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#7843826 - 09/02/14 10:16 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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Well, given there's no mirror, no. ;\)

Sorry for being pedantic, but no, shutter slap for me has been a non-issue. I rarely shoot longer lenses though where it seems to be most prevalent. I shot some with my 70-200 yesterday but there was enough light to keep speeds up around 1/500, and even if I were to shoot as speeds where I'd need a tripod, the lens has it's own foot which should act against the slap. Vibration seems to be worst with longer lenses that don't have their own tripod foot.

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#7844320 - 09/02/14 02:37 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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Yeah yeah lol.

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#7844403 - 09/02/14 03:25 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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 Originally Posted By: tylerdurden
 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
This thread makes me want to hug my D700 and its lovely AF.


And what about the zebras in your D700's OVF? ;\)
i wouldn't want to speak for scootergeek, but my d700's AF is accurate enough that I don't manually focus
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#7844412 - 09/02/14 03:32 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: chef]
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Meh. The zebras are electronic lines overlaid on the overexposed areas of the image displayed on the optical viewfinder.. Let's you know what parts of the image will be clipped whites. I'm on the fence about them. I mean, the point of having the optical viewfinder is to accurately display exposure based upon the settings you've selected before you push the shutter button. Honestly it feels a little gimmicky because with them turned off you should be able to see the overexposed areas anyway.
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#7844656 - 09/02/14 06:14 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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I find it a bit hard to distinguish highlight with detail vs highlight without detail on the EVF, but to each their own.
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#7844668 - 09/02/14 06:24 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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What setting do you have the zebras set at? I mean, I guess it's not completely gimmicky, but if I've got a scene with lots of dynamic range, I'm bracketing anyway.
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#7844676 - 09/02/14 06:32 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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100+ shows actual clipping. I agree that it's not a replacement for bracketing for many situations though, just maximizes dynamic range if you can't or don't need to.
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#7844803 - 09/02/14 08:14 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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Or simply go against internet wisdom and shoot 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop to the left all the time.
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#7844924 - 09/02/14 09:38 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: scootergeek]
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Not with a mark 2!!! Shadow recovery bloooooooowwwsss
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#7845628 - 09/03/14 11:04 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: scootergeek]
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 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
Or simply go against internet wisdom and shoot 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop to the left all the time.


You still need to check the display to confirm exposure after. With an EVF, you confirm it before exposure. It's not that much of a time saver but it is more convenient than pulling the camera away from your face.

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#7845629 - 09/03/14 11:04 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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 Originally Posted By: salty
Not with a mark 2!!! Shadow recovery bloooooooowwwsss


Yes. Ugly noise in there often times.

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#7845915 - 09/03/14 01:19 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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 Originally Posted By: salty
Lol yeah, that's another thing.. I'm shooting wide open (f4 with that lens). I THINK I can hook it up to a canon body, set aperture (I'd go f9 for landscape) and turn off the body and it should stay at F9 on the sony.

Or I'll just buy the metabones lol.



That sounds like a giant pain in the ass honestly. Get the damn adapter, good manual focus lenses with aperture rings, or native lenses.
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#7846119 - 09/03/14 03:12 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: skierd]
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It wouldn't be a pain in the ass if it actually worked. It would be a set it and forget it thing. Unfortunately i tried it today and as soon as you power off the camera/lens, it defaults to wide open.

I'll order a metabones soon.

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#7846157 - 09/03/14 03:35 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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Ohh that's right. I'm thinking the wrong blinkies/lines. I don't trust my lcd's. I know the d300s and d700 were too bright. The d800 is a little better but I'm still learning it. The d800 is different enough that I have to go by the histogram, even if the image onscreen looks completely wrong. That may have been from me dialing down the lcd brightness though, based off past experience with other bodies. I heard a guy that's one of the Nikon ambassadors say in a (2 year old) podcast that the histograms shown are for the jpg files that are shown on the lcd. It gets you close I guess but still shows it's different than what I'll be playing with when I get back home. Anyways, live view histogram would be useful, but I'll live without it for the other features I get in a full size body without the EVF.
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#7846785 - 09/04/14 12:05 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: chef]
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Had a pretty good day out at Moraine Lake and Lake Louise today, did my first bracketed shots, we'll see how they go in post (I almost never did this with the 5D2). Really wish there was a drive option for five shots at one stop increments, but doing two separate brackets of three at one stop works more or less as well and is pretty quick. Side note, loving the Joby strap. Still wish a hand strap would work, but this thing is a well thought out piece of kit.
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#7847040 - 09/04/14 09:22 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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What I don't like is you have to hold the shutter button during the bracket. The canon you could set the 2 or 10 second timer and the camera would then bracket eliminating the possibility of camera shake caused by your hand.

Are you using an IR remote?

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#7847072 - 09/04/14 09:48 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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Nope, it's on a tripod obviously and it doesn't take too hard a poke to release the shutter so I wasn't worried about it. We'll see in post I guess lol whoops.

The remote app works well enough that I probably wouldn't use any other remote release, have you tried it?

I agree that there are a number of small firmware tweaks that could really improve functionality, we'll see if they ever do an update.

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#7847270 - 09/04/14 11:46 AM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: tylerdurden]
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I haven't tried any apps yet.
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#7847504 - 09/04/14 01:24 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: Sir Salty A F]
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Other than having the canon lens already, any reason you're not looking at any of the e mount glass instead of buying an adapter? Isn't there a zeiss/sony equivalent to that 24-70 f4?
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#7847591 - 09/04/14 01:58 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: skierd]
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Yep. And it kinda sucks with distortion.

Plus buying an adapter for my canon lenses will be cheaper than buying the 24-70 AND I get 35 extra mm's!!

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#7848476 - 09/04/14 10:50 PM Re: What's a 5D2 go for these days? [Re: skierd]
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 Originally Posted By: skierd
Other than having the canon lens already, any reason you're not looking at any of the e mount glass instead of buying an adapter? Isn't there a zeiss/sony equivalent to that 24-70 f4?


Most of the E mount stuff is pretty underwhelming, zooms especially don't measure up to the stuff you can get for other systems for the price Sony's asking. The 35 and 55 are very good, but are pretty pricey for what they are. I'm giving up a little AF speed using the adapter, but I manually focus everything now so I don't care.

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