#7933447 - 10/27/14 11:09 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Risky Business
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I think Tory is finally in the right place at the right time.
Yep, Ford/Chow have no chance.
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#7933486 - 10/27/14 11:27 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Tory should take it. Chow I don't think has a chance at all. Apart from the downtown core, she has little support from the suburbs. Doug is going to need some luck to win it but i don't think it's completely impossible.
However, it's a nice day, old people probably don't mind getting off their rocking chair to mark a ballot for a wealthy, clean-cut, smooth-talking, middle-of-the-road while male.
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#7933490 - 10/27/14 11:30 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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I think Tory is finally in the right place at the right time.
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#7933588 - 10/27/14 12:27 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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I think Tory is finally in the right place at the right time.
Agreed
this. 0 fucks given. but this.
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#7933611 - 10/27/14 12:35 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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I heard on the radio DoFo is spending $500k of his OWN MONEY, which brings his overall campaign donations to $850k...
That's fucking intense. I thought there were caps on how much money a single individual/group can donate for political reasons?
The $850k is nowhere near what the others raised... Chow did $1.7M total.
The average donor contributed $256.95, the Chow campaign said. Under Ontario election finance law, the maximum donation to a mayoral campaign is $2,500.
Chow: http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/20..._donations.html
Tory: http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/to..._big_names.html
DoFo: http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/to...sed_300000.html
Ah, here we go...
Mayoral campaigns are allowed to spend approximately $1.3 million before election day. A candidate and his or her spouse could conceivably cover the entire amount, though family members would be limited to contributing no more than $2,500 each.
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#7933618 - 10/27/14 12:39 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Tory has some big shooters on that list, fuuuu. I've met Belzberg and Weston , cool rorry bae
Belzberg gave me his wife's 7 series to go to Mississauga and pick out exotic stone samples for his patio
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#7933670 - 10/27/14 12:54 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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:o exotic stone samples for his patio ORLY? let me know his address, i'm going to get my pickaxe. exotic stone black market here i come.
If you want exotic, go to Peter Munk's house, he had us fly in cobblestone from England worth more than all of our lives.
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#7933740 - 10/27/14 01:20 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Belzberg as in the trading platform? The one that went under last year?
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#7933895 - 10/27/14 02:22 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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No idea wtf that is, this is his cash cow: http://www.torquest.com
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#7933935 - 10/27/14 02:40 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Screamin Type ARGH!
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:o exotic stone samples for his patio ORLY? let me know his address, i'm going to get my pickaxe. exotic stone black market here i come. If you want exotic, go to Peter Munk's house, he had us fly in cobblestone from England worth more than all of our lives.
lol.
wow rich folk are silly.
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#7934352 - 10/27/14 07:38 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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#7934359 - 10/27/14 07:41 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Damn closer than I thought.
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#7934361 - 10/27/14 07:42 PM
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#7935797 - 10/28/14 03:43 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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meh, it's true.
Can't stand her.
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#7935824 - 10/28/14 03:59 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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I dunno why but Tory seems shady as fuck to me. hes a typical career politician. basically hes a well behaved ford
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#7935825 - 10/28/14 04:00 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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I dunno why but Tory seems shady as fuck to me. hes a typical career politician. basically hes a well behaved ford that ran a law firm for a few years, and ran rogers for another 10
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#7935827 - 10/28/14 04:01 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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meh, it's true. Can't stand her.
the racist look is NOT good on you
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#7935941 - 10/28/14 05:33 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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ok i didn't like her for mayor but that's just tasteless.
tasteless or not, she is the least qualified mayoral candidate that we've seen in a while and this woman would've NEVER even had a shot at this if it wasn't for her husband...and that pisses me off because someone more worthy could've taken her spot which wouldn't parrot around bullshit. She absolutely clueless, nice lady and all, but that's not mayoral material.
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#7935952 - 10/28/14 05:39 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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#7935955 - 10/28/14 05:40 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Wanted to add another racial slur, yes it's tasteless/disrespectful, only to Jack Layton, not to her and I am not trolling.
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#7936595 - 10/28/14 11:58 PM
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Layton had the yellow fever.
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#7936821 - 10/29/14 08:07 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Chow is ... Great at being a local councillor... Not so much major material. I commend her fight, but not sure why she went for it. It's not her fight, at all.
nailed it
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#7936871 - 10/29/14 08:46 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Here we go, Mr Monday morning quarterback incoming.
