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#7658413 - 04/21/14 05:14 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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Though I still choose cx bike XD Put some fenders on it and you have an all weather warrior!


Put some fenders on the mountain bike and you have an all weather warrior!

Only elitist pricks and singlespeed riders are drawn to CX bikes XDXDXDXDXDXD


more harder more better.
call me crazy, but i much prefer a road bike position to a mountain one.
And I value having the drops available in a big big way. a mtb wont deliver in that regard (unless you're john tomac)



^ in which case if i had to have a mtb, i'd build up something retro and set it up just like that \:D


You wouldn't build up a retro bike like that after seeing what those parts cost. A beat up to shit 1st & 2nd gen answer manitou fork like that probably goes for $500. I've seen mint condition ones go for like $900.


I have one in my basement \:\)


bullshit, i demand pics. what other old shit you got?

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#7658426 - 04/21/14 05:25 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
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Though I still choose cx bike XD Put some fenders on it and you have an all weather warrior!


Put some fenders on the mountain bike and you have an all weather warrior!

Only elitist pricks and singlespeed riders are drawn to CX bikes XDXDXDXDXDXD


more harder more better.
call me crazy, but i much prefer a road bike position to a mountain one.
And I value having the drops available in a big big way. a mtb wont deliver in that regard (unless you're john tomac)



^ in which case if i had to have a mtb, i'd build up something retro and set it up just like that \:D


You wouldn't build up a retro bike like that after seeing what those parts cost. A beat up to shit 1st & 2nd gen answer manitou fork like that probably goes for $500. I've seen mint condition ones go for like $900.


I have one in my basement \:\)


bullshit, i demand pics. what other old shit you got?


ok fiiiine i will upload pics later.
I also had a proflex 656 (girvin linkage fork and all!) with refreshed elastomers. Since sold.

I was a big bike nerd in the hey day of mountain biking early/mid 90s. Collected a lot of mountain bike action and cut pictures out of them to put in my binders XD I still have a few of those mags. The Tinker juarez, Shawn paler, John tomac, Cadel evans, Missy Giove days. Ok a lot of timeline overlap there but whatever XD
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#7658479 - 04/21/14 05:58 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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Robby you should bet $100 on this. 4age is full of shit.
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#7658485 - 04/21/14 06:05 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Hatorade]
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I have a feeling he is!

Any kooka cranks or magura hydraulic rim brakes 4age?

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#7658538 - 04/21/14 06:47 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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I have a feeling he is!

Any kooka cranks or magura hydraulic rim brakes 4age?


hah.
Hatorade probably just wants to see you out $100 :p

I couldnt dig up pics of the Manitou (I had the Manitou 2). But I have evidence nonetheless. I sold my old stuff. See below:





That trek 6000 was a neon yellow from like 1991. My Manitou was even threaded--which was perfect, as this bike had a threaded headset. I also had a neon yellow w/ orange & green splatter paint job steel Marin. I love the early 90s stuff.

I almost bought an AMP B2 for $150 too! It was bad timing though--I was in Montreal on a weekend roadtrip and the guy was back in Tdot. He sold it the next day \:\(

FWIW I picked up the Manitou 2 for 45 bucks shipped off pink bike :P bhahaha.
No kooka! I wish.
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#7658568 - 04/21/14 07:04 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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robbbby just met his match.
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#7658658 - 04/21/14 07:55 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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You lied, you don't actually own any of that stuff now, you sold it all!
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#7658742 - 04/21/14 09:01 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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^LOL

back peddle!!!
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#7658994 - 04/22/14 05:41 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Hatorade]
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^LOL

back peddle!!!


how am I beck pedaling? he said he had it in his basement.

No matter, if he did have one I was going to race him, winner gets to keep the answer fork \:\)

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#7660386 - 04/22/14 06:54 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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I just picked this up \:\) I hope there are a lot of sluts in the forest!

2013 Scott Scale 960

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#7660436 - 04/22/14 07:42 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: LNXGUY]
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how much did ya pay for that bike Billy?
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#7660458 - 04/22/14 07:59 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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Under $1000 (Before tax)
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#7660503 - 04/22/14 08:35 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: LNXGUY]
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Scott, much luxury, such fast, so wheelie
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#7660509 - 04/22/14 08:39 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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I can't picture Bill on that mountain bike




Nice bike doe!

