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#8009897 - 12/17/14 09:25 AM Home video Security System
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What are you guys running?
Had a package stolen from the front door Amazon is awesome though, full refund.
Figured a 2 or 4 camera system would be good
I want to be able to view the feed remotley, i would perfer a notification when there is motion, other than that i dunno anything else?
Any suggestions?
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#8009929 - 12/17/14 09:34 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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#8009945 - 12/17/14 09:41 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.
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#8009946 - 12/17/14 09:43 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: furball]
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I've been eyeballing some 'higher-tech' ones, i.e. DIY, wireless, cordless sensors, etc...

Nothing that really has the ease/dummy-like numeric keypad panels + keyfobs though...i.e. I don't want a huge ass keyfob to disarm all the time. A tiny one is awesome PLUS keypad.

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#8009966 - 12/17/14 09:59 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie _82
Get shit delivered to work.
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#8009976 - 12/17/14 10:02 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie _82
Get shit delivered to work.

wife ordered it, i always do

 Originally Posted By: furball
Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.

excellent i was reading up, their systems seem pretty good
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#8009991 - 12/17/14 10:08 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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#8010005 - 12/17/14 10:13 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.


Is what I am currently using right now at home.

Excellent technical support, and APP integration exceptionally with iOS which I am able to replay video feeds via my iPhone or iPad.

2TB 8 Camera setup around the house and in the garage.
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#8010018 - 12/17/14 10:18 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Huy009]
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look slike it's sold out online how much was it?
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#8010062 - 12/17/14 10:36 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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 Originally Posted By: zc911
look slike it's sold out online how much was it?



I cant remember exactly how much I sent on the setup

I think it was around the 1300ish or so

2TB DVR with 24" Touch Screen monitor (IMO useless since you can view everything remotely
8 wired cameras on top of that additional wiring going to the back yard

But it looks like prices went down

http://www.lorextechnology.com/complete-...on/prod610002.p
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#8010104 - 12/17/14 10:51 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Huy009]
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i think i like the digital Ip stuff better, i can use ethernet cable to the cameras.
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#8010140 - 12/17/14 11:03 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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You get what you pay for.

The Lorex and q see stuff is low end. It wows you with its large hdd and included cameras but things fail on these units and sometimes tech support can be iffy. We have installed a couple q see units for customers only to have to replace cameras a few months after. ip cameras have come down in price a lot so your other option is a few ip cameras and use a PC with blue iris to record. Other than that I suggest you buy a knock off Hikvision Dvr and a couple of cameras. You can get 650tvl analog cameras around $30-50

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#8010145 - 12/17/14 11:04 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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 Originally Posted By: zc911
i think i like the digital Ip stuff better, i can use ethernet cable to the cameras.


You can also use cat5 for analog with a Balun. Rg59 and power is hardly used anymore because of copper prices.

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#8010161 - 12/17/14 11:10 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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Another option is just buy an ip camera and put a micro as card and record on motion. You could also have the images emailed or uploaded to an ftp and no Need for another machine recording
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#8010207 - 12/17/14 11:28 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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http://www.cnet.com/news/diy-home-security-roundup/
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#8010222 - 12/17/14 11:41 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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So what will having a camera setup do for you? If it is to deter thieves, why not just put up a dummy camera?
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#8010233 - 12/17/14 11:46 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Hatorade]
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Was eyeing a Lorex LHD818 system at Costco the other evening. 8 channel 1TB DVR with 8 720P cameras for $499. Did some preliminary research, not bad for the price, but I'm somewhat deterred by the long term reliability of it. I was planning on doing my own DIY system, but these packages and their pricing is starting to get more attractive. This system runs coax though.
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#8010360 - 12/17/14 12:45 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: RIC3BOY]
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Like I said you don't need to run coax you can still run cat5 and buy baluns for it. If you decide to switch down the road to ip you still have the correct wiring for it.
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#8010363 - 12/17/14 12:47 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
So what will having a camera setup do for you? If it is to deter thieves, why not just put up a dummy camera?