I don't have time to deep dive into a full out debate over this, I am also hurt that scumbag steve called me a racist and bounced
What does Chow bring to the table? I mean seriously, you want to be an advocate for the poor and talk about social welfare reform, go right ahead...that's not what a potential mayor of TORONTO should be basing their platforms on for starters.
Also Ford, crackhead or not, I honestly believe he actually has passion/care for the city and wants the best for it (Rob). He is definitely not the guy for the job for obvious reasons, but I'd rather have someone who will stir the pot than some little overshadowed troll sitting in a corner yammering about the poor and affordable housing and a slew of issues she will never be able to change for the better.
Regardless, glad Tory took it. I am on board with his campaign, even though he isn't my first choice...which brings me back to the original point...I wish Chow was never in the race so we had a better selection.
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#7936995 - 10/29/14 09:34 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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sorry, didn't mean to call you a full blown racist, but your views on the comic strip was racist and i stand by it.
Chow wasn't 1 of 3, if you voted in Toronto, you would've seen that the ballot had literally over 50 names for mayor.
at the end of the day, it's a job, let's pick the person most suited!
Tory - career politican (failed at many attempts) but he never gave up. had a great career in the private sector. well connected
D Ford - wanted to leave municpal politics, but figured might as well run folks, since folks, his brother now has cancer folks, and he can't run for mayor anymore folks. and now he's considering running folks at the provincial level folks!
Chow - 20+ years in politics in various levels. While her platform may not be the strongest, she's definitely more comptent than MANY names that are on the ballot.
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#7937193 - 10/29/14 10:29 AM
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sorry, didn't mean to call you a full blown racist, but your views on the comic strip was racist and i stand by it.
I am very interested to know what makes my views racist?
The fact that I agree with the picture that she is riding her late husbands's coattails? That's the only thing I was commenting on and that's the only thing I agreed with. Just because I agree with the general premise of the cartoon how am I racist? THe first time I glanced at the pic (mind you while in a meeting and on my iphone) I didn't pick up on the communist attire...is that what makes me racist? Because i agreed with a piece of the message of the pic, in particular one that was NOT racially inspired?
Chow wasn't 1 of 3, if you voted in Toronto, you would've seen that the ballot had literally over 50 names for mayor.
at the end of the day, it's a job, let's pick the person most suited!
Tory - career politican (failed at many attempts) but he never gave up. had a great career in the private sector. well connected
D Ford - wanted to leave municpal politics, but figured might as well run folks, since folks, his brother now has cancer folks, and he can't run for mayor anymore folks. and now he's considering running folks at the provincial level folks!
Chow - 20+ years in politics in various levels. While her platform may not be the strongest, she's definitely more comptent than MANY names that are on the ballot.
I am very well aware we don't only have 3 mayoral candidates lel, come on man who do you take me for. At the end of the day the only 2-3 that have a chance are the ones that get the media exposure. You are telling me if the spotlight switched from Chow to someone else, she wouldn't lose votes?
Albeit shes super nice person and if it wasnt for her the entertainment scene in toronto wouldve been shit long ago. themselves.
Exactly the reason someone like her has no business being mayor, stick to the arts and all the soft issues that have no quantifiable impact on the city as a whole. She is passionate and an advocate for issues that are not a priority....she has no business running a world class city, she is just fine over in hipsterville.
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#7937328 - 10/29/14 11:22 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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world class? lel
thats only 1 aspect mane..of many. Though Im curious how entertainment and arts has no quantifiable impact on a city...especially one that touts the "world class" bs.
Without those two things you have no city.
People dont visit toronto(or other cities) to see how nicely decked out their trading floors are.
Not being quantifiable in the sense that tourism is not even a blip on the radar when it comes to the different revenue streams this city has to handle/rationalize before we even get to arts. Simple 80/20 rule, focus your efforts on our largest income streams: income tax, HST, provincial/federal funding and our biggest expenses: Gridlock/TTC/Police/etc.... streaminline that shit before you talk to me about entertainment and arts (income stream = irrelevant) in the city. If Toronto's mayor was spending his time focusing on arts and entertainment then I'd rather have Ford back in doing coke and ketamine off Mammoliti's ass crack.
Arts and entertainment impact is also overblown because it's what media reports on. TIFF/Nuit Blanche/insert whatever here makes a much bigger media splash in terms of coverage than savings/cuts at city hall, one has 100x the financial impact than the other, yet people throw arounds arts and entertainment as if it's relevant.
Yes it's relevant, just not to the mayor. They should support and it help those who push for it, but that shouldn't be on their agenda, outsource that shit to the Chows of Toronto.
