I feel bad for the people that left their old jobs to go there. I know quite a few people that work there

Source for those wondering: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/target-c...tores-1.2901618

You called it, but so did a number of consultancies. Target hired a number of agencies to do a review and they were told that their Canadian operations would fail, plan was too aggressive and their timelines too stringent.

And now this!!!

Also their competitors are pretty smart and aggressive themselves and wouldn't just let a new entrant grab market share at will.

They did make a lot of mistakes on their end though.

the two-storey Target store will anchor the entire retail portion of Menkes Developments’ Harbour Plaza. As well, Healthcare of Ontario Pension Plan (HOOPP) is a partner in the 35-storey tower at One York Street, not a partner in the entire project.

the only reason i called it was because i knew canadians were expecting US target prices with higher quality merchandise and that was just notgonnahappen.


i am very curious to know this "big" difference between cdn and us consumers though...

other than pricing, what was the miscalculation in terms of consumer insights?

the only reason i called it was because i knew canadians were expecting US target prices with higher quality merchandise and that was just notgonnahappen.


i am very curious to know this "big" difference between cdn and us consumers though...

other than pricing, what was the miscalculation in terms of consumer insights?

Word on the street is they had lots of supply chain and store quantity issues... I don't know for sure I'm just guessing.

The places are stacked full of product with little or no shoppers. Everytime I go in there its like a private shopping trip for me and only me

But is it the right product? Imagine you get everything you need except 3 items so you have to go somewhere else to buy those? Hassle right?

Imagine you go in to buy 1 specific item that's a great deal that's promoted. That's all you came in for - imagine they didn't have it? Annoying right?

The places are stacked full of product with little or no shoppers. Everytime I go in there its like a private shopping trip for me and only me

Canadian customers do work and respond differently than the US

i hear this all the time, and i see it in the car market, but what is the big difference in the retail goods market

i know theres big CS differences, and we let businesses get away with a lot more than US customers.. wat dat lawsuit mentality deww



but i still havent seen any concrete evidence of such a massive rift in consumer sentiment when it comes to buying

loved how quiet it was vs wallymart. wifey and i go there with the baby, just roam around grab whatever you need in peace. barely checkout lineup. pricing was decent on certain items, sometimes very good if on sale. reg priced stuff nothign special.

Nobody in the stores? Kiss of death.

i actually liked shopping at target.

loved how quiet it was vs wallymart. wifey and i go there with the baby, just roam around grab whatever you need in peace. barely checkout lineup. pricing was decent on certain items, sometimes very good if on sale. reg priced stuff nothign special.

I wish we knew a retail exec, they probably would know about this topic.

Shiet... this reminds me... This has serious implications...

They a branded debit and CC ... shiiiiiet....

The company said “nearly all Target Canada-based employees receive a minimum of 16 weeks of compensation, including wages and benefits coverage for employees who are not required for the full wind-down period.”

I feel bad for the people that left their old jobs to go there. I know quite a few people that work there

There is the problem of comparison shopping (US vs Canadian prices) always.
What Canadian consumers don't understand is the cost of logistics is much, much higher in Canada vs the 'states, so prices would never be equal.

I'm not certain the Target issue was ever pricing though (in reality). There may have been the perception of Target being expensive, but Target always priced stuff the same as Walmart for the equivalent product. + Price matching. + many promotions that were way cheaper. Ppl just didn't bother going to the store. It's always a ghost town there and for that, I do not know why.

Yes, there were supply chain issues up front, but many of those were resolved later on...and despite resolution, the stores were still ghost towns XD

Been to 3 targets and they were consistent...consistent with empty counters that is!!!

The other thing that confused me about target. So they wanted to position themselves as a discount store (just going by memory from all the advertising propaganda), yet they have a Starbucks...lol. I confused.

the only thing you are consistent on is hating everything else.

One in Barrie is always stocked, even on opening day I didn't see any empty shelving.

Did not experience those issues in sauga.

^ which location? The two I went to(which were somewhat late bloomers to the market) were fine.

The places are stacked full of product with little or no shoppers. Everytime I go in there its like a private shopping trip for me and only me

On regular occasion there were many holes in inventory in all of the mississauga ones.

I never encountered any problems

casette? damn boy, you must come from money!

As for Target - the entire Canadian side was blindsided.
The decision to chop Canadian ops came from upper management on the US side on Thursday. Because the US company was doing bad on the state side, they could no longer afford the huge risk on the Canadian side.

They went as far as cancelling all corporate cards + shutting down phone lines at HQ + having cops at the office incase of riot. So internal or external communications, and those that were travelling on business got fucked bc their corporate cards no longer worked (my wife being one of them).

HQ is officially closed and their package begins immediately. Vacations are being paid out etc.

Problem is?

you're just a miserable cranky old man. relax dude and we dont want ya to be the first to get a heart attack on csi-on.

That is fucking disgusting, from their shitty roll out, to this.

It doesn't surprise me one bit on how they handled this, talk about lack of stop gap measures even with this massive shutdown. It's rare in history to see such sharp closures, that explains why they are offering these generous packages (16 weeks for less than 2 years of work, lol only 1 week is required for every year worked a this level). I've worked on 2 restructuring plans to date and this is laughable, it will cost more money to do what they are doing now than handling it like civilized people. Scum, fuck target.

As for Target - the entire Canadian side was blindsided.
The decision to chop Canadian ops came from upper management on the US side on Thursday. Because the US company was doing bad on the state side, they could no longer afford the huge risk on the Canadian side.

They went as far as cancelling all corporate cards + shutting down phone lines at HQ + having cops at the office incase of riot. So internal or external communications, and those that were travelling on business got fucked bc their corporate cards no longer worked (my wife being one of them).

HQ is officially closed and their package begins immediately. Vacations are being paid out etc.

thats fucked.

link to source doe?

everyone run to target in 3 weeks to buy a sonic care!

In true fashion all the brownies were at the target by our place this weekend trying to scoop up a deal

That is fucking disgusting, from their shitty roll out, to this.

It doesn't surprise me one bit on how they handled this, talk about lack of stop gap measures even with this massive shutdown. It's rare in history to see such sharp closures, that explains why they are offering these generous packages (16 weeks for less than 2 years of work, lol only 1 week is required for every year worked a this level). I've worked on 2 restructuring plans to date and this is laughable, it will cost more money to do what they are doing now than handling it like civilized people. Scum, fuck target.

i've been today and yesterday over lunch because i needed to pick up some shit...

i had no idea that their shit is that much less than loblaws. some of the shit i bought at loblaws the day before (mostly household shit) were twice as much at loblaws! FUCK!

i had no idea that their shit is that much less than loblaws. some of the shit i bought at loblaws the day before (mostly household shit) were twice as much at loblaws! FUCK!

the stores do look pretty sad right now...nothing worth buying are on sale at this point.

back to loblaws for me. ugh!

a GC Asian in the making ...

there is riff raff at other stores?

its not chinatown common

dude. the "nicer" No Frills on Dundas & Landsdowne is riff raff central.

I don't even want to talk about the one on King and Jameson. I'm too much of a prissy bitch to shop there.

Nothing beats the Liberty Village Metro on a Saturday afternoon after a Yoga class. it's a full on yoga pants ASSault.

I might have to do my grocery shopping in Toronto.

Shopping at Metro is like shopping at a giant gas station. I hate that place.

Fortinos or die.

I go during my lunch, in and out in under 30 mins. Fuck dealing with that shit in your spare time outside of work.

fortinos in maple on a sunday morning...holy milf central.

I park in a climate controlled garage at work, in some cases I've brought in items and put them in the fridge. Most stuff you buy will be fine anyway.

So your fresh groceries sit in your car all day?

Vas does the grocery shopping ... Oh shit wat dat coupon clipping savings do doe

We definitely splurge on food, wat dat organic, local, non gmo food do doe?

i've bought truck cheese before.

best $30 i've ever spent.

Manchago on EVERYTHING for 3 months.

hahaha complaining about grocery shopping.
That's what grocery gateway is for, son!!!!
Delivered to your door! Total time spent: 5 minutes making order online

Luckily the grocery stores by me are open til 10pm. I've often gone late in the evening. It sucks when you get home late from work every day

i read somewhere that Loblaws will also have a drive through style order ahead and pick up...tho it won't matter to you guys since y'all hate loblaws.