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#7660511 - 04/22/14 08:40 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Risky Business]
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I should have bought a YZ450F like I really wanted instead

Should be fun though, lots and lots of trails around here, will help getting my ass back into shape.
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#7660516 - 04/22/14 08:42 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: LNXGUY]
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siiiiiiiick bike.
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#7660940 - 04/23/14 09:22 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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folks in OT are telling me to get a scotts bike?

man there's so many brand out there and I dont even know what to get anymore.
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#7660952 - 04/23/14 09:24 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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You are going to be cycling on a fawking sidewalk in Mississauga 3 times a month, IT DOESN'T MATTER. A CCM Excel will suit you just as well as some high end CF bike for 10k.
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#7660960 - 04/23/14 09:28 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Risky Business]
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Na, it's a bike it will get used daily. Im actually using my old POS Raleigh bike to bike to work daily for the last 3 weeks. So I figure why not get a decent bike that I'll use more than just biking to work?
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#7660966 - 04/23/14 09:30 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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lol you are full of sh!t that you biked to work the last 3 weeks.
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#7661022 - 04/23/14 09:48 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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Na, it's a bike it will get used daily. Im actually using my old POS Raleigh bike to bike to work daily for the last 3 weeks. So I figure why not get a decent bike that I'll use more than just biking to work?


Dude, forget the manufacturer.
Get what you like/looks good/feels right/comfortable.
For 1k, the difference between bikes is not going to be ground breaking. You can rest assured that regardless of what you choose, you will get a quality rig that's going to do all the things you want it to do.

So pick the one with the best paint job XD
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#7661026 - 04/23/14 09:48 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Risky Business]
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This may be obvious but in the event you do not know, bikes are largely made up of *two* major parts. The frame and the group of components on it (incl wheelset etc). You can see some frames with cheap components or 3x the money with better components. The components will be one of two brands basically. Buying a scott gets you a nice frame, but it can be still a crappy bike as a package.
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#7661051 - 04/23/14 09:59 AM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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folks in OT are telling me to get a scotts bike?

man there's so many brand out there and I dont even know what to get anymore.


The thing I found with my 960 is that for the components you get, you aren't going to find a better deal. It's a $1500 bike for $1000.. If you stack it up against a regularly priced $1000 bike, it will always come out on top. I've figured out bikes depreciate as bad as cars do. I was looking at a Kona as well, and it's components are 2 levels below the 960 for the same price.. Also, like it was mentioned, if it's not comfortable, it doesn't matter what bike you're on..
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#7661745 - 04/23/14 03:30 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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folks in OT are telling me to get a scotts bike?

man there's so many brand out there and I dont even know what to get anymore.


Seriously? Who cares what the people in OT are saying, chances are all the people making recommendations are weekend warriors anyways and truly have no fucking clue.
You do realize the larger audience you start polling the more opinions you are going to get, right?
There is no wrong answer at that price point like 4age has already stated. Find a hardtail in your price range you like and buy it. I already gave you my opinion and said to go with norco since they generally have slightly better components for the price compared to the big brands like specialized/trek/giant. The more people you keep asking for advice the more differing suggestions you are going to keep receiving.

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#7661854 - 04/23/14 04:45 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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^on that note, get a singlespeed. moar harder moar better \:D
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#7661877 - 04/23/14 05:02 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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^on that note, get a singlespeed. moar harder moar better \:D


Or get a geared bike and leave it in a tougher gear?

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#7661918 - 04/23/14 05:37 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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^on that note, get a singlespeed. moar harder moar better \:D


Or get a geared bike and leave it in a tougher gear?


No. Chainsuck, derailer snag, thinner chains, not perfect chainline, chain slap etc etc. XD

Ignore me. I like my lame stuff.



Yeah boiiiiiii!