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#7937553 - 10/29/14 01:34 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Without entertainment and arts we would have no city. No gridlock, no ttc issues etc because no one would want to live here.
Who knew that arts and entertainment was at the forefront of Toronto’s dynamic sociodemographic issues?
There is however an overall net benefit to the city(and income stream) from these events and activities even if you dont partake and think its not relevant to the mayor.
Never disputed the *fact* that there is a benefit to the city, why is this relevant to this convo? I partake and contribute in multiple capacities (more so than majority of Toronto’s population) to Toronto’s art and entertainment scene, so again another irrelevant comment on your end. Celebration of Yorkville/Bloor in the summers and Nuit Blanche being the biggest ones. I also attend many other events throughout the year, so while I may come off as someone that doesn’t put Art/Entertainment high on my list of "Toronto's issues that need immediate addressing", I value and appreciate it.
Maybe next year I will hit up digital dreams or wahtever thing you go to and hide out in the partapotty during a rain storm, i suppose in your eyes that would make me an equal to you and your indepth experience with TOronto's art/ent scene lel
No one is saying those other aspects(of which there are many) are not or of less importance. Like it or not arts and entertainment are intrinsic to a world class city. To cast them a side and say they dont matter or are not important because(they MAY) not have the highest numbers on a spreadsheet is asinine.
You are putting words in my mouth, I said they are not important RELATIVE to the issues the city has. Of course Art/Ent are important, just not something that needs much focus in relation to everything else that needs addressing. That also doesn’t mean to ignore this area or to stop funding, it means continue doing what you are doing, let someone else be a cheerleader for it, as a mayor support it, but don’t deep dive trying to make it as a critical issue that needs addressing, spend that time on dealing with cop unions and how to cut red tape at city hall.
RE: your spreadsheet comment is another con for Arts/Entertainment, quantifying the net benefit to the city is impossible, and I am sure when doing a basic ROI it would fall flat on its face because everyone always talks about numbers overly inflated tourism numbers, dollars spent, etc. The value of AE is intrinsic to the people of the city and those who visit, someone can build a much better case for additional investment based on than just numbers, IMO.
And besides I only brought it up because she helped out in a big way along the way as a councillor. I dont think it was ever her main focus.
Main focus or not, her platform sure played it off as one of her bigger accomplishments. On its own it’s great what she has done! How relevant is that to me as a quality in city hall? not very relevant, but it does make me feel warm and fuzzy inside doe.
In fact Id say Doug had less "right" to be there and is coattaling more on Robs back than Olivia is on Jacks.
I agree with this, but Doug’s situation was completely different, driven from emotion, keeping a legacy going, spur of the moment, etc. Chow was coattailing from the get go.
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#7937651 - 10/29/14 02:05 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Who knew Risky was racist....
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#7937682 - 10/29/14 02:24 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Am I racist if I hate all races doe? Including white people/Russians? WOuldn't that just make a hatorade instead of a racist? I think that's a fair statement, I can live with that.
My hate against HKers has gone up since yesterday, any blacks want to balance it off?
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#7937694 - 10/29/14 02:29 PM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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#7937757 - 10/29/14 02:52 PM
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^ cans of worms. You ripped them all open at once.
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#7938389 - 10/29/14 08:37 PM
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as an artist, i just saw it as a really poor depiction of olivia. there's no way i would've guessed it was her if not for layton's jacket. really, i'm more offended as an artist that THAT guy gets his work published in the paper.
personally, i see the drawing as mildly racist. i probably would've drawn her with a nicer face and the suit dresses that she wears, and a bike instead of a skateboard (what's with the fucking skateboard?). i do like the riding of the coat tails tho. that was on point.
i'm curious c_snapper, you call Tory a career politician. by your definition, I think all three would be. and if you ask me, the only one who makes politics their career is Chow. Both Ford and Tory have had plenty of success in the private sector.
and the other thing with Chow that has me suspicious is that she's been here 40 years and her English seems more and more accented every year. part of me thinks she's playing the crowd. i wouldn't expect her to be completely free of her accent, but it's pretty bad that she kept saying "Duck Ford".
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#7939315 - 10/30/14 10:45 AM
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Naw, they just see you as
I tried watching it but...no sir, i don't like it.
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#7939354 - 10/30/14 11:01 AM
Re: Voting day...who will take it?
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Naw, they just see you as I tried watching it but...no sir, i don't like it.
Yep, super lame...especially when it comes on after Modern Family and you have high hopes.
But I am a known racist, so there is that.
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