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#8064516 - 01/27/15 07:42 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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Once you're off the cycle, how long can/will you go before needing/wanting to use again?
Do you keep the gains from being on the cycle as long as you keep working in the gym, or will you eventually lose them and become long-term dependent if you want to retain your current peak?

If it's the latter, have you thought about your long-term (years) plan? No judgement from me, I'm curious what the usual approach is, and how you plan on tackling it.

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#8065686 - 01/28/15 01:25 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: SJP0tato]
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i don't plan to "go off"... i'll run only low dose test for 12-20 weeks and then decide what my next blast cycle will be...

if you cycle off completely, you will likely lose some of the gains as you simply won't be able to sustain the training effort you've likely been able to achieve while on...

I don't think it makes sense to cycle on and off... if you go on, you're essentially deciding that you're going to be on a TRT dose for the long term, and you can certainly still make gains even on a TRT dose...

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#8069655 - 01/30/15 05:14 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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3 weeks into cut still making strength gains... I imagine I should be able to continue to make gains for another 4-8 weeks before i stall out...
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#8069657 - 01/30/15 05:15 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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hit 290x6 on bench this week after 275x9 last week...

Running a slightly modified 531 at this point...

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#8069745 - 01/30/15 06:59 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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#8077472 - 02/04/15 02:04 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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updated pic from this morning... hanging around 233 this week, but i think i'm looking leaner, so i'm most likely recomping which is why my scale isn't really moving this week... DRUGS... lol


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#8077539 - 02/04/15 02:33 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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#8083920 - 02/08/15 10:12 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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#8092098 - 02/13/15 05:48 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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hit 280x8 today on bench, another PR... really wanted 9 to match the 275x9 I had on my last 5+ cycle of the 531, but I ain't mad at 8 reps...

Shooting for 315 for at least a triple in like 5 weeks... Would be great as I would think i should be at a bodyweight of about 225ish or less by then...

Not a gargantuan strength feat, but easily a huge PR for me, and my monkey arms...

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#8092209 - 02/13/15 07:51 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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Oh and Joeyballs you might be interested to know i'm up to 700mgs of tren now... pinning 1cc ed... lol

either i got some bunk tren or my body loves it, cause i'm getting like zero negative sides...

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#8092316 - 02/13/15 10:49 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
hit 280x8 today on bench, another PR... really wanted 9 to match the 275x9 I had on my last 5+ cycle of the 531, but I ain't mad at 8 reps...

Shooting for 315 for at least a triple in like 5 weeks... Would be great as I would think i should be at a bodyweight of about 225ish or less by then...

Not a gargantuan strength feat, but easily a huge PR for me, and my monkey arms...


Man looking at you I would have guessed you were a 400lb bencher easy but I know you've said that you struggle with that lift.

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#8096368 - 02/17/15 01:19 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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never been a good bencher... but this is easily the strongest I've ever been on that lift...

max lift i've been able to hit is 345, but haven't attempted any max lifts for about 6 -8 weeks now...

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#8099803 - 02/19/15 03:09 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Oh and Joeyballs you might be interested to know i'm up to 700mgs of tren now... pinning 1cc ed... lol

either i got some bunk tren or my body loves it, cause i'm getting like zero negative sides...


Holy shit man... At 700mg I'd have some crazy side effects.

Is your urine rust colored? Night sweats?


With almost every Tren cycle I've been on I've had night sweats, darker urine, shortness of breath (sometimes), and a irritability. Is yours from a homemade lab or an actual brand?
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#8100046 - 02/19/15 05:41 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: Joeyballs]
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It's a respected UG lab... i ocassionally get the night sweats, but zero issue with darker urine or irritability (above my normal level)...

Only side i think i'm getting is an increased resting heart rate in the 90's, but my BP is usually right around 120/80...

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#8100431 - 02/19/15 11:03 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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Gotta pump blood to feed all that muscle, right? The resistance to the blood flow is low because vascular.

I'm being serious, btw.

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#8100486 - 02/20/15 12:38 AM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel


Only side i think i'm getting is an increased resting heart rate in the 90's


That would literally keep me awake at night (my resting is high 50s/low 60s)

The results are amazing tho.
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#8100583 - 02/20/15 08:14 AM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: gamby]
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#8100742 - 02/20/15 09:15 AM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Oh and Joeyballs you might be interested to know i'm up to 700mgs of tren now... pinning 1cc ed... lol

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#8111898 - 02/28/15 05:57 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Still hitting 700mg of tren, still no negative sides to date...

Had an injury of my lat / tricep area last Friday while benching so my training has been less than stellar since... Hoping to get back into the swing of things this week...

Plan to add Masteron-prop in the next few weeks as I lean out... Only 15 weeks to go and I can stop being a pin cushion... lol...

Weight is high 227's / low 228's right now... Really hoping to hit 225 by the end of this week and then I will post some progress pics...

My most telling pics will come at 215 which will be a comparison to the end of my last natty bulk, vs where I am currently at 215... should be quite a drastic difference between the two different 215's...

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#8111916 - 02/28/15 06:31 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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still have liver function?
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#8111950 - 02/28/15 07:40 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: stickaz_old]
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injectables don't typically mess with your liver function and I actually take liv52 just to be on the safe side...
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#8111951 - 02/28/15 07:40 PM Re: All I can say about drugs... [Re: DieZel]
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i think the only injectable that is metabolized in the liver is Winstrol, and I haven't messed with it, and don't really have any plans to...
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