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#7661920 - 04/23/14 05:40 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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Nick has a niner HT you can buy off him.
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#7661923 - 04/23/14 05:44 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: fatredcircIe]
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Nick has a niner HT you can buy off him.

nahhhhhhh been repaired. i'd rather buy brand new XD
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#7662050 - 04/23/14 07:22 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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^on that note, get a singlespeed. moar harder moar better \:D


Or get a geared bike and leave it in a tougher gear?


No. Chainsuck,


Learn how to tune a bike and this will never happen.

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derailer snag,


In cross country? so rare. Learn some bike handling skills to maneuver over obstacles.

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thinner chains,


lol why is this something anybody should care about??


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not perfect chainline,


again, why is this something anybody should be concerned about???????????????


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chain slap etc etc. XD


only one I will give you!


They are so useless if you ride varied terrain. There is a reason at races that SS has it's own category, because they are fucking slower than everybody else. Geared = faster AND harder, SS = harder, hike a bike, knees destroyed by 40!

I own a SS and it's fun to ride but it's more of a toy for somebody who already has proper bikes, IMO of course

I must also throw in some XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD so you know i'm not taking this seriously and just busting your tiny balls. XD

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#7662110 - 04/23/14 08:15 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: robbbby]
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They are so useless if you ride varied terrain. There is a reason at races that SS has it's own category, because they are fucking slower than everybody else. Geared = faster AND harder, SS = harder, hike a bike, knees destroyed by 40!

I own a SS and it's fun to ride but it's more of a toy for somebody who already has proper bikes, IMO of course

I must also throw in some XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD so you know i'm not taking this seriously and just busting your tiny balls. XD


I agree 100% Same page, dude.

However, if >I< were to get a mtb, it's just for shits and giggles. And for me, my chosen path would be SS. Not because more harder more better. Just because more basic more fun. I don't know wtf I'm doing on a mtb anyways.

Now in a road context, I also agree. However, a fixed drivetrain is much more efficient at early season training in getting those legs back. Nothing else will spike power outputs in the same manner--you are forced to stand and mash up hills, and then you are forced yet again to spin like a crazed person going down hills. Working on both cadence and power output simultanously, and ensuring that any distance you cover was with 100% pedalling has it's advantages. Not arguable. Just awesome. Truly is more harder more better.

That being said, I have a race bike. For racing. It has gears, it goes fast. And when you ride something like that after 3 months of riding a fixed POS, you feel like you're doping. So for road, the relevance is there. On mountain--I agree. Not really relevant. But for perhaps 90% of the people out there who swing their leg over a mountain bike, they are only doing it for the fun or for the fitness. In my perspective, an SS rig is absolutely fun. Just like the days of being a kid and riding a bmx. You don't worry about anything but the ride itself.
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#7663222 - 04/24/14 12:51 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: Risky Business]
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lol you are full of sh!t that you biked to work the last 3 weeks.




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#7663242 - 04/24/14 12:59 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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Today I went to Jamis and checked out the bike robbby had posted. It's not a bad bike. However, I went to gears earlier this week I saw giant with similar specs with 27.5 wheels for 579. I'll check out one more local bike shop this weekend.
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#7663296 - 04/24/14 01:15 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: c2k]
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Today I went to Jamis and checked out the bike robbby had posted. It's not a bad bike. However, I went to gears earlier this week I saw giant with similar specs with 27.5 wheels for 579. I'll check out one more local bike shop this weekend.


Check sportinglife too. Good prices.
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#7663550 - 04/24/14 03:19 PM Re: need a bicycle.... [Re: 4age]
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Now in a road context, I also agree. However, a fixed drivetrain is much more efficient at early season training in getting those legs back. Nothing else will spike power outputs in the same manner--you are forced to stand and mash up hills, and then you are forced yet again to spin like a crazed person going down hills. Working on both cadence and power output simultanously, and ensuring that any distance you cover was with 100% pedalling has it's advantages. Not arguable. Just awesome. Truly is more harder more better.


For most people who don't ride for the 5+ months of cold weather, i'm not sure I totally agree with the SS to "get those legs back". Though I don't follow the whole base mileage concept religiously, I do agree with it somewhat and don't think hopping on a single speed after not having ridden for 5+ months and mashing up hills is a great idea or pedaling at such a low cadence/high power output.

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