#7900583 - 10/07/14 02:42 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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So are people actually out there going and checking their ACTUAL testosterone production, estrogen levels, during a cycle?  I just find it pretty odd to put this stuff in your body and then guess what you need/don't need and going by *feel* on how your body is reacting to it.
  A lot of people talk about it, how it should be taken, not sure how many actually have quantifiable/verifiable data and everyone is glossing over the side effects. 
  I have two buddies that went down this path, safe steroids and all, one just had surgery to remove sh!t out of his chest glands...but it's just part of the cycle doe!  Not to be a debbie downer on the subject, just trying to understand how people know quantities of what/when to take/what makes them so certain it's safe...or is everyone going on *best practices* and what worked on someone else's body who quantifiably monitored their status and assuming their body will react the same?   You're not being a debbie downer at all. Steroids can be extremely dangerous. There are paid forums dedicated to the research and discussion of all sorts of steroids/brands/websites etc. Many of these forums provide in depth analyses of brands and their dosage. They also test the chemical make-up to ensure the product is legit and the company selling it is legit. Also, many manufacturers print holograms and lot numbers on their product, which can be verified through their website.  Knowing the product is legit and correctly dosed is half the battle. Taking it is another science altogether. Your friend, that got gynocomastia and had to get his glands removed, has no one to blame but himself. That's a symptom of being lazy and uneducated. He overdosed and didn't take the proper Post Cycle Therapy.   
  He said he took test/tren/masteron stacked in one injection and that's when sh!t hit the fan...but again not quantifiable.  That's HE THINKS gave him issues...and this is my issue.  People spread info using themselves as the test subject on what went wrong, without hard data.  
 
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#7900590 - 10/07/14 02:48 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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IIRC, even Joey had some pretty serious side effects with his heart, so he had to stop.
  It's just not worth it, IMO.   
  Good memory. It wasn't a side effect after the fact but a side effect while I was on the cycle. 
  I went to the doctor for an annual check up for my insurance and he took my blood pressure & rested heart rate. it was something like 160bpm. He accused me of being on drugs or steroids so I told him the truth. I was pretty deep into a crazy cycle at the time. I tapered off the cycle and my doctors prescribed blood work. Everything was within normal range months after finishing the cycle. 
  I haven't done a cycle since. I think that was 2011?
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#7900630 - 10/07/14 03:07 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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#7900663 - 10/07/14 03:24 PM 
 
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#7900671 - 10/07/14 03:29 PM 
 
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  Why in the fuck would he be proud of this?
 
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#7900679 - 10/07/14 03:33 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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thats not even remotely the same thing
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#7900681 - 10/07/14 03:34 PM 
 
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Same reasons that you're apparently proud of looking like you're a chemo patient.
 
 
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#7900693 - 10/07/14 03:37 PM 
 
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I used to be like that. 
  Then I lifted heavy shit. 
  You bought purses and watches.
 
 
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#7900699 - 10/07/14 03:39 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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Emo, skinny jeans and purse mode is. 
  Get a skateboard and finish the look.
 
 
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#7900709 - 10/07/14 03:42 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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Your definition of bulk and mine are quite different. 
  I srsly doubt you can lift much more than an average woman. 
 
  95, that's just eeeewwwwwwwww
 
 
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#7900717 - 10/07/14 03:45 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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You don't have to be head cashier at a walmart to see those legs that you posted of yourself. I was shocked that you were still standing.  
  Don't go out during breezy days. 
  But hey, you're not fat!!!
 
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#7900721 - 10/07/14 03:47 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well.  Pretty easily I might add.  
  Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like?
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#7900727 - 10/07/14 03:50 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well.  Pretty easily I might add.  Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like?   
  I would guess (and it's only guess) -  vinegar?
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#7900728 - 10/07/14 03:51 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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I'm shocked that a short male uses "bulk" as validation   
  Well I may be shorter than you but twice as strong. 
 
  Like a man should be. 
  You strive more for WOman stuff. 
  Skinny Clothes Watches Purses Honda  Hair
 
   Not convinced that you're a man actually.
 
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#7900732 - 10/07/14 03:52 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well.  Pretty easily I might add.  Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like?  
  I've actually never heard this and I've been around the bodybuilding game since age 14.
 
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#7900740 - 10/07/14 03:56 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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  I'm sure not a single person on this site could pick them out better than you.  
  Maybe team503?
 
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#7900749 - 10/07/14 03:59 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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  It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary.  
 
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#7900758 - 10/07/14 04:01 PM 
 
Re: steroid use at your gym
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delving into homophobia, you're just the complete hick package   
  Except I'm not a homophobe. 
  I'll hate on people in the closet, tho.  
 
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