the mountain tho.
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#8547159 - 02/08/16 08:24 AM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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i would totally do that but im tapped out trying to get to california for 2 weeks of racing in april
id get a spare rear derailleur hangers juuuust in case.
i still think youll be fine, just keep it in zone2 and stay hydrated and fueled
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#8547382 - 02/08/16 12:17 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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#8547398 - 02/08/16 12:26 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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That seems like a lot of vert for that short of distance.
A LOT
I don't know shit about climbing, but that sounds brutal. Like my planned stupid event is 10k vert/150miles (nothing approaching a mile of 12%)
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#8562072 - 02/21/16 05:12 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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I am kind of on track with my "training". Weight is still around 200, training indoors is fucking horrible. I am in Detroit this week for work and will be bringing my bike and rollers to live it up in my hotel room.
Pics of misery to follow.
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#8585860 - 03/12/16 02:28 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Getting closer, almost at 800km so far this year sitting at 195lbs. Starting to feel a bit too lean at this weight, but will keep going down to 185-190 and take it from there. Went out for a 50km ride, passed a bunch of people, feelz good man. I guess it was the first ride of the year for many this time around. Speed was still shit, but it felt like I could keep going for a while. Averaged 147bmp (includes warm up/warm down) at just under 2 hours.
Should probably add more intensity over the next few weeks?
Planning on incorporating some hill repeats at 10% grade near me, that's about it.
Plan B is to decide if I should shorten the route as well. Then I feel I am cheating myself, but I've also realized at 32 I am not as brave as at 22 and I am not sure I've covered of everything that could go wrong in a remote place where I am alone, don't speak the language or know my way around at all
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#8587616 - 03/14/16 06:03 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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didn't read much of the thread, but the pictures look amazing.
living in downtown dallas = 
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#8587644 - 03/14/16 06:54 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Getting closer, almost at 800km so far this year sitting at 195lbs. Starting to feel a bit too lean at this weight, but will keep going down to 185-190 and take it from there. Went out for a 50km ride, passed a bunch of people, feelz good man. I guess it was the first ride of the year for many this time around. Speed was still shit, but it felt like I could keep going for a while. Averaged 147bmp (includes warm up/warm down) at just under 2 hours. Should probably add more intensity over the next few weeks? Planning on incorporating some hill repeats at 10% grade near me, that's about it. Plan B is to decide if I should shorten the route as well. Then I feel I am cheating myself, but I've also realized at 32 I am not as brave as at 22 and I am not sure I've covered of everything that could go wrong in a remote place where I am alone, don't speak the language or know my way around at all
They have ubers with bike racks there?
You'll do fine man. Just remind yourself that it's an adventure and roll with whatever puches come your way.
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#8595500 - 03/21/16 12:11 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Work has been hell lately, I haven't been able to ride much, the weather has been shit and the forecast for the three days that I will be there and NOT working it's calling for rain and wind, so probably even worse in the mountains.
Basically went from being super pumped about this trip to not giving a flying fuck at this point, I don't even want to go anymore (mostly due to work, secondly due to weather). If I wanted shit weather I might as well stay where I am.
Case of the Mondays 
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#8595790 - 03/21/16 02:31 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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#8596131 - 03/21/16 08:38 PM
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I think i will do a week in the life leading up to this fucking failure of a "vacation" starting next Saturday when I leave. You can spend the next 6 days witnessing misery unfold. I don't give a fuck anymore, maybe i will take pics of rain for 6 days straight
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#8596154 - 03/21/16 08:51 PM
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I am trying to come up with different poses for each day, any ideas?
I also have some ideas for the windy days:
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#8596157 - 03/21/16 08:51 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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#8598248 - 03/23/16 12:15 PM
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Rented a bike box, picking it up today.
Pics of failed attempt at packaging bike inbound.
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#8598915 - 03/23/16 09:25 PM
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Has anyone ever packed a bike in one of these? Dude gave me a 30 minute instructional, basically:
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#8600964 - 03/25/16 02:20 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Why deflate tires?
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#8601493 - 03/25/16 11:12 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Rental box guy told me tires have to be deflated and no co cartridges allowed.
Leaving tomorrow, going to pack bike in morning. Week in life about to start...I also found out I might end up spending close to 500 in baggage checks because of bike. Air canada to Germany is 50 each way but apparently Lufthansa is 200 each way and I have to take them from Frankfurt to Porto.
Please keep me company starting tomorrow. This won't end well.
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#8601707 - 03/26/16 10:32 AM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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#8601788 - 03/26/16 12:19 PM
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wtf....wow
Thanks for the tip, will check now. Boarding at 4pm
The box is heavish, i put a bunch of shit in there that I was going to keep in the carry on. I am gone for a week and going with just a carry on, put some dress shirts and such in the box
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#8601812 - 03/26/16 12:59 PM
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Case and bike are 55lbs I am already at the limit with my carry on.
The way this is going I may be better off buying a new road bike there and then dumping it in the ocean when I am done.
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#8601868 - 03/26/16 02:16 PM
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So I just checked in my bike no one weighed it and they didn't ask me to pay extra for it as per the website? Maybe some dude that works in luggage handling is riding it home now.
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#8601903 - 03/26/16 02:48 PM
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i  this thread have fun dude!
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#8602407 - 03/27/16 12:20 AM
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So I just checked in my bike no one weighed it and they didn't ask me to pay extra for it as per the website? Maybe some dude that works in luggage handling is riding it home now. If you are going with only a carry on I believe your bike can count as a checked bag, worked out good I guess. Keep us updated.
You might be right. I flew business class so maybe that's why, I thought only for first class they waive these fees for extra large luggage. As per frequent flyer forums and slow twitch you can't check bike boxes as regular checked in bag.
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#8602408 - 03/27/16 12:21 AM
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Where in Portugal?
You'll kill it.
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#8602418 - 03/27/16 12:48 AM
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#8602419 - 03/27/16 12:49 AM
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#8602620 - 03/27/16 03:13 PM
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Haven't slept for 36 hours, feels sick man. Supposed to do my big ride tomorrow, calling for rain and wind gusts of up 50km/h.
Anyway, on to some riding:
Earlier today:
This place is a lot like Greece in many respects, but having the ocean > sea is a huge diff. People surfing in this shit too, it was pretty rough.
I forgot my map in the room and got lost so ended up in places like these, was really nice to see. Exploring a European city by bike is probably the single best way of doing it imo.
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#8602958 - 03/28/16 04:11 AM
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It's pissing buckets of rain here so I will take my rental and drive out into the country side and check out my alternate route for tomorrow. I can't do the original route anymore, they are calling for snow in parts of it and thunderstorms. I am going a little more north in Portugal as per the radar they are only supposed to get some drizzle. Re-mapped a new route towards Vila Real, the route stats are fairly similar, views not as epic though.
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#8603252 - 03/28/16 11:22 AM
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#8603401 - 03/28/16 12:25 PM
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http://youtu.be/F5x4mM7ja3w
Preview of tomorrow from today's cruise, not pictured cyclist on side of road.
So at what point do I call it quits? It looks like rain/wind like today, in some points the wind was really bad especially at higher altitude.
I didn't fly out here to look at the bike in my room, but I am also trying to put some sort of value on my life, right now it's not looking high.
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#8603417 - 03/28/16 12:31 PM
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Another vid from yesterday, those waves doe
http://youtu.be/O80317sYSzM
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#8603665 - 03/28/16 03:10 PM
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I keep waiting for the part where the guy goes and gets the crowbar out of the trunk!
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#8603692 - 03/28/16 03:30 PM
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I guess I am heading out rain or shine, nato is right can't pussy out now.
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#8604258 - 03/29/16 09:09 AM
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#8604260 - 03/29/16 09:11 AM
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#8604412 - 03/29/16 11:17 AM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Risky Business
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Epic ride was epic, now off to work
Rollercoaster of a ride, from crazy downpours to miles upon miles of ridiculous climbing in the granny ring, was debating pulling a stickaz at one point and walking it lolz.
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#8604421 - 03/29/16 11:22 AM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Risky Business
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Cool view, could've used a go pro
http://youtu.be/UXhUYSgeD4s
I was taking more pics at first, but it started killing the buzz of bombing down the hills so I said fuck it. Didn't come here to document this shit and put camera away for the remainder of ride
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#8604863 - 03/29/16 04:44 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Risky Business
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So total distance/time and how did you find it? Hell or manageable? Cool pics for sure.
Original plan was to ride on Monday because I had all day, due to weather I rode today and had my first meeting at 3pm local so I basically had to limit myself to a total of 3 hours of riding in that time (not including 2 hours commute to/from mountain) so the ride was only 60km with ~6k feet of vert as per my estimates. I can't see my garmin data yet because work computer.
Based on how I was feeling, despite riding in shit conditions, not having brakes on most of the crazy downhills, etc I am positive I could've pulled off double the distance vert over 5-6 hours at this pace.
I was thinking about what stickaz said, keep heart rate in zone 1/zone 2, but the reality on climbs that are 17km long you can't pick your zone. I was pegged at about 155-160 bpm for an hour+ during the first 11 mile uphill. Holding that for the time wasn't difficult, legs killed, but it wasn't the end of the world.
All in all, hills aren't that physically tough, it's more mental than anything else (this it talking survival/making it/etc - if you are good shape shouldn't be an issue). Going fast uphill is different, you have to be a nato, he'd probably average 20mph up this shit.
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#8604937 - 03/29/16 05:49 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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schtickaz.ai
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^u killed it bro, 6k vert fucks me all kinds of up lol
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#8605044 - 03/29/16 07:20 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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civic00sedan
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Missing black oval!!
Good on you for making the best of it and riding. Look sick! I love climbing
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#8607503 - 03/31/16 01:06 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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dirtyS13drifta
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Nicely done mate. Much better pace than me (carrying the dslr meant I stopped for photos constantly).
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#8607720 - 03/31/16 03:08 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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stickaz_old
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Depends how high the stem is
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#8607886 - 03/31/16 05:18 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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Risky Business
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Do it, biking new areas is so fucking liberating.
Don't want to jinx it, but I checked in my bike in Porto and I didn't get charged anything again.
So looks like bringing the bike was "free" after all. I have no idea if it's because of the plane ticket and seats or if it's because it's low season. I am also scared to ask.
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#8607932 - 03/31/16 06:13 PM
Re: Am I setting myself up to fail/death? Cycling shens.
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dirtyS13drifta
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Nm,
I can't believe I was just feeling awesome for:
flying to europe business class
looking awesome in a suit while there
and then going for solo bike ride in beautiful european country
And then you did literally the same damn thing (but rode further because badass).
I also think we were probably avoiding the same weather system (I rode the one day without hail/lightning forecast for the area).
Edited by dirtyS13drifta (03/31/16 06:21 PM)
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