#7896104 - 10/04/14 08:28 AM
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#7896110 - 10/04/14 08:51 AM
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I am biased, but I was in a similar position close to a year ago.
I wanted a presentable beater/dd that's reliable/comfortable/peppy/etc. I looked at a ton of cars prior to that. I didn't consider the G35/37, don't like them at all (have driven multiple variants). Narrowed it down the 3rd gen TL, initially I was set on buying Jeff's is350...but timing didn't work in my favour. I looked at a few other ones but couldn't find something I liked and then my civic died so I was in a pinch.
Anyway the TL checked off all my boxes, I am extremely happy with the car, my only complain is the rear seats don't fold down and the turning radius sucks, so parking can be a pita in tight spots. Two very small draw backs, otherwise this is an amazing car, and an amazing value on the used market.
They also look pretty good
I had it rust proofed at regs in Scarborough right after I bought it.
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#7896111 - 10/04/14 08:53 AM
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I've always really liked those gens of TL's... Great pickup Vas.
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#7896138 - 10/04/14 10:17 AM
Re: Secondary cars and rust check
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Yea that's mine in the midst of a shady deal by the airport.
If we have a meet I will let you drive it. The turning radius isn't the worst but compared to a regular car you really have to make wide turns into spots or to solve that issue just start backing into spots - problem solved.
The fwd doesn't bother me as it's a daily. Sure there are times when I will give it a go out of a turn and it's sadface.gif but other than that I couldn't care less.
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#7896767 - 10/04/14 11:09 PM
Re: Secondary cars and rust check
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IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.
I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.
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#7896924 - 10/05/14 08:01 AM
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I also fall to understand driveline snobbery when most any rwd platform pushes so much out of the box that it makes no difference anyway. Plus, unless it sees track time, one would be hard pressed to reap the benefits of being able to get on the gas sooner on corner exit. I would also agree that fwd is a good choice for a dd. Efficient, easy traction and can drive well to boot. Want rotation? Trail the throttle or left foot brake. The latter arguably takes more finesse than throttle steering a rwd car on the street. I wouldn't rule out a nice fwd car. I haven't seen any mention of budget, but stuff like tsx, tl, accord seem like solid contenders. Or a Volvo (dunno howhu those are used though), or Saab or even a Subaru. M B8 a4 even? Get the avant! Zomg hot.
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#7896955 - 10/05/14 09:45 AM
Re: Secondary cars and rust check
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IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.
I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.
It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.
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#7896970 - 10/05/14 10:13 AM
Re: Secondary cars and rust check
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Drive the is350 as well, I really like them, but they aren't perfect either. Driving dynamics are kinda meh, I felt cramped inside but you won't have that issue.
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#7897207 - 10/05/14 02:48 PM
Re: Secondary cars and rust check
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IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.
I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids. It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.
that's not as bad as I thought. I avg about the same highway but im in the 7's (8's if I'm in a rush or getting on it) in the city. even still you getting that with a 6 I'd call pretty damn decent.
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#7897296 - 10/05/14 04:15 PM
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Meh, Id buy a later model Si Sedan or CSX.
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#7897418 - 10/05/14 06:08 PM
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I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.
Why no g love whatsoever??? auto TL type S with oem kit. do it nao. most of them are available in auto, I'm trying to retro those calipers onto the TSX.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, that's a hot car. I love the body colour vs wheel colour contrast, that's pretty much perfect imo.
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#7897583 - 10/05/14 07:52 PM
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What's the budget? I am really tempted to sell the jeep and get a 2011 Infiniti m37 s Like really really tempted
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#7897618 - 10/05/14 08:03 PM
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Love that gen. TL.
Acura has nothing but shit to offer now. The TLX looks like a fucking accord and they toned down the ugly beak but then do the stupid jeweled headlights.
Wes the TL drives really nice imo. Great pick up for a used car.
Lol Wut? And the 3-series doesn't look like the 335i or the 5 series or the 7 series? Hell the m3 is a 3 series on roids! Same thing with audi, a4,5 and 6, Jetta and passat. And the lights look good, better than then rice led strip that audi has that has made it's way to accords and caravans across Brampton. They for sure look better than that weird inner headlights thing benz is trying to pull off right now.
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#7897735 - 10/05/14 09:51 PM
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Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.
Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.
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#7897742 - 10/05/14 10:00 PM
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Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?
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#7897803 - 10/05/14 10:56 PM
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition
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#7897861 - 10/06/14 12:07 AM
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Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot. Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.
Lol dude nothing is the same as 10 years ago, look at Kia and Hyundai, are they the same? No, but Honda has still been dead nuts reliable. You need your eyes checked if you think they offer 0 for looks; your high if you think Chevy sedans look better, or Nissan, he'll even the 2014 3 series is questionable. acura has a few years that they fucked up the styling (the gen TL after riskys) but they corrected that, the ilx looks good, the RL looks sick, the mdx looks good, the Rdx looks decent (it's no Nissan juke) and the tlx looks wicked. Btw theres plenty of good looking cars these days, the ford fiesta, the kia optima, the Hyundai genesis , You just hatin lol
such ugly
I also saw a white ILX the other day, with the 5 spoke vossens and oem kit. car looked really good.
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#7897958 - 10/06/14 07:49 AM
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Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.
put the crack pipe down lol
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#7898004 - 10/06/14 08:49 AM
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.
That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.
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#7898012 - 10/06/14 08:53 AM
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I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD
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#7898023 - 10/06/14 08:57 AM
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Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic. put the crack pipe down lol
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#7898274 - 10/06/14 10:41 AM
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy. That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.
It's not terrible, I think I am just getting old. I want to be isolated from all noise for those 2.5 hours. If you want to give it a try let me know, would be in your price range, I'd ask 19k I think
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#7901747 - 10/08/14 08:31 AM
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.
How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?
Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates
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#7901978 - 10/08/14 10:08 AM
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Dude, please drive an IS350, it's a completely different car. I know most people here hate it, but I think it fits right into what you want.
I agree TL is a large car.
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#7902052 - 10/08/14 10:34 AM
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Is350, change the sway bars for the f sport ones (this is a must). Done. I would lower it but you don't have to do that.
You also need to put the red precut tail light vinyl over the Orange reflectors...
Make sure you get one that has a decent number of options.
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#7902690 - 10/08/14 02:32 PM
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe. How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL? Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates
drive mine. you're right, its a heavy(er) car, and i think it's just slightly smaller than your car, but it really doesn't feel like it. it doesn't roll, handles nice and responsive, and the 6spd is super short. i can city drive in 6th gear, often times skipping 5th. i think alot of the weight is from the stupid big gas tank, doesn't need to be that big imo.
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#7903231 - 10/08/14 08:26 PM
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#7903606 - 10/09/14 07:39 AM
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^ Wes drive that one just to see (looks like a decent deal, comes with snows too). I don't know how different the typs S is, but it should be fun if my regular trim TL is a fun drive. I am assuming you are shying away from the TL because it's now 2 gens old?
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#7903818 - 10/09/14 09:09 AM
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The TL and new TSX are almost the same size, just a FYI:
Length TL: 189.3" TSX: 185.6" Width TL: 72.2" TSX: 72.4"
Weight TL: 3480 lbs TSX: 3400lbs
Yes it's 2 gens old, but they are cheaper and like you said the car will spend a lot of time in misc parking lots and getting beat up so it makes more sense. They also don't age as bad as infinitis that you are looking. Again, not trying to convince you to buy one, just saying value wise I think they are your best bet out of the stuff you've listed.
But if you want to spend at the max of your budget get the IS350.
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#7903823 - 10/09/14 09:11 AM
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).
30hp makes that big of a diff?
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#7903828 - 10/09/14 09:14 AM
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TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?
TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size.
This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes.
IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.
Edited by hyper-s2k (10/09/14 09:16 AM) Edit Reason: Treed by RB on TL vs. TSX size - lol
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#7903915 - 10/09/14 09:40 AM
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related). 30hp makes that big of a diff?
even in this heavy of a car, fuck yeah. esp the 6spd meng. drove them back to back couple years ago and it's noticeable.
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#7903979 - 10/09/14 10:10 AM
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TSX is ok in size but TL is too big? TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size. This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes. IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.
Is350 is the fastest thing on his list by a long shot with the exception of the is-f you suggested.
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#7904060 - 10/09/14 10:53 AM
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http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8
at 127km....it is just a baby.