Not just thieves but anything where you need proof down the road. Who says it wasn't one of the neighbors thieving stuff? Plus dummy cameras are so fake looking anyone who sees them can almost tell they are fake. If you spend more on a good looking fake you may as well just buy the real thing.

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#8010373 - 12/17/14 12:54 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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sorry the other good thing is POE, no extra power cord. With the adaptor you still need power to the camera

Oh crap you dont, nice!
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm


Edited by zc911 (12/17/14 01:01 PM)
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#8010423 - 12/17/14 01:25 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
Like I said you don't need to run coax you can still run cat5 and buy baluns for it. If you decide to switch down the road to ip you still have the correct wiring for it.


Just looked up what the baluns are. Well shit on me, looks like I'm running cat5. Which is perfect, because they're throwing away two boxes of 1000ft at work

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#8010597 - 12/17/14 02:30 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: RIC3BOY]
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IP cameras run on a 5v USB power cable....
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#8010765 - 12/17/14 03:29 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
IP cameras run on a 5v USB power cable....


umm what?

poe is 48vdc over cat5

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#8010768 - 12/17/14 03:31 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: zc911]
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 Originally Posted By: zc911
sorry the other good thing is POE, no extra power cord. With the adaptor you still need power to the camera

Oh crap you dont, nice!
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm


You don't even need those ones.

A balun runs on 1 pair, so you have 3 pair on the cat5 to do what you want.

You can buy the $5 a pair baluns and wire the other spares for power.

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#8010792 - 12/17/14 03:43 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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Good thread, I am also looking into a cheap recording camera for the front area and back....

Someone stole my weed puller and my recycle bin!!!and an attempt on my old bbq grill....I want to see which neighbour

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#8010847 - 12/17/14 04:17 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Denshu]
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Good thread, I am also looking into a cheap recording camera for the front area and back....

Someone stole my weed puller and my recycle bin!!!and an attempt on my old bbq grill....I want to see which neighbour
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Sounds like a solid neighbourhood lol
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#8010963 - 12/17/14 05:09 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Hatorade]
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between me and loudsubz we could prob get you a reputable brand system.
if you want one of us to run the cables holler.

only question is what do you want to see? focal length on kits are like 3.6mm, if you want a better field of view go with 2.8mm.

also most dvrs/nvrs have an app you can run on your phone to monitor your house anywhere you are.
you can trigger emails to go out etc...
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#8011194 - 12/17/14 08:23 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Loudsubz does not run cable. Pffft
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#8011196 - 12/17/14 08:25 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8011300 - 12/17/14 10:07 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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#8011325 - 12/17/14 10:36 PM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Hatorade]
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#8011475 - 12/18/14 07:17 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8011500 - 12/18/14 07:52 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: loudsubz]
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How exactly do you 'run' cables, be it cat5, baluns, USB cable, etc? Cut into the drywall 'n shit? \:\(

I've got a couple of wireless IP cameras (1 USB cable for power), and while they're HD and all... They only record to an SD card for now. They're highly portable obviously ...

I want to supplement my setup with a 'smart' security system, one of those DIY ones, but it doesn't have some of the 'old-school' parts to them, such as:

- beeping when a door opens (i.e. door sensor)
- keypad

The ones I've seen have a door sensor, but only for alarm. (i.e. they're run on a tiny 3v battery, so to beep every time the door opens would chew thru the battery They also don't have a keypad, foregoing that for 'smarter' methods such as phone and/or keyfob integration. (I want keypad + phone + keyfob)


Edited by furball (12/18/14 08:04 AM)

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#8011501 - 12/18/14 07:55 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: furball]
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grab one end of the cable, run as fast as you can in any particular direction, stop.

there, you just 'ran' a cable.
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#8011503 - 12/18/14 07:55 AM Re: Home video Security System [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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I'd prefer not to have a fucking blue wire (cat5?) going up my wall....

 Originally Posted By: Simon_the_Pieman
grab one end of the cable, run as fast as you can in any particular direction, stop.

there, you just 'ran' a cable.

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