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#7904344 - 10/09/14 12:54 PM
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#7904714 - 10/09/14 02:29 PM
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O http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8 Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!
ummm wth? it's been around that long and it's that cheap already? horrycow! that'd be a nice pickup for the money lol...
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#7904719 - 10/09/14 02:30 PM
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O http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8 Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!
There is something fishy about that price for sure...
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#7904833 - 10/09/14 02:48 PM
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.
My EP could be my winter beater and this could be my summer ride.
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#7904862 - 10/09/14 02:55 PM
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.
of course they are "bullet proof"...but only to a certain point. Even those cars need work. and GOOD FUCKING NIGHT trying to work on them. they were not designed for that what so ever.
Im curious if that continues with models of today...
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#7905762 - 10/09/14 10:11 PM
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LOL no IS-F.
I really like that model of TL, I'll go drive one. Not sure I need a type-s. This one would be perfect.
http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/TL/Bra...PO&orup=7_25_16
Maybe I'll make the drive out Tuesday after the long weekend. I appreciate all the input. I didn't realize the 08 TL was so close to the 09 TSX in size. Comfort for this car matters more to me than handling.
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#7906139 - 10/10/14 08:52 AM
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A2B-Lexus
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.
of course they are "bullet proof"...but only to a certain point. Even those cars need work. and GOOD FUCKING NIGHT trying to work on them. they were not designed for that what so ever. Im curious if that continues with models of today...
No problem for me. I am a wallet mechanic. Changing the light bulbs would be my extent of "working" on the car. LOL
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#7917880 - 10/17/14 08:16 AM
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update?
btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!
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#7917898 - 10/17/14 08:27 AM
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update?
btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!
it may have been one of ours lol, was driving a few of them 2wks ago for mileage...it's a nice car man. i think it went on sale about a week ago? i've seen 3-4 on the road already. looks nice in black, but there's this crazy gray colour (we have one here at the office), that's almost a matte paint but with a shine/sheen in it...very different.
the 8 and 9 spd trans's are so smooth it's nuts, the 4cyl feels like a small V6, the ride is nice too...better than RLX even lol. as for look, eih...typical 4dr lines, weird acura front but i love the rear end/lights.
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#7917902 - 10/17/14 08:30 AM
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I saw a black one last night at leslie/16
I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good
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#7918107 - 10/17/14 10:05 AM
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crack crack crack crack, crack cocaiiiine
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#7918401 - 10/17/14 12:05 PM
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the 4cyl feels like a small V6 Doesn't that just means it feels like a 4 cylinder? XD
NO! cause that'd mean it's a 5cyl then, LIKE DUH!
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#7918744 - 10/17/14 02:23 PM
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haha 5cyl, power of a 4, fuel efficency of a V6
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#7918787 - 10/17/14 02:39 PM
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#7918829 - 10/17/14 02:57 PM
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I saw a black one last night at leslie/16
I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good
they look good. i got invited to some kind of TLX release party at acura north toronto with food and give aways and test drives. i'm going to go on my break and hopefully get to test drive one.
they have been for sale for the last little bit no? north toronto has a beautiful white one with nav and oem kit...hngggg. the wheels are blasted mugly tho. they are also really small inside.
Edited by titty sprinkles (10/17/14 02:59 PM)
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#7942905 - 11/01/14 04:26 PM
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From way back...
Drove lots of stuff. - a few <=08 TL's - a few >=09 TL's - a few TSX's - Many is350's - Many G37(x)'s - a few e class' (dad was buying an on paper fits my criteria) - a few 5 series' - a few c class' - a few A4's
Tried to buy a few cars in there, including one really nice is350, but we were always too far apart. Finally, bought a 2009 G37x. Black on black, premium package, navigation package, and technology package, winter and summer wheels.
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#7942989 - 11/01/14 06:22 PM
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I think it will be a good solid daily driver
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#7942992 - 11/01/14 06:24 PM
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Bang for the buck they are the best cars out there, for me it's living with the fit and finish of the car, can't do it. Is350 would've been a much better buy.
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#7943311 - 11/02/14 06:59 AM
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#7943445 - 11/02/14 11:26 AM
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#7943449 - 11/02/14 11:37 AM
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The IS250/350 drives like shit for its class, same shit as the c-class of that gen. NOT GOOD. G37 and TL of the same gen. are great handling cars. Good choice IMO, however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol
You have no idea what you are talking about, for starters lumping in the IS250 and IS350 as if it's the same car and then telling me the IS350 is a worse car in relation to a G37, lol ok man. If you are talking strictly driving the G37 does feel a bit sportier, I agree the IS350 can feel a but underwhelming in relation, but we are splitting hairs here, both are fat automatic pigs. I like the more refined IS350 feel to be honest.
The IS350 is better than a G37 in every imaginable way except price...which you get back when you sell as they have better resale anyway. Damn Lexus hater, holy crap.
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#7943452 - 11/02/14 11:42 AM
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I wanted an IS but inventory is scarce and I paid about $5000 less for this than what people were wanting for IS's. I tried. I really like the G too, not sure if you guys have driven them.
Jeff, I hope so too. Need to also remember I daily an M3, this is my beater.
So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.
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#7943463 - 11/02/14 11:59 AM
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Whats wrong with daily driving an M3? I did it for 6 years (except for winter of course)
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#7943592 - 11/02/14 02:04 PM
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maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3? save it from winter use? bc you sure aint saving much gas on the g37x over the m3!!!
PS, spd-dmn, 13L/100 is pretty damn good in my books XD XD XD XD XD I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha
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#7943625 - 11/02/14 02:35 PM
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#7943739 - 11/02/14 03:36 PM
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I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha
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#7943899 - 11/02/14 06:01 PM
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I'm still waiting to drive that M3.
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#7944019 - 11/02/14 08:25 PM
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maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3? save it from winter use?
I always laugh at this logic. Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car. (omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet ) wow maths, making sense. If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general
How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?
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#7944262 - 11/03/14 07:30 AM
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Check the fuel consumption! This was after a short city jaunt XD /probablydriveslikeeuphoric
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#7944292 - 11/03/14 08:05 AM
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maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3? save it from winter use?
I always laugh at this logic. Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car. (omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet ) wow maths, making sense. If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?
TL is like $250, M3 is basically scrap metal.
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#7944446 - 11/03/14 09:47 AM
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So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.
No pics available as of yet. To be honest I can see the deal falling through. I'll post about that once I know for sure.
Disclaimer - results and opinions may not be typical, these are based off the samples I had access to within my budget.
<=08 TL's - nice car, would have to do timing belts on all that I had seen, drove type-s and non, liked them both but the drive was a little harsh for what I wanted. Kept in back of my mind it's a FWD.
>=09 TL's - really nice car, but, tooooo big. Turn around and look at back seat passengers it was like I was in a town car. Also, hard to get with all the packages I wanted in my price.
TSX's - I liked this, but, it's very entry level luxury car, which is fine. Resale is quite high on these.
is350's - most were BEATTTTTTT. The paint must be as thin as a piece of paper. interiors seemed to hold up alright though. I liked the drive however I'd drive two back to back and seats would feel different. Road noise too but that was the tires. I tried to buy one of these but we were too far apart.
G37(x)'s - had that substantial luxurious feel. Lots of amenities. Only offering here (I believe) with intelligent cruise. Easy to find with decent features. Paint isn't awesome on these either but compared to the IS's it was awesome. AWD is nice. The one I bought comes with winter and summers.
e class' - nice to drive but I'm just not old enough for this. I drove an 08 E300 to buy the G37x actually.
5 series' - too big, and honestly compared to the M3 the materials in other BMW's in my price range were not the premium packages so I didn't want a car that's so similar but offering an inferior experience.
c class' - felt small, cramped, econo box ish, expensive, vinyl? Really?
<09 A4's - See c class but inexpensive.
One thing I did notice is that as cars were aging people were skimping out on matching tires, rotors with pads (>2 sets of pads / rotor with huge lips), cheap noisy tires, etc.
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#7944762 - 11/03/14 11:53 AM
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87zcsi, u found 5 series to be inferior in experience to m3 even in the interior? which gen 5 did u test? The 5s seem quite nice in the interior imo. the leather is better, and the trim/switch gear in general are nicer.
......or maybe it's bc i am comparing m5 to m3. m5 is nicer inside fo sho (e60 m5 vs e90 m3